Blackpill [STUDY] Human touch makes us feel happy and relaxed, couples sleeping together have better REM sleep, autistic people are hormonally sleep impaired

"Why do you care about sex and relationships??? "

Simply sleeping in the same bed as your gf/wife will improve your sleep. Simply being touched by someone will release hormones that will relax you, make you feel happy and positive and thus also help you to sleep

"Bed-Sharing in Couples Is Associated With Increased and Stabilized REM Sleep and Sleep-Stage Synchronization"​

(PDF) Bed-Sharing in Couples Is Associated With Increased and Stabilized REM Sleep and Sleep-Stage Synchronization

PDF | Background/Objectives: Sharing the bed with a partner is common among adults and impacts sleep quality with potential implications for mental... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

"Results: As compared to sleeping individually, co-sleeping was associated with about 10% more REM sleep, less fragmented REM sleep (p = 0.008), longer undisturbed REM fragments (p = 0.0006), and more limb movements (p = 0.007)."

Spoiler: Some benefits of REM sleep

This is interesting but from what I've read they don't really have a clear explanation as for why this is the case

I have a hypothesis which i will back up with studies:

Hypothesis: Bed-sharing couples sleep better because of human touch. Human touch produces serotonin which is a precursor of melatonin, the hormone of sleep


Let's back up the fact that simple human touch will increase your serotonin level

Cortisol decreases and serotonin and dopamine increase following massage therapy ​

(PDF) Cortisol decreases and serotonin increases following massage therapy

PDF | In this article the positive effects of massage therapy on biochemistry are reviewed including decreased levels of cortisol and increased levels... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

In studies in which cortisol was assayed either in saliva or in urine, significant decreases were noted in cortisol levels (averaging decreases 31%). In studies in which the activating neurotransmitters (serotonin and dopamine) were assayed in urine, an average increase of 28% was noted for serotonin and an average increase of 31% was noted for dopamine.

The decrease in cortisol and increase in dopamine are already interesting but it is the serotonin increase that interests me the most

Serotonin is a neurotransmitter that is associated with relaxation, positivity, a sense of feeling good etc. It's the happiness drug of our body.
That alone sounds like it would help you sleep right? Well it gets better: serotonin is a precursor of melatonin, the hormone of sleep (see pic below)

Melatonin regulates our circadian rythm (the body's internal clock in layman's terms) and it is the key to good sleep. Melatonin is often used to treat sleep disorders or to promote a better sleep. I've put 2 studies on melatonin in the spoiler if you're interested

Spoiler: More on melatonin

The effectiveness of melatonin for promoting healthy sleep: a rapid evidence assessment of the literature​

The effectiveness of melatonin for promoting healthy sleep: a rapid evidence assessment of the literature

A systematic review was conducted using Samueli Institute’s Rapid Evidence Assessment of the Literature (REAL[©] ) process to determine the evidence base for melatonin as an agent to optimize sleep or improve sleep quality, and generalize ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Meta-Analysis: Melatonin for the Treatment of Primary Sleep Disorders​

Meta-Analysis: Melatonin for the Treatment of Primary Sleep Disorders

To investigate the efficacy of melatonin compared to placebo in improving sleep parameters in patients with primary sleep disorders.PubMed was searched for randomized, placebo-controlled trials examining the effects of melatonin for the treatment of primary ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

IF YOU ARE LONELY YOU'RE MISSING OUT ON GOOD SLEEP ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE

BONUS BLACKPILL: Autistic people are known to have disturbances in the serotonin-melatonin pathway. They're sleep impaired on a hormonal level
If you're autistic and have trouble sleeping it could be because of your autism. Roughly 50-80% of autistic children suffer from sleep disorders

Can't fucking catch a break ffs @Atavistic Autist

The Serotonin-Melatonin Pathway in Autism Spectrum Disorders: An Extensive Biochemical Study | Request PDF

