Experiment POLL: Who supports Marxism-Rodgerism?

[K9Otaku]

Marxism Rodgerism is about getting the good things in life RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for heaven or being remembered in history books

It is literally the opposite of credit masturbation. It is taking what we need instead of castrating ourselves.

The following words are put in to Jesus' mouth in the gospels: "my kingdom is not of this world". This is an honest way to say: "I am giving you a cope. Enjoy it but don't expect anything concrete before you die"

Marxists are saying "I will bring paradise down on earth right here, right now". This is a dishonest and dangerous cope. When people try to actually do it in practice, it ends in disaster.

 

[mlcurrycel]

The following words are put in to Jesus' mouth in the gospels: "my kingdom is not of this world". This is an honest way to say: "I am giving you a cope. Enjoy it but don't expect anything concrete before you die"

Marxists are saying "I will bring paradise down on earth right here, right now". This is a dishonest and dangerous cope. When people try to actually do it in practice, it ends in disaster.

Nigga, I don't even know if I'm debating Marxism or if I'm debating Rodgerism with you

1. Get land
2. Get money
3. Get women
4. Divide women
5. Shoot anyone who tries to take your women
6. Arrest women who cheat

It's that simple, I don't know what you're arguing about

 

[K9Otaku]

Nigga, I don't even know if I'm debating Marxism or if I'm debating Rodgerism with you

Is your thing called "Marxism-Rodgerism" or "Rodgerism". Make up your mind.

1. Get land
2. Get money
3. Get women
4. Divide women
5. Shoot anyone who tries to take your women
6. Arrest women who cheat

It's that simple, I don't know what you're arguing about

None of these things are simple. Indeed, all of them are horrendously complicated and difficult. But even before doing any of this, you have to do something even more complicated: make incels actually cooperate on real-life tasks and accept your authority. Have you ever noticed how no one trusts anyone else in the incel community? How are you going to overcome that? Making simpletons click "yes" on a poll is one thing. Leading them irl is entirely another.

One thing you have to realize about your previous incarnation (a.k.a Stalin) is that he had foids on his side. Marxism benefited hugely from foid support to establish itself and grow. How are you going to succeed without that?

 

[mlcurrycel]

Is your thing called "Marxism-Rodgerism" or "Rodgerism". Make up your mind.


None of these things are simple. Indeed, all of them are horrendously complicated and difficult. But even before doing any of this, you have to do something even more complicated: make incels actually cooperate on real-life tasks and accept your authority. Have you ever noticed how no one trusts anyone else in the incel community? How are you going to overcome that? Making simpletons click "yes" on a poll is one thing. Leading them irl is entirely another.

One thing you have to realize about your previous incarnation (a.k.a Stalin) is that he had foids on his side. Marxism benefited hugely from foid support to establish itself and grow. How are you going to succeed without that?

I've been refining these ideas for years.

It can work because it's scalable with little upfront investment required

It doesn't require millions of incels to succeed. It doesn't require overthrowing governments or organising terrorist cells.

A single guy can move to the third world, moneymaxx and betabuxx. Men do it all the time, just look at all the white men who move to Thailand, Phillipines, etc. All the JBW maxxers. Curries do Just Be Curry in Nepal.

If the guy sticks with traditional and religious communities, he can even minimise his chances of being cuckolded and divorce raped.

"SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS MEN SHOULD BETABU--" Stop.

Those single guys I mentioned? They're not fixing inceldom. Their exporting the problems of hypergamy from their native country to their host country by raising standards. Every JBWmaxxer who gets laid creates another ethniccel. If ethnics move to Poland or something, then vice versa.

The mission is to end hypergamy. That requires ending unrestricted mate selection by females.

We have to isolate some women from broader society and control their mate choice. The more incels work together, the closer we can live near civilization while still policing women's actions. But even just a few can allow us to be farmers

There's very little difference in goals between, say, me and the Mormon extremists who live in polygamist compounds. I just want monogamist compounds instead.

I'm repeating the same thing again and again to you but you're refusing to acknowledge it because the word Marxism and the banner with Stalin and Mao triggers you. The only thing you've done is shown how many people agree with me. I genuinely thought I was shouting in the wind.

 

[genma]

@genma Vote Yes if you like this:

In my view, you're still thinking too inside the box. You're thinking about taking existing women and putting them under legal constraints, or making them wear VR or whatever. Or you're thinking about changing yourself (you mentioned HGH) to fit the preferences of existing women.

