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Following Christ ≠ Female Worship

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If we are following the scriptures out of the Bible, men are spiritually equal to that of women - and there is no "worship" of course to that of either gender, nor giving women the unique roles to that of men.

Although in Modern "Christianity" and the woke progressiveness they are seen to be put on a pedestal and have authority to that of men and even more. Even now in some churches there are female pastors which is just ridiculous.



Some verses on the matter:

1 Timothy 2:12:
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet"

1 Corinthians 14:34-35:
"The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church."

Ephesians 5:22:
"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord."

Titus 2:5:
"submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled."


Modern day "Christians" will see these verses and dismiss them as they don't "appeal to the modern agenda" - and pastors/priests have fallen for the devils trap and put women on a pedestal, showing no punishment for their wrongdoings.



Biblical Position

My position is not that men are more valuable than women. Scripture teaches that men and women are equally created in the image of God and equally in need of salvation through Christ (Galatians 3:28).

However, equality of worth does not mean sameness of roles. God assigns different responsibilities to different people. Just as parents and children have different roles, men and women are also given different responsibilities. For men this is providing and protecting, whilst for women this is nurturing and caring.

When these women are treated of more value it is a rejection of the biblical order established by God. And you never see it the other way around either... it's a result of modern day feminism creeping into churches and corrupting the doctrine.

At the same time, Christians are commanded to judge actions according to God's standards while remembering that ultimate judgment belongs to God. But having said that of course we can still identify sin, error, and wrongdoings.



Judgement:

The Lord says that we can judge peoples actions, but let them not be judged as a whole. Meaning not basing their action they did onto their entire self.

For example:
If a women commits adultery more often than men - then we take precautions around certain areas and logically make generalisations. And we can of course judge them off their actions but not for them as a person if that makes sense.

“Judging” actions is part of moral discernment. But reducing someone to their worst behaviour, crosses into a kind of judgment that’s reserved for God on the Day of Judgement.



TLDR;
Men and women are equal in value before God, but equality does not mean identical roles or responsibilities. Scripture assigns different roles to men and women in the family and church.

Christians should judge actions according to God's standards. Judging behaviour is different from condemning a person's entire character or eternal destiny.

Modern cultural influences, such as feminism, are affecting most churches interpretation of scripture and leading believers astray with a false doctrine.

@Lo3e @thevineyardworker @The_word_made_flesh
 
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I hate women.
 
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If we are following the scriptures out of the Bible, men are spiritually equal to that of women - and there is no "worship" of course to that of either gender, nor giving women the unique roles to that of men.

Although in Modern "Christianity" and the woke progressiveness they are seen to be put on a pedestal and have authority to that of men and even more. Even now in some churches there are female pastors which is just ridiculous.



Some verses on the matter:

1 Timothy 2:12:
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet"

1 Corinthians 14:34-35:
"The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church."

Ephesians 5:22:
"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord."

Titus 2:5:
"submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled."


Modern day "Christians" will see these verses and dismiss them as they don't "appeal to the modern agenda" - and pastors/priests have fallen for the devils trap and put women on a pedestal, showing no punishment for their wrongdoings.



Biblical Position

My position is not that men are more valuable than women. Scripture teaches that men and women are equally created in the image of God and equally in need of salvation through Christ (Galatians 3:28).

However, equality of worth does not mean sameness of roles. God assigns different responsibilities to different people. Just as parents and children have different roles, men and women are also given different responsibilities. For men this is providing and protecting, whilst for women this is nurturing and caring.

When these women are treated of more value it is a rejection of the biblical order established by God. And you never see it the other way around either... it's a result of modern day feminism creeping into churches and corrupting the doctrine.

At the same time, Christians are commanded to judge actions according to God's standards while remembering that ultimate judgment belongs to God. But having said that of course we can still identify sin, error, and wrongdoings.



Judgement:

The Lord says that we can judge peoples actions, but let them not be judged as a whole. Meaning not basing their action they did onto their entire self.

For example:
If a women commits adultery more often than men - then we take precautions around certain areas and logically make generalisations. And we can of course judge them off their actions but not for them as a person if that makes sense.

“Judging” actions is part of moral discernment. But reducing someone to their worst behaviour, crosses into a kind of judgment that’s reserved for God on the Day of Judgement.



TLDR;
Men and women are equal in value before God, but equality does not mean identical roles or responsibilities. Scripture assigns different roles to men and women in the family and church.

Christians should judge actions according to God's standards. Judging behaviour is different from condemning a person's entire character or eternal destiny.

Modern cultural influences, such as feminism, are affecting most churches interpretation of scripture and leading believers astray with a false doctrine.

@Lo3e @thevineyardworker @The_word_made_flesh
Catholics worship women tho
 
Catholics worship women tho
Catholics are not christians by definition.

To be a christian means to follow the christian doctrine aka the Bible. They used revised versions which on average have been changed in 8 out of 9 verses - adding up to over 5,000 changes from the original translation. Bibles in English are meant to be translations, not changes. When you change the bible, it is no longer God's word.

So the doctrine catholics follow with their bible which not to mention also includes the Tobit, Judith, Maccabees, etc which are completely irrelevant.

The point i'm trying to get at is when the catholics follow their bible, they aren't following God and rather adhering to man's religious beliefs and denomination, so by definition they aren't christian.
 
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Catholics are not christians by definition.

