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Blackpill For "Ascension Copers": Getting A GF Is The Easy Part (Its Better To "Descend")

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My version of "ascension", I call it "descension", since I hated the term "ascension" for what it is used for (chasing a cope), and I wanted my concept of "success" after an incel life to be in opposition of that.

Descension is the exact opposite of ascension, you could say its like the MGTOW version of "ascension", while "ascenders" focus on looks, "descenders" focus on money. The goal of "ascension" is to become more "normie like", get women to like you, date, have sex, maybe get married and have children. The goal of "descension" is to build wealth, try and create sustainable passive income streams, and escortcel, never get married or have children.

I've always seen the obvious problems with ascension which is why everytime I see an incel speak about trying to do that I can't help but think they're stupid.

Ok you finally get a GF, she's likely going to be beneath your league, and there's still nothing stopping her from cheating on you. Like I remember seeing a poster online tell me (it wasn't on this forum)

"Getting a GF is the easy part, now you have to do a bunch of shit to keep her excited and entertained so she doesn't leave you, now you've reached the hard part"

Ironically the further you progress into a relationship, the harder it gets, not easier, you have more to lose, more shit you have to do, more men in her life to be compared against, etc. Just more problems in general.

For example in dating you only really have your dignity to lose if she wants to leave you (well there's also the money you invested into the relationship, and sex), if you are married you have half of your wealth to lose after a divorce, if you have children you can basically lose your children and still have to pay child support. Ascension is an endless game of continuous and painstaking effort just to enjoy mediocre happiness, why bother.

A lot of incels on this site seem very naive, they speak as if the hard part is getting the girl to date you. Quite obviously your problems have only begun at that point, any shortcomings that you were able to hide to get her to date you, will become ever more apparent as the relationship progresses, if she doesn't leave you in the first month then maybe you are "home free".

You see now you have to put in effort every single day, just to keep her around, all the stress and anxiety you felt, it isn't really gone, because first the problem was getting her to fuck you, now your problem is to keep her fucking you, and to keep her from fucking anyone else, your worries don't end when you get a woman, they only just begun. I've been thinking about this shit for years, which is why I've never really bothered with trying to ascend once I learned about the black pill and truly accepted it.

Its an illusion, if you have to TRY to be attractive, then you aren't attractive, so even if you get a female, you will have to KEEP TRYING with that same effort (or even more). Get a surgery to up your looks, good, female SMV is rising each year, and with shit like tinder, what difference does that make, at most any guy on this site ups his looks he'll be a 6, a woman can open tinder and find 50+ 6's willing to fuck in her area. ITS OVER.

I say focus on the elements in life that you can control, this is why "descension" to me is the most logical choice, your money can't cheat on you or leave you, your businesses can't cheat on you or leave you, an escort can't cheat on you or leave you (she isn't yours, you are just renting her body). You don't have to keep stressing everyday about the shit you would have to if you were trying to "ascend".

Ironically a lot of the "ascenders" in their 20's are going to be right back in this forum as incels when they get divorce raped (which is the likely end point of ascension). Out of the frying pan, into the fire. Why bother with that shit.

We haven't even gone into the other problems of "ascension" including your "stunted growth", all the people around you are already good at socializing, hooking up, they have "style", they can hold conversations, etc. You have to teach yourself all of this just to have a chance at getting a GF, and then you have to somehow "learn on the go" to keep up with her so she doesn't feel "weirded out". You're always in a way going to be behind her in the relationship.

Its an uphill battle through and through, that's all ascension is, you know what, I just realized the term fits very well, it is an ascension, and that's the very reason why its an uphill battle, wasted effort really, descend and know that you have the high ground, or end up like dear anakin.

 
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Tesla IQ post as always OP.
 
Low iq refuse to post in this thread
 
That pill was so black it stole my bike and went to Kentucky Fried Chicken.

I am more of a MGTOW-type descender, but I still hope to attract a girlfriend eventually. I am not going to marry. Too dangerous, femoids can plan to divorce rape you even before they marry you. There is no way to defend oneself in that case.
 
only ascension is sugerymaxxing
 
Your post sounds like MGTOW-tier. Have you ever had a gf? You can answer me through PM. I will not leak it. There is this problem with some incels. The idea that they should have an easier life than normies, despite being uglier than them.

