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Not only is the term not very clearly defined, but we have the added problem that people don't understand statistics. They think that the blackpill is a set of absolute immutable laws when they are all statistical inferences speaking about populations. People are unwilling to consider outliers or even to accept that in some cases someone who is tall will not do as well. And I say this as someone in the lower 15th percentile of height. Saying that there are outliers does not invalidate the height pill. By overly defining the blackpill and not talking about stats, we're just going to unleash massive ideological purity spiraling. We should try to have as general a definition as possible while still retaining the essence of the forum.
I think the blackpill is very well defined.
What you're correct about, and I already said that and it's also the point where I disagree with BlckPllPres, is that the blackpill is not the absolute truth and that there are exceptions. But it gives a good indication of what is true most of the time and I don't want to have to discuss bluepilled cherry picks and exceptions all the time.
 
>thinks "exposing" a 2021 greycel is something to brag about.

here are are my credentials:


for all your neurotic obsession over hunting down each and every other fakecel, i contributed to the catch of a much bigger fish than you could ever manage.
you want me to go through 4 pages, nigga? how about you link and / or quote the exact parts?

that thread was made by somebody else and you're not even in any of those screenshots. you just said "eh, i kinda expected this guy to be fakecel." still, kudos for not postmaxxing :feelshaha:
 
you want me to go through 4 pages, nigga? how about you link and / or quote the exact parts?

that thread was made by somebody else and you're not even in any of those screenshots. you just said "eh, i kinda expected this guy to be fakecel." still, kudos for not postmaxxing :feelshaha:
i linked the post that was brought up against him in the ban appeals and resulted in the ban. i dont expect you to go through the thread because i already know that you're a clueless newfag that knows nothing about the event in the first place, thanks for further reinforcing my point that 2020+ nobodies shouldn't speak about forum rules when they dont even have the reference of past fakecel cases to go off of.
 
i linked the post that was brought up against him in the ban appeals and resulted in the ban. i dont expect you to go through the thread because i already know that you're a clueless newfag that knows nothing about the event in the first place, thanks for further reinforcing my point that 2020+ nobodies shouldn't speak about forum rules when they dont even have the reference of past fakecel cases to go off of.
why should i know in the first place? :feelshaha: just give attention to fakecels who are already banned theory.

just fucking lol @ using the excuse that i'm a newfag. nigga, i'm 5'4 and ugly. i belong here, watch you be some slightly below average dude or some shit.
 
no agecucks would be a great rule
Condemning molestation of girls who are 10 years old is NOT agecuckery

if you say that an 18 year old is a child that’s agecuckery though
 
Yes, or at least, make it more clear.
How about we define "Incel" in the broadest way, similar to the one I proposed, and then have many sub labels/categories? This would solve the issue, uniting all of us males more, and giving us a higher chance of getting approved and endorsed by society someday in the future.

Yes, or at least, make it more clear.

- Is somebody who goes to escorts an incel? Since he cleary isn't celibate. (celibate = someone who doesn't have sex)
- Is somebody who had sexual experience and gfs in the past an incel because he has been single for X amount of time?
- Can somebody who never made efforts to engage with women be an incel? Or doesn't that make him a Volcel (voluntary celibate) since he never even tried getting out of celibate?
- Is somebody who only wants a 8/10 virgin and refuses to engage with any woman lower than that still an incel? Or doesn't that make him a Volcel, since he voluntarily refuses to date anything below his ridiculous standards?
- Is somebody who receives interest from women, but for some reason cannot start a relationship with them an incel?
- Is somebody who is good looking and tall enough to attract women but for some reason can't get a gf an incel or just an idiot who is too dumb to utilize his assets?

Or is it all up for interpretation?
Can "being incel" even be defined?
This really is a tough one, since no matter how you define incel, there will always be somebody who disagrees with you.
It seems to me that the simpler the main concept is, the better, otherwise people might get confused.

Also if someone feels to belong in here, acknowledging us as brocels, without nor bragging nor mocking but actually helping us... then why should we not welcome him? Imo, we should definitely greet him! It's exactly these people that we need!! The ones loving and caring, the ones capable of getting the sympathy of people and society.
 
