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You know these meds are for handicapped, yet they dont magically Turn you into something opposite.
If anything, they sedate you.
Its ONLY pleasent behind walls.
Theory The Truth Behind Psychiatry, The Mental Health Industry and SSRIs
You know these meds are for handicapped, yet they dont magically Turn you into something opposite.
If anything, they sedate you.
Its ONLY pleasent behind walls.
To sedate girl!
Tbh good drugs are gatekept and probably illegal. If SSRIs and other jewpills actually worked, mental health issues and rope rates would’ve been decreasing. In fact they’re probably more of a cause. But the rope rates they’re only on the rise jfl. They don’t really care I guess. I just need to get opioids and do controlled doses tbh…
This is a very good post.
However. I think you've done a bit too much jumping around with the hormones.
Every and each hormone is essential for human function. E.g, without cortisol you would become an unmotivated zombie (Addison's disease).
I've known people who are so unstable they would have offed themselves a long time ago without meds. There is no doubt pills are effective but only on people who REALLY NEED THEM.
Of course Americans being Americans want to use pills for easy solutions, like Ozempic usage demonstrates.
I think a point about a lot of people institutionalized killing themselves is that most of them are so fucked mentally they need to be there in the first place. If you put a normal guy into that place for a month, I think he would come out fine if shaken.
The biggest problem with psichiatry and psych meds is that the brain is the most complex organ in existence and nobody really knows shit, so we are trying to use pills as sliders hoping that everything will go to normal.
However. I think you've done a bit too much jumping around with the hormones.
Every and each hormone is essential for human function. E.g, without cortisol you would become an unmotivated zombie (Addison's disease).
I've known people who are so unstable they would have offed themselves a long time ago without meds. There is no doubt pills are effective but only on people who REALLY NEED THEM.
Of course Americans being Americans want to use pills for easy solutions, like Ozempic usage demonstrates.
I think a point about a lot of people institutionalized killing themselves is that most of them are so fucked mentally they need to be there in the first place. If you put a normal guy into that place for a month, I think he would come out fine if shaken.
The biggest problem with psichiatry and psych meds is that the brain is the most complex organ in existence and nobody really knows shit, so we are trying to use pills as sliders hoping that everything will go to normal.
Yeah I have a lot to learn still. Maybe I’ll update and refine on some stuff. But thanks for reading anyway
I think antidepressants spike and fuck with cortisol and testosterone and even prolactin too and Reproductive functions in general. Leaves people impotent ngl. Mentally and physically…My theory is that antidepressants desensitise you to cortisol by making it so high to the point where you’re numb, have memory issues etc. so of course it’s all dose dependent as well. High doses can be crippling af. I was on 20mg
this thread NEEDS to be pinned. its one of my favorite threads now with real information. i might show this to my parents to try and tell them to stop forcing me to take 1000 different medications.
Tbh antidepressants are a Russian Roulette with 5 bullets out of 6 chambers.Yeah I have a lot to learn still. Maybe I’ll update and refine on some stuff. But thanks for reading anyway
My theory is that antidepressants desensitise you to cortisol by making it so high to the point where you’re numb, have memory issues etc. so of course it’s all dose dependent as well. High doses can be crippling af. I was on 20mg
My father tried one and threw it in the trash because how bad it made him feel.
Even the good cases I know needed to through multiple different ones to find the one that doesn't just fuck their shit up.
They are supposed to restore neurotransmitter balance, but usually just make things worse.
Before SSRIs There were MAOIs, which might be better in some cases, but you could kill yourself by eating Cheese lol, so they don't prescribe them much anymore.
That’s a good description tbh
I have a theory it generally makes men feel worse because of lowered testosterone increased estrogen etc. I find it very interesting how antidepressants mostly work so well with foids
Parasite theory is interesting as fuck. Read the parasite pill pdf I think you’ll find it interesting. I linked it in with parasite theory because all the symptoms scarily align with SSRI side effects and parasites reside in the gut and 95% of serotonin is in the gut or something and the microbiome or some shit it controls behaviour idk it’s a lot to take in. But the link is definitely real.View attachment 1201115 brutel its over for me
It would further explains why people go schizo, commit suicide and go on rampages on SSRIs especially high doses. They’re not really in control it’s maybe like they’re possessed or compromised by parasites etc.
