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Over the past few days, I have given the rules a look. While they seem solid, it seems like it leaves a lot undefined. Don't know if this is on purpose, or left up to interpretation by the staff. I'd like to see some changes to rules that better complement the culture of the forum.

If you have any good ideas for any changes to the rules, please post them below.
 
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Crack down HARD on what it is to be a braggart/fakecel. At least so I know where we stand.
 
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no agecucks would be a great rule
 
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Also, now that Sarge and Master are gone, maybe, just maybe, it's time for a revote on the escortcel issue. I don't think opinions have changed that much, if at all, but let's see.
 
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Rules against edgy IT-baiting content (especially in ID)?

 
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Define incel for once and for all.
 
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CWCville gentrifier said:
Rules against edgy IT-baiting content (especially in ID)?

That's what I'd call for, but I don't think the current administration is for it. The current administration came in to protect the right to say edgy/horrifying things on the Internet without fear of being doxxed.
EDIT: On the other hand, when people start posting naked children just to get a rise out of people, maybe that's a step too far. The new Sarge is some kinda Nazi, right? I hear Neo-Nazis are very much against the sexualizing of children.
 
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Infinity said:
Over the past few days, I have given the rules a look. While they seem solid, it seems like it leaves a lot undefined. Don't know if this is on purpose, or left up to interpretation by the staff. I'd like to see some changes to rules that better complement the culture of the forum.

If you have any good ideas for any changes to the rules, please post them below.
I am working on a document to submit to you as you were crafting this topic most likely my friend but yes it’s important for the users to have a say in how their community is run moving forward so let’s hear it! :hax:
 
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BornToLose said:
Define incel for once and for all.
:yes:We need this, by "official" definition is someone who no matter what he do he cant get a romantic sexual partner, we have many guys here getting matches and going on a dates. As we know normies struggle in dating world but its not impossible for them which refutes entire involuntary in the word incel, are standardcels and volcels allowed? Imo they are the same as femcels so might as well allow femcels also. Also define Mentalcel? if someone is non NT and socially awkward thats not an excuse, being non functioning is.

Other thing is the bluepill talk allowed, being incel and blackpilled doesn't necessarily go hand in hand, we have guys here saying blackpill is bullshit but we also have guys who hide behind the blackpill to larp as incels.

Should edgelords be banned, we all have some sick dreams but no one has to share them in ID, maybe in lounge or Bunker should be allowed.
 
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I agree

Only real incels and truecels should be here.
Also you have to accept the blackpill 100%. Lately I've seen members here (probably fakecels) say that dogpill and dickpill aren't real. What's next, denying heightpill? We need to gatekeep, we can't allow blackpill/inceldom to become watered down.
 
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I think you should ban everyone you don't agree with. And make everyone act like everyone else. Only misery and heartache shall be promoted. Nothing hopeful or related to escape should be allowed. Everything anti female should be promoted no matter how silly. Mother hate should be encouraged. Anyone that posts mgtow or redpill pua stuff should be banned retroactively. Avis or icos with female photo or pictures should be banned retroactively too! Even cartoon pussies should be hated! Whoremongers that have had sex within a 20 year Windows should and be banned retroactively!

There's more but my thumb hurts
 
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the less censorship the better.
 
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Emba said:
I think you should ban everyone you don't agree with. And make everyone act like everyone else. Only misery and heartache shall be promoted. Nothing hopeful or related to escape should be allowed. Everything anti female should be promoted no matter how silly. Mother hate should be encouraged. Anyone that posts mgtow or redpill pua stuff should be banned retroactively. Avis or icos with female photo or pictures should be banned retroactively too! Even cartoon pussies should be hated! Whoremongers that have had sex within a 20 year Windows should and be banned retroactively!

There's more but my thumb hurts
Now, now if we act the fool by not banning anyone or anything and eschew judgement at every turn because we don’t want to become censor mongers like the redditors we’ll only end up ultimately self destructing in another way by just letting any ol person with any old view join and before you know it the forum will be overrun with trannies and troons and communist loons like my home site Wizchan was and r9k for that matter.

The wise old adage applies here: “A man that won’t stand for something will fall for anything”.

My idiot ex friend Grotesque from our community found that out well enough when he told me he basically hated all forms of moderation and just wanted to see drama and fighting.

Well how’d that work out for him when he tried to run a large Shitscord group?

It didn’t.

It naturally imploded upon him.