To be a christian means to follow the christian doctrine aka the Bible. They used revised versions which on average have been changed in 8 out of 9 verses - adding up to over 5,000 changes from the original translation. Bibles in English are meant to be translations, not changes. When you change the bible, it is no longer God's word.

So the doctrine catholics follow with their bible which not to mention also includes the Tobit, Judith, Maccabees, etc which are completely irrelevant.

The point i'm trying to get at is when the catholics follow their bible, they aren't following God and rather adhering to man's religious beliefs and denomination, so by definition they aren't christian.
Catholics have books added in Torah that are not in original Torah btw
 
Catholics have books added in Torah that are not in original Torah btw
Yep, theres a reason why the Apocrypha wasn't included in the Bible... so man including it is changing God's word.

I'm unaware of the specifics but it would come with no surprise.
 
Yep, theres a reason why the Apocrypha wasn't included in the Bible... so man including it is changing God's word.

I'm unaware of the specifics but it would come with no surprise.
I’m asking everyone recently, but what is your denomination?
 
Stop coping with God! It's all meaningless if we don't get pussy out of it!
 
If we are following the scriptures out of the Bible, men are spiritually equal to that of women - and there is no "worship" of course to that of either gender, nor giving women the unique roles to that of men.

Although in Modern "Christianity" and the woke progressiveness they are seen to be put on a pedestal and have authority to that of men and even more. Even now in some churches there are female pastors which is just ridiculous.



Some verses on the matter:

1 Timothy 2:12:
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet"

1 Corinthians 14:34-35:
"The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church."

Ephesians 5:22:
"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord."

Titus 2:5:
"submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled."


Modern day "Christians" will see these verses and dismiss them as they don't "appeal to the modern agenda" - and pastors/priests have fallen for the devils trap and put women on a pedestal, showing no punishment for their wrongdoings.



Biblical Position

My position is not that men are more valuable than women. Scripture teaches that men and women are equally created in the image of God and equally in need of salvation through Christ (Galatians 3:28).

However, equality of worth does not mean sameness of roles. God assigns different responsibilities to different people. Just as parents and children have different roles, men and women are also given different responsibilities. For men this is providing and protecting, whilst for women this is nurturing and caring.

When these women are treated of more value it is a rejection of the biblical order established by God. And you never see it the other way around either... it's a result of modern day feminism creeping into churches and corrupting the doctrine.

At the same time, Christians are commanded to judge actions according to God's standards while remembering that ultimate judgment belongs to God. But having said that of course we can still identify sin, error, and wrongdoings.



Judgement:

The Lord says that we can judge peoples actions, but let them not be judged as a whole. Meaning not basing their action they did onto their entire self.

For example:
If a women commits adultery more often than men - then we take precautions around certain areas and logically make generalisations. And we can of course judge them off their actions but not for them as a person if that makes sense.

“Judging” actions is part of moral discernment. But reducing someone to their worst behaviour, crosses into a kind of judgment that’s reserved for God on the Day of Judgement.



TLDR;
Men and women are equal in value before God, but equality does not mean identical roles or responsibilities. Scripture assigns different roles to men and women in the family and church.

Christians should judge actions according to God's standards. Judging behaviour is different from condemning a person's entire character or eternal destiny.

Modern cultural influences, such as feminism, are affecting most churches interpretation of scripture and leading believers astray with a false doctrine.

@Lo3e @thevineyardworker @The_word_made_flesh
It's a shame because now we're getting into a new age of Christianity, almost liberal Christianity, which is now making women pastors, making them even actually have authority in the church over men. Some of the women are also homosexuals so now we've got the head of the church, homosexuals practicing homosexual sin and also going directly against God's Word and also what Paul taught
 
So is the tongues speaking real?
It most certainly is - everyone in my church speaks in tongues (apart from some of the younger people who are still yet to receive), although I haven't received yet but am still seeking. All in the Lords timing.

If you are interested I'll just link a few of my favourite threads regarding speaking in tongues and the salvation message below:

Any questions, I'd love to answer
 
It's a shame because now we're getting into a new age of Christianity, almost liberal Christianity, which is now making women pastors, making them even actually have authority in the church over men. Some of the women are also homosexuals so now we've got the head of the church, homosexuals practicing homosexual sin and also going directly against God's Word and also what Paul taught
Yep, nothing short of the devil leading true believers astray with false doctrines and "translations" - which we all know to be scriptural changes. So much more to say on the matter.

You've got to read that book, it really is worth the read - even just the first 20 pages:
It's like a summary of each major point. It's one of those books that you can re-read and learn something new each time.
 
Yep, nothing short of the devil leading true believers astray with false doctrines and "translations" - which we all know to be scriptural changes. So much more to say on the matter.

You've got to read that book, it really is worth the read - even just the first 20 pages:
It's like a summary of each major point. It's one of those books that you can re-read and learn something new each time.
I'm thinking about leaving the Pentecostal fold and joining a Reformed church.
 
What are the reasons for the shift?
I have noticed weak theology and weak praise directed at Christworship that was human-centered rather than focused on the biblical text. There were other issues, too, such as the idolizing of pastors and leaders. Preaching was not grounded in the Bible; there were many personal testimonies and accounts of experiences, but little exposition of the Scriptures. I missed actually learning from the sermons; Christ-centered preaching was lacking. Most of the music appealed to emotionsfocusing on our pain and achievementsand there was an excessive emphasis on speaking in tongues. There was also a tendency to equate holiness with the clothes one wears.
 
Not a Christian, but this is a lifefuel thread
 

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