See, existing women, and this entire game you're trying to play are the products of natural selection. You shouldn't even be trying to play that game anymore, because nature will always be fighting you. You shouldn't be thinking about chaining up existing women or any kind of force. You should be thinking about replacing them.

If you think outside the box, you would be thinking about genetic engineering. Create a creature with the body of a human female, and the brain of a dog. Why a dog? Because if you've ever had a pet dog, you know that they truly, truly love you. Not even chad gets actual love from modern women. Desire maybe, but not really love.

I've thought about writing a book set in an advanced future culture arranged along these lines. All citizens are male. Most reproduction is by cloning - what's normal is for each person (who wants one) to get one clone, just to have someone to pass on their estate to. They can make genetic changes to the clone when it's an embryo, but nobody bothers with the traits that you're so highly focused on (like height) because they aren't trying to impress women.

In order to keep the population from collapsing, the government awards the right to have additional children, and some of those are created through genetic crosses just to keep the diversity up. Being awarded an extra child would be seen as a great honor, because so few would get the opportunity. They'd take very good care of their children.

Women in this world are an accessory, or maybe a better word is a companion. Anyway, it's treated like how people in our world treat pets. They are genetically engineered so that they grow up fast, but they don't live very long. They have sufficient IQ so that they don't get in your way. And they're designed to truly love you if you treat them well (and there are harsh legal penalties if you neglect or abuse them - ironically making this society more moral than our current society)

They're all grown in labs, just like how your clone is made. The DNA sequences are well understood and you just order whatever physical characteristics you prefer. Everyone gets pretty much the same temperament and personality - generally nice, content, and loving.

They have a limited vocabulary, but that's fine, you're not expecting them to be brain surgeons. You've heard stories about how, centuries ago, there were people who would screech loudly and demand that men and women are absolutely identical and that the only proper relationship was "equality" - but that society collapsed so, turns out that wasn't a great idea.

 

[mlcurrycel]

In my view, you're still thinking too inside the box. You're thinking about taking existing women and putting them under legal constraints, or making them wear VR or whatever. Or you're thinking about changing yourself (you mentioned HGH) to fit the preferences of existing women.

See, existing women, and this entire game you're trying to play are the products of natural selection. You shouldn't even be trying to play that game anymore, because nature will always be fighting you. You shouldn't be thinking about chaining up existing women or any kind of force. You should be thinking about replacing them.

If you think outside the box, you would be thinking about genetic engineering. Create a creature with the body of a human female, and the brain of a dog. Why a dog? Because if you've ever had a pet dog, you know that they truly, truly love you. Not even chad gets actual love from modern women. Desire maybe, but not really love.

I've thought about writing a book set in an advanced future culture arranged along these lines. All citizens are male. Most reproduction is by cloning - what's normal is for each person (who wants one) to get one clone, just to have someone to pass on their estate to. They can make genetic changes to the clone when it's an embryo, but nobody bothers with the traits that you're so highly focused on (like height) because they aren't trying to impress women.

In order to keep the population from collapsing, the government awards the right to have additional children, and some of those are created through genetic crosses just to keep the diversity up. Being awarded an extra child would be seen as a great honor, because so few would get the opportunity. They'd take very good care of their children.

Women in this world are an accessory, or maybe a better word is a companion. Anyway, it's treated like how people in our world treat pets. They are genetically engineered so that they grow up fast, but they don't live very long. They have sufficient IQ so that they don't get in your way. And they're designed to truly love you if you treat them well (and there are harsh legal penalties if you neglect or abuse them - ironically making this society more moral than our current society)

They're all grown in labs, just like how your clone is made. The DNA sequences are well understood and you just order whatever physical characteristics you prefer. Everyone gets pretty much the same temperament and personality - generally nice, content, and loving.

They have a limited vocabulary, but that's fine, you're not expecting them to be brain surgeons. You've heard stories about how, centuries ago, there were people who would screech loudly and demand that men and women are absolutely identical and that the only proper relationship was "equality" - but that society collapsed so, turns out that wasn't a great idea.

Yeah, artifical wombs will free us from the economic drain of policing women
@NoCopeNoHope has also talked about replacing conventional women, I think he prefers robotic replacements
I like dogs and I like the idea of cross species editing to make the perfect companion
Neither America or China will give common men access to genetic engineering. The rich in both countries will use it to make super-human descendants to rule over the poor.
Neither America or China will give common men access to artificial wombs. America will completely ban it, China may use it to make a secret clone army of Incel soldiers.