Is it worth it to be a cuck(submissive) just to get a gf? Of course not. Machieavelli was right about this.
"Some incels here believe they can be a chooser when their dna is beggar."
- Machiavelli
 
only ascension is sugerymaxxing
Mentioned that too, its all pointless, because your life is just an endless uphiill battle, you get your GF and now the game has only just begun, you have to keep fighting just to keep her.
 
Joseph De Maistre level IQ
 
"Getting a GF is the easy part, now you have to do a bunch of shit to keep her excited and entertained so she doesn't leave you, now you've reached the hard part"

JFL at this cucked, redpilled, woman worshipping mindset. Once you ascend, your purpose is to get your dick wet as much as possible. If the foid wants the D repeatedly, good for you, if she doesn't then to hell with her. The second you get into the "I gotta work hard to keep my gf" mindset is the second you become a PUSSY WHIPPED CUCK.
 
Also, I only perceive as ascension if the guy is able to attract multiple guys.
- Leanmaxing(if the guy is fat/bloated face)
-Surgery
-Changing the location.

Other than that, it all results to lucking out. Things like dressing better, gymceling, taking better care of yourself could work but not for sub4 man. Which is the case with a lot of users here. Hell, many here not even have approached 50 girls.
 
Your post sounds like MGTOW-tier.

Descension is the exact opposite of ascension, you could say its like the MGTOW version of "ascension"

Yeah, kinda said that too lol

Have you ever had a gf? You can answer me through PM. I will not leak it.

1. No

2. If this was something I had to hide about and couldn't answer honestly, then I shouldn't be a part of this forum. Your low post count and you saying this makes you highly suspect for being a normie.

3. Whats your point of this question?

There is this problem with some incels. The idea that they should have an easier life than normies, despite being uglier than them.

Is it worth it to be a cuck(submissive) just to get a gf? Of course not. Machieavelli was right about this.
"Some incels here believe they can be a chooser when their dna is beggar."
- Machiavelli

The point of my post is a simple cost benefit analysis, is the effort worth the end result, and sadly it isn't, it has nothing to do with expecting an easier life than normies, it has to do with comparing ones effort against what it yields.

Most men are dating down in this day an age, and an incel is a 5/10 at best, so at most any of us could get is a 5 and below (we'd more likely get 4 and below)

Add in all the other factors I included which shows venture is an endless uphill battle, and it easily becomes apparent how pointless all this is. I can spend money trying to "ascend" and gamble for pussy (hope a bitch fucks me), or I can make money trying to "descend" and pay whores for sex (no gambling involved, I get what I pay for).

Sorry but its a simple choice for me, I can gamble, or I can purchase. I can struggle for mediocre gain, or I can ease my way through a mostly stress free life.

"Getting a GF is the easy part, now you have to do a bunch of shit to keep her excited and entertained so she doesn't leave you, now you've reached the hard part"

JFL at this cucked, redpilled, woman worshipping mindset. Once you ascend, your purpose is to get your dick wet as much as possible. If the foid wants the D repeatedly, good for you, if she doesn't then to hell with her. The second you get into the "I gotta work hard to keep my gf" mindset is the second you become a PUSSY WHIPPED CUCK.

I was about to reply saying that you don't sound like an incel, and you don't seem to get that if an incel finally gets a GF, he just got lucky, and it would be very easy to lose her.

Then I looked at your username and realized exactly why you said this blue pilled BS.

https://incels.is/threads/black-pil...sidual-blue-pill-affecting-their-logic.91468/

Nobody who refers to themselves as a "black pilled normie" should be allowed on this site, its an oxymoron.

All I ever see "black pilled normies" post is shit that revolves around their egoism, because they've tasted too much of the blue pilled world, they are a normie at heart, so their logic will always be inherently blue pilled.

You guys just keep proving me right JFL.
 
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Mentioned that too, its all pointless, because your life is just an endless uphiill battle, you get your GF and now the game has only just begun, you have to keep fighting just to keep her.
Surgerymaxxing only works for trust fund kids who have access to $$$$ in their late teens/early 20s.

Most men can only afford to surgerymax starting from their mid-30's and by then it's too late.
 
Yeah, kinda said that too lol



1. No

2. If this was something I had to hide about and couldn't answer honestly, then I shouldn't be a part of this forum. Your low post count and you saying this makes you highly suspect for being a normie.