Request PDF | The Serotonin-Melatonin Pathway in Autism Spectrum Disorders: An Extensive Biochemical Study | Background: Autism is known to be associated with hyperserotoninemia and, more recently, with decreased blood melatonin level. Melatonin is a... | Find, read and cite all the research you...

www.researchgate.net

Autism spectrum disorder (ASD): Disturbance of the melatonin system and its implications

The molecular mechanisms underlying autism spectrum disorder (ASD) remain elusive, which limits the management options available in the clinic. Accumu…

www.sciencedirect.com

WHITEPILL: Supplementing Melatonin did help autistic people sleep, but it did not fix the problem entirely

Study: Long-term melatonin use can aid sleep quality in youths with ASD | AAP News | American Academy of Pediatrics

www.aappublications.org

But if supplementing melatonin helped autistic people sleep then I think being in a relationship would also help them. But we all know how fucked those people are when it comes to dating ...


@Selinity @soymonkcel

@SergeantIncel @Master

 

[Lifeisbullshit95]

I don't know who are these motherfuckers with their experiments but i hate to sleep with someone.

 

[Deleted member 7438]

Cuddling with my niece are some of my happiest moments

 

[N-Digger]

Confirming that last point about Autistic people getting a worse quality of sleep. I have Autism and no matter how much I sleep I am always tired and every day it will about an hour or two for my mind to truly "wake up" to where it's functioning at normal levels. Bag under eyes have been with me for years and do not ever go away, this makes me look perpetually tired and negatively impacts my SMV. Combine this with extremely pale skin from only going out of the house rarely and it looks quite bad.
I've also been diagnosed with sleep apnea and have to wear a breathing mask every single night for probably the rest of my life if technology doesn't improve to provide a better solution.

I just realised while typing this out that I have an uncanny resemblance to my profile picture on this site in real life. Choosing it wasn't intentional for that reason but it was a interesting coincidence.

 

[Gymcelled]

Confirming that last point about Autistic people getting a worse quality of sleep. I have Autism and no matter how much I sleep I am always tired and every day it will about an hour or two for my mind to truly "wake up" to where it's functioning at normal levels. Bag under eyes have been with me for years and do not ever go away, this makes me look perpetually tired and negatively impacts my SMV. Combine this with extremely pale skin from only going out of the house rarely and it looks quite bad.
I've also been diagnosed with sleep apnea and have to wear a breathing mask every single night for probably the rest of my life if technology doesn't improve to provide a better solution.

I just realised while typing this out that I have an uncanny resemblance to my profile picture on this site in real life. Choosing it wasn't intentional for that reason but it was a interesting coincidence.

You probably can't get much REM sleep
You should try melatonin, it should give you a bit more REM sleep and it's not expensive

 

[PPEcel]

Brutal

 

[TheIncredibleIncel]

^When a normie says that sex is overrated and doesn't really matter all that much

Love this meme.

Also this thread reminds me of how rabbits died of loneliness.

 

[Gymcelled]

Very good post once again. Affection isn't in the tier 3 of the A. Maslow's hierarchy of needs by chance. When I see the sheep (in the town I'm living now) at night, I see them all sleeping very close to each other; that can't be by chance either, because they do that even in summertime.

I wonder now: in case robowaifus were here very soon (don't think so)... would they be able to fulfill this (getting better REM sleep by being by our side)? I have serious doubts. Maybe the warmth and chemicals from a woman could make a sensible difference. Who knows?

First the robotwaifus would have to not be banned because of foid anger and pressure

Almost every scientific advancement ended up fucking men over and benefiting women, I can't see robot waifus being a thing

 

[Deleted member 6214]

Could you replicate this with a large teddy bear perhaps?

 

[Mulattocel]

I get maybe one peaceful night of sleep every 3 weeks

 

[Loner94]

..and femoids think they have it bad lmao they have no idea.

 

[Gymcelled]

Could you replicate this with a large teddy bear perhaps?