The only hope for men is creating their own Androcentric society where scientific research into such things is funded and protected, and where the products of science are mass produced to equally share the fruit from the Tree of Life

 

[Michael15651]

I win. You want feminism and hypergamy so you can keep escortcelling 10/10 women.

@Michael15651 What do you think about K9Otaku?

To each their own.

I personally don’t find brown women that attractive, and if I’m paying for an escort, I’d want it to be up to par with my standards.

 

[Sans]

@Sans What should our flag look like?

Hmm, good question. I'll get on that.

 

[mlcurrycel]

To each their own.

I personally don’t find brown women that attractive, and if I’m paying for an escort, I’d want it to be up to par with my standards.

I think K9 was bragging in that thread. Just the way he wrote. It wasn't recounting an experience. It was taunting. He followed up in that thread by talking about his rich father.

 

[PLA1092]

> nearly 1000 replies

brutal that I wasn't tagged tbh

 

[mlcurrycel]

> nearly 1000 replies


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brutal that I wasn't tagged tbh

It's basically just an autistic shit flinging contest between me and K9Otaku. If I say anything of substance, I end up copy pasting it onto one of my own threads like the Marxism Rodgerism FAQ

 

[mlcurrycel]

"Just take the whitepill bro, just don't care about being incel bro"
Bluepill thinking that I could get from my therapist.

Most of us still dream of being Chad - THAT is what keeps us miserable

First off, people vastly overestimate how wonderful it is to be Chad. This does not even need to be proven. It is built into the structure of our group. None of us is Chad. We see chads portrayed as blissful all the time. And we hang out together (echo chamber). The result is inevitable...

incels.is

First off, people vastly overestimate how wonderful it is to be Chad. This does not even need to be proven. It is built into the structure of our group. None of us is Chad. We see chads portrayed as blissful all the time. And we hang out together (echo chamber). The result is inevitable.

Second, although people generally deny it, a majority of Incels still somehow dream that a miracle could turn them into Chads. This is the root of the old PUAmaxxing cope and all its derivatives, heightmaxxing, surgerymaxxing, gymmaxxing, etc. The usual denial strategy about all this is that we do not do it to be Chad but just to be accepted into society better. Yeah right.

Third, we transform our Chad-aspiration that does not want to die into a "I am superior to all normalfags" cope. At this point, it generally becomes unconscious. We still burn with the desire to be Chad and yet we are absolutely convinced that we are totally divorced from the normie mindset in our splendid isolation and self-sufficiency.

This third level of cope appears in sentences like "It is unfair that Chad gets all the pussy for free, while I have to pay for a hooker". No, it is not unfair. It is just nature. For all mammals it is like that. The alpha gets all the pussy while others get nothing. One may object that nature is "unfair". But if you push the meaning of this word that far, it stops making sense. Against whom are you rebelling? God? Most of us do not believe anyway ...

The absurdity of our rebellion against a non-existing God reveals that we are stuck. We can't let go of our desire to be Chad and yet we have fully realized that it will never happen. Result: never-ending misery.

This misery then manifests in two possible ways:

• Suffer-in-silence type: LDAR, make a few threads on .is, then disappear or rope, like the late GeneticTrashLoser
• Turn your anger towards other Incels and become an obnoxious Ersatz Chad on this forum or elsewhere.

This last cope is the most ridiculous type that our subhuman-kind has come up with. We are truly in Hell when we reach that stage. We are at the bottom of the pile and yet we are still finding a way to prey on each other. For more on this see this thread:

Ersatz Chads - The plague of this forum and of Inceldom in general

We have all been bullied, generally by Chad Now, on this forum and elsewhere, we have to endure being bullied by Ersatz Chads. Some of us, who cannot be Chads irl any more than the rest of us, still crave to be Chads. They take advantage of the vulnerable state most of us are in to play Chads...

incels.is

It is particularly interesting in the responses. A number of Ersatz Chads had taken the bait and revealed themselves in all their pathetic glory.

The question now is: how do we move past all this? How do we truly lay our Chadness desire to rest for good? How do we emerge on the other side?