3. Whats your point of this question?



The point of my post is a simple cost benefit analysis, is the effort worth the end result, and sadly it isn't, it has nothing to do with expecting an easier life than normies, it has to do with comparing ones effort against what it yields.

Most men are dating down in this day an age, and an incel is a 5/10 at best, so at most any of us could get is a 5 and below (we'd more likely get 4 and below)

Add in all the other factors I included which shows venture is an endless uphill battle, and it easily becomes apparent how pointless all this is. I can spend money trying to "ascend" and gamble for pussy (hope a bitch fucks me), or I can make money trying to "descend" and pay whores for sex (no gambling involved, I get what I pay for).

Sorry but its a simple choice for me, I can gamble, or I can purchase. I can struggle for mediocre gain, or I can ease my way through a mostly stress free life.
>most men are dating down in this day an age
True.
>add in all the other factors I included which shows venture is an endless uphill battle, and it easily becomes apparent how pointless all this is
You can always put an end to the relationship. It's what the non-cucked man tend to do.
>or I can make money trying to "descend" and pay whores for sex
I don't find having sex with prostitutes something shameful but wouldn't be better to have sex with some who is attracted to you? Sure, between being a woman's jester vs having sex with hookers, having sex with hookers is the best option.

Someone who ascended doesn't have to be a jester, though. I only consider ascension if the guy is able to get girls without mass approaching. Getting 1 girl after approaching 300 girls etc.
 
Surgerymaxxing only works for trust fund kids who have access to $$$$ in their late teens/early 20s.

Most men can only afford to surgerymax starting from their mid-30's and by then it's too late.

Another good point
 
For an incel, the ascension plan may work if they lower their standards to the point where they will date old women, mentally ill social outcasts women and/or ugly low-self esteem girls who think they deserve no better than a lowlife incel.

Other than that, an incel can lookmax, if he has potential. Even with lookmax, the incel can’t overcome the lack of experience, he don’t know how to emotionally engage with women, he does not know how to interact with normies and how to insert in a normal social circle.

There are a lot of things precluded to the incel that are not easy to achieve without past experiences and the adequate set of social skills.

I’m not saying it’s over for every incel, I’m just saying that ascension is a myth, especially for stupid lowIQ incels who think that having a girl is the ultimate goal in life and that once they get a girlfriend they will automatically become normies.

I’m assuming that most incels who dream the teen love in their 20 are nor bluepilled neither whitepilled, they are just insane, and their ascension concept is nearly impossible to realize given their starting conditions.

Being an incel is a lot worse than many may think. Some are fucked beyond belief, and have no social circle or friends. So for them the classic concept of ascension is just a bad cope to follow.

It’s better to focus on money, and then start paying attention to the MGTOW-sphere, because there are a lot of men who had money and still got screwed by femoids. MGTOWs are still warning people to stay away from marriage. Low status males have to care for themselves and don’t dream to find the special nawalt unicorn.
 
You can always put an end to the relationship. It's what the non-cucked man tend to do.

1. That's not so easy to do when there may be nothing else on the horizon for you, so why bother even put yourself into that mental predicament

2. Money has alraedy been invested in that relationship based on how much time has passed, dinners bought, gifts bought, etc. Oh and I think you are assuming the guy in said relationship has already gotten to fuck, what if he hasn't gotten any yet, you advice is to just leave before he's gotten to hit it. Nah somebody is giving me some fucking money unless I at least get to hit it JFL.

wouldn't be better to have sex with some who is attracted to you?

I think that factor is irrelevant, does chicken taste better if it was you who personally killed it?, or does it just taste like chicken no matter what. I think a mindset like that is just more normie egoism, its this whole aspect of "the hunt" that men cling to, you have to "stare the beast" in its eyes and fill it with fear so when you strike it knows it was you who ended its life.

At the end of the day chicken tastes like chicken, deer tastes like deer, beef tastes like beef, whether the animal feared me before its death or another man makes no difference in the taste, so I'm just going to enjoy eating.

ascension is a myth, especially for stupid lowIQ incels who think that having a girl is the ultimate goal in life and that once they get a girlfriend they will automatically become normies.

Low status males have to care for themselves and don’t dream to find the special nawalt unicorn.
 
Ascension through lookmaxxing is futile for most of us anyway. So yes, do agree with you.

