why left-wing parties harm socialism/communism more

[Fat Chink]

The Bolsheviks also wanted to create a universal human being, ideally suited for building communism, i.e. Homo Sovieticus. In the early USSR, they tried to create a Soviet nation, and babies were given names based on communism. These names were abbreviations. For example, Damir ("Long live peace!"), Delesh ("Lenin's cause lives on!"), Dalis ("Long live Lenin and Stalin!").

Names of Soviet origin - Wikipedia

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Detach oneself from religion.
Because religion served as an instrument of oppression.
Religion should no longer be the opium of the people and should orient people not toward the afterlife, but also toward this world.
This world should be important to the workers, and they should find peace in this world and not in the afterlife.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

not really... I don't think I need to give you examples of how a religion does not make a nation.

the entire west has the same clothing, yet no one would say that these ethnic groups do not exist.


Esperanto was a funny idea and was intended to replace English as a world language...

The USSR simply chose Russian as its common language...nothing special.

On behalf of V. I. Lenin: Varlen ("Lenin's Great Army"), Vilen/a (short for "Vladimir Ilyich Lenin"), Vilenor (short for the slogan "V. I. Lenin is the Father of the Revolution").
On behalf of I. V. Stalin: Stalber (short for "Stalin and Beria"), Staliv (short for Stalin's last name and initials), Stalen (short for "Stalin and Lenin"), Stalet (short for the last names "Stalin," "Lenin," and "Trotsky").
Derivatives of popular communist slogans: Dasemir (from "Long live the world revolution!"), Dasdrasmygda (from "Long live the bond of town and village!"), Dasdrasen (from "Long live the Seventh of November!"), Damir/a (from "Long live the world").
Variations on the theme of the revolutionary ideologies: Agitprop (from "Department of Agitation and Propaganda at the Central Committee of the CPSU (b)"), Barricade/a, Fighter, Leader, Karmiy/ya (from "Red Army"), Kid (from "Communist Ideal"), Kim (from "Communist Youth International"), Revvol (from "Revolutionary Will") and others.
Names associated with revolutionary themes: Communera, Iskra, Laila (

 

[Fat Chink]

If we remove all borders then that will not be preserved. Trust me.

A folk would defend themselves, as this is quite natural, if it were to be subjected to an artificial invasion.
Artificial migration only occurs because the people have no say in the extent to which they want so many foreigners to come into the country.

 

[chudjak]

not really... I don't think I need to give you examples of how a religion does not make a nation.

the entire west has the same clothing, yet no one would say that these ethnic groups do not exist.


Esperanto was a funny idea and was intended to replace English as a world language...

The USSR simply chose Russian as its common language...nothing special.

Stalin said "A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture"

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Detach oneself from religion.
Because religion served as an instrument of oppression.
Religion should no longer be the opium of the people and should orient people not toward the afterlife, but also toward this world.
This world should be important to the workers, and they should find peace in this world and not in the afterlife.

Religion saved many nations from assimilation. The only reason the Irish survived was because they were Catholics and the English were Protestants. The only reason the Greeks survived was because they were Orthodox and the Turks were Muslims. The only reason the Poles survived after the partition of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was because they were Catholic. Catholicism distinguished the Poles from the Russians and Germans and prevented Russification and Germanization during the partitions of the 19th century.

 

[chudjak]

A people would defend themselves, as this is quite natural, if it were to be subjected to an artificial invasion.
Artificial migration only occurs because the people have no say in the extent to which they want so many foreigners to come into the country.

But they aren't. European nations are currently being demographically replaced because their borders are not respected. Africans, Indians, and other third worlders mass breed and then migrate to Europe in order to replace us. This would happen under communism as well, who would stop it? There would be no state or borders in the first place.

 

[Fat Chink]

Religion saved many nations from assimilation.

Which ones?
Through violence, Christians became Muslims, and Muslims became Christians.

The only reason the Irish survived

What should they do? Wipe out the Irish completely? They survived because they existed.

The only reason the Greeks survived was because they were Orthodox and the Turks were Muslims.

