no agecucks would be a great rule
Ban everyone who uses the words "agecuck" and "moralfag" to feign righteous indignation and veil their pedophilia. You fedposting turds will attract heat and doom the forum. Go talk about your love of sex with children elsewhere. Stop piggybacking on to incel forums like fucking parasites and viruses.
Fucking degenerates.
Crack down HARD on what it is to be a braggart/fakecel. At least so I know where we stand.
Braggart is pretty straightforward. Fakecel is going to depend on how the forum settles on the definition of incel.
Define incel for once and for all.
This is probably the most important order of business, first and foremost. This is, after all, an incel forum.
It's probably done a little on purpose. The more rules you have, the more censorship and abuse associated with them... which throws people off. It's a delicate matter.
Personally, I believe it should encompass all males, and not just sex. The perfect definition imo would be:
incels are males that don't have the affection/love of a woman, and cant seem to find it.
So
involuntary single, or
involuntary lonely, or something like that... it's a much better denotation. Sex does come naturally anyway, when there is a stable functioning relationship. By removing sex from the definition of who we are, we are taking away the power women have; they wont be able to attack us anymore!
And by moving the topic on love and affection, we make ourselves more sympathetic to the public.
+1
BUT, It would be better to cut down some bad stuff. In detail:
- No more pedo, of any kind.
- Personally, I'd include loli in the list... but idk. Maybe give them a dedicated subforum, if you really want
- No more serious talks about raping this or that, but I'd allow rape jokes and humor
- No at any kind of discussions about ER, killing, torturing, kidnapping...
Suicide, instead, I'd allow it as general discussion, but no promoting or directly helping (too risky).
Genius post. I don't say that lightly.
Straight up temp ban faggots for postmaxxing on ID instead of just moving their shit threads to the sewers and giving them slaps on the wrist, getting tired of weebcels shitting up the place. Also ban escortcel dicussion, period. Bragging about railing a cheap syphilis-infested whore after paying her is still bragging. Lastly, ban ANYONE who is proven or exposed to have anywhere near Chad/Chadlite-tier looks. Hell even ban the atheistically normie faggots, you know the ones who claim to be "invisible", those cunts have most likely never been touched by a bully. Those are not incels, they are NOT one of us
I agree with the general idea here. If we were to adopt the definiton of incel proposed by
@Inn013c , then it makes sense that males with the looks would get the attention and affection that the rest of us don't. This means that all the good looking faggots who are here just to mog us and feel better about themselves can fuck right off, because they aren't fooling anyone with their bullshit when they say they can't get female attention. It must be chad arrogance that they think they can get what they want, including feeling alpha amongst a group of subhumans, so they come here to feel superior.
This definition of incel, however, does not validate a revival of the escortcel discussion, since hookers are visited mostly because you have no options, and incels have no options, else they'd be out there getting laid and going from relationship to relationship (or lay to lay). I'm against escortceling in principle, but I understand it as a necessary cope for some.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ban all IT and FDS discussion from Incel discussion and the lounge. It's sewer material
Abso-fucking-lutely.
It's extremely low IQ to be even talking about those morons. We live rent free in their heads. Why the fuck would you let them live rent free in yours by constantly making threads showcasing whatever retarded thread they make? Forget about those stupid troons. It's reddit aka pure fucking AIDS.
One sentence: Remove the racebait rule and allow hate speech as long as the user doesn't threaten anything illegal or doesn't target a specific member.
Yes. Free speech is of paramount importance, especially in today's internet where speech is increasingly policed and censored in more and more online spaces. People should be free to say whatever they want, including anything stupid enough to incriminate themselves according to the laws of their land (e.g., England has misogyny laws, so UKcels should exercise discretion when posting about female hatred, but they should still be free to post).
There are obvious limitations on free speech, such as threats directed towards individuals. But if some retardcel wants to post about his plans to go ER, and if the utterances of such statements are not against the laws where the site is hosted, then have at it, buddy boyo. Just don't be surprised if tactical teams take a battering ram to your front door and go George Floyd on your dumb ass.
At the end of the day, though, it's an incel forum, so if expressing your frustrations in this way is how you want to vent, do so at your own risk.
I agree that inceldom should be considered a trait that can be had by any male, truecell or not. The prospect of muh "you're not incel if you haven't busted your ass off in every which way possible for ugly roastie pussy in a 80/20 gynocentrist dating scene" is pure retardation. It's like trying to say some skinny african kid isn't "really starving" cause they don't eat bugs and feces when they could.
The involuntary aspect of inceldom isn't just genes, or socio-economic status, but also the ridiculous bluepill double standard of men needing to slave away to be perfect if they even hope to get a looksmatch because gynocentric culture is slowly shifting women's already warped expectations.
No regular guy can individually determine what the rest of his peers see as "his duty" to perform physically, profesionally, and intelectually.
Those are norms imposed by societal culture, that is outside of individual control. Trying within reason is one thing(like taking decent care of yourself, showering and exercise and trying to have a decent job to be financially independent etc.), but chasing current day roastie's delusionally high bar is another thing entirely.
Saying someone is not an incel cause they refuse to give their all for every attention-whoring, mind-game playing, suddenly ghosting, delusional cow is basically like saying "just try harder bruh, she doesn't owe you anything, but you owe it to her to give 110%
" and is paradoxically, pure Bluepill.
Everything you've said here is spot on, except this: inceldom is a state, not a trait.
rule 3: postmaxxers don't have a say in anything
Postmaxxers are a cancer of the forum.
My issue with this definition is that it is a little too broad. By this definition my dad is an incel.
As absurd as it sounds, incel = involuntary celibate. Your dad wasn't incel at one point, because you were born, but if he tries his hardest to get the affections of a woman and subsequently get laid (without paying for it) and fails, then yeah, he'd technically be incel. If we are being consistent, then this must follow.
We face the same issue with what is "the blackpill" as we do with what is an incel. Not only is the term not very clearly defined, but we have the added problem that people don't understand statistics. They think that the blackpill is a set of absolute immutable laws when they are all statistical inferences speaking about populations. People are unwilling to consider outliers or even to accept that in some cases someone who is tall will not do as well. And I say this as someone in the lower 15th percentile of height. Saying that there are outliers does not invalidate the height pill. By overly defining the blackpill and not talking about stats, we're just going to unleash massive ideological purity spiraling. We should try to have as general a definition as possible while still retaining the essence of the forum.
I've written about this and mentioned this already several times here. The "black pill" (TM) can be understood as a collection of scientific studies, facts (conclusions), and statistics spanning multiple disciplines, such as evolutionary psychology and biology, psychology, sociology, and economics even, that describes the realities pertaining to dating, male-female relations, attraction, and hypergamy/polygamy. The black pill, in more abstract and simple terms, refers to the fundamental, indivisible truth of something. The "black pill," as most users here understand it colloquially, is just lookism, but this is incomplete. Lookism i.e., the biases surrounding looks, and the resultant effects on dating and social life, and even professional life, is itself
a black pill, but it is not
the black pill.
The black pill is also not repackaged nihilism, as it is often misunderstood. "It's over" isn't some nihilistic mantra that's meant to encapsulate the nihilistic philosophical aspect of the black pill or whatever. It's just a catchy phrase that accurately and succinctly summarizes the practical everyday reality of being a black pilled incel and having the sobering awareness of our own inceldom and what that entails.