@based_meme See, this guy believes that Marxist-Rodgerism is "scientific" and so dissidence should be disallowed on pain of death. How do you prevent this kind of reasoning once you grant that knowledge of truth can be had?
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Are you a pacifist? Is murder wrong? Theft? Fraud? Should laws be enforced? Do you believe in speed limits on roads?
The Op question is perfectly neutral: "Do you support Marxism-Rodgerism? --> Yes/No/Undecided"
I did not include a definition because precisely, it would have been biased to do so (any "definition" is biased). I just let people inquire by themselves about MR before expressing their opinions.
It was so neutral that, at first, @Caesercel thought I supported MR
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@based_meme Here we go again. "Science" justifies Marxism-Rodgerism ...
Once you maintain that it is possible to have knowledge of the truth, it is impossible not to justify mass murder in support of an ideology that purports to be based on them.
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Just convinced a No voter to change to Yes. The results truly are telling.
You created a thread at the same time calling it a ridiculous cope. They appeared next to each other, and that thread is one of the recommended "Similar Threads" at the bottom of this post. Try harder.
Science also justifies not giving alcohol to babies. @based_meme
Change your vote to Yes to spite him for being rude
Please, both of you, you are fighting like some kids, quit it
@Sans @Lv99_BixNood Please vote
See how desperate you are now? You obviously do not believe in Marxist-Rodgerism. You have just invested your ego in it. Like Stalin did with Marxism-Leninism probably.
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This is key, because they thought wrong. Their belief wasn't justified at the time, since there was no observable/empirical evidence (which you need for a belief to be justified), and they didn't know that it was true at the time - they just believed it was true. You could phrase it as, "they had faith in communism." They were ideologues, not philosophers and scientists.
David Hume had something to say about how wrong this is.
See immediately above, plus their beliefs weren't justified at the time. Looking back at history, we know now from the data that the belief that communism "is true" (meaning that it is correct) is not justified. In other words, modern/current day communists are retarded.
Which part? Irrelevant anyway, since Kant was well before Wigner's time, and he wasn't a mathematician. Said differently, Wigner's understanding of reality was a much closer approximation to the truth of reality than Kant's was.
Read the essay The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences for your answer to that question.
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What's next, you're going to tell me to just be myself and wait for the universe to put the right woman in front of me? Any other sappy bluepills you want to pull out of your arse? Wait, are you going to tell me you were pretending to be retarded now?
You didn't even put an objectively agreed upon definition in the OP, you made the poll public, and you tried stopping people from changing their vote, all while an anti thread by you was in the similar threads tab.
When people tagged me in, I didn't even want to respond and I made it clear. The confusion you sowed forced my hand.
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He's the picture perfect example here of what I was describing earlier about misunderstanding/misusing ideas and tools. He takes empirically verifiable facts about the reality of sexual selection and male-female dynamics (black pill science), and erroneously extrapolates (using unknown leaps of logic) to whatever political nonsense he's spouting here and elsewhere.
Bro, how hard is enforced monogamy to understand?
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@based_meme See, now you have a debate with him.
This is because you have opened the door so wide that it is impossible to close it when it should be.
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That's not what we're talking about here. We're not talking about the difficulty of understanding that concept. We're talking about how ideas like "enforced monogamy" are the result of misunderstanding/misusing - misusing in this case - ideas, specifically the black pill backed by science.
You're taking truths about the world and applying philosophies (not just any philosophy, but one that has evidence of its ineffectiveness) to it. The end result are memes like "Marxist-Rodgerism" (JFL) and fantasy land ideas like "enforced monogamy" (taken to mean state-mandated wives and girlfriends).
K9 is arguing that what you're doing - extrapolating from science and applying your political beliefs to them - is the same thing that Leninist-Stalinists did.
Nietzsche was right about people like you
@advik97 Back me up bhai and vote yes
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What did he say about "people like me?" You present yourself like you have a firm grasp on reality, the way the world works, and on people. What are "people like me" like?
Go on, enlighten us.
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Populism doesn't make your idea correct.
Could you please elaborate on what you think Hume said about this?
Ok, but, as usual, who decides what is justified and what isn't? That has always been the flaw in the JTB idea.
Instead of having to say vague things like "JTBs have to be validated by the scientific community" (and then have Fauci pop up and spew self-interested lies all over the place), I prefer to say that I trust Quantum Mechanics, because I trust Niels Bohr and Paul Dirac (plus a long list of other guys I could name if I had the space). Naming a group of people and saying "I trust them" is much clearer and operationally realistic than using abstractions like "the scientific community" or "the scientific consensus" which, like so many other abstractions like "the State" or "the will of the people", can be abused and have been recently.
This book is Truthist Gnostic masturbative copium.
But it works. That is the problem ....
@based_meme See what is happening here?
Countless people who supported Gnostic Truthism like you do were sent to Gulags (or worse) when they were caught up to by the populist wave they had themselves helped to create.