As far as I know, Turks are genetically Greek.
The actual Turks looked East Asian...

Catholicism distinguished the Poles from the Russians and Germans and prevented Russification and Germanization during the partitions of the 19th century.

I don't think religion is as important as language, culture, style, and appearance.
Religion can't replace culture, but it lives within you.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Which ones?
Through violence, Christians became Muslims, and Muslims became Christians.

What should they do? Wipe out the Irish completely? They survived because they existed.

As far as I know, Turks are genetically Greek.
The actual Turks looked East Asian...

I don't think religion is as important as language, culture, style, and appearance.
Religion can replace culture, but it lives within you.

By survived, I meant national self-awareness.

 

[chudjak]

Off topic but best way to preserve nation and race through religion is to put race first, religion should be things like honoring your bloodline like with the neopagans of the SS

Which ones?
Through violence, Christians became Muslims, and Muslims became Christians.

What should they do? Wipe out the Irish completely? They survived because they existed.

As far as I know, Turks are genetically Greek.
The actual Turks looked East Asian...

I don't think religion is as important as language, culture, style, and appearance.
Religion can replace culture, but it lives within you.

 

[Fat Chink]

This would happen under communism as well, who would stop it?

In Germany, there is a right-wing party called the AfD.
It was classified as right-wing extremist by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, but this decision was later reversed.
The party's chairman, Björn Höcke, wrote in his book that East Germany (old DDR area) has remained the same and has not experienced mass migration.
His father, who grew up in the DDR (a german state in the Soviet Union), said this.
Migration is a purely Western problem, as communist states do not suffer from it.
To this day, East Germany remains one of the purest regions where the population has not been changed by mass migration.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Which ones?
Through violence, Christians became Muslims, and Muslims became Christians.

What should they do? Wipe out the Irish completely? They survived because they existed.

As far as I know, Turks are genetically Greek.
The actual Turks looked East Asian...

I don't think religion is as important as language, culture, style, and appearance.
Religion can replace culture, but it lives within you.

Before the 20th century, language was not as important as religion for self-awareness, as many countries had many illiterate people who could not read or write, and secondly, it was often the case that the elite spoke a foreign language (French, for example), while the peasants spoke their own language.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

In Germany, there is a right-wing party called the AfD.
It was classified as right-wing extremist by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, but this decision was later reversed.
The party's chairman, Björn Höcke, wrote in his book that East Germany has remained the same and has not experienced mass migration.
His father, who grew up in the GDR, said this.
Migration is a purely Western problem, as communist states do not suffer from it.
To this day, East Germany remains one of the purest regions where the population has not been changed by mass migration.

Nonsense. The USSR and the USA did the same thing with the occupied countries. The USA forced West Germany to accept millions of Turkish labor immigrants because Turkey was an important member of the NATO bloc. The USSR forced Czechoslovakia to accept Vietnamese labor migrants, because Vietnam was important ally USSR.

 

[chudjak]

East Germany has remained the same and has not experienced mass migration.
His father, who grew up in the GDR, said this.
Migration is a purely Western problem, as communist states do not suffer from it.

Communist state is an oxymoron. They are dictatorships of the proletariat. They had not achieved communism, if they did then no state, borders, religion, or racial consciousness would exist.

 

[Fat Chink]

The USSR forced Czechoslovakia to accept Vietnamese labor migrants, because Vietnam was important ally USSR.

Firstly, Vietnamese are much quieter and won't replace a people, and secondly, there were so few of them that there were hardly any.
My mother came from communist Poland, and she said that migrants were a kind of sensation because they were so rare in the Soviet Union.
My mother only knew Arabs from television, and she saw a black one once, but he was a sensation because there were only a few of them.
She is rather anti-communist because the west has indoctrinated her into believing that communism is a bad thing and that she only follows Jesus lol.

 

[Fat Chink]

They are dictatorships of the proletariat.

Would a dictatorship of a 1% that treats you like dirt be better?