Well there might be more reasons:
That’s a good description tbh
I have a theory it generally makes men feel worse because of lowered testosterone increased estrogen etc. I find it very interesting how antidepressants mostly work so well with foids
1.Women seem to be more susceptible to mumbo jumbo(therapy,horoscope, crystals,etc.)
2.Women have higher rates of mental illness(so the pills might actually be effective more often and the meds more adjusted for foids in general).
3.There is also the fact that foids are better at gaslighting themselves(see first point), so the longterm effects of psych drugs for foids might be just as bad.
Antidepressants are definitely not good for foid’s eggs. There’s studies that say SSRIs fuck up sperm dna too. Not far fetched to say that they fuck up eggs too. I wonder how many trucels were birthed all because foids couldn’t stop themselves from taking antidepressants especially when pregnant
So those are side effects foids definitely should be worried about tbh. These reasons are valid too especially about foids believing BS jfl.
Dang i have all these
I had more info but it’s too late to update
the rabbit hole goes deep man. If I make a part 2 I’ll @ you
thank you! another thread about this would be helpful.I had more info but it’s too late to update
Brutal mang. Do you have a weak immune system?
I'm glad I've never taken any medication in my entire life
those are all just generic symptonsView attachment 1201115 brutel its over for me
The patterns in brain scans differ between psychopaths and autists, plus psychopaths still resemble normalfags a lot more than they do autists. This observation alone is very poignant and insightful. Normies and psychopaths share more in common with each other than we do with either, yet it's not concerning to normgroids that their neural pathways are structured more like emotionless amoral despicable human beings.
High functioning autistic brain is more beautiful tbh
The patterns in brain scans differ between psychopaths and autists, plus psychopaths still resemble normalfags a lot more than they do autists. This observation alone is very poignant and insightful. Normies and psychopaths share more in common with each other than we do with either, yet it's not concerning to normgroids that their neural pathways are structured more like emotionless amoral despicable human beings.
but yeah normies and psychopaths I’ve always thought there’s a thin line between those two.
Good I think there’s better options like nutritional psychiatry (fixing your diet basically) and other drugs like ketamine and opioids in controlled doses. Maybe even psychedelics but I don’t know much about them now still need to research
They basically give SSRIs to autists because it kind of destroys these connections in their mind as you see in the diagram I think. It literally kills brain cells I swear or at least severs the connections.High functioning autistic brain is more beautiful tbh
Autism should just be weaponised tbh and should be hired for highly specialised jobs and stuff. High functioning I mean.
The end goal of medication doses is to sedate non NTs and make them more normal in their thought patterns, so it would sense if that meant they deliberately want to rewire the brains of autists to look more like a normie's when both are placed under scans.
SSRI's seem cucked af man... Nice for you that you are off that shit.
They literally manufacture consent jfl. Consent to what? Consent to taking and accepting all the injustices in your life without doing anything about it. They make you more passive and accepting and also blind to all the shit you have faced in your life and are currently facing. On top of that it doesn’t make anyone happy it just makes them numb asf. Literally rots your brain cells by severing connections and even killing them.
This of course makes you a “no thoughts head empty person” and makes one exploitable af. Literally makes you brain dead. But that’s basically every psych med.
Genuinely one of the biggest scams of our time. High serotonin automatically lowers dopamine and sucks away any enjoyment you have in life. Leaving one a numb zombie. Especially with cortisol spikes etc.
Recovery isn’t quick either. This shit and its effects stay in the system for a very long time. I’m nowhere near fully recovered. Also withdrawals can be hell. Genuinely shit tier drug. I’ll make a part 2 to cover what I missed here
But TLDR they gradually turn your brain into mush.