Moderation and or policing may on some level be an evil but they are a necessary one to maintain order. :feelsbaton:
 
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Just like looks shaming isn’t allowed which is a rule I agree with since looks are out of your control, this is the same case with disabilities so I believe disability shaming should be against the rules too.
 
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Fat Link said:
Now, now if we act the fool by not banning anyone or anything and eschew judgement at every turn because we don’t want to become censor mongers like the redditors we’ll only end up ultimately self destructing in another way by just letting any ol person with any old view join and before you know it the forum will be overrun with trannies and troons and communist loons like my home site Wizchan and r9k for that matter.

The wise old adage applies here: “A man that won’t stand for something will fall for anything”.

My idiot ex friend Grotesque from our community found that out well when he told me he basically hated all forms of moderation and just wanted to see drama and fighting.

Well how’d that work out for him when he tried to run a large Shitscord group?

It didn’t.

It naturally imploded upon him.

Moderation and or policing may on some level be an evil but they are a necessary one to maintain order. :feelsbaton:
You misunderstood my gist.

It's fine the way it is now.

There's no need to do much of anything. Just maybe make some adult areas and cut down on postnaxx spam.

Just clean the shit off the floor before. It gets stained.

Right now it's a game here. Keep it serious but fun. Obvious retards should be kicked.

"XD!"
 
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Emba said:
You misunderstood my gist.

It's fine the way it is now.

There's no need to do much of anything. Just maybe make some adult areas and cut down on postnaxx spam.

Just clean the shit off the floor before. It gets stained.

Right now it's a game here. Keep it serious but fun. Obvious retards should be kicked.

"XD!"
Oh ok my bad playa. :hax:
 
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Draestyn said:
no agecucks would be a great rule
Get fucked pedo, join your hero Dr Pizza cel
 
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Infinity said:
Over the past few days, I have given the rules a look. While they seem solid, it seems like it leaves a lot undefined. Don't know if this is on purpose, or left up to interpretation by the staff. I'd like to see some changes to rules that better complement the culture of the forum.

If you have any good ideas for any changes to the rules, please post them below.
It's probably done a little on purpose. The more rules you have, the more censorship and abuse associated with them... which throws people off. It's a delicate matter.

BornToLose said:
Define incel for once and for all.
Personally, I believe it should encompass all males, and not just sex. The perfect definition imo would be: incels are males that don't have the affection/love of a woman, and cant seem to find it.

So involuntary single, or involuntary lonely, or something like that... it's a much better denotation. Sex does come naturally anyway, when there is a stable functioning relationship. By removing sex from the definition of who we are, we are taking away the power women have; they wont be able to attack us anymore!

And by moving the topic on love and affection, we make ourselves more sympathetic to the public.
Mountainbikecel said:
the less censorship the better.
+1

BUT, It would be better to cut down some bad stuff. In detail:
  • No more pedo, of any kind.
    • Personally, I'd include loli in the list... but idk. Maybe give them a dedicated subforum, if you really want
  • No more serious talks about raping this or that, but I'd allow rape jokes and humor
  • No at any kind of discussions about ER, killing, torturing, kidnapping...
Suicide, instead, I'd allow it as general discussion, but no promoting or directly helping (too risky).
 
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FuRed said:
Get fucked pedo, join your hero Dr Pizza cel
keep crying for me
 
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Inn013c said:
It's probably done a little on purpose. The more rules you have, the more censorship and abuse associated with them... which throws people off. It's a delicate matter.


Personally, I believe it should encompass all males, and not just sex. The perfect definition imo would be: incels are males that don't have the affection/love of a woman, and cant seem to find it.

So involuntary single, or involuntary lonely, or some thing like that... it's a much better denotation. Sex does come naturally anyway, when there is a functioning relationship. By removing sex from the definition of who we are, we are taking away the power women have; they wont not be able to attack us anymore!

And by moving the topic on love and affection, we make ourselves more sympathetic to the overall population.