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Firstly, Vietnamese are much quieter and won't replace a people, and secondly, there were so few of them that there were hardly any.
My mother came from communist Poland, and she said that migrants were a kind of sensation because they were so rare in the Soviet Union.
My mother only knew Arabs from television, and she saw a black one once, but he was a sensation because there were only a few of them.

No, the USSR was not interested in the racial purity of the Eastern European puppets, just as the USA was not interested in the racial purity of the Western European puppets. When it was necessary to force a puppet to accept migrants in order to retain an ally, the USA wanted to retain Turkey, and the USSR wanted to retain Vietnam, so the USA forced the West Germans to accept millions of Turks, and the USSR forced the Czechoslovaks to accept a hundred thousand Vietnamese.

 

[Fat Chink]

Before the 20th century, language was not as important as religion for self-awareness, as many countries had many illiterate people who could not read or write, and secondly, it was often the case that the elite spoke a foreign language (French, for example), while the peasants spoke their own language.

A foreign language is something dangerous...that's why states have always banned a certain language first, because people could no longer communicate with each other and the occupier couldn't understand them...

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Firstly, Vietnamese are much quieter and won't replace a people, and secondly, there were so few of them that there were hardly any.
My mother came from communist Poland, and she said that migrants were a kind of sensation because they were so rare in the Soviet Union.
My mother only knew Arabs from television, and she saw a black one once, but he was a sensation because there were only a few of them.
She is rather anti-communist because the west has indoctrinated her into believing that communism is a bad thing and that she only follows Jesus lol.

Communism/ Marxism and liberalism/ capitalism they are equally international.

 

[chudjak]

Would a dictatorship of a 1% that treats you like dirt be better?

I don't think you understand what dictatorship of the proletariat means. It's a Marxist term. It means when the "proletariat" takes over the state and has their class dictatorship as opposed to a bourgeois dictatorship, it is otherwise known as the socialist stage. It is a stepping stone in the achievement of communism, which is stateless and borderless.

It isn't derogatory as it's a Marxist term, but in my eyes it's a lie. It's really just Jewish occupied governments. The only revolution that matters is racial

 

[Fat Chink]

and the USSR forced the Czechoslovaks to accept a hundred thousand Vietnamese.

I don't know what it was like in Czechoslovakia, but I can say that in Poland there were virtually no migrants there...
And honestly, Japanese, Vietnamese, and Chinese aren't a major threat to the culture, the people, or anything else.

 

[Fat Chink]

Communism/ Marxism and liberalism/ capitalism they are equally international.

Why do you think they fought each other for years?

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

I don't know what it was like in Czechoslovakia, but I can say that in Poland there were virtually no migrants there...
And honestly, Japanese, Vietnamese, and Chinese aren't a major threat to the culture, the people, or anything else.

Vietnamese people in the Czech Republic - Wikipedia

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[Fat Chink]

Vietnamese people in the Czech Republic - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

"It is the third-largest Vietnamese diaspora in Europe, after Germany and France, and one of the most populous Vietnamese diasporas of the world."
Even the West has more Vietnamese...

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Why do you think they fought each other for years?

It wasn't a war, it was just a spectacle for the goyim. When the time came, the liberals and the communists united against the fascists, and the colonial empire the parliamentary monarchy, the communist dictatorship, and the presidential republic all came together against Nazism.

 

[chudjak]

Why do you think they fought each other for years?

It was all a game. A false dichotomy with Jews playing both sides. When the ussr had outplayed it's purpose, it was dissolved. Most of their conflicts during the cold war were just different proxy wars for their own state interest of wanting influence in the region

 

[Fat Chink]

I don't think you understand what dictatorship of the proletariat means.

The nationalization of private businesses is bad?
Do you know how the people fared under their same-race kings, leaders, and princes?
Exploitation, violence, and destruction were part of everyday life.
That's how people of the same race treated their people.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

It was all a game. A false dichotomy with Jews playing both sides. When the ussr had outplayed it's purpose, it was dissolved. Most of their conflicts during the cold war were just different proxy wars for their own state interest of wanting influence in the region

Yes, the USSR and the USA could have gone to war with each other many times, but each time it was magically resolved. The USSR and the USA could have gone to war after the blockade of West Berlin, after the Cuban crisis or the tensions near the Charlie pass and many other places, but each time they magically agreed.

