The Abyss
Aspergerscel. Cope 'til you rope.
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If you haven't fucked without paying for it you ain't gotten past the title.
Actually my position is in alignment with your own.If you look into the meaning of the words
Involuntary
Celibate
The answer should be reasonably clear.
Want sex, but can't get sex, is the standard. It is the only possible coherent standard that there is. And it should always be the standard.
@Fat Link proposes that people who've managed to arrange dates and yet still failed to get sex, are fakecels who don't belong here.
I might propose that neets who've chosen poverty and have never taken any steps to put themselves in front of women, are lazy volcels blaming toilets for their own weakness who don't belong here alongside people who fail with women despite trying and trying and trying.
But the reality is that ALL opinions like that are just personal asshole opinions. Wanting sex and not being able to get sex, is real, it is the litmus test and it should continue to be the only standard for what an incel is.
A “date” doesn’t look the same for everyone or across time. For example, for a guy who’s an 8, a date is probably hanging out at her place or the guys place then fucking, then the woman being added to his rotation or falling in love with him. For a guy who’s a 3? A date is the woman staying as far from him as possible, not even touching him, trying to get a free dinner and ordering something extra to-go for tomorrow’s lunch, then never seeing or speaking to him again..
Said it better than me.No dates can be free car ride, free meals, free jester literally some men have stories of being saved as free food on some girls devices
A friend of mine kept going on dates with a girl for 2 years and paying everytime before he got the courage to finally ask her to be his gf and when he did on whatsapp (jfl) she replied with ":s"
Most of the community is below 20 years old troll zoomers, anyone who says getting a date and getting played for free meals/cinema/nightclub should be suspected of zoomer fakecelism.Actually my position is in alignment with your own.
I‘m simply saying my bro @based_meme who takes issue with our stance may have more support from the community on how we should deal with this problem and this poll is to determine that conclusively.
People go on dates for the purposes of sex and romance. It isn't just a get-to-know-you game. It's a get-to-know-and-see-if-we'll-be-fucking-later-and-possibly-regularly game (short or long-term, though short-term can just skip the dating step and go straight to either's home or a hotel room). For the man it's quite straightforward. He wants to fuck, so he asks her out on a date. She then agrees (or not), based on initial appearances, then uses the date to evaluate you for longer term, because "dating" is showing interest in more than just sex (the desire for it is always implied and understood), though the short-term evaluation is done practically instantly (all looks).If you look into the meaning of the words
Involuntary
Celibate
The answer should be reasonably clear.
Want sex, but can't get sex, is the standard. It is the only possible coherent standard that there is. And it should always be the standard.
@Fat Link proposes that people who've managed to arrange dates and yet still failed to get sex, are fakecels who don't belong here.
I might propose that neets who've chosen poverty and have never taken any steps to put themselves in front of women, are lazy volcels blaming toilets for their own weakness who don't belong here alongside people who fail with women despite trying and trying and trying.
But the reality is that ALL opinions like that are just personal asshole opinions. Wanting sex and not being able to get sex, is real, it is the litmus test and it should continue to be the only standard for what an incel is.
If you can get a date then you can get sex ban them
just lol @ users going on dates with females then claiming to be incel
This and the foid using the date for free food. If the foid does anything romantic on said date that is a different storyit depends if the date was purely a setup to be humiliated-- this is the only excuse
NO YOU ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS A 10/10 200K EARNING FOOTLONG DICK HAVING HAREM MAXXING GIGACHADAre you still an incel if you've been one date but you are still single, never had a gf, lost virginity, and is still unsuccessful even though he tries his best to get a foids attention?
If you can get a date then you can get sex ban them
If you look good enough to get a date, you look good enough to have sex, it's as simple as that.
agreedIf absolutely nothing amounted from the dates then nah
Orbiters take women on "dates" just so the women can get free food
Are you still an incel if you've been one date but you are still single, never had a gf, lost virginity, and is still unsuccessful even though he tries his best to get a foids attention?
NO YOU ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS A 10/10 200K EARNING FOOTLONG DICK HAVING HAREM MAXXING GIGACHAD
I swear some of the retards here have no nuance or complexity in their considerations at all.
Guys who can get dates are obviously not incel, this means a woman is willing to spend her time on a guy, that alone is proof they are not incel. A guy like me would NEVER be able to go on a date, period, let alone have a conversation with a female for longer than 2 minutes.Actually my position is in alignment with your own.