+1

BUT, It would be better to cut down some bad stuff. In detail:
  • No more pedo, of any kind.
    • Personally, I'd include loli in the list... but idk. Maybe give them a dedicated subforum, if you really want
  • No more serious talks about raping this or that, but I'd allow rape jokes and humor
  • No discussions about ER and generally killing people (...)
Highest IQ post I’ve seen this month probably. :hax:

With your permission I will add the relevant parts of it to our updated 2022 upcoming rule set?! :panties:
 
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Fat Link said:
With your permission I will add the relevant parts of it to our updated 2022 upcoming rule set?! :panties:
Yeah, sure, take anything you like. It was just some raw ideas
 
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Straight up temp ban faggots for postmaxxing on ID instead of just moving their shit threads to the sewers and giving them slaps on the wrist, getting tired of weebcels shitting up the place. Also ban escortcel dicussion, period. Bragging about railing a cheap syphilis-infested whore after paying her is still bragging. Lastly, ban ANYONE who is proven or exposed to have anywhere near Chad/Chadlite-tier looks. Hell even ban the atheistically normie faggots, you know the ones who claim to be "invisible", those cunts have most likely never been touched by a bully. Those are not incels, they are NOT one of us
 
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Clarify bragging more. For instance if mentioning someone talked with a foid or went on a date considered bragging or not etc. Some are open to interpretation.
 
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ban all IT and FDS discussion from Incel discussion and the lounge. It's sewer material
 
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mentalcel said:
mentioning someone talked with a foid
no we are incels. its a big deal for us. not brag
mentalcel said:
went on a date
yes. we are incels. its a big deal for us. yes brag
 
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One sentence: Remove the racebait rule and allow hate speech as long as the user doesn't threaten anything illegal or doesn't target a specific member.
 
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Kuuro said:
no we are incels. its a big deal for us. not brag

yes. we are incels. its a big deal for us. yes brag
I mean if someone is not getting laid or not getting relatioships he is still an incel no matter how close or far from women or whatever interaction they had. I understand someone might get in jail when asking an address to a woman while other might be like in friendzone but still not able to get laid. Both share their experiences. Is one bragging? Although I think making threads like I made this body in gym and such is definitely bragging.
 
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Inn013c said:
It's probably done a little on purpose. The more rules you have, the more censorship and abuse associated with them... which throws people off. It's a delicate matter.


Personally, I believe it should encompass all males, and not just sex. The perfect definition imo would be: incels are males that don't have the affection/love of a woman, and cant seem to find it.

So involuntary single, or involuntary lonely, or something like that... it's a much better denotation. Sex does come naturally anyway, when there is a stable functioning relationship. By removing sex from the definition of who we are, we are taking away the power women have; they wont be able to attack us anymore!

And by moving the topic on love and affection, we make ourselves more sympathetic to the public.

+1

BUT, It would be better to cut down some bad stuff. In detail:
  • No more pedo, of any kind.
    • Personally, I'd include loli in the list... but idk. Maybe give them a dedicated subforum, if you really want
  • No more serious talks about raping this or that, but I'd allow rape jokes and humor
  • No at any kind of discussions about ER, killing, torturing, kidnapping...
Suicide, instead, I'd allow it as general discussion, but no promoting or directly helping (too risky).
I agree that inceldom should be considered a trait that can be had by any male, truecell or not. The prospect of muh "you're not incel if you haven't busted your ass off in every which way possible for ugly roastie pussy in a 80/20 gynocentrist dating scene" is pure retardation. It's like trying to say some skinny african kid isn't "really starving" cause they don't eat bugs and feces when they could.
The involuntary aspect of inceldom isn't just genes, or socio-economic status, but also the ridiculous bluepill double standard of men needing to slave away to be perfect if they even hope to get a looksmatch because gynocentric culture is slowly shifting women's already warped expectations.
No regular guy can individually determine what the rest of his peers see as "his duty" to perform physically, profesionally, and intelectually.
Those are norms imposed by societal culture, that is outside of individual control. Trying within reason is one thing(like taking decent care of yourself, showering and exercise and trying to have a decent job to be financially independent etc.), but chasing current day roastie's delusionally high bar is another thing entirely.
Saying someone is not an incel cause they refuse to give their all for every attention-whoring, mind-game playing, suddenly ghosting, delusional cow is basically like saying "just try harder bruh, she doesn't owe you anything, but you owe it to her to give 110% :feelstastyman:" and is paradoxically, pure Bluepill.
 
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ban the incels they're super mysogynistic and is ruining the forum 4 us LARPers, chads and teenagers
 
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BornToLose said:
Define incel for once and for all.
Youre so unattractive [due to e.g being a manlet, having a deformed face,] that 99.999999999999% of girls dont wanna be in a sexual relationship with you.
 