 

[four1298]

I'm a communist.

 

[Fat Chink]

fascists

Fascism is only a way to protect capital and a last resort when things become dangerous for capital.

It was not for nothing that fascists began to hunt down communists because they wanted to maintain the status quo (capital).

d the presidential republic all came together against Nazism.

The Soviets fought this war because, of course, they repelled the Nazis.
Only at the end of the war did the USA enter the war to prevent the Soviets from advancing across Europe.
The Soviets fought this war and could have conquered all of Europe had the West not joined the war early on.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

The nationalization of private businesses is bad?
Do you know how the people fared under their same-race kings, leaders, and princes?
Exploitation, violence, and destruction were part of everyday life.
That's how people of the same race treated their people.

Many countries with capitalism and monarchy are good places to live, such as Sweden, Denmark, and Norway. Capitalism can be humane (social democracy) or savage (Victorian or neoliberal).

 

[Fat Chink]

Yes, the USSR and the USA could have gone to war with each other many times, but each time it was magically resolved. The USSR and the USA could have gone to war after the blockade of West Berlin, after the Cuban crisis or the tensions near the Charlie pass and many other places, but each time they magically agreed.

Why should one attack a nuclear power?

 

[chudjak]

The nationalization of private businesses is bad?
Do you know how the people fared under their same-race kings, leaders, and princes?
Exploitation, violence, and destruction were part of everyday life.
That's how people of the same race treated their people.

1. It can be, sure. Like what Stalin did, collectivizing the farms in Ukraine, banning them from leaving during a famine, and making HALF of Kazakhstans entire population die off. It should be noted that Nazi Germany were the only country to arrest a Rothschild, the Jew family that owns most gold in the world.
2. Hitler wanted a racial revolution called national socialism where the entire volk would have the same interest and lift each other up, he didn't like the decadent weak idiots that allowed Jews to ruin everything either.
3. Okay? Racial infighting can happen. And its a good thing to stop it if it can be stopped. We should all be in this together. Simply put though, i prefer not to be replaced with aliens that are hostile to the white race.

 

[Fat Chink]

Capitalism can be humane (social democracy)

Capitalism and democracy are mutually exclusive.
Why are US presidents rich, old, and incompetent?
That's right. They bought their positions.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Fascism is only a way to protect capital and a last resort when things become dangerous for capital.

It was not for nothing that fascists began to hunt down communists because they wanted to maintain the status quo (capital).

The Soviets fought this war because, of course, they repelled the Nazis.
Only at the end of the war did the USA enter the war to prevent the Soviets from advancing across Europe.
The Soviets fought this war and could have conquered all of Europe had the West not joined the war early on.

The USSR would have been defeated without the United States and Great Britain. Stalin toasted America and the Allies. "I want to tell you what, from a Russian perspective, the President and the United States have done to win the war. The most important things in this war are machines. The United States has proven that it can produce between 8,000 and 10,000 aircraft per month. Russia can produce, at most, 3,000 aircraft per month. England produces 3,000-3,500 per month, mostly heavy bombers. Thus, the United States is a country of machines. Without these Lend-Lease machines, we would have lost this war."
J. Stalin

 

[chudjak]

It was not for nothing that fascists began to hunt down communists because they wanted to maintain the status quo (capital).

Or maybe because the communist were Jewish puppets? Jews created the first trans clinics in Germany, a Jew signed the treaty of Versailles, Jews led the bavarian communist uprising, Jews lead antifa. The communist were decadent retards who were going to destroy the country.

 

[AsiaCel]

There was a feminist who was turned away by Karl Marx himself. I forgot the name.

Tbh I think national corporatism is the way to go, not the Marxist view that seek to destroy everything that make a nation.

Marxism, at least the raw variant of it, means you have to inevitably accept LGBT and feminists.

