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This is basically me, a lot of incels I've talked to have this same story, the black pill really starts to set in when you are in that university phase, everything becomes obvious and more in your face, to add to it all one of my best friends, a guy who I would pretty much say is another me, killed himself, we had that much in common when it came to our mindset, same dark sense of humor, same kinds of jokes, etc, I could start off saying something random and like were in sync he'd just add to it and we'd go on and on with some crazy story and people couldn't help but laugh
Sometimes I feel like it was partly my fault, like there was too much darkness and crazy between the two of us an we fed off of eachother, and unlike him, I guess I was the "darker" of the two, the more willful one, as I could never kill myself. As life went on things got more serious, problems we could all ignore became too "in your face", and I guess he just couldn't handle it
Him killing himself was something I needed though, many things in my life happened that were crucial "turning points" that shaped the way I think, we all like to think were objective, but we all have blindspots, I believe my attachment to "friendship" was my last blindspot, after that left I pretty much abandoned all common concepts of morality as I saw them as useless
You can't live your life dependent on the actions of others, you can't plan your life around friends or family (or romantic interests), because at the end of the day, the only person you can depend on to follow your life plan and not "ruin it for you" IS YOU, everyone else is pretty much your enemy, because everyone else is a threat to the masterpiece you are trying to create on the blank canvas of life, you want to use shades of blue but they want to throw an entire bucket of red at it, now its ruined for you because you wanted to paint as a group
You can only live for yourself if you want a stable life, allowing others a controlling position in your wants and desires is asking for chaos and eventually failure, and when everything comes tumbling down, there's no guarantee they will stick around to help pick up the pieces
You could write a sitcom about this group JFL (but as adults)
Yeah. I had a miserable time in highschool, i had no interest in most of my work and honestly it was so easy that i didn't have to do much to get decent grades. Most of my energy went on getting into trouble, fights, getting out of trouble. etc. Although i do have some fond memories of being with my crew, shooting catapults and airguns, riding our bikes, breaking into abandoned buildings, playing xbox, we used to race old dirt bikes around the derelict factory site on the housing estate next to the school. However had things are people who depend on you are a good coping mechanism.
I had a miserable time in 6th form college and had even less motivation, i never made any friends at college and couldn't stand the people. I didn't even go to class half the time. My grade suffered a bit but the work wasn't particularly hard. I wasted most of my time on my computer where i first got introduced to the bowels of the internet and PUA as it was back in the mid 00's. By the time i got to university i was desperately looking for work but it was very difficult because even after 12 years of full time education you aren't even qualified to be flipping burgers and unemployment was quite bad where i lived.
Eventually i stopped bothering with class altogether. I just whiled away my time while looking for jobs. I did manage to get the odd week here or there helping a contractor for cash but nothing i could put on my CV as experience. I spent the small inheritance i got from my grandma on booze and "walking around" money a bit at a time.
I was pretty alone. The people i hung out with at highschool went their own way and they were of no real help to me because most of them had more issues than i did. I haven't seen many of them since year 11. My oldest friend is more high functioning than i was and i couldn't really talk to him about it and he was busy with his own life too. I used to talk to a few people online - oddly enough quite a few of them were women which is where i learned how messed up women were and how being a beta orbiter is a non starter.
I'm sorry you lost your friend bro. I'd be pretty devastated if i lost the few that i have. You know you might have unresolved trauma from blaming yourself. I really don't think we can control other peoples actions. You never know who has the necessary coping skills and who doesn't. Realistically after a certain age you never make the friends you do as when you are young. I had some decent enough friends when i was in year 7 but i lost most of them to drink, drugs or puberty over the space of a year or two. Many of them went off to chase girls when they got to 13 or 14 and stabbed me in the back.
Now i'm in my 30's i have been single for so long i have grown accustomed to living life on my own terms. With my income level and how i got used to living i don't think i could have a relationship at this point because i have learned you really can only count on yourself.
As for my highschool "crew" mate i could write a novel about the things we got up to and the shit we pulled off. My 2nd in command he might have been a weirdo and sex predator who i increasingly struggled to control but he was quite dependable when the cards were down and he had very few inhibitions. I'm more high inhibition but when the chips are down you do crazy shit. Without me to watch out for him he got a lot worse and is still basically borderline unemployed at my age. I talk to him on Facebook sometimes. It reminds me of how i could have turned out if i wasn't more high functioning.