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Ban everyone with an anime avi and have made more than 5000 posts in the sewers tbh
 
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SlayerSlayer said:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ban all IT and FDS discussion from Incel discussion and the lounge. It's sewer material
Aadi said:
IP ban India
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mahniqqa said:
I agree that inceldom should be considered a trait that can be had by any male, truecell or not. The prospect of muh "you're not incel if you haven't busted your ass off in every which way possible for ugly roastie pussy in a 80/20 gynocentrist dating scene" is pure retardation. It's like trying to say some skinny african kid isn't "really starving" cause they don't eat bugs and feces when they could.
The involuntary aspect of inceldom isn't just genes, or socio-economic status, but also the ridiculous bluepill double standard of men needing to slave away to be perfect if they even hope to get a looksmatch because gynocentric culture is slowly shifting women's already warped expectations.
No regular guy can individually determine what the rest of his peers see as "his duty" to perform physically, profesionally, and intelectually.
Those are norms imposed by societal culture, that is outside of individual control. Trying within reason is one thing(like taking decent care of yourself, showering and exercise and trying to have a decent job to be financially independent etc.), but chasing current day roastie's delusionally high bar is another thing entirely.
Saying someone is not an incel cause they refuse to give their all for every attention-whoring, mind-game playing, suddenly ghosting, delusional cow is basically like saying "just try harder bruh, she doesn't owe you anything, but you owe it to her to give 110% :feelstastyman:" and is paradoxically, pure Bluepill.
Volcel if you’re not in a betabux relationship with someone who you call your wife who also has a boyfriend.
 
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rule 1: 2021cels shouldn't have a say in what kind of rules are implemented.

rule 2: ban agecucks and moralfags
 
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unsettling said:
rule 1: 2021cels shouldn't have a say in what kind of rules are implemented.

rule 2: ban agecucks and moralfags
rule 3: postmaxxers don't have a say in anything
 
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iamsubhuman said:
rule 3: postmaxxers don't have a say in anything
 
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iamsubhuman said:
rule 3: postmaxxers don't have a say in anything
also exclude irrelevant 2020 newfags
 
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unsettling said:
also exclude 2020 newfags
you mean include, postmaxxer? :feelshaha:
 
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Disable postcount in Sewers, crack down on shitty low effort threads in ID/Lounge.
 
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unsettling said:
also exclude irrelevant 2020 newfags
damn, you must be an og incel, the way you don't contribute the threads and only reply with :blackpill::redpill::whitepill:
 
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iamsubhuman said:
damn, you must be an og incel, the way you don't contribute the threads and only reply with :blackpill::redpill::whitepill:
youre still a newfag. and your posts are not anything remarkable either.
 
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unsettling said:
youre still a newfag. and your posts are not anything remarkable either.
posts: 80,000
creator of the thread with the most amount of posts in the sewers :feelshaha:

let me know when you expose somebody like mistersinister instead of just replying with :blackpill::redpill::whitepill:

i'm probably more incel than you are, retard
 
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While I haven't posted as much here as in the discord group, which I now moderate, I am looking forward to spend more time here and have some opinions on the rules.

I honestly think the rules are good as is - mostly. Narrowly defining what an incel is doesn't make sense to me considering the term is still pretty flexible. Even talking with Cocklord and several members of the discord we couldn't agree on whether inceldom was based on actual virginity or lack of sexual validation. There were too many edge cases either way to say definitively. Let me throw some examples. Is a guy who has sex every weekend with hookers really an incel? That guy has probably had more sexual partners than most men who have lived. And some very attractive men have sex with prostitutes almost exclusively. On the other end, many divorcess never have validating sexual relationships. Does that make MGTOWs incel? And if we were to measure inceldom based on whether a person could potentially have sex or a fulfilling relationship, how do we measure that exactly? Are we going to start telling schizophrenics who may have spent years in a mental hospital that they're actually totally normies? All of these feel somewhat wrong to me.

As a forum I beleive we should allow rigorous debate on these topics. I think people here sometimes get to caught up in inadvertent purity spiraling and just want to call anyone who isn't them a fakecel. I think we should have them most general definition possible while still being exclusive enough to retain the identity of the forum.

Second, we need to ban pedophiles. In my mind they are not incels at all. They're not attracted to adult women and have no desire to be with one. So then why are they here? They don't related to our struggles at all. Their presence just makes us look bad by associating us with one of the most hated minorities of all time for literally no benefit. We are not one struggle. Pedos have all kinds of forums they can go to. I see no reason for them to specifically be here.