I think this is why body pillows are a thing. Some people say they bring comfort to them.
Same thing with weighted blankets

 

[cowboy-emoji]

negative iq normies will see this thread and instantly think you are advocating for forced gf's.

on another note, imagine all the damage we take from years of being lonely.

 

[Gymcelled]

negative iq normies will see this thread and instantly think you are advocating for forced gf's.

on another note, imagine all the damage we take from years of being lonely.

Because whenever women and soys complain about something, ANYTHING, what immediately follows (or what is implied) is that they want the government to come in and give them what they want or lack. It's pure projection on their part, as always

Some of us are damaged beyond repair at this point tbh

 

[mänline]

Loneliness kills.. we are social animals. This is literal baby tier knowledge yet because of Fem propaganda it's been culturally "forgotten" aka stamped out by the Gynocracy. Which is why the suicide rate for Males is so high. Touch starvation is killing Men in great proportions in a way similar to how a Genocide would be planned. The Gynocracy is only too happy to keep lying to Men in an attempt to get them to kill themselves. Giving Foids power and rights leads to mass cruelty.

The funny thing is, while females are probably never are forced to loneliness, they would probably even gain attraction when they have such weaknesses. Also, the Damsel in distress is a legit social and mating strategy - if on purpose or not. A man who has problems and needs is a potentially dangerous and a dispensible creature, and when he even laments about it, he loses it all.

I literally can't remember any time I went to sleep and woke up truly refereshed.
I always wake up feeling more tired than when I went to sleep. After going back to sleep or forcing myself awake I go back to neutral at best.

I work in shift work and besides the disadvantage that my sleep rhythm is often a chaos, I can sleep in late and night shift wake up, when I truly feel so. Strangely I am often not more or less energetic after 10 hours than after 4 hours.

 

[Words2_live_bye]

BONUS BLACKPILL: Autistic people are known to have disturbances in the serotonin-melatonin pathway. They're sleep impaired on a hormonal level
If you're autistic and have trouble sleeping it could be because of your autism. Roughly 50-80% of autistic children suffer from sleep disorders

i'm autistic and i peed the bed up until i was 15
and i still have problems sleeping

 

[BlkPillPres]

IDK man, I just jerk off when its getting close to sleep time so when I get to bed I go out like a rock. Men are biologically designed to rest and even sleep afterwards (look it up). So maybe some incels just need to be more strategic about their fap sessions rather than just fapping randomly 3 times a day lol

 

[your personality]

Because whenever women and soys complain about something, ANYTHING, what immediately follows (or what is implied) is that they want the government to come in and give them what they want or lack. It's pure projection on their part, as always

Density of a neutron star in kg/m^3 IQ.

 

[Gymcelled]

IDK man, I just jerk off when its getting close to sleep time so when I get to bed I go out like a rock. Men are biologically designed to rest and even sleep afterwards (look it up). So maybe some incels just need to be more strategic about their fap sessions rather than just fapping randomly 3 times a day lol

Yup I've read articles on that. Strangely enough cumming wakes me up. I think it's because I want to fap more than once

Density of a neutron star in kg/m^3 IQ.

That's a good one

 

[Emba]

I'm fucked

Reported for having sex

 

[FUCKITALLREEE]

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The closest approximation to cuddling for autists is NEETdom.

Neetdom is empty, coping with technology between 4 walls can't replace the hierarchy of needs.

Also no wonder why i need to take melatonin every fucking night.

 

[SirIncel]

That's why I sleep in the same bed with my cat every night. It's obviously much worse than a human but so much better than nothing.