I‘m simply saying my bro @based_meme who takes issue with our stance may have more support from the community on how we should deal with this problem and this poll is to determine that conclusively.
I asked out several foids to go on dates with me and they all rejected me
You can always tell when school kids and neets who've never made any effort are speaking.
Guys who can get dates are obviously not incel
You should seriously ban the cucks that said no.it depends if the date was purely a setup to be humiliated-- this is the only excuse
If you can get a date then you can get sex ban them
then what proof does it require to you to further prove someone is a fakecel, if not actually scoring a chick without being arrested?On the other hand, I can see this isn’t just a discussion of what makes a “fakecel,”
There are a number of definitions of what a “fakecel” is from what I’ve seen, for example someone who has had unpaid sex (100% a fakecel), someone who gets regular female attention, or someone who has had relationships or has “dated” (different from “gone on a date”) foids.then what proof does it require to you to further prove someone is a fakecel, if not actually scoring a chick without being arrested?
I think this is the issueschool kids
What’s this mean to you? From beginning to end?going on a real date
I think there are a lot of guys here who just don’t have the real world experience to know this. Women who are hypergamous and who shun, ignore, or outright disrespect us are one form of evil. But there’s a whole other side to women that only comes out in certain settings, like the workplace for example, where they will pretend to be nice to you but use everything they learn about you to tear you down. Women are generally socially adept and politically savvy, and there are a good number of them out there who do not hesitate to use this against men, ESPECIALLY ones who they can write off as not having sexual value to them. And thanks to feminism, they have a convenient excuse to not feel badly about it or to explain it should the need arise.Some women are pure evil ive seen them do this many many times.
What you said also happens alot. They try to be your friend at work by chatting you up then the next thing u know is you get a call from HR for a warning because they reported you for something you said or did while trying to be friendly.I think there are a lot of guys here who just don’t have the real world experience to know this. Women who are hypergamous and who shun, ignore, or outright disrespect us are one form of evil. But there’s a whole other side to women that only comes out in certain settings, like the workplace for example, where they will pretend to be nice to you but use everything they learn about you to tear you down. Women are generally socially adept and politically savvy, and there are a good number of them out there who do not hesitate to use this against men, ESPECIALLY ones who they can write off as not having sexual value to them. And thanks to feminism, they have a convenient excuse to not feel badly about it or to explain it should the need arise.
I voted other.
It is too much of a grey area and the "date" needs context
Just swipe right over a million times bro!
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Tinder/comments/16nusu7/as_requested_by_many_my_profile_in_which_i_have/incels.is
In this thread this man swiped 1 million times on tinder and got one date from tinder.
Same A lot of people somehow don’t get thisI personally don't get how purely going on a date qualifies one as a fakecel. It's not a matter of the woman finding you attractive, she saw an easy way to get free meals and rides
some of them are like "you need to drop me back home at 8:00 pm or my dad will scold me i really wish i could see you more ".I personally don't get how purely going on a date qualifies one as a fakecel. It's not a matter of the woman finding you attractive, she saw an easy way to get free meals and rides
Hmm could you explain what you mean a little more by the skewed ratio? But yes to the part about users not even trying. It’s obvious from the language in some posts here that some guys haven’t even tried, and they certainly don’t have a leg to stand on to criticize incels who have tried and failed, whether that failure was outright rejection or rejection via resource extraction (a “date” for free food or for a ride).You think it could be due to their environment? Maybe the male to female ratio might be skewed in favor of females in addition to some users outright not even trying to interact with women(You'd be surprised how many users here say that you don't even need to be rejected once to be an incel)
I see, i think I get it. College seems like that kind of environment, although certain majors can change that a lot.More women around could potentially mean that they would have no choice in "Going down" in terms of interacting with men of lesser value, they still use the men but higher chance a woman interacts with you. That was just me speculating though
Zero to hero. Overnight miracle.Incel until you have 4 wives and 12 kids @based_meme
The rest of us can't even GET a date. We're either invisible or given a harsh dose of reality. JFLGuys who can get dates are obviously not incel, this means a woman is willing to spend her time on a guy, that alone is proof they are not incel. A guy like me would NEVER be able to go on a date, period, let alone have a conversation with a female for longer than 2 minutes.
