KingOfRome
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The facts and my own personal experience support the idea.
In a 2015 study from the United Kingdom which looked at a large cohort of obese subjects who were put through professional weight loss intervention excluding bariatric surgery. The odds for an obese person to diet down to a healthy weight were less than 1%.
More than 90% of dieters regain their weight after treatment.
It's harder for obese adults to lose weight long-term than obese children.
Now, before you guys scream at me about how there were no fat people in Auschwitz or something, I'm not going to say genetics beat the laws of thermodynamics. Caloric balance is hands-down the main deciding factor in weight management. What I am saying is fat people are generally just so lazy and weak-willed that the only way to get them down to healthy weights would be to lock them in concentration camps.
There are numerous studies supporting this psychopathological theory of obesity.
Personality and obesity across the adult life span.
Obesity is negatively correlated with intelligence.
Personality and intelligence are both about 50% heritable i.e. genetic.
So it's pretty clear based on the evidence that fat people are generally stupid and impulsive, both flaws caused by subpar genes. This is consistent with my own personal experience with fat people who will never lose weight despite desperately wanting to i.e. the vast majority of them. Something as simple as a calorie-restricted diet over a moderate period of time eludes them either intellectually or emotionally (usually both), so the only way they'd ever be able to stick with a diet long-term would be if they were forced at gunpoint. To paraphrase a fatcel on this forum I spoke with recently, telling an obese person to not eat so much would be like telling anyone else to not breathe. Their impulse control really is that pathetic. It's comparable to autism, another heritable form of mental retardation.
Therefore, I propose that fatcels who can't lose weight despite numerous attempts should be regarded as mentalcels, as their inceldom is caused by a debilitating mental illness.
In a 2015 study from the United Kingdom which looked at a large cohort of obese subjects who were put through professional weight loss intervention excluding bariatric surgery. The odds for an obese person to diet down to a healthy weight were less than 1%.
The annual probability of patients with simple obesity attaining a normal body weight was only 1 in 124 for women and 1 in 210 for men. The likelihood of attaining normal weight declined with increasing BMI category, with the lowest probability observed for morbidly obese patients. The smaller group of superobese patients was a departure from this trend but nevertheless showed a low probability of attaining normal body weight. Although the probability of patients achieving a 5% reduction in body weight was considerably higher, the majority of these patients went on to regain lost weight, as evidenced by BMI records of greater than 95% of the initial value, within 2 to 5 years of the first record that was lower than 95% of the initial value.
More than 90% of dieters regain their weight after treatment.
Probability of an Obese Person Attaining Normal Body Weight: Cohort Study Using Electronic Health Records
Objectives. We examined the probability of an obese person attaining normal body weight.Methods. We drew a sample of individuals aged 20 years and older from the United Kingdom’s Clinical Practice Research Datalink from 2004 to 2014. We analyzed ...
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Stunkard concluded his review of the past 30 y of attempts to promote weight loss in the obese with the statement ‘Most obese persons will not stay in treatment for obesity. Of those who stay in treatment, most will not lose weight, and of those who do lose weight, most will regain it’.5 In 1993, Wadden updated this review and examined both the short- and long-term effectiveness of both moderate and severe caloric restriction on weight loss as determined by randomized controlled trials (RCTs).6 He examined all the studies involving RCTs in four behavioural journals and compared his findings to those of Stunkard.5 Wadden concluded that ‘Investigators have made significant progress in inducing weight loss in the 35 y since Stunkard's review’. He states that 80% of patients will now stay in treatment for 20 weeks and that 50% will achieve a weight loss of 20 lb or more. Therefore, modern methods of weight loss produce improved results in the short-term. However, Wadden also concludes that ‘most obese patients treated in research trials still regain their lost weight’. This conclusion has been further supported by a recent systematic review of interventions for the treatment and prevention of obesity which identified 92 studies which fitted the authors' inclusion criteria.7 The review examined the effectiveness of dietary, exercise, behavioural, pharmacological and surgical interventions for obesity and concluded that ‘the majority of the studies included in the present review demonstrate weight regain either during treatment or post intervention’. Accordingly, the picture for long-term weight loss is almost as pessimistic as it ever was.