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I wish to stop taking them they stop my performance and thinking make me feel worse than before feels like its eating my brain like sensations headaches and dizzyness
Do you get brain zaps?I wish to stop taking them they stop my performance and thinking make me feel worse than before feels like its eating my brain like sensations headaches and dizzyness
sometimes i do not much
Whats it like trying to come off the SSRI's guys? Even with a taper are there withdrawal symtoms? Relapse into depression / anxiety?
I cold turkeyed (if you’ve been taking long term don’t do that) and I felt shit for a long while but in the end I started feeling better this takes a very long time though depending on the SSRI, how strong it is and how long it stays in your system
Good observation normies are evil
The patterns in brain scans differ between psychopaths and autists, plus psychopaths still resemble normalfags a lot more than they do autists. This observation alone is very poignant and insightful. Normies and psychopaths share more in common with each other than we do with either, yet it's not concerning to normgroids that their neural pathways are structured more like emotionless amoral despicable human beings.
the only thing therapists care about is your employability and if you're working. otherwise, they dont give a fuck
ER's problem started at home with his WMAF parents, no amount of therapy was gonna even touch that issue with a ten foot poleThey wanted ER on medication but he refused. ER was also in therapy and it didn't help him stop any of the shit he was gonna do. Goes to show how useless and fucked up the systems are
Yeah therapists only care about making you a wageslave. They don't want you to be happy, they just want another functional wageslave for the system. That's their whole job. Their job isn't making people feel better, because that wouldn't benefit society, their job is to make more people wageslaves instead of NEEts, because that would benefit society.
Extremely high IQ post. This should be put in must-read.
I would, actually, really like your input on my situation.
I myself have been in a bit of a pickle. It started long ago - I wasn't doing well in school, and I was dabbling with psychologists and special ed ever since elementary. Got diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder, symptoms of dysgraphia. Extremely hyperactive, stimming, tics, etc. since I was a kid. Fast forward to Middle School, I get diagnosed with ADHD. I realize I can't really do well in school, but I'm not a hopeless zombie yet and can still feel emotions, have some times where I shine in the sense that there's a few things I can do very well, etc. High School comes, and just before COVID hits I start doing well for myself - grades go up for the first time in my life jfl, I exercise, shit like that. Then came COVID and basically undid all of that, fucked me up mentally, etc.
Here's where it gets interesting: second lockdown wave comes, fucks me over once again. Except this time, during the winter I just lay down in bed one day and can't get up no matter what for a solid week. I feel physically weak, dizzy, tired, numb, etc. but I also sleep very late at night. I actually also got a COVID test done on me where they jabbed some shit up my nose, and when that week of me feeling like ass is over I get COVID for a few days and since then can't breathe well through my nose or smell jfl.
Anyways, it's been a few years since then and I think I somehow managed to get really fucked up. Emotional blunting, loss of motivation, loss of inhibition, just want to stay at home all day doing nothing and browsing the internet. I still have the ADHD shit, including tics and stimming - that's likely neurological/biochemical, won't go away. Anyway, I go to a psychiatrist because I am like "what the fuck, not only are my original issues still there but it's getting worse??" and long story short I wasn't taken seriously but was put on SSRIs. I noticed no difference, though people around me said I was less irritable. I stopped it after a month because of this and because getting refills was a pain in the ass as I was switching back and forth between countries. Months later, I took concerta and, again, nothing happened. People said it made me more irritable, if anything.
I've also taken some other shit like mirtazapine, argomelanin, modafinil, etc. with no effects - though a lot of these need 30 years to "properly kick in," whatever that means. I've no clue what's going on or what to do, but I do know I am being played.
I would, actually, really like your input on my situation.
I myself have been in a bit of a pickle. It started long ago - I wasn't doing well in school, and I was dabbling with psychologists and special ed ever since elementary. Got diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder, symptoms of dysgraphia. Extremely hyperactive, stimming, tics, etc. since I was a kid. Fast forward to Middle School, I get diagnosed with ADHD. I realize I can't really do well in school, but I'm not a hopeless zombie yet and can still feel emotions, have some times where I shine in the sense that there's a few things I can do very well, etc. High School comes, and just before COVID hits I start doing well for myself - grades go up for the first time in my life jfl, I exercise, shit like that. Then came COVID and basically undid all of that, fucked me up mentally, etc.