 

[Fat Chink]

The USSR would have been defeated without the United States and Great Britain.

See the Battle of Stalingrad and the largest tank battle of World War II.

Germany no longer had a chance after the fall of power in Stalingrad.

Even Hitler said in a secret recording that he had never seen such a buildup of armaments as the Soviets did and that he didn't know they were so heavily armed.

 

[autistspy1]

I recently watched the communist YouTuber Avantgarde.
He represents an opinion of communism that actually goes back to its original origins, according to Lenin and Marx.
I also share this view.
He believes that left-wing parties would do more harm to communism because they appear to be a less radical solution and thus act as an opposing party to communism by selling a less radical solution.
Left-wing parties are system parties that completely distort the fight against capital.
Today's left-wing parties are not left-wing.
As soon as they come to power, they reverse their polarity and suddenly become system parties.
We live in a pseudo-democracy, so an opposition is needed.
Once a left-wing party comes to power, its task is to betray the proletariat and completely subordinate itself to capitalism.
In Germany, a left-wing party was in power.
At that time, they were strictly against arms deliveries to war zones.
Once it was, it suddenly became the largest arms supplier and openly advocated for arms deliveries to Ukraine.
Left-wing parties distort the actual goal, namely the destruction of a capitalist society.
Instead, they draw attention to LGBTQ and the environment, something Karl Marx never had anything to do with.
This opinion is hated in the left-wing bubble because most leftists trust left-wing parties and don't understand that these are necessary oppositions that serve the system to create the impression of democracy.
If a party were actually to emerge that wanted to implement the communist idea, it would have long since been classified as anti-system and banned, just as happened with the KPD in Germany in 1957.
Left-wing parties distort the actual problem and themselves become a massive problem for genuine left-wing ideas because, like the opium of the people, they manipulate voters and distract from the real problem.
Just look at the left-wing parties. There aren't even any ordinary workers there; the top ranks consist of an elite who have studied and come from wealthy households.

Left-wing parties are a lie. I'm of the opinion that there aren't really any left-wing parties, as they were banned long ago because they were hostile to the system.
What you see isn't left-wing, but the system wants you to believe it is so that you don't question the system and resign yourself to your fate.
They have distorted being left-wing so much that it's barely recognizable, and no one knows the true origins of the ideas, but only what so-called left-wing parties say.
You are being lied to and deceived; you must never know what communist ideas imply, because that would be a danger to any system.
The system won't tell you how to destroy it - why should it?
It will do its best to maintain the status quo and protect capital.
There is no country today that allows communist ideas, because these ideas are always directed against the existing system, and no one wants to lose their power.
Don't believe what they're trying to sell you as left-wing.
Karl Marx wasn't an LGBTQ supporter, and Lenin didn't found a gay party.
That was never the point, just as it wasn't about mass migration. They're trying to sell you something left-wing that it isn't.
That was never left-wing and never will be.
The main goal has always been the destruction of capital and the transfer of land and production goods to the people.
Russia is no longer a communist country, although they like to inscribe the victories of communism on their flag.
The Russian flag was always considered an enemy flag.
The USSR no longer exists; only its fruits live on, inscribing false snakes on their flags.
The ideas live on, only attempts are being made to distort and rewrite them so that they become compatible with the system.

View: https://youtu.be/oZKlO7d-QZI?feature=shared

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Fascism is only a way to protect capital and a last resort when things become dangerous for capital.

It was not for nothing that fascists began to hunt down communists because they wanted to maintain the status quo (capital).

The Soviets fought this war because, of course, they repelled the Nazis.
Only at the end of the war did the USA enter the war to prevent the Soviets from advancing across Europe.
The Soviets fought this war and could have conquered all of Europe had the West not joined the war early on.

There is indirect evidence that in late 1942, Stalin was willing to give the Germans all of Ukraine, all of Belarus, all of southern Russia, and all of the Baltic states in exchange for an armistice, as the situation in the USSR was desperate.

 

[chudjak]

protect capital and a last resort when things become dangerous for capital

By the way, the soviets preserved commodity production and had a wealthy elite from basically the 20s onward.