@Iamnothere000 @Aadi @BPJ @HotPotCel @kt0_0 @Emba @IslaVista2014 @your personality @kampman @Copexodius Maximus @ldar_ricecel @SlayerSlayer @slimshady @FIVETHREEBALDCEL @Nirvanaal @yikerinos @Fight_back @achref @Valiant Virgin @Clarity1 @calimero @TaciturnCel @Angry_runt @Mountainbikecel @Pareg @TheReaper @BigMorons @Dr. Dicklet @i Miss My Innocence @SafeAffect

 

[Michael15651]

I think K9 was bragging in that thread. Just the way he wrote. It wasn't recounting an experience. It was taunting. He followed up in that thread by talking about his rich father.

Well he’s not an incel so not sure why he hasn’t been banned yet

 

[mlcurrycel]

@K9Otaku You were already BTFO'd years ago by users on this website

Exactly. It’s just nature bro! Rape is also just nature, and so much more. Yet we try to correct these unfair mistakes all the time. But when it comes to relationships and males getting fucked over for no fault of their own except being born ugly, then all of a sudden “well its the straw you drew”. In fact, the government takes money from males through taxes to give services to females for shit they willingly chose to do, like get knocked up by Chad.

appeals to nature are retarded especially when they come from a supposedly "genetically inferior" being.(the weak won't last a day in a natural environment)
if we restored "natural order" more than 50% of the world population would die.
Is this what you're advocating for?
the only natural dynamic that you keep mentioning and that we should accept, according to you, is "alpha fux beta bux" but why didn't you mention that rape was the actual reproductive strategy of those betas?
are you pro-rape because is natural?
no you aren't, you just want betas to stfu and die peacefully like buddhist monks.(still wondering what's your agenda)

regarding the chad-wannabes thing is like your brain couldn't process that a combination of
1) genetic factors
2) environment
3)sexual frustration
can make men aggressive.
you don't know shit about these people existence but you decided to assume that they're aggressive becasue the want to "LARP as Chads" but I just showed you that their agressivness could be caused by other factors.
if you don't understand people ask them to explain their behaviors instead of assuming the reason why they're acting in a certain way.

Cope.


We objectively undersrand and accept more of reality than the normies. That's not necessarily superiority, since it's not like the knowledge gets us anywhere (it just helps prevent unsavory behaviors such as simping). But it is accuracy.


The meaning of the word "unfair" when I look it up is simply something not based on equality or justice. Nature obviously isn't equal, nor is it based on any personal merit. That would rule it as "unfair." Your mistake is assuming that simply because someone points something out as unfair that there's some expectation of change or appeal to a higher power. No, it's just a statement of fact, in opposition to the blue pill narrative that dating is about "personality bro" and you only do poorly at it if you have some moral failing like misogyny or whatever.

Agreed on the rest. Especially the obnoxious Ersatz Chads (Nazicels seriously STFU, it's getting old).

Of course you have a right to do that but it's only natural that others are going to pushback in less than ideal ways if they strongly disagree with you. Imo that doesn't make them ersatz chads. It just makes them unwilling to discuss or entertain certain different ways of looking at things. A lot of that is because these different ways of looking at things have been used in the past to absolve women of how they treat low SMV males and try to shift the focus from blaming society and seriously examining systematic issues facing low SMV males to making it more personal and leading to excessive self loathing. The latter is very easy for others here to fall back into particularly when they are told everywhere else that the struggles they face are their fault and not anyone else's in any measurable way and they feel pressured to giving into this.

It's like many other parts of male oriented communities. There are always newcomers coming in that need to vent so it seems like it's the same people venting again and again. Really thought they just have things they want to get off their back. After that tbh they usually settle down to posting less after they've expressed most of what's bugging them and only post when they have something really important they want to discuss.

There's some signs of that for people that have gotten the major stuff off their mind and started thinking of other ways to approach the problem of dealing with inceldom. There are many threads that have nothing to do with women but are more about politics and the trajectory of society here and discussing actionable plans people here have for the future. Also the idea of how incels can better navigate society knowing the limited options they have.

tbh maybe a lot more activity could be had in this area if there was a more private sub forum only accessible to members so that people here could more freely express themselves without concern of outsiders misrepresenting them or critiquing them before any suggestions discussed/ideas have even gotten a chance to "get off the ground".

Internet personas are pretty exaggerated @JosefMengelecel . How people behave here isn't a completely accurate representation of how they behave IRL. With social media blurring the lines between the online and physical world and real world consequences being assigned to things that happen online this is easy to forget.