Here's where it gets interesting: second lockdown wave comes, fucks me over once again. Except this time, during the winter I just lay down in bed one day and can't get up no matter what for a solid week. I feel physically weak, dizzy, tired, numb, etc. but I also sleep very late at night. I actually also got a COVID test done on me where they jabbed some shit up my nose, and when that week of me feeling like ass is over I get COVID for a few days and since then can't breathe well through my nose or smell jfl.
Anyways, it's been a few years since then and I think I somehow managed to get really fucked up. Emotional blunting, loss of motivation, loss of inhibition, just want to stay at home all day doing nothing and browsing the internet. I still have the ADHD shit, including tics and stimming - that's likely neurological/biochemical, won't go away. Anyway, I go to a psychiatrist because I am like "what the fuck, not only are my original issues still there but it's getting worse??" and long story short I wasn't taken seriously but was put on SSRIs. I noticed no difference, though people around me said I was less irritable. I stopped it after a month because of this and because getting refills was a pain in the ass as I was switching back and forth between countries. Months later, I took concerta and, again, nothing happened. People said it made me more irritable, if anything.
I've also taken some other shit like mirtazapine, argomelanin, modafinil, etc. with no effects - though a lot of these need 30 years to "properly kick in," whatever that means. I've no clue what's going on or what to do, but I do know I am being played.
Thanks
yeah a lot of these supposedly need “time to kick in” but even one dose can change your brain. The fact about being less irritable is also interesting lol. Manufactured acceptance. People think SSRIs are a cure all but it does more damage than good esp when taken for a long time.Meds should be instantly working tbh why did they make up this BS about meds having to take months and years to work that just sounds like scam BS.
Emotional blunting, loss of motivation and loss of inhibition are actually side effects I got from SSRIs though how did it come for you? Did you just fall into depression or something?
my bro shat on 100years of jew"science" and wrote a whole fucking dissertation
based asf bro
based asf bro
Thanks mang
There’s so much more to say but that’s for another thread I will have to write that out
Yeah, it was depression and then I just kind of lost interest in life. Even if I don't feel sad or like ass anymore rn (or, at least, not as much), I still don't give much of a crap about anything anymore. Like I don't have the patience for it. These are side effects from SSRIs, though I got them long before taking them. I'm not sure what it means.Thanks
Meds should be instantly working tbh why did they make up this BS about meds having to take months and years to work that just sounds like scam BS.
Emotional blunting, loss of motivation and loss of inhibition are actually side effects I got from SSRIs though how did it come for you? Did you just fall into depression or something?
how are people getting parasites? just dont eat raw food, and lake water
High IQ, we need a high iq threads section
Thanks mang I would rewrite a few bits on this but I will probably make a part 2 with a lot more info I will @ you if you’re interested
yes please do
I wanted to dump this here, about addiction being often related to the circumstances of the person being shit, not the drugs themselves. Giving mentally ill people drugs is like giving someone trapped in a war zone skittles to cope. Of course they will compulsively eat skittles to calm down, they are trapped in a war zone. This does not imply skittles are addictive.
Most drug users are highly functional and never end up in rehab. This skews the perception of what a drug user looks like + lookism makes people think drug users are all toothless crackheads.
mega.nz
www.cnbc.com
Drugs are also not a leading cause of homelessness:
Most homeless also do not take drugs or are unemployed:
www.addictionhelp.com
invisiblepeople.tv
beebetter.bombas.com
It is also worth nothing that hard drugs like heroin and cocaine were only outlawed in the US in the 1940s, yet did not cause social issues at that time. Only in already disadvantaged populations was drug use a problem, and it was never solely because of drugs. In the book I linked in the mega.nz file, the researcher points out that most drug addicts of the small subgroup that end up in rehab repeatedly, have multiple mental or physical health conditions on top of the drug abuse.