The correlates of long-term weight loss: a group comparison study of obesity - International Journal of Obesity
OBJECTIVE: Although the majority of weight loss attempts are unsuccessful, a small minority succeed in both weight loss and maintenance. The present study aimed to explore the correlates of this success. METHOD: A group comparison design was used to examine differences between women who were...
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It's harder for obese adults to lose weight long-term than obese children.
Now, before you guys scream at me about how there were no fat people in Auschwitz or something, I'm not going to say genetics beat the laws of thermodynamics. Caloric balance is hands-down the main deciding factor in weight management. What I am saying is fat people are generally just so lazy and weak-willed that the only way to get them down to healthy weights would be to lock them in concentration camps.
There are numerous studies supporting this psychopathological theory of obesity.
Personality and obesity across the adult life span.
Using 14,531 anthropometric assessments, the authors modeled the trajectory of BMI across adulthood and tested whether personality predicted its rate of change. Measured concurrently, participants higher on Neuroticism or Extraversion or lower on Conscientiousness had higher BMI; these associations replicated across body fat, waist, and hip circumference. The strongest association was found for the impulsivity facet: Participants who scored in the top 10% of impulsivity weighed, on average, 11Kg more than those in the bottom 10%. Longitudinally, high Neuroticism and low Conscientiousness, and the facets of these traits related to difficulty with impulse control, were associated with weight fluctuations, measured as the variability in weight over time. Finally, low Agreeableness and impulsivity-related traits predicted a greater increase in BMI across the adult life span.
Analysis of covariance revealed that MMPI type accounted for 50 percent of the variance in 12-month weight loss after covarying for initial weight and pre-operative percentage of ideal weight. Variables that added significantly to the prediction of weight loss were age and MMPI scale Pd. In general, the prototypic profiles indicative of the greatest disturbance predicted poor weight loss. In contrast to the 10 MMPI types described in this study, an alternative clustering of patients into fewer groups with much less psychological homogeneity was not predictive of outcome.
Results: In linear regression analyses the personality characteristic greater Lack of Assertiveness could explain 17% of Disinhibited eating and 13% of Hunger scores, whereas less Lack of Assertiveness could explain 12% of Flexible Control. BMI was negatively related to one of the personality characteristics, Adventure Seeking. Discussion: A lacking ability to be socially self-assertive and confident characterized obese patients with more problematic eating behaviours that imply a risk for over consumption of food. A greater selfassertiveness was found in patients with a relatively more efficient eating strategy such as flexible control over eating.
Personality correlates of obese eating behaviour: Swedish universities Scales of Personality and the Three Factor Eating Questionnaire - Eating and Weight Disorders - Studies on Anorexia, Bulimia and Obesity
Objective: To study the relationship between personality characteristics and eating behaviour in obese patients. Method: The participants were 45 patients with a mean body mass index (BMI) of 39 kg/m2. Eating behaviour was measured with the Three Factor Eating Questionnaire (TFEQ) also taking...
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Obesity is negatively correlated with intelligence.
We performed a systematic review describing obesity/intelligent quotient (IQ) association, particularly childhood IQ in relation to adulthood obesity. After screening 883 citations from five electronic databases, we included 26 studies, most of medium quality. The weighted mean difference (WMD) of the full IQ (FIQ)/obesity association in the pre‐school children was −15.1 (P > 0.05). Compared with controls, the WMD of FIQ and performance IQ of obese children were −2.8 and −10.0, respectively (P < 0.05), and the WMD of verbal IQ was −7.01 (P > 0.05). With increasing obesity, the FIQ in pre‐school children declined, with a significant difference for severely obese children and FIQ.