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no agecucks would be a great rule
Ban everyone who uses the words "agecuck" and "moralfag" to feign righteous indignation and veil their pedophilia. You fedposting turds will attract heat and doom the forum. Go talk about your love of sex with children elsewhere. Stop piggybacking on to incel forums like fucking parasites and viruses.

Fucking degenerates.

Crack down HARD on what it is to be a braggart/fakecel. At least so I know where we stand.
Braggart is pretty straightforward. Fakecel is going to depend on how the forum settles on the definition of incel.

Define incel for once and for all.
This is probably the most important order of business, first and foremost. This is, after all, an incel forum.

It's probably done a little on purpose. The more rules you have, the more censorship and abuse associated with them... which throws people off. It's a delicate matter.


Personally, I believe it should encompass all males, and not just sex. The perfect definition imo would be: incels are males that don't have the affection/love of a woman, and cant seem to find it.

So involuntary single, or involuntary lonely, or something like that... it's a much better denotation. Sex does come naturally anyway, when there is a stable functioning relationship. By removing sex from the definition of who we are, we are taking away the power women have; they wont be able to attack us anymore!

And by moving the topic on love and affection, we make ourselves more sympathetic to the public.

+1

BUT, It would be better to cut down some bad stuff. In detail:
  • No more pedo, of any kind.
    • Personally, I'd include loli in the list... but idk. Maybe give them a dedicated subforum, if you really want
  • No more serious talks about raping this or that, but I'd allow rape jokes and humor
  • No at any kind of discussions about ER, killing, torturing, kidnapping...
Suicide, instead, I'd allow it as general discussion, but no promoting or directly helping (too risky).
Genius post. I don't say that lightly.

Straight up temp ban faggots for postmaxxing on ID instead of just moving their shit threads to the sewers and giving them slaps on the wrist, getting tired of weebcels shitting up the place. Also ban escortcel dicussion, period. Bragging about railing a cheap syphilis-infested whore after paying her is still bragging. Lastly, ban ANYONE who is proven or exposed to have anywhere near Chad/Chadlite-tier looks. Hell even ban the atheistically normie faggots, you know the ones who claim to be "invisible", those cunts have most likely never been touched by a bully. Those are not incels, they are NOT one of us
I agree with the general idea here. If we were to adopt the definiton of incel proposed by @Inn013c , then it makes sense that males with the looks would get the attention and affection that the rest of us don't. This means that all the good looking faggots who are here just to mog us and feel better about themselves can fuck right off, because they aren't fooling anyone with their bullshit when they say they can't get female attention. It must be chad arrogance that they think they can get what they want, including feeling alpha amongst a group of subhumans, so they come here to feel superior.

This definition of incel, however, does not validate a revival of the escortcel discussion, since hookers are visited mostly because you have no options, and incels have no options, else they'd be out there getting laid and going from relationship to relationship (or lay to lay). I'm against escortceling in principle, but I understand it as a necessary cope for some.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ban all IT and FDS discussion from Incel discussion and the lounge. It's sewer material
Abso-fucking-lutely.

It's extremely low IQ to be even talking about those morons. We live rent free in their heads. Why the fuck would you let them live rent free in yours by constantly making threads showcasing whatever retarded thread they make? Forget about those stupid troons. It's reddit aka pure fucking AIDS.

One sentence: Remove the racebait rule and allow hate speech as long as the user doesn't threaten anything illegal or doesn't target a specific member.
Yes. Free speech is of paramount importance, especially in today's internet where speech is increasingly policed and censored in more and more online spaces. People should be free to say whatever they want, including anything stupid enough to incriminate themselves according to the laws of their land (e.g., England has misogyny laws, so UKcels should exercise discretion when posting about female hatred, but they should still be free to post).

There are obvious limitations on free speech, such as threats directed towards individuals. But if some retardcel wants to post about his plans to go ER, and if the utterances of such statements are not against the laws where the site is hosted, then have at it, buddy boyo. Just don't be surprised if tactical teams take a battering ram to your front door and go George Floyd on your dumb ass.