I know a cuckfiltrate when I see one. Prepare for my axe @Wolfgang Grimmer
 
That's the wrong ascension. A true blackpilled incel would choose to pump and dump over wasting his time in a relationship, if he could

Other than that, descension is the most logical choice, as well as the only choice for most of us.
 
You think about ascension in different terms than I do.

Fuck "ascending" so I can be a girl's bitch plaything. That's for dudes who haven't accepted the black pill.I consider ascending to get to a level where girls want you and will fight for your attention and whether it's looks, $$$ or lifestyle, you have to be blackpilled about it. this is the real reason why more guys need to consider moving out as opposed to just for girls.

Stuff you've listed keeping a girl interested, divorce rape, girls beneath your league. they are destroyed when you move to somewhere that's fucking poor, there are more girls than guys, and the law eiher doesn't exist or doesn't give a fuck. bonus if you are willing to wave your money and passport around.

When I think of ascending I think of getting and using all this shit to get above the women. I don't think of ascending as simply getting a girlfriend.
 
But I can already afford escortceling whenever I want, I could for like 10+ years now. Are you seriously proposing that escorts are any sort of solution for inceldom?

Life is shit if you're not sexually desired by a woman, or better yet womEn.

It's better with money and I'd for sure recommend everyone here to work hard to make as much money as possible... but being able to afford whores is a poor poor substitute to being desired by even one girl.

Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and guys like that have never and will never experience anything like this no matter what they have and what they do.
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But I can already afford escortceling whenever I want, I could for like 10+ years now. Are you seriously proposing that escorts are any sort of solution for inceldom?

Life is shit if you're not sexually desired by a woman, or better yet womEn.

It's better with money and I'd for sure recommend everyone here to work hard to make as much money as possible... but being able to afford whores is a poor poor substitute to being desired by even one girl.

Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and guys like that have never and will never experience anything like this no matter what they have and what they do.
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Even for an ascended-cel like myself, those pictures are pure suicide fuel.

I missed out on prime JBs and nothing is ever gonna bring those days back.

If you didn't live Chad / normie life as a teen, it's over.
 
That's the wrong ascension. A true blackpilled incel would choose to pump and dump over wasting his time in a relationship

When you think about it that isn't ideal for an incel, because getting a GF was already a struggle to begin with, it likely took months of constant rejections to finally get someone beneath your league, so pump and dump = gain access to sex, then go back to being sex starved for months or indefinitely.

Pump and dump only makes sense if you are actually attractive, it operates an entirely different way if you aren't, you have a more consistent access to sexual resources as an incel if you remain in a relationship, you don't have the priviledge of pump and dump. This is why I say "descension" is more logical, because once you get to the escortcel phase you'll have consistent access to sexual resources.
 
But I can already afford escortceling whenever I want, I could for like 10+ years now. Are you seriously proposing that escorts are any sort of solution for inceldom?

Life is shit if you're not sexually desired by a woman, or better yet womEn.

It's better with money and I'd for sure recommend everyone here to work hard to make as much money as possible... but being able to afford whores is a poor poor substitute to being desired by even one girl.

Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and guys like that have never and will never experience anything like this no matter what they have and what they do.
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If you have to "ascend" that also means you won't experience any of the above either. Only natural-born Chads have the privilege of getting to experience teen love.

Chad didn't had to ascend. He only had to exist.
 
1. That's not so easy to do when there may be nothing else on the horizon for you, so why bother even put yourself into that mental predicament

2. Money has alraedy been invested in that relationship based on how much time has passed, dinners bought, gifts bought, etc. Oh and I think you are assuming the guy in said relationship has already gotten to fuck, what if he hasn't gotten any yet, you advice is to just leave before he's gotten to hit it. Nah somebody is giving me some fucking money unless I at least get to hit it JFL.



I think that factor is irrelevant, does chicken taste better if it was you who personally killed it?, or does it just taste like chicken no matter what. I think a mindset like that is just more normie egoism, its this whole aspect of "the hunt" that men cling to, you have to "stare the beast" in its eyes and fill it with fear so when you strike it knows it was you who ended its life.