You have the option of ignoring them though. Also while true that it's up to the individual how they act there's often the conclusion then pushed that issues incels are facing are a result of their personal failings and not systematic problems and a refusal to admit any of that could also be due to how women treat nonchad men. Can there be problems with the individual? Yeah. But does it then follow how the issues raised by people here about the current state of the world don't have any merit? I don't believe that's true.

Too often tbh the excess focus on personal responsibility and individual flaws is used to detract from discussion of systematic issues (and inceldom is a systematic issue seeing how many men are suffering through it and have independently come to similar conclusions as to why they are suffering @-BrettyBoy-). That might be what a lot of people are sensing when you focus on the individual and tell them not to seek redress and are reacting harshly to it.

Venting anger is necessary. Unlike manosphere spaces where it's looked down on as a temporary anger phase you need to move past incel spaces don't virtue signal about how anger against women is bad and recognize that there are always things bugging low SMV males that they need to get off their chest without being mocked for being immature or lectured down to like everywhere else. That's part of the appeal of these places.

@suigin appeared to have been on board at first but he now views this project with more suspicion.

Truth, I wouldn’t give a fuck about being chad if I could have sex and relationships with foids

Shit thread

Kys

 

[mlcurrycel]

Well he’s not an incel so not sure why he hasn’t been banned yet

He said he's had paid sex with Staceys of multiple races.
I think he should be banned for bragging for the tone he used. "oh she was so good, ohh I cucked her sugar daddy by fucking her, ohh I'm so rich that I can go through hot girls like a seal in water, ohh"

He's honestly made me reconsider my opinion on whether escortcels should be allowed.

 

[Michael15651]

He said he's had paid sex with Staceys of multiple races.
I think he should be banned for bragging for the tone he used. "oh she was so good, ohh I cucked her sugar daddy by fucking her, ohh I'm so rich that I can go through hot girls like a seal in water, ohh"

He's honestly made me reconsider my opinion on whether escortcels should be allowed.

They shouldn’t. I’ve been a firm believer in that since I’ve started the site.

@Caesercel
@Dregster
@The Enforcer
@Master
@proudweeb
@PPEcel

Might wanna take a look at this guy. He’s blatantly bragging about fucking whores.

 

[Feminism Sucks!]

The idea that you can crowdfund what would be one of the greatest medical advancements of the decade is frankly, a joke. They’ve existed for over ten years with dick to show for it. It’s not their fault. They pull in like $20,000 a month. It’s a laughable pittance for the work they do.

In reality, they’re just rolling the ball until a real company takes notice and picks it up for them with real R&D money.

Still, I'm glad they exist. Maybe 10 years from now I will be able to unbreak my dick

 

[mlcurrycel]

Still, I'm glad they exist. Maybe 10 years from now I will be able to unbreak my dick

We must find a way to safely transport those foreskin scientists to Incelistan if America and Europe fall apart

 

[mlcurrycel]

They shouldn’t. I’ve been a firm believer in that since I’ve started the site.

@Caesercel
@Dregster
@The Enforcer
@Master
@proudweeb
@PPEcel

Might wanna take a look at this guy. He’s blatantly bragging about fucking whores.

Dregster said "kys" to k9 in the past, so maybe he'll be the one to pull the plug

Funny how I debated OP for 20 fucking pages but it was his bragging that sent me over the edge

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

@subhuman @LDARbeforeROPE @Mnnn @Fallenleaves @Michael15651 @My Name Jeff @LeFrenchCel @surreal @etbrute @BlackPilledNeet @ineedassistance @Grim_Reaper @AnotherInsertCel @No_Tears @Pajeetsingh @Goosecel @Pringle @kaang @Pillow City Rev @decembrist_kirillov @ezio6 @Words2_live_bye @turbocuckcel_7000 @watcher @FrothySolutions @based_meme @NirvanaFan1988

@K9Otaku supports hypergamy and opposes monogamy because he wants to continue fucking 10/10 Giga-Staceys.

Look at this bragger:



I'm not necessarily against escortcels. An example of an escortcel thread without bragging would be that of @Incel_Because_Short . But @K9Otaku is a bragger.

He's a cuck, he will kill himself like the trash he is

 

[K9Otaku]

To each their own.

I personally don’t find brown women that attractive, and if I’m paying for an escort, I’d want it to be up to par with my standards.

There are plenty of white escorts on the market. Mostly from Eastern Europe

 

[K9Otaku]

I've been refining these ideas for years.

It can work because it's scalable with little upfront investment required

It doesn't require millions of incels to succeed. It doesn't require overthrowing governments or organising terrorist cells.