If a girl goes on a date with you that means your physical characteristics are not the main issue at all, maybe the one going on the date is retarded and fucks it up but that is where dating coaching come in, these exist for guys who have the ability to go on dates.
So yes, a guy going on dates isn't incel, he can ascend with effort. However, some people like me and my bro @based_meme would not even be given the time of day. If we have to share the forum with those who gets kisses, hugs and dates it's a massive insult to us and many actual truecels here.
Like @LeFrenchCel said, if you're good enough for a date, you are good enough for sex. Bullshit that this is even contested here.
Does this mean that I'm an asshole and not a good dude?
"I'm the only real truecel here, nobody has ever suffered like I'm suffering, anybody with even slightly different experiences of inceldom than me is a fakecel, reeeee!"
^^^That attitude there, has always been the curse of .is and .co before it.
It's why I was on r/braincels and not .co for a long time.
It's why I just walked away from the online incel community, and spent over a year just doing my gardening after braincels got nuked.
The supportive, collegial spirit that braincels had just wasn't present in .co, and it's still not really present here now.
There are some good dudes here, but overall the site is just assholes trying to tear each other down and score a point. ALL. THE. FKN. TIME.
I just don't understand why so many users choose to be like that here. If you want to get treated like shit, there's the entire world out there where you can get that. Why in the world do so many users want to bring that in here, and make that the norm for how we treat each other here?
I can only guess it's the same mentality that fuels r/Inceltears? I'm a loser at life, everyone mogs me, but HERE! HERE is my chance to shit on someone else, so I'm gonna do it!
Ah yes, this is what I meant to say; took the words right out of my mouth.People go on dates for the purposes of sex and romance. It isn't just a get-to-know-you game. It's a get-to-know-and-see-if-we'll-be-fucking-later-and-possibly-regularly game (short or long-term, though short-term can just skip the dating step and go straight to either's home or a hotel room). For the man it's quite straightforward. He wants to fuck, so he asks her out on a date. She then agrees (or not), based on initial appearances, then uses the date to evaluate you for longer term, because "dating" is showing interest in more than just sex (the desire for it is always implied and understood), though the short-term evaluation is done practically instantly (all looks).
What does this mean for men who are attractive enough to go on dates but never get sex? How does that even work as the number of dates approaches infinity (lim dates -> infinity, f(dates) = 0 sex)? She's actively taking time out of her day to spend it with you. Considering how indecisive and flaky women are known to be, this is usually a huge step.
Unless you're some 1 in a billion edge case where you appear perfectly normal to her when getting the date but then morph into Captain Autismo the moment the date is on, it's extremely improbable that a man can easily go on multiple dates but never get sex. This is why sexless dating is an unealistic caveat for inceldom. Almost always, with enough dates (especially for someone who can easily get them), sex is practically a certainty.
Still, I don’t think many of them are putting forth effort in considering the variability of what a “date” is. I also believe they don’t truly know just how evil women can be, and for example assume that time or attention towards men is always genuine and never manipulative.
Does this mean that I'm an asshole and not a good dude?
I know you are a good dude.
There's always going to be a contingent of this group, regardless.I am disturbed by the huge tide of young cels muttering "date = fakecel trait" on this thread, who have no idea and seem to think their experience of tinder as a teenager is all there is.
The last thing I want is for this place to be degenerated into the kind of thing you're describing. It's what I'm trying to prevent, tbhngl.If they get their way and the vote gets implemented as policy, we are going to see generational change on here, and dumb 20yo neets who've never tried anything and never done anything yelling fakecel will be all that is left. Maybe that's what you want?
Usually echoed by users that dont post anything good on here anyway, I didn't come on here to compare my height with others or how big my nose is."I'm the only real truecel here, nobody has ever suffered like I'm suffering, anybody with even slightly different experiences of inceldom than me is a fakecel, reeeee!"
^^^That attitude there, has always been the curse of .is and .co before it.
Lol I have always thought of that, some people seem to only come on here just picking fights, not that I have been perfect myself but never to the extent of some on here.I just don't understand why so many users choose to be like that here. If you want to get treated like shit, there's the entire world out there where you can get that. Why in the world do so many users want to bring that in here, and make that the norm for how we treat each other here?