So causation can not be established between drugs, homelessness and dysfunction. The dysfunction may as well lead to the drug abuse and so on.
Another classic example he gives is that most heroin addicted soldiers that returned from the Vietnam war quit on their own. Within 20 years or so, 80% of them quit without needing intervention. This again challenges the addiction model and points to circumstances and social support acting as a stabilizing factor in peoples lives. In the same vein, he points to research that shows that drug abuse goes down when people are married and so on.
The medical and mental health industry would have you believe the opposite though. They want you to believe in drugs being this boogieman, while ignoring the overall conditions that cause the drug abuse in the first place (dysfunctional families, lack of affordable housing). As you say, many drug users are turned into addicts through the mental health industry.
I heard in america that a lot of drug users start on legal meds like oxytocin and then cant afford them anymore and switch to illegal drugs. Again, its not about the drugs being addictive necessarily, its that they give already damaged people with physical and mental issues drugs, thus giving them a potent cope for their problems, which the mental health field cant and will not solve.
Let us also not forget that it is the government itself which is involved in drug smuggling operations, like poppy farming in Afghanistan under US occupation. Poppy is a plant which is used in the production of opioids. Afghanistan is the worlds third biggest source of illegal opiates. Poppy production doubled under US occupation, after the Taliban tried banning it in the late 1990s.
en.wikipedia.org
Most drug users are highly functional and never end up in rehab. This skews the perception of what a drug user looks like + lookism makes people think drug users are all toothless crackheads.
1.08 MB file on MEGA
Survey depicts a day in a drug user's life, and it's pretty normal
People who reported using illicit drugs regularly maintain pretty unremarkable routines, with the exception of using at work.
Drugs are also not a leading cause of homelessness:
Most homeless also do not take drugs or are unemployed:
Addiction & Homelessness - Statistics by Age, Race and Gender
The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SMAHA) estimates that roughly 38% of the homeless suffers from an alcohol dependency while 26% abuse drugs.
www.addictionhelp.com
Working Homeless: More Than Half Of Unhoused People Have Jobs
The term "working homeless" has existed for quite some time. It's a known fact that many unhoused people are employed. But how many?
invisiblepeople.tv
Most homeless Americans have a job—often more than one.
Homelessness is not always what we think. But how we think about it can make a big difference. See the full picture at BeeBetter.com
beebetter.bombas.com
It is also worth nothing that hard drugs like heroin and cocaine were only outlawed in the US in the 1940s, yet did not cause social issues at that time. Only in already disadvantaged populations was drug use a problem, and it was never solely because of drugs. In the book I linked in the mega.nz file, the researcher points out that most drug addicts of the small subgroup that end up in rehab repeatedly, have multiple mental or physical health conditions on top of the drug abuse.
So causation can not be established between drugs, homelessness and dysfunction. The dysfunction may as well lead to the drug abuse and so on.
Another classic example he gives is that most heroin addicted soldiers that returned from the Vietnam war quit on their own. Within 20 years or so, 80% of them quit without needing intervention. This again challenges the addiction model and points to circumstances and social support acting as a stabilizing factor in peoples lives. In the same vein, he points to research that shows that drug abuse goes down when people are married and so on.
The medical and mental health industry would have you believe the opposite though. They want you to believe in drugs being this boogieman, while ignoring the overall conditions that cause the drug abuse in the first place (dysfunctional families, lack of affordable housing). As you say, many drug users are turned into addicts through the mental health industry.
I heard in america that a lot of drug users start on legal meds like oxytocin and then cant afford them anymore and switch to illegal drugs. Again, its not about the drugs being addictive necessarily, its that they give already damaged people with physical and mental issues drugs, thus giving them a potent cope for their problems, which the mental health field cant and will not solve.
Let us also not forget that it is the government itself which is involved in drug smuggling operations, like poppy farming in Afghanistan under US occupation. Poppy is a plant which is used in the production of opioids. Afghanistan is the worlds third biggest source of illegal opiates. Poppy production doubled under US occupation, after the Taliban tried banning it in the late 1990s.