A single guy can move to the third world, moneymaxx and betabuxx. Men do it all the time, just look at all the white men who move to Thailand, Phillipines, etc. All the JBW maxxers. Curries do Just Be Curry in Nepal.

If the guy sticks with traditional and religious communities, he can even minimise his chances of being cuckolded and divorce raped.

"SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS MEN SHOULD BETABU--" Stop.

Those single guys I mentioned? They're not fixing inceldom. Their exporting the problems of hypergamy from their native country to their host country by raising standards. Every JBWmaxxer who gets laid creates another ethniccel. If ethnics move to Poland or something, then vice versa.

The mission is to end hypergamy. That requires ending unrestricted mate selection by females.

We have to isolate some women from broader society and control their mate choice. The more incels work together, the closer we can live near civilization while still policing women's actions. But even just a few can allow us to be farmers

There's very little difference in goals between, say, me and the Mormon extremists who live in polygamist compounds. I just want monogamist compounds instead.

I'm repeating the same thing again and again to you but you're refusing to acknowledge it because the word Marxism and the banner with Stalin and Mao triggers you. The only thing you've done is shown how many people agree with me. I genuinely thought I was shouting in the wind.

I am totally prepared to consider your ideas, as long as you don't call them "Marxist"

If you do, you are saddling yourself with a legacy that makes you guaranteed to fail. If you free yourself from that legacy, it is another story

 

[K9Otaku]

Funny how I debated OP for 20 fucking pages but it was his bragging that sent me over the edge

Because it is envy that motivates you. Envy has always been the death of the mind, and also the main motivator of Marxists. Nothing based on envy can succeed. It is poison.

Yes, I fucked escorts. Quite a number of them. But that is something any incel can do (if he is able to get over his crippling envy and work enough). But what is more significant here is that escortcelling is possible in the world as it is. It is something that any incel can achieve within 6 months of getting a job (don't tell me you cannot save 200-400 USD or EURO within 6 months). By contrast, what you are promoting here is not possible, at least not in the short or even medium term. In the (very) long term (probably not in our lifetime) something like what you are describing might be possible (provided it is not done along Marxist principles which guarantee failure). So just cope as best you can in the meantime. This is the only thing we can realistically do.

 

[K9Otaku]

Well he’s not an incel so not sure why he hasn’t been banned yet

It is not up to you to decide what an incel is or who is one.

The mods know full well that if they get caught in the vicious circle of "purist" inceldom definitions, they will have to ban 90% of the forum.

 

[Michael15651]

Yeah because you’d be the first to go

It is not up to you to decide what an incel is or who is one.

The mods know full well that if they get caught in the vicious circle of "purist" inceldom definitions, they will have to ban 90% of the forum.

 

[K9Otaku]

Yeah because you’d be the first to go

And then it will be you, because some guy who is pissed at you will invent a way to twist the definition a bit more

 

[Michael15651]

And then it will be you, because some guy who is pissed at you will invent a way to twist the definition a bit more

I’d rather this forum be filled with 20 trucels than 1,000 fakecels like you

 

[K9Otaku]

I’d rather this forum be filled with 20 trucels than 1,000 fakecels like you

Sure, but that is not what the mods want

 

[mlcurrycel]

I am totally prepared to consider your ideas, as long as you don't call them "Marxist"

If you do, you are saddling yourself with a legacy that makes you guaranteed to fail. If you free yourself from that legacy, it is another story

NPC behaviour

Because it is envy that motivates you. Envy has always been the death of the mind, and also the main motivator of Marxists. Nothing based on envy can succeed. It is poison.

Yes, I fucked escorts. Quite a number of them. But that is something any incel can do (if he is able to get over his crippling envy and work enough). But what is more significant here is that escortcelling is possible in the world as it is. It is something that any incel can achieve within 6 months of getting a job (don't tell me you cannot save 200-400 USD or EURO within 6 months). By contrast, what you are promoting here is not possible, at least not in the short or even medium term. In the (very) long term (probably not in our lifetime) something like what you are describing might be possible (provided it is not done along Marxist principles which guarantee failure). So just cope as best you can in the meantime. This is the only thing we can realistically do.

I have tens of thousands saved up and live in Australia. I can get an escort gangbang with women of multiple races anytime I want. Stop coping. You support hypergamy. I support monogamy.