 

[Indari]

They microdosing psilocybin

 

[YBP Yxngcel]

"Why do you care about sex and relationships??? "

Simply sleeping in the same bed as your gf/wife will improve your sleep. Simply being touched by someone will release hormones that will relax you, make you feel happy and positive and thus also help you to sleep

"Bed-Sharing in Couples Is Associated With Increased and Stabilized REM Sleep and Sleep-Stage Synchronization"​

(PDF) Bed-Sharing in Couples Is Associated With Increased and Stabilized REM Sleep and Sleep-Stage Synchronization

PDF | Background/Objectives: Sharing the bed with a partner is common among adults and impacts sleep quality with potential implications for mental... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

"Results: As compared to sleeping individually, co-sleeping was associated with about 10% more REM sleep, less fragmented REM sleep (p = 0.008), longer undisturbed REM fragments (p = 0.0006), and more limb movements (p = 0.007)."

Spoiler: Some benefits of REM sleep

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This is interesting but from what I've read they don't really have a clear explanation as for why this is the case

I have a hypothesis which i will back up with studies:

Hypothesis: Bed-sharing couples sleep better because of human touch. Human touch produces serotonin which is a precursor of melatonin, the hormone of sleep


Let's back up the fact that simple human touch will increase your serotonin level

Cortisol decreases and serotonin and dopamine increase following massage therapy ​

(PDF) Cortisol decreases and serotonin increases following massage therapy

PDF | In this article the positive effects of massage therapy on biochemistry are reviewed including decreased levels of cortisol and increased levels... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

In studies in which cortisol was assayed either in saliva or in urine, significant decreases were noted in cortisol levels (averaging decreases 31%). In studies in which the activating neurotransmitters (serotonin and dopamine) were assayed in urine, an average increase of 28% was noted for serotonin and an average increase of 31% was noted for dopamine.

The decrease in cortisol and increase in dopamine are already interesting but it is the serotonin increase that interests me the most

Serotonin is a neurotransmitter that is associated with relaxation, positivity, a sense of feeling good etc. It's the happiness drug of our body.
That alone sounds like it would help you sleep right? Well it gets better: serotonin is a precursor of melatonin, the hormone of sleep (see pic below)

Melatonin regulates our circadian rythm (the body's internal clock in layman's terms) and it is the key to good sleep. Melatonin is often used to treat sleep disorders or to promote a better sleep. I've put 2 studies on melatonin in the spoiler if you're interested

Spoiler: More on melatonin

The effectiveness of melatonin for promoting healthy sleep: a rapid evidence assessment of the literature​

The effectiveness of melatonin for promoting healthy sleep: a rapid evidence assessment of the literature

A systematic review was conducted using Samueli Institute’s Rapid Evidence Assessment of the Literature (REAL[©] ) process to determine the evidence base for melatonin as an agent to optimize sleep or improve sleep quality, and generalize ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Meta-Analysis: Melatonin for the Treatment of Primary Sleep Disorders​

Meta-Analysis: Melatonin for the Treatment of Primary Sleep Disorders

To investigate the efficacy of melatonin compared to placebo in improving sleep parameters in patients with primary sleep disorders.PubMed was searched for randomized, placebo-controlled trials examining the effects of melatonin for the treatment of primary ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

IF YOU ARE LONELY YOU'RE MISSING OUT ON GOOD SLEEP ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE

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BONUS BLACKPILL: Autistic people are known to have disturbances in the serotonin-melatonin pathway. They're sleep impaired on a hormonal level
If you're autistic and have trouble sleeping it could be because of your autism. Roughly 50-80% of autistic children suffer from sleep disorders

Can't fucking catch a break ffs @Atavistic Autist

The Serotonin-Melatonin Pathway in Autism Spectrum Disorders: An Extensive Biochemical Study | Request PDF

Request PDF | The Serotonin-Melatonin Pathway in Autism Spectrum Disorders: An Extensive Biochemical Study | Background: Autism is known to be associated with hyperserotoninemia and, more recently, with decreased blood melatonin level. Melatonin is a... | Find, read and cite all the research you...

www.researchgate.net

Autism spectrum disorder (ASD): Disturbance of the melatonin system and its implications

The molecular mechanisms underlying autism spectrum disorder (ASD) remain elusive, which limits the management options available in the clinic. Accumu…

www.sciencedirect.com

WHITEPILL: Supplementing Melatonin did help autistic people sleep, but it did not fix the problem entirely

Study: Long-term melatonin use can aid sleep quality in youths with ASD | AAP News | American Academy of Pediatrics

www.aappublications.org

But if supplementing melatonin helped autistic people sleep then I think being in a relationship would also help them. But we all know how fucked those people are when it comes to dating ...