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Recent findings Most studies in the area employ cross-sectional data and conclude (without empirical justification) that obesity causes intellectual impairment. The few studies that employ prospectively longitudinal data, however, uniformly conclude that lower intelligence leads to BMI gains and obesity. A close examination of three such studies, from three different nations (Sweden, New Zealand, and the UK), leaves little doubt that the causality runs from low intelligence to obesity.
Summary The conclusion in previous studies that obesity impairs cognitive function stems from improper interpretation of a negative association between intelligence and obesity from cross-sectional studies. Results from the analyses of high-quality, population-based, prospectively longitudinal data firmly establish that low intelligence increases the chances of obesity.
Intelligence and obesity: which way does the causal... : Current Opinion in Endocrinology, Diabetes and Obesity
ecent findings Most studies in the area employ cross-sectional data and conclude (without empirical justification) that obesity causes intellectual impairment. The few studies that employ prospectively longitudinal data, however, uniformly conclude that lower intelligence leads to BMI gains and...
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Personality and intelligence are both about 50% heritable i.e. genetic.
The influence of genetic factors for two personality dimensions was analyzed using data from 12,898 unselected twin pairs of the Swedish Twin Registry. The heritability index was 0.50 (men) and 0.58 (women) for psychosocial instability. Corresponding figures for psychosocial extraversion were 0.54 and 0.66. Thus, about half the phenotypic variation may be attributed to genetic factors.
Assessment of heritability for personality, based on a short-form of the Eysenck personality inventory: A study of 12,898 twin pairs - Behavior Genetics
The influence of genetic factors for two personality dimensions was analyzed using data from 12,898 unselected twin pairs of the Swedish Twin Registry. The heritability index was 0.50 (men) and 0.58 (women) for psychosocial instability. Corresponding figures for psychosocial extraversion were...
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the final sample included 62 independent effect sizes, representing more than 100,000 participants of both genders and all ages. Data analyses were performed using the random-effects model, software program R package metafor. The average effect size was .40, indicating that 40% of individual differences in personality were due to genetic, while 60% are due to environmental influences. After correction for possible publication bias the conclusion was unaltered.
‘When data across all studies are collapsed, genetic influences [on intelligence differences] account for around 50% of the variance’.
Genetics of intelligence - European Journal of Human Genetics
This article provides an overview of the biometric and molecular genetic studies of human psychometric intelligence. In the biometric research, special attention is given to the environmental and genetic contributions to specific and general cognitive ability differences, and how these differ...
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Japanese data for 543 monozygotic (MZ) twins and 134 dizygotic (DZ) twins tested for intelligence at the age of 12 give correlation coefficients of. 782 and .491, respectively, indicating a heritability of .582. Heavier twins at birth have significantly higher IQs at the age of 12, suggesting that prenatal nutrition exerts a significant effect on intelligence.
The heritability of intelligence in Japan - Behavior Genetics
Japanese data for 543 monozygotic (MZ) twins and 134 dizygotic (DZ) twins tested for intelligence at the age of 12 give correlation coefficients of. 782 and .491, respectively, indicating a heritability of .582. Heavier twins at birth have significantly higher IQs at the age of 12, suggesting...
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So it's pretty clear based on the evidence that fat people are generally stupid and impulsive, both flaws caused by subpar genes. This is consistent with my own personal experience with fat people who will never lose weight despite desperately wanting to i.e. the vast majority of them. Something as simple as a calorie-restricted diet over a moderate period of time eludes them either intellectually or emotionally (usually both), so the only way they'd ever be able to stick with a diet long-term would be if they were forced at gunpoint. To paraphrase a fatcel on this forum I spoke with recently, telling an obese person to not eat so much would be like telling anyone else to not breathe. Their impulse control really is that pathetic. It's comparable to autism, another heritable form of mental retardation.
Therefore, I propose that fatcels who can't lose weight despite numerous attempts should be regarded as mentalcels, as their inceldom is caused by a debilitating mental illness.