 

[mlcurrycel]

@Lonelyus

1. Get land
2. Get money
3. Get women
4. Divide women
5. Shoot anyone who tries to take our women
6. Arrest and punish women who cheat

Vote Yes if that sounds good

 

[Lonelyus]

@Lonelyus

1. Get land
2. Get money
3. Get women
4. Divide women
5. Shoot anyone who tries to take our women
6. Arrest and punish women who cheat

Vote Yes if that sounds good

Id shoot you because you took my woman fakecel

 

[mlcurrycel]

Id shoot you because you took my woman fakecel

Why would I want anyone else's woman? I want a single virgin for myself. We would all get a single virgin. Monogamy will be legally enforced.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Id shoot you because you took my woman fakecel

Read point 4 again

 

[mlcurrycel]

@PPEcel Please read the MR FAQ. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have.

The Marxism-Rodgerism FAQ

What is Marxism Rodgerism? Marxism Rodgerism is the belief that incels should create a government that takes on the responsibility of abolishing lonliness, inceldom, cheating, and paternity fraud by any means necessary, including state assigned wives. Why is it called Marxism Rodgerism? I...

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[Lonelyus]

Why would I want anyone else's woman? I want a single virgin for myself. We would all get a single virgin. Monogamy will be legally enforced.

Then why do you fap to porn if you dont want anyone elses woman, Women aleredy have multiple sex partners behind a niggas back

 

[mlcurrycel]

Then why do you fap to porn if you dont want anyone elses woman, Women aleredy have multiple sex partners behind a niggas back

How is that related to this topic?

We will find virgin women. Young. With hymens.
We will marry them.
We will lock them inside.
We will use technology to track their movements and prevent them from cheating.
We will force them to have a single sexual partner for their entire life. Their husband,

 

[Lonelyus]

How is that related to this topic?

We will find virgin women. Young. With hymens.
We will marry them.
We will lock them inside.
We will use technology to track their movements and prevent them from cheating.
We will force them to have a single sexual partner for their entire life. Their husband,

A hymen cant be fix once broken faggot

 

[mlcurrycel]

A hymen cant be fix once broken faggot

Are you trolling me? We're not going to bother with American sluts.

We will go to the third world.

We will find virgins.

Each man gets a single virgin. She stays with him, he stays with her. No swapping or sharing or cuckolding or cheating.

Monogamy.

What's the confusion?

 

[K9Otaku]

NPC behaviour

I have tens of thousands saved up and live in Australia. I can get an escort gangbang with women of multiple races anytime I want.

Do it and stop torturing yourself with envy.

Stop coping. You support hypergamy. I support monogamy.

I support men having sex. I don't support monogamy because I don't support marriage at all. In a non-agrarian society, there is no point pairing up 1 man with 1 woman. It is unnatural. My idea of a decent society is one where the only form of legal sex is prostitution. That way everything is clear and there is no "love" or "bonding" bullshit between the sexes. Everybody works, everybody pays taxes and children are raised by churches (you can call them "party cells" if you want), not parents. Parenthood is the most bullshit institution today.

 

[K9Otaku]

Monogamy.

Monogamy made sense in the Neolithic and until the industrial revolution (because of the inheritance of land). Once we have become salaried workers, marriage makes no sense.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Monogamy made sense in the Neolithic and until the industrial revolution (because of the inheritance of land). Once we have become salaried workers, marriage makes no sense.

Monogamy is the best condition to raise children in. Monogamy over three generations increases the productivity and intelligence of the third generation.

People borne from three generations of monogamy make the most scientific advancements, which leads to a more complex and diversified economy that dominates other economies and other people.

The monogamous win over the long term. Just look at all the curries and rice taking over Silicon Valley. Look at all the white Mormons taking over the CIA.

 

[mlcurrycel]

Do it and stop torturing yourself with envy.


I support men having sex. I don't support monogamy because I don't support marriage at all. In a non-agrarian society, there is no point pairing up 1 man with 1 woman. It is unnatural. My idea of a decent society is one where the only form of legal sex is prostitution. That way everything is clear and there is no "love" or "bonding" bullshit between the sexes. Everybody works, everybody pays taxes and children are raised by churches (you can call them "party cells" if you want), not parents. Parenthood is the most bullshit institution today.

Parenthood is the best way. Parents have a genetic, evolutionary, incentive to maximise the success of their children. Inside the constraints of a meritocratic society, that leads to better education. Most of a child's intelligence is determined by genetics and how they were raised before the age of five.