@Selinity @soymonkcel

@SergeantIncel @Master

Oh fuck,well that explains alot. I can barely sleep because it's so hot in bed.

 

[decembrist_kirillov]

i need human touch more than ever

 

[nystagmuscel]

This is why suicide is the only way to feel at peace if youre autistic

Not even being knocked out or sleeping helps

Over for touch repulsed cels

 

[BlackPilledOverdose]

I'm autistic and I always feel super tired when I wake up for about an hour.

 

[oldshorty]

Old guy here, 67. I'd go with the Melatonin. I use Zarbees gummies. They are available at CVS. I don't have issues related to autism or anything like that, and being alone does not keep me awake at night, but sometimes dealing with issues of the day does. The gummies really do help. I've had good experience with Relaxium as well. I've slept alone for the entirety of my 67 plus years, and that hasn't bothered me at all. It's all I know, so..... Wishing you guys all the best...

 

[oldshorty]

Oh, I forgot to add that I still am tired during the day, but in my case it is largely due to a genetic form of anemia. Permanent unfixable low blood count.

 

[Nemesis]

I remember when I taked melatonin to sleep better. I falled asleep much faster, but the sleep quality was really bad. I waked up every few hours each night. It's a really bad substitute for an another person. I recomend much more sleeping with a pillow. Just normal pillow, that one you put under your head. Just hug to it when you fall asleep. You will sleep much better than before. I really recomend this metod

 

[Nemesis]

First the robotwaifus would have to not be banned because of foid anger and pressure

Almost every scientific advancement ended up fucking men over and benefiting women, I can't see robot waifus being a thing

Second, they will protably spy on you for the goverment, chineese or yours

 

[CIA nigger]

normies are ecstatic knowing there is anything out here reducing our quality of life. they want me to fucking die more than i do

 

[CIA nigger]

Old guy here, 67. I'd go with the Melatonin. I use Zarbees gummies. They are available at CVS. I don't have issues related to autism or anything like that, and being alone does not keep me awake at night, but sometimes dealing with issues of the day does. The gummies really do help. I've had good experience with Relaxium as well. I've slept alone for the entirety of my 67 plus years, and that hasn't bothered me at all. It's all I know, so..... Wishing you guys all the best...

@Emba are you seeing this shit?? this oldcel age mogs you 67 fucking years old. this is too brutal buddy boyos

 

[Emba]

@Emba are you seeing this shit?? this oldcel age mogs you 67 fucking years old. this is too brutal buddy boyos

Oh, thank all the gods! Finally!

Hey, @oldshorty welcome to the club bro. Read the rules and try to stick around! I'm tired of being the oldestcel. (60) here's you're "elderhat" and "bludgeon of wisdom!"​

It's time for my dirtnap. (Jk)

 

[bigantennaemay1]

BONUS BLACKPILL: Autistic people are known to have disturbances in the serotonin-melatonin pathway. They're sleep impaired on a hormonal level
If you're autistic and have trouble sleeping it could be because of your autism. Roughly 50-80% of autistic children suffer from sleep disorders

Can't fucking catch a break ffs @[UWSL] /data/avatars/s/8/8243.jpg?1640964777 [/UWSL]@Atavistic Autist

The Serotonin-Melatonin Pathway in Autism Spectrum Disorders: An Extensive Biochemical Study | Request PDF

Request PDF | The Serotonin-Melatonin Pathway in Autism Spectrum Disorders: An Extensive Biochemical Study | Background: Autism is known to be associated with hyperserotoninemia and, more recently, with decreased blood melatonin level. Melatonin is a... | Find, read and cite all the research you...