At the end of the day, though, it's an incel forum, so if expressing your frustrations in this way is how you want to vent, do so at your own risk.

I agree that inceldom should be considered a trait that can be had by any male, truecell or not. The prospect of muh "you're not incel if you haven't busted your ass off in every which way possible for ugly roastie pussy in a 80/20 gynocentrist dating scene" is pure retardation. It's like trying to say some skinny african kid isn't "really starving" cause they don't eat bugs and feces when they could.
The involuntary aspect of inceldom isn't just genes, or socio-economic status, but also the ridiculous bluepill double standard of men needing to slave away to be perfect if they even hope to get a looksmatch because gynocentric culture is slowly shifting women's already warped expectations.
No regular guy can individually determine what the rest of his peers see as "his duty" to perform physically, profesionally, and intelectually.
Those are norms imposed by societal culture, that is outside of individual control. Trying within reason is one thing(like taking decent care of yourself, showering and exercise and trying to have a decent job to be financially independent etc.), but chasing current day roastie's delusionally high bar is another thing entirely.
Saying someone is not an incel cause they refuse to give their all for every attention-whoring, mind-game playing, suddenly ghosting, delusional cow is basically like saying "just try harder bruh, she doesn't owe you anything, but you owe it to her to give 110% :feelstastyman:" and is paradoxically, pure Bluepill.
Everything you've said here is spot on, except this: inceldom is a state, not a trait.

rule 3: postmaxxers don't have a say in anything
Postmaxxers are a cancer of the forum.

My issue with this definition is that it is a little too broad. By this definition my dad is an incel.
As absurd as it sounds, incel = involuntary celibate. Your dad wasn't incel at one point, because you were born, but if he tries his hardest to get the affections of a woman and subsequently get laid (without paying for it) and fails, then yeah, he'd technically be incel. If we are being consistent, then this must follow.

We face the same issue with what is "the blackpill" as we do with what is an incel. Not only is the term not very clearly defined, but we have the added problem that people don't understand statistics. They think that the blackpill is a set of absolute immutable laws when they are all statistical inferences speaking about populations. People are unwilling to consider outliers or even to accept that in some cases someone who is tall will not do as well. And I say this as someone in the lower 15th percentile of height. Saying that there are outliers does not invalidate the height pill. By overly defining the blackpill and not talking about stats, we're just going to unleash massive ideological purity spiraling. We should try to have as general a definition as possible while still retaining the essence of the forum.
I've written about this and mentioned this already several times here. The "black pill" (TM) can be understood as a collection of scientific studies, facts (conclusions), and statistics spanning multiple disciplines, such as evolutionary psychology and biology, psychology, sociology, and economics even, that describes the realities pertaining to dating, male-female relations, attraction, and hypergamy/polygamy. The black pill, in more abstract and simple terms, refers to the fundamental, indivisible truth of something. The "black pill," as most users here understand it colloquially, is just lookism, but this is incomplete. Lookism i.e., the biases surrounding looks, and the resultant effects on dating and social life, and even professional life, is itself a black pill, but it is not the black pill.

The black pill is also not repackaged nihilism, as it is often misunderstood. "It's over" isn't some nihilistic mantra that's meant to encapsulate the nihilistic philosophical aspect of the black pill or whatever. It's just a catchy phrase that accurately and succinctly summarizes the practical everyday reality of being a black pilled incel and having the sobering awareness of our own inceldom and what that entails.
 
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Condemning molestation of girls who are 10 years old is NOT agecuckery

if you say that an 18 year old is a child that’s agecuckery though
if you think a 10 year old girl can have sex with 10 year old boys, but you also think a 16 year old guy cant fuck her, then you are an agecuck
 
Braggart is pretty straightforward. Fakecel is going to depend on how the forum settles on the definition of incel.