Yes, in a capitalist industrialised urbanised society, children do not confer an economic advantage on the parents specifically. That will lead to the downfall of currently existing industrialised society. Incelistan will avoid these mistakes.

 

[K9Otaku]

Parenthood is the best way. Parents have a genetic, evolutionary, incentive to maximise the success of their children.

Yes, but since we have retirement insurance (whether state-provided or not) parents no longer have a monetary incentive to raise their kids properly. In India, your kids are still your retirement piggy-bank. Not in the West. This is one of the main reasons why parents have become irresponsible there. I don't see any way to fix this.

 

[Lonelyus]

Are you trolling me? We're not going to bother with American sluts.

We will go to the third world.

We will find virgins.

Each man gets a single virgin. She stays with him, he stays with her. No swapping or sharing or cuckolding or cheating.

Monogamy.

What's the confusion?

Didnt read, Too long.

 

[K9Otaku]

Monogamy is the best condition to raise children in.

Until the industrial revolution, children were raised not by a monogamous couple but by the whole village, which always included many relatives and close acquaintances. That was ok

A monogamous couple is too narrow a base to provide a good education. Parental education is obsolete

 

[mlcurrycel]

Yes, but since we have retirement insurance (whether state-provided or not) parents no longer have a monetary incentive to raise their kids properly. In India, your kids are still your retirement piggy-bank. Not in the West. This is one of the main reasons why parents have become irresponsible there. I don't see any way to fix this.

Yeah, in my thread "Why every society falls to feminism", I talk about how the increasing liquidity of wealth and the advancements in property law allows people like bankers and women to live without working. This ends up applying to childless people as well. Thanks for bringing that up, I'll cross post it there.

I was thinking about how feminists took over America and trying to work backwards through history to find a cause

At first I blamed Christianity. But throughout human history, there's been multiple times that empires fell after people starting believing that men and women are equal.

1. All societies are more cynical about men than women. Male strangers are assumed to be potential rapists, etc etc.
2. A successful society starts off with discipline in both genders.
3. Success creates liquid wealth, such as gold, money, alcohol, etc.
4. Success changes society's laws and customs, so that farmland that was once considered an intrinsic part of a family can be bought and sold with contracts and cash
5. Cities start filling up with people who never met each other and are competing with each other
6. Success and wealth makes men more suspicious of each other and afraid of being backstabbed, etc.
7. During this time period, women haven't been allowed to reveal their true nature yet
8. Fathers start leaving their fortunes and inheritance to their daughters, etc
9. Daughters start getting involved in undermining society
   1. FIrst, it starts off as non-feminist, conservative, but gynocentric. Think of the ban on alcohol during the Prohibition for example
   2. Then, it becomes about women being oppressed, women being treated unfairly, etc
   3. Women want the attention of being a king or president without the hard work. Much easier to complain and ask for affirmative action
   4. The power that women hold starts snowballing until they destroy society with their neurotic and impossible demands

This is basically what Glubb talks about in "Fate of Empires". Female nature is always the same. Feminism is female nature unleashed. What allows female nature to be unleashed is increasing liquidity, urbanisation, and cynicism. Thus causing the downfall of society.

Why every society falls to feminism

I was thinking about how feminists took over America and trying to work backwards through history to find a cause At first I blamed Christianity. But throughout human history, there's been multiple times that empires fell after people starting believing that men and women are equal. All...

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[mlcurrycel]

Didnt read, Too long.

1 man, 1 woman

 

[mlcurrycel]

Until the industrial revolution, children were raised not by a monogamous couple but by the whole village, which always included many relatives and close acquaintances. That was ok

A monogamous couple is too narrow a base to provide a good education. Parental education is obsolete

Oh come on dude, there's a difference between "monogamous couple" and "nuclear family"

You realise this comes across as you strawmanning me, right? But it could be a honest mistake as well

I'm from a multi-generational extended family from India. In some third world countries, you have extended family without monogamy. In others, you have extended family with monogamy.

Patrilocal, patrilineal, monogamous societies always win.

 

[Lonelyus]

1 man, 1 woman

Yeah thats how it should be

 

[Lonelyus]

Oh come on dude, there's a difference between "monogamous couple" and "nuclear family"

You realise this comes across as you strawmanning me, right? But it could be a honest mistake as well

I'm from a multi-generational extended family from India. In some third world countries, you have extended family without monogamy. In others, you have extended family with monogamy.

Patrilocal, patrilineal, monogamous societies always win.

Just grope or rape aleredy