At the end of the day chicken tastes like chicken, deer tastes like deer, beef tastes like beef, whether the animal feared me before its death or another man makes no difference in the taste, so I'm just going to enjoy eating.
If you are the only one paying for dates, dinners, gifts you have not ascended. You're just betabuxing a foid. It's not ascension if the guy can't get other woman without a herculean job. Example: there are users here who admittedly prefer to be an incel instead of fucking a 3/10 girl.

If your argument is that it's better to pay for a gl hooker vs fucking a sub5 girl, it's completely a different thing.

"I think that factor is irrelevant, does chicken taste better if it was you who personally killed it?, or does it just taste like chicken no matter what. I think a mindset like that is just more normie egoism, its this whole aspect of "the hunt" that men cling to, you have to "stare the beast" in its eyes and fill it with fear so when you strike it knows it was you who ended its life.

At the end of the day chicken tastes like chicken, deer tastes like deer, beef tastes like beef, whether the animal feared me before its death or another man makes no difference in the taste, so I'm just going to enjoy eating."


If you aren't lying to yourself, I really envy this way of thinking.

Ascension through lookmaxxing is futile for most of us anyway. So yes, do agree with you.

I know a cuckfiltrate when I see one. Prepare for my axe @Wolfgang Grimmer
My original account is from 2017, boyo. Most of the incels from this community aren't sub4. Ascension as a sub4 for through lookamxing is basically impossible, yes, only if the guy is very fat.
 
Most of the incels from this community aren't sub4. Ascension as a sub4 for through lookamxing is basically impossible, yes, only if the guy is very fat.

The only way for a sub-4 to ascend: 1) Looksmax + 2) Locationmax (i.e. JBWing it in SEA)
 
If you have to "ascend" that also means you won't experience any of the above either. Only natural-born Chads have the privilege of getting to experience teen love.
The point of the black pill is that there is no hope.
Believing you'll have any kind of fulfilling life if you can earn enough money to escortcel is again a kind of forlorn hope, and hope is the main thing that's keeping us unhappy.
The closest thing to happiness an incel can experience is to make peace with the fact that there is no hope.
 
The only way for a sub-4 to ascend: 1) Looksmax + 2) Locationmax (i.e. JBWing it in SEA)
Even among incels who ascended going to SEA there wasn't a sub4. At least not that I know of. Ascension as a sub4 = surgery or jbwing ugly ethnic girls.
 
But I can already afford escortceling whenever I want, I could for like 10+ years now. Are you seriously proposing that escorts are any sort of solution for inceldom?

Yes, for incels who aren't egoists and blinded by ego, this is a reliable solution and path to happiness, for guys like you, IDK tough luck, you'll have to get over yourself first before you finally descend.

You ever ask yourself why you want to feel desired, do you think the colonizers of the past really gave a fuck or did they just go to different places and rape and impregnate their women?, do you think Ghengis Khan gave a fuck? (we all know what he did), not even the average peasant way back when gave a fuck.

Its only recently that "being sexually desired" became the prerequisite to getting sex, the reason why you care so much about being desired is because you've been raised under this modern rule set, and your psyche has internalized that rule set into "being something deeper". So even though what you really want is sex, your brain is still latched onto the prerequisite, because it knows that without achieving the prerequisite you won't get sex, one essentially equals the other.

Way back in the past, men didn't care very much for that shit, because the prerequisite for sex, was power, that was it, and the average man was more powerful than the average woman, you could just raid a village and take a bitch, get her pregnant, she can't abort the child anyways. You ever think about how much rape there is in human ancestry?. Add to it that women could not work and weren't allowed to learn anything and there's even an intelligence and resource gap in power.

So no guys, please stop with this blue pilled BS, driven by your ego, and your psyche that has been influenced by modern standards of masculinity, which are ironically feminine, because the men of the past did not really care much for this shit, and that's because they had different prerequisites to worry about.

Life is shit if you're not sexually desired by a woman

For different reasons for different men

For you its shit, because you are an egoist, and not feeling desired makes you feel less than and is a strike against your ego.

For me its because being sexually desired is the prerequisite to getting sex, and I just want sex.

Even for an ascended-cel like myself, those pictures are pure suicide fuel.

More humble bragging by a so called "black pilled normie", why am I not surprised.
 
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The point of the black pill is that there is no hope.
Believing you'll have any kind of fulfilling life if you can earn enough money to escortcel is again a kind of forlorn hope, and hope is the main thing that's keeping us unhappy.
The closest thing to happiness an incel can experience is to make peace with the fact that there is no hope.