Is it? Because people keep making excuses like "Oh, I'm sure she was just being polite." Whereas most of us don't even get that.
 
if you think a 10 year old girl can have sex with 10 year old boys, but you also think a 16 year old guy cant fuck her, then you are an agecuck
10 year olds shouldn’t have sex at all
 
Is it? Because people keep making excuses like "Oh, I'm sure she was just being polite." Whereas most of us don't even get that.
@gymletethnicel :feelskek::feelshaha::feelsgah:

You're still sticking to your guns on what happened in that thread, aren't you? That you think it was a sincere compliment?
 
For the love of god no more IT spam
 
@gymletethnicel :feelskek::feelshaha::feelsgah:

You're still sticking to your guns on what happened in that thread, aren't you? That you think it was a sincere compliment?

I've stuck to "worse" guns. I don't know what world you guys are living in, but women just don't talk to me like that. Ever. EVER.
 
ban ANYONE who is proven or exposed to have anywhere near Chad/Chadlite-tier looks. Hell even ban the atheistically normie faggots, you know the ones who claim to be "invisible", those cunts have most likely never been touched by a bully. Those are not incels, they are NOT one of us
 
Maintain the current rules for now, though I would support more detailed guidance as to ensure the consistent application of those rules.

What we need to do is step up moderation of and monitor suspicious posters.
 
open up the sewers for unlimited postmaxxing and drop the 10 second timer :smonk:
 
ban all kisshavers
 
disable post count in sewers
 
ban appeals shouldn't be given on specific cases like trolls, soycuck bluepillers, larpers, fakecels, etc.

post count in sewers shouldn't be given to new users, they have to get a good ammount of posts in ID/lounge before (2000? 5000?). or maybe make it based on join date (e.g having to wait for your account to be at least 1 year old before being able to have your posts count in the sewers
IP ban India
welcome back nigga
 
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I Like it how it Is so far there are less Warnings at play what IS good

In the Past you Got Warnings for the pettiest Shit . Anyways give greycel a Postlimit that They have to Resch in a month or They get banned. There are to many greycels infiltrating this Forum lately

Lets say They should reach 300 Posts in a month thats 10/D i think thats doable.
 
@Fat Link

Taking everything everyone said into account. If there's one thing you listen to, let it be this.

Allowing normies and chads onto the website will be the DEATH of this place. This place is callled INCELS.CO not BLACKPILL.CO.

Does it really make sense to have people who are capable of obtaining sex to post alongside people who can't? You see the fuckery that was looksmax?

Be warry of the 2021 "cels" who are pushing for us to just accept anyone with open arms. I've been seeing it a lot in these discussions.

Rules need to be made to keep bullshit people out, and if we keep broadening the rules for who's allowed like serge did, were going to get a shittier state of what the site is today
 
Ban escortcel cucks for shaming incels for not being like them.
Ban pedocels at the first instance of discussing underage girls sexually.
Higher the minimum age of members allowed to make accounts to 18.
 
Over the past few days, I have given the rules a look. While they seem solid, it seems like it leaves a lot undefined. Don't know if this is on purpose, or left up to interpretation by the staff. I'd like to see some changes to rules that better complement the culture of the forum.

If you have any good ideas for any changes to the rules, please post them below.
Remove any illegal comment or post so we don't go to jail pls? Sometimes is hard to control ourselves in some mattERs.

Remove illegal stuff but don't ban the users, only ban users who spam illegal stuff willingly.
 
@Fat Link

Taking everything everyone said into account. If there's one thing you listen to, let it be this.

Allowing normies and chads onto the website will be the DEATH of this place. This place is callled INCELS.CO not BLACKPILL.CO.

Does it really make sense to have people who are capable of obtaining sex to post alongside people who can't? You see the fuckery that was looksmax?

Be warry of the 2021 "cels" who are pushing for us to just accept anyone with open arms. I've been seeing it a lot in these discussions.

Rules need to be made to keep bullshit people out, and if we keep broadening the rules for who's allowed like serge did, were going to get a shittier state of what the site is today
The seeds of that fuckery have already been planted. Go check the ban discussion thread. Fakecels and their friends backing them up.
 
The seeds of that fuckery have already been planted. Go check the ban discussion thread. Fakecels and their friends backing them up.
I honestly hope they can see through the bullshit. Serge was a lost cause, but i have hope for these two
 
no agecucks would be a great rule
No feminists/whiteknights would already take care of that.