Sorry that was long, but those were just some of my thoughts.
 
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BornToLose said:
Define incel for once and for all.
Yes, or at least, make it more clear.

- Is somebody who goes to escorts an incel? Since he cleary isn't celibate. (celibate = someone who doesn't have sex)
- Is somebody who had sexual experience and gfs in the past an incel because he has been single for X amount of time?
- Can somebody who never made efforts to engage with women be an incel? Or doesn't that make him a Volcel (voluntary celibate) since he never even tried getting out of celibate?
- Is somebody who only wants a 8/10 virgin and refuses to engage with any woman lower than that still an incel? Or doesn't that make him a Volcel, since he voluntarily refuses to date anything below his ridiculous standards?
- Is somebody who receives interest from women, but for some reason cannot start a relationship with them an incel?
- Is somebody who is good looking and tall enough to attract women but for some reason can't get a gf an incel or just an idiot who is too dumb to utilize his assets?

Or is it all up for interpretation?
Can "being incel" even be defined?
This really is a tough one, since no matter how you define incel, there will always be somebody who disagrees with you.

CWCville gentrifier said:
Rules against edgy IT-baiting content (especially in ID)?

Inn013c said:
BUT, It would be better to cut down some bad stuff. In detail:
  • No more pedo, of any kind.
    • Personally, I'd include loli in the list... but idk. Maybe give them a dedicated subforum, if you really want
  • No more serious talks about raping this or that, but I'd allow rape jokes and humor
  • No at any kind of discussions about ER, killing, torturing, kidnapping...
Suicide, instead, I'd allow it as general discussion, but no promoting or directly helping (too risky).

We have to be careful here. Freedom of speech is the most important thing.
But:
Your freedom of speech ends, where personal rights of others begin.

I have no problem with people who want to discuss their violent/pedo/rape fantasy in a thoughtful and mannered way.
Talking about it is not illegal.
But if you just shit out a one-liner low effort thread into ID, in which you have nothing to say, but only encourage brainless violence/rape/pedophilia and bait others into posting brainless borderline illegal things, that's where I draw the line.
It puts all other incels in a bad spotlight and just gets us negative public attention, no mentally stable incel wants or deserves that.

So yes, low effort bait threads need to be forbidden, but I don't think you should forbid these topics in general.

Wellington said:
What's next, denying heightpill?
That's already happening, lmao.

Wellington said:
Also you have to accept the blackpill 100%. Lately I've seen members here (probably fakecels) say that dogpill and dickpill aren't real. What's next, denying heightpill? We need to gatekeep, we can't allow blackpill/inceldom to become watered down.
You're right, very true and very important.
We are currently more busy with argueing bluepillers about the blackpill than we are busy developing the blackpill.
I had a moment not to long ago, where I was linking the Incel Wiki to explain the dogpill to one of these bluepiled greycels and he literally said he doesn't believe in these "autistic incel articles", can you fucking believe that? :lul:
I'm tired of trying to explain basic blackpill 101 to all these 2021 infiltrators. I'm tired of explaining the dogpill, the heightpill, lookism to 2021 greyfags.
Wasn't there a rule "No bluepillers allowed" some time ago? Bring it back.
What do administrators want? A blackpilled forum or normie forum?


ERadicator said:
Straight up temp ban faggots for postmaxxing on ID instead of just moving their shit threads to the sewers and giving them slaps on the wrist
100%. You have to punish people who post in the wrong subforum or they'll never learn and you'll have to constantly waste ressources on moving their trash threads around. Posting in the correct subforum isn't difficult.

mentalcel said:
Clarify bragging more. For instance if mentioning someone talked with a foid or went on a date considered bragging or not etc. Some are open to interpretation.
This forum is about not being able to have female interaction and we have to argue if talking about female interaction is bragging. What?

Aadi said:
IP ban India
I would ban this greycel retard on the spot for this. Shitting his retarded troll oneliner into an important discussion.
Rhaast said:
Also this braindamaged 6'1 larper, who even encourages this retarded trolling.
USE THE FUCKIN BAN BUTTON MODS. WHY ARE YOU TOLERATING LOW IQ TROLL FAGS LIKE THESE??????????????


unsettling said:
rule 1: 2021cels shouldn't have a say in what kind of rules are implemented.
This should be a nobrainer, but I'm afraid it isn't :fuk:
 
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