I mean Hitler supported our Independence effort and Israel supplied arms to us in 1971 war. Both of you are same to us.
These "scholors" like Irfan Habib, Romila Thapar, Audrey Truschke or Wendy Doniger always fabricate history and white wash crimes of mullas. They claim Aurangzeb and mugals were "secular" and "plural".
They just sit in their AC rooms and spout nonsense that's it.
Yes curries here create false histories like vaimanika shastra and shit but so do those western "scholars".
I said similar not same. They all have the same template.
your posts fall under “spam like in nature” because they keep bumping the thread over and over again.
Yeah, hindu nationalist are usually mocked because of that.
I didn’t talk about Muslin rule over India, but rather pre-Islamic mostly. Whitewashing happens more from the Hindu side of that past, like you have done in the past with trying to rationalize or make excuses for things we talked about before.
Western scholarly analysis is much more reliable than curry analysis of history. No historian is perfect and they’re all subject to biases. But westerners don’t have anything to lose if they find inconvenient things about Indian history.
In what way?
Same template of reincarnation, karma and extra "work" that need to be put in to break the cycle and reach moksha or similar concept.
All abrahamic religions also have same template
Like at least 95% of this forum also supports Nazis despite them being non-white. Agreed it's cringe but we are not unique.
I think originally the Vedic religion didn’t teach reincarnation. Karma means completely different things in different traditions, for example in Jainism it is a substance of matter that sticks to the soul. Mimamsa don’t have a concept of enlightenment afaik.
They do when they find about inconvenient truths of mullas. They always white wash Aurangzeb, mugals and the invations and took place and claim all them were "progressive".
Some even claim the attack on Somnath temple was for iteration dalits from brahmins. They create false history all the time. Asking about Aurangzeb or Tipu Sultan and they will tell all their white washed tales.
Again, I said similar not exact same.
Cope. We have literal proof of all the mullas being savages and killing many Hindus, Jains, Christians not not a single textbook here talks about them.
Marxist Nigger JNU NCERT even had to remove misleading thing about Bhramins they wrote because they could not provide the source of their claims.
View: https://twitter.com/Vivekpandey21/status/1754060887302738327
There isn't even one page in our history textbooks about the crimes committed by mullas. And they write shit like this in our textbooks
They claims Aurangzeb gave grants to build Hindu temples and again they could not provide any sources and had to remove it
'Aurangazeb gave grants to rebuild temples': NCERT has no info to back its textbook claims, reveals RTI query
The NCERT said it had no information to back its history textbook claim that Aurangazeb gave grants to rebuild temples.
It is inevitable that all of us end up in echo chambers but look at the situation from others' side as well.
well we were talking about preislamic history, but based on my reading it seems even the people are also claiming from the othet side that white “colonials” were doing the same by claiming the muslims were the bad guys.There isn't even one page in our history textbooks about the crimes committed by mullas. And they write shit like this in our textbooks
They claims Aurangzeb gave grants to build Hindu temples and again they could not provide any sources and had to remove it
'Aurangazeb gave grants to rebuild temples': NCERT has no info to back its textbook claims, reveals RTI query
The NCERT said it had no information to back its history textbook claim that Aurangazeb gave grants to rebuild temples.www.timesnownews.com
Like this for example.
Debunking Myths Around The Mughals: Did The Pre-Colonial Subcontinent Really Need A White Man’s Saving?
One of the prime examples of history being moulded and misinterpreted in order to provide political justifications is the historiography of pre-colonial India,
thefridaytimes.com
She is obviously wrong, cause curries were divided into varnas (rig veda) and that women and shudras couldn’t read vedas (as per the law of manu).
You don't know reality them. Like I showed you non-Hindu Indic religion support Hindutva more than Hindus themselves. Hindutva has nothing to do with Hinduism.
We are all tired of these pesky Marxist and mullas trying to change the fact that India was a religious and spiritual country and are "secularizing" it and never doing this to mullas who are "victims" and minorities.
Yeah. But what's with Bhramin specific bashing. Don't you know Manu himself was a kshatriya. Even in Mahabharata and Ramayana kshatriyas were the ones gate keeping everyone's verna's even of Bhramins like with what happened in battle field of kurukshetra with Dronacharya
It's hard to predict what would have happened without entry of British and other Europeans but all the can say is British treated final mugals good
Afaik manu was mythological. The brahmins are the ones who wrote most of these texts.
Veda Vyasa himself was a Sudhra, who wrote Mahabharata and Vedas.
Also, even Bhramins also couldn't join other professions if they wanted to, like Dronacharya was mocked at during battle because he was a bhramin.
And they wrote themselves to be Sudhas and Kshatriyas
This is like telling Jews were the ones writing all the abrahamic religions books
. Coping is real. All of the communities were complicit in any of the social evils not just the Bhramins. Even today Rajputs and other land owing communities are the most castist and are not blamed enough for it.Bhramins simply lack the power and demographics to create any influence today.
He did not write the Vedas jfl, that is just myth. His mother was shudra but his father was a brahmin, so he would be considered impure or whatever.
Killing a brahmin was forbidden.
Comparing it modern times the brahmins are looked at as both politicians and theorists and kshatriays as the police state and such doing their bidding (despite the king being kshatriya).And they wrote themselves to be Sudhas and Kshatriyas
This is like telling Jews were the ones writing all the abrahamic religions books
Bhramins simply lack the power and demographics to create any influence today.