Opium production in Afghanistan - Wikipedia
It’s not that drugs are bad per se it’s the fact that the mental health industry shills shit tier drugs like SSRIs and antipsychotics and what not. If they’re gonna shill drugs at least make it good drugs that don’t disable peopleI wanted to dump this here, about addiction being often related to the circumstances of the person being shit, not the drugs themselves. Giving mentally ill people drugs is like giving someone trapped in a war zone skittles to cope. Of course they will compulsively eat skittles to calm down, they are trapped in a war zone. This does not imply skittles are addictive.
Most drug users are highly functional and never end up in rehab. This skews the perception of what a drug user looks like + lookism makes people think drug users are all toothless crackheads.
1.08 MB file on MEGA
Survey depicts a day in a drug user's life, and it's pretty normal
People who reported using illicit drugs regularly maintain pretty unremarkable routines, with the exception of using at work.
Drugs are also not a leading cause of homelessness:
Most homeless also do not take drugs or are unemployed:
Addiction & Homelessness - Statistics by Age, Race and Gender
The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SMAHA) estimates that roughly 38% of the homeless suffers from an alcohol dependency while 26% abuse drugs.
Working Homeless: More Than Half Of Unhoused People Have Jobs
The term "working homeless" has existed for quite some time. It's a known fact that many unhoused people are employed. But how many?
Most homeless Americans have a job—often more than one.
Homelessness is not always what we think. But how we think about it can make a big difference. See the full picture at BeeBetter.com
It is also worth nothing that hard drugs like heroin and cocaine were only outlawed in the US in the 1940s, yet did not cause social issues at that time. Only in already disadvantaged populations was drug use a problem, and it was never solely because of drugs. In the book I linked in the mega.nz file, the researcher points out that most drug addicts of the small subgroup that end up in rehab repeatedly, have multiple mental or physical health conditions on top of the drug abuse.
So causation can not be established between drugs, homelessness and dysfunction. The dysfunction may as well lead to the drug abuse and so on.
Another classic example he gives is that most heroin addicted soldiers that returned from the Vietnam war quit on their own. Within 20 years or so, 80% of them quit without needing intervention. This again challenges the addiction model and points to circumstances and social support acting as a stabilizing factor in peoples lives. In the same vein, he points to research that shows that drug abuse goes down when people are married and so on.
The medical and mental health industry would have you believe the opposite though. They want you to believe in drugs being this boogieman, while ignoring the overall conditions that cause the drug abuse in the first place (dysfunctional families, lack of affordable housing). As you say, many drug users are turned into addicts through the mental health industry.
I heard in america that a lot of drug users start on legal meds like oxytocin and then cant afford them anymore and switch to illegal drugs. Again, its not about the drugs being addictive necessarily, its that they give already damaged people with physical and mental issues drugs, thus giving them a potent cope for their problems, which the mental health field cant and will not solve.
Let us also not forget that it is the government itself which is involved in drug smuggling operations, like poppy farming in Afghanistan under US occupation. Poppy is a plant which is used in the production of opioids. Afghanistan is the worlds third biggest source of illegal opiates. Poppy production doubled under US occupation, after the Taliban tried banning it in the late 1990s.
Opium production in Afghanistan - Wikipedia
Apparently drugs are bad but when it comes to SSRIs and antipsychotics everything is suddenly fine jfl. I think you’ll find the book “Prozac: panacea or Pandora” interesting I think it talks about how clinical trials for these psych drugs were frauded and case studies of these SSRI users etc.
High effort read most of it.
I still don’t know how to cope with my anxiety, but this part caught my attention.
I still don’t know how to cope with my anxiety, but this part caught my attention.
I didn’t know Benadryl was pro-dopamine, I’ll try it next if my symptoms keep getting worse.
Mods add this to must-read please. @Fat Link @proudweeb
damn
one of the most profound threads i have ever read
one of the most profound threads i have ever read
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Jew pills mess up your penis
Based and blackpilled, if someone trusts psychology and psychiatry it's either a foid or a faggot
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