www.researchgate.net

Autism spectrum disorder (ASD): Disturbance of the melatonin system and its implications

The molecular mechanisms underlying autism spectrum disorder (ASD) remain elusive, which limits the management options available in the clinic. Accumu…

www.sciencedirect.com

WHITEPILL: Supplementing Melatonin did help autistic people sleep, but it did not fix the problem entirely

Study: Long-term melatonin use can aid sleep quality in youths with ASD | AAP News | American Academy of Pediatrics

www.aappublications.org

But if supplementing melatonin helped autistic people sleep then I think being in a relationship would also help them. But we all know how fucked those people are when it comes to dating ...

Brutal. Autismpill is the worst pill.

I've had sleep issues my entire life. I've been battling episodes of insomnia for so long I can tell when one is coming on even if I don't actually feel the restlessness yet. And I've tried Melatonin supplements before; they don't work at all on me. But knowing that if I had a loving gf that my sleep issues which have been tormenting me literally my whole life would find relief, just because I would be laying in bed with someone, but being stuck as an autistic incel? That fills me with rage. The cure to my insomnia problems is unattainable because I was born with shit genetics that gave me a shit mental illness at birth.

On the other hand, THC helps me sleep, but it also gets me very high, and very groggy after waking up the next day. It comes with a price.

 

[CIA nigger]

Oh, thank all the gods! Finally!

Hey, @oldshorty welcome to the club bro. Read the rules and try to stick around! I'm tired of being the oldestcel. (60) here's you're "elderhat" and "bludgeon of wisdom!"​

It's time for my dirtnap. (Jk)

i thought you were born in 1973 this nigga like a dinosaur nd shiet

 

[Emba]

i thought you were born in 1973 this nigga like a dinosaur nd shiet

*1962
Yeah, he's old. Hope he sticks around.

 

[bigantennaemay1]

I hate touching another person while sleeping

How would you know?

 

[Caesercel]

How would you know?

 

[Tax]

On the other hand, THC helps me sleep, but it also gets me very high, and very groggy after waking up the next day. It comes with a price.

Same, I don’t mind the high and it always puts me to sleep but THC combined with my sleep apnea makes it almost impossible for me to even get out of bed in the morning. I’m tired 24/7 no matter how much sleep I get anyways.

 

[bigantennaemay1]

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Oh sorry, my bad. I didn't realize you were Ethiopean.

 

[bigantennaemay1]

I’m tired 24/7 no matter how much sleep I get anyways.

Yeah, I've noticed that exhaustion never seems to leave me be, no matter what I've tried. I've just grown used to it.

 

[faded]

The autism bit is interesting. My sleeping is very erratic. The human touch thing is a no brainer.

 

[IncelHeII]

Wow I really need a fucking study to tell me that getting my cock touched and getting a back rub and giving a girl a butt rub would make me happier and less depressed? Money well spent Who could of guessed going your entire life without touching a foid would make you deranged

 

[Gymcelled]

Wow I really need a fucking study to tell me that getting my cock touched and getting a back rub and giving a girl a butt rub would make me happier and less depressed? Money well spent Who could of guessed going your entire life without touching a foid would make you deranged

Plenty of people gaslight us to hell telling us you can do just fine, relationships and sex arent important teehee

Of course everytime, the same people lose their fucking mind after a few weeks of no relationship/sex, remember how normies screeched online after being in lockdown for a month?

 

[Puppeter]

This is why suicide is the only way to feel at peace if youre autistic

Not even being knocked out or sleeping helps

 

[Linguinicel]

 

[Lonelyus]

I hate touching another person while sleeping

I rather want the bed for myself this whole thread is a joke!

 

[Lonelyus]

Just smoke a fat blunt and youll pass right out

 

[theautismcel]

I'm autistic and take melatonin to sleep

 

[TheInklingofAnIncel]

Melatoninmaxx