He was beheaded in that battle despite being a bhramin.
Didn't we just agree most of the religions are all just myths. So what? All of them are myths. And the Myth is that Mahabharata and Vedas were written by a Sudhra
Same with Valmiki who wrote Ramayana.
No Bhramins were like bureaucrats and academics. But ultimate power lies with the ones who possesses the sword
I looked it up a while ago, and he was a Brahmin because his father was a Brahmin. Brahmins could marry women of a lower caste, but males could not marry someone of a higher caste. This hypergamy is actually the source of the concept into the west.
It seems it’s just that brahmins like this would be looked down upon by some for not being as pure.
True, but just like today the military is controlled by the bureaucrats.
Not in India. Directly controlled by the Central Government.
Ok? They will be looked down and they and their writing will be worshiped. Correct?
Not just Bhramins even Kshatriya also. What's with Bhramin specific mentioning again and again? Like I said Manu himself was a kshatriya.
If anything kshatriyas should be blamed for it.
You are a believer of Critical Caste Theory or what?
Exactly the point. Hindu society did not invent anything new. This was true when we in animals and this true even till today. Hypergamy is the nature of humans.
Stfu!His bosses will be Jewish. Yeah, they would have been baby dick sucking
God damn racist
Sorry I won't do that again
Kys faggot this is last warning any more antisemetic activity (((we))) will sending people to kill you (in gam)Bleeding Baby dick sucker got offended huh?
You wont. This is all JFL. Remember not even one Jews was persecuted in India. Jews and Hindus are good allies. We both want total death to those sand niggers.
Israel makes good arms as well. Necessary for when bombing Pakistan
I’m communist NYC wealthmaxx Jew . I hate Israel and I hate non white. And I definitely don’t get along with shit skinYou wont. This is all JFL. Remember not even one Jews was persecuted in India. Jews and Hindus are good allies. We both want total death to those sand niggers.
Israel makes good arms as well. Necessary for when bombing Pakistan
Self hater then?
I appear white but my issue is I’m 5’4 and ugly! Death to shit skin
Similar problem
Fuck off you firstBe the change you want to see in the world and kill your self first then
Looked down at least according the Buddhist texts, where the Brahmins bragged about being pure blooded.
Kshatriyas didn’t write these texts
No, just that brahmins were pretty redpilled about women it seems. They knew about hypergamy as a concept.You are a believer of Critical Caste Theory or what?
Exactly the point. Hindu society did not invent anything new. This was true when we in animals and this true even till today. Hypergamy is the nature of humans.
I’d love to commit genicide against India and Asia with nuclear/biologicsl/chemical weaponBe the change you want to see in the world and kill your self first then
Would you trust material written by other Christians and Muslims on Jews? Or would you observe Jew reading their own scriptures?
Manusmrithi was written by Kshatriya according to itself.
Proof. Only Bhramins were?
Everyone knows hypergamy as a concept. It's very obvious. I knew I has to be more earning, more educated and taller than my wife even when I was bluepilled. It's so obvious female nature across species.
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It is said that Bharata was another name of Manu. Who was Bharata Chakravarti in Jainism
Bharata (Jainism) - Wikipedia
This would make sense. Considering that Bharata was the one who invented vernas even in jainism. So even in Jainism, Kshatriya created vernas
Both, because the Buddhist and Jain sources will be other points of views on what they claimed that might not be found in recorded Hindu texts. Regardless, if you think Vyasa was a pure brahmin that wasn’t looked down on, them fair enough.
Yeah you’re right (along with a Brahmin Bhigru). But scholars don’t believe this obviously, so they will just say some unknown brahmins (since it’s based on older texts).
it is obvious but there doesn’t seem to be a named concept for it. According to the hypergamy wikipedia page, the words were made after translating curry texts into english.
Bharata was not Manu in Hinduism.It is said that Bharata was another name of Manu. Who was Bharata Chakravarti in Jainism
Bharata (Jainism) - Wikipedia
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This would make sense. Considering that Bharata was the one who invented vernas even in jainism. So even in Jainism, Kshatriya created vernas
Think about it
Both are prehistoric kings that are called Bharata and are said to be first rulers of India hence name of India is Bharat according to both Hinduism and Jainism. Both of them are said to have created verna system especially rules about Bhramins.
Doesn't it sound similar. More research has to be done on this topic.
Who cares about these "scholars". They will claim trans woman are woman without a though.
This is nothing but making bhramins scapegoats for all the social evils, when in reality all the people including some in the lower castes are complicit in this. Everyone must take collective responsibility and reform the system, which is Hindutva's goal.
Hindu means those who believe in the sanctity and superiority of 4vedas, believe in the atman brahman and non-duality of atman brahman, believe in the varnashram. These are the fundamental qualities to believe who is Hindu. But unfortunately today Hindu Nationalist retards try to frame every Indic religion and non-Vedic indigenous animist and tribal into the greater Hindu fold
Hinduism is an organized religion, those who believe in the superiority and sanicity of 4 vedas, believer of atman brahman, accept the non-duality of atman brahman mentioned in Gita, believer of varnashram, believe in the social laws of smritis is definitely a believer of Hinduism
Not all Hindus believe in all that. For example there are shiva worshippers who reject the vedas and there are many dualistic hindu traditions, etc.
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