@Fat Link @Infinity I would like to bring to your attention the fact that almost 90% of the userbase voted that agecucking is whiteknighting (which has been against the rules already for most of this site's history).

The previous administration rejected threads I did on the suggestions section about that.

 
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No feminists/whiteknights would already take care of that.

@Fat Link @Infinity I would like to bring to your attention the fact that almost 90% of the userbase voted that agecucking is whiteknighting (which has been against the rules already for most of this site's history).

The previous administration ignored threads I did on the suggestions section about that.

im gonna make a thread similar to that, as new userbase, more up to date results
 
the less censorship the better.
It's fine the way it is now.

There's no need to do much of anything. Just maybe make some adult areas and cut down on postnaxx spam.

Just clean the shit off the floor before. It gets stained.

Right now it's a game here. Keep it serious but fun. Obvious retards should be kicked.

Pretty much my opinion on the matter.
 
the less censorship the better.
Agreed. But foids and bluepillers need to be BTFO immediately. They have nothing new to say that we haven’t heard before, and will probabaly start unironically memeing the various empty platitudes that we meme about.
 
Rules are fine, don't change anything.
 
Over the past few days, I have given the rules a look. While they seem solid, it seems like it leaves a lot undefined. Don't know if this is on purpose, or left up to interpretation by the staff. I'd like to see some changes to rules that better complement the culture of the forum.

If you have any good ideas for any changes to the rules, please post them below.
If it's not a rule already, remove any uploaded videos of any users committing violence against others themselves or promoting the future act of doing so at a later time. We don't want this forum to be associated with promoting or endorsing violence so they can utilize that against us as a part of their latest political propaganda campaigns. That's the last thing this forum needs right now. :feelsthink::yes:
 
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If it's not a rule already, remove any uploaded videos of any users committing violence against others themselves or promoting the future act of doing so at a later time. We don't want this forum to be associated with promoting or endorsing violence so they can utilize that against us as a part of their latest political propaganda campaigns. That's the last thing this forum needs right now. :feelsthink::yes:
That in itself is very contentious
 
another thing. GrAYcels shouldn't be allowed to make retarded datamining poll threads. It's not rare to see 50 sub post GrAYFAGS making multiple threads asking generic questions with polll included, while at the same time not providing anything of value to the forum such as posting history about thier lives as incels or even discussing blackpill. They just come here and post glownigger polls.
 
Over f
another thing. GrAYcels shouldn't be allowed to make retarded datamining poll threads. It's not rare to see 50 sub post GrAYFAGS making multiple threads asking generic questions with polll included, while at the same time not providing anything of value to the forum such as posting history about thier lives as incels or even discussing blackpill. They just come here and post glownigger polls.
for paranoiacels
 
Over f

for paranoiacels
We all know it's true. It's quite fucking obvious, especially when there's a known history of people coming to this site for research purposes.
 
Over f

for paranoiacels
you haven't seen anyone doing what i described? i just saw someone doing that today. i think i've seen at least 4 graycels doing this in total
 
you haven't seen anyone doing what i described? i just saw someone doing that today. i think i've seen at least 4 graycels doing this in total
The guy you're quoting did it at one point.

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Only White people should be allowed on .is. :smonk:
 
Over the past few days, I have given the rules a look. While they seem solid, it seems like it leaves a lot undefined. Don't know if this is on purpose, or left up to interpretation by the staff. I'd like to see some changes to rules that better complement the culture of the forum.

If you have any good ideas for any changes to the rules, please post them below.
Purge underage faggots :feelswhat:
 
Is Master still posting on Twitter or has someone else taken over the Incel.is Twitter account?
 
If I may make a suggestion - don't allow anyone under 18 to join.

If someone is around the same age (or younger) than his peers lose virginity, then is he really an incel or just a normie who's going to ascend at a proper time?

Also it's bad for them to hang around here.

Also, it's bad optics to have underagecels here, given the content.

Also, we won't have to read shit like this:
Ex incel


Grandfather in existing underagecels.
 

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