 

[Fat Chink]

There is indirect evidence that in late 1942, Stalin was willing to give the Germans all of Ukraine, all of Belarus, all of southern Russia, and all of the Baltic states in exchange for an armistice, as the situation in the USSR was desperate.

Russia would never have given up its south because that's where the oil reserves were, which is why they fought like crazy over it.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

See the Battle of Stalingrad and the largest tank battle of World War II.

Germany no longer had a chance after the fall of power in Stalingrad.

Even Hitler said in a secret recording that he had never seen such a buildup of armaments as the Soviets did and that he didn't know they were so heavily armed.

The USSR simply used cannon fodder to crush the Germans, so the Germans suffered fewer casualties in almost every battle, but the USSR had a huge supply of young men who were willing to sacrifice themselves for the war.

 

[Fat Chink]

but the USSR had a huge supply of young men who were willing to sacrifice themselves for the war.

The great country had to transition from the Tsarist agrarian economy to the modern Soviet state.

 

[AsiaCel]

By the way, the soviets preserved commodity production and had a wealthy elite from basically the 20s onward.

That just shows the inevitable towards hierarchy.

Even in China, they consider class collaboration as a form of non-confrontation class struggle.

阶级合作

阶级合作指阶级关系中既对立又统一的互动形态，属于阶级斗争的特殊表现形式。该概念具有双重属性：既包含被剥削阶级间的联合行动（如无产阶级与农民阶级合作），也涵盖不同意识形态阵营的暂时妥协（如反法西斯同盟）。在新民主主义革命时期，中国共产党通过北伐战争（1924-1927）与抗日战争（1937-1945）两次国共合作实践，展现了阶级合作策略对推动历史进程的积极作用。马克思主义理论认为，阶级合作需要通过生产关系变革实现根本性转化，其合法性形式包含对话、协商等非暴力方式。

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[Anarcho Nihilist]

See the Battle of Stalingrad and the largest tank battle of World War II.

Germany no longer had a chance after the fall of power in Stalingrad.

Even Hitler said in a secret recording that he had never seen such a buildup of armaments as the Soviets did and that he didn't know they were so heavily armed.

Russia would never have given up its south because that's where the oil reserves were, which is why they fought like crazy over it.

Stalin was willing to do anything for an armistice in order to maintain his power in the remaining territory. Stalin did not believe in Hitler's attack, as he thought that the Germans would go to the Middle East after the Battle of Britain, and he refused to believe in the preparations for an attack. He even forbade Soviet troops from attacking the Germans in case of provocations, and he forbade Soviet pilots from shooting down German planes if they crossed the Soviet border.

 

[Fat Chink]

Stalin was willing to do anything for an armistice in order to maintain his power in the remaining territory. Stalin did not believe in Hitler's attack, as he thought that the Germans would go to the Middle East after the Battle of Britain, and he refused to believe in the preparations for an attack. He even forbade Soviet troops from attacking the Germans in case of provocations, and he forbade Soviet pilots from shooting down German planes if they crossed the Soviet border.

That was a secret Hitler recording.
Listen to what he says about the Soviets:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oET1WaG5sFk

Listen to what he said about the soviets...

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

The great country had to transition from the Tsarist agrarian economy to the modern Soviet state.

Stalin literally took food away from his people in order to sell wheat to the United States and get currency for it, and use the currency to buy factories from the United States. Every Soviet factory in the 1930s was built by American engineers.

 

[Fat Chink]

Every Soviet factory in the 1930s was built by American engineers.

tales from the capitalstic factory...

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

tales from the capitalstic factory...

This is true. Every Soviet factory built during the 1930s industrialization was purchased from American engineers.

 

[Fat Chink]

This is true. Every Soviet factory built during the 1930s industrialization was purchased from American engineers.

And the ancient Egyptians were actually black, and Jesus was black too.
By the way, Marx, Tesla, and Leonardo da Vinci were all black.
We wuz kings and shit
what you smoked?
Where do you learn history?