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Not believing that truth is perfectly knowable wouldn't change anything. People want to fulfill Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Society is 9 meals away from revolution.
I'm not the one who started a poll.
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The is-ought problem: deriving normative and prescriptive statements, like moral values and moral decisions you should make, from descriptive statements, like facts about the natural world.
Not this shit again. Empirical facts about the world don't need an authority stamp and approval. I agree that there's basically a "ministry of science" (ala 1984) with the current scientific status quo, but you know that this is the politicization of science and does not (intrinsically) negatively affect the method of science as a means to get closer to truth.
It's an essay, not a book. If you care about the answer to the question you asked, you'll make the effort and read it. Please don't act like a retard.
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But you are trying to feed it the answers you prefer. You're actively playing a part in this by campaigning the "yes" vote by spamming the thread with user tags.
Yes.
@TheProphetMuscle @MarquisDeSade Seeing how so many people are asking for a definition of Marxism Rodgerism, I think @Communcel 's thread should be moved to the Must Read Section
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[From r/incels] A Marxist Critique of the Sexual Economy
It may seem difficult to understand the realities of the blackpill. It may be hard to come to terms with how - and why - the world functions as it does. And even when you do, it is even harder to understand where to go next. But there is one set of techniques which shines a clear light on the...
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If the text colour on Communcel 's thread is off putting, then my thread can be used instead@TheProphetMuscle @MarquisDeSade Seeing how so many people are asking for a definition of Marxism Rodgerism, I think @Communcel 's thread should be moved to the Must Read Section
[From r/incels] A Marxist Critique of the Sexual Economy
It may seem difficult to understand the realities of the blackpill. It may be hard to come to terms with how - and why - the world functions as it does. And even when you do, it is even harder to understand where to go next. But there is one set of techniques which shines a clear light on the...
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He still hasn't explained himself, and I'm starting to doubt if he will bother. You could be right and this would be history repeating itself.
This is what happens when you have people who try to authoritatively implement ideas in practice than their wisdom and intelligence level should ever warrant.
Ooga booga tribe leader take big brain thing and gib all gud stuff.
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Literally just read all the threads I've posted about Marxism Rodgerism and Inceldia / Incelistan
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I'M TAKING ABOUT EXPLAINING YOUR COMMENT ON HOW NIETZSCHE WAS RIGHT ABOUT "PEOPLE LIKE ME," NOT YOUR POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY.
STOP BEING A PASSIVE CHICKEN SHIT AND EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEANT.
@TheProphetMuscle @MarquisDeSade Seeing how so many people are asking for a definition of Marxism Rodgerism, I think @Communcel 's thread should be moved to the Must Read Section
[From r/incels] A Marxist Critique of the Sexual Economy
It may seem difficult to understand the realities of the blackpill. It may be hard to come to terms with how - and why - the world functions as it does. And even when you do, it is even harder to understand where to go next. But there is one set of techniques which shines a clear light on the...
@Caesarcel People in multiple threads are asking me what the definition of Marxism Rodgerism is. Please move the founding document to the Must Read SectionIf the text colour on Communcel 's thread is off putting, then my thread can be used instead
Marxism-Rodgerism. Opinions?
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@Caesercel Please move Marxist Rodgerist manifesto to Must Read section
@TheProphetMuscle @MarquisDeSade Seeing how so many people are asking for a definition of Marxism Rodgerism, I think @Communcel 's thread should be moved to the Must Read Section
[From r/incels] A Marxist Critique of the Sexual Economy
It may seem difficult to understand the realities of the blackpill. It may be hard to come to terms with how - and why - the world functions as it does. And even when you do, it is even harder to understand where to go next. But there is one set of techniques which shines a clear light on the...
If the text colour on Communcel 's thread is off putting, then my thread can be used instead
Marxism-Rodgerism. Opinions?
It may seem difficult to understand the realities of the blackpill. It may be hard to come to terms with how - and why - the world functions as it does. And even when you do, it is even harder to understand where to go next. But there is one set of techniques which shines a clear light on the...
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@Caesercel Don't. This drivel is political propaganda. In fact, that section needs a clean up. There's some seriously trash tier threads in there that have no business being in that section.
I don't support Marxism of any kind because Marxism inherently supports feminism.
How is locking women inside and government assigned wives feminism?
I dislike communism as a whole. Even the idea of a state handed girlfriend will not make it feaseable for me. The very notion that I will held back on the grounds that someone else won't have it as good as me is retarded. I'm not a phioantropist in fact I believe nobody can be one.
I dunno. I just hate the idea of Marxism and I don't think we should practice anything under the same name.
That's not Marxism and has never been Marxism. Marxism requires you to believe yourself a wronged being, someone entitled (without a trace of irony) to wealth.
So you just don't like the label? The name? Are you a NPC?
Nigga I AM wronged by a lack of pussy, and I AM entitled to pussy
Marxism led to feminism. We should give him no credit.
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