Cope

Hope is the only thing that keeps us from roping.

Tbh escortcelling is certainly better than being KHHV.
 
When you think about it that isn't ideal for an incel, because getting a GF was already a struggle to begin with, it likely took months of constant rejections to finally get someone beneath your league, so pump and dump = gain access to sex, then go back to being sex starved for months or indefinitely.

Pump and dump only makes sense if you are actually attractive, it operates an entirely different way if you aren't, you have a more consistent access to sexual resources as an incel if you remain in a relationship, you don't have the priviledge of pump and dump. This is why I say "descension" is more logical, because once you get to the escortcel phase you'll have consistent access to sexual resources.
Yes and this is why I said if he could
 
Yes and this is why I said if he could
If he could, would he even really had been incel to begin with?

I can't imagine a guy with incel tier looks and/or social skills finally ascending and being able to pump and dump "efficiently", as in monkey branching to a next relationship. It isn't really pumping and dumping, when you go months or years sex starved after the dump part :feelskek:
 
More humble bragging by a so called "black pilled normie", why am I not surprised.

You are being biased against me just because my nickname is "Blackpilled Normie".

In fact, you are ignoring the huge blackpill that I dropped on purpose, which is "Even if you ascend by plastic surgery, you will have missed the quintessential young love experience", and accusing me of bragging.

Not surprising at all from a cuck who bows down to foids, and chooses to attack fellow blackpilled men.

Mentioned that too, its all pointless, because your life is just an endless uphiill battle, you get your GF and now the game has only just begun, you have to keep fighting just to keep her.

"you have to keep fighting just to keep her"

I'm not suprised seeing this CUCKED FOID WORSHIP coming from you. Accuse me of bragging all you want, but I would never stoop as low as FIGHTING to keep a foid. She wants the D, she will be given one. She doesn't want the D, then keep your dignity send the foid packing, rather than "fight" for her as you suggested. Better incel than cuck.

You are a cuck coper who is barking up the wrong tree, and I see right through you. :)
 
If he could, would he even really had been incel?

I can't imagine a guy with incel tier looks and/or social skills finally ascending and being able to pump and dump "efficiently", as in monkey branching to a next relationship. It isn't really pumping and dumping, when you go months sex starved after the dump part :feelskek:
Then just imagine it, just pretend your ugly ass could choose between consistent pump and dumps or relationships for a second

You get my point.
 
You are being biased against me just because my nickname is "Blackpilled Normie".

Its not bias when the person literally does everything you expected of them, that was indeed humble bragging, and they first thing you said in this thread was extremely blue pilled and showed that you could never really relate to an incel.

In fact, you are ignoring the huge blackpill that I dropped on purpose

JFL, huge black pill........... you mean basic level common sense shit that has already been mentioned on this site ad nauseum:

An entire thread about it: https://incels.is/threads/anything-worse-than-missing-out-on-teen-love.91094/

Various Posts:
Imagine you actually get into heaven, seeing every other couple together talking about their "young love" experiences, knowing you will never get a chance to experience the pleasure of a womans youthful body, for ALL ETERNITY.

You will never experience innocent Young love after that, every Girl in my City had at least 5-10 dicks inside her at the age of 20

While you are struggling at the age of 18 just to get a escort, chad at this age already exprienced 4-6 years of a Wonderful sex life with the most freshest pussy for which he never Paid for

Here's a psychologist that concludes teenage love is essential for self-development: https://thepsychologist.bps.org.uk/volume-29/july/teenagers-love
This provides evidence that young love is essential to self-esteem and development in later years: https://www.stanfordchildrens.org/en/topic/default?id=relationship-development-90-P01642
The CDC considers romance in young adolescence to be a developmental milestone: https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/childdevelopment/positiveparenting/adolescence2.html
And here's a study that shows that teenage love affects mental health and performance in school: https://asunow.asu.edu/20180412-not...mental-health-school-performance-asu-research
Those are only four of countless.
Anything else I'm sure you can find via search engines.

Yup, missing out on young love will poison the rest of your life.

JFL at HUGE BLACK PILL, that's the problem with "black pilled normies", you never have anything new to contribute because you aren't black pilled, you are just normies, you're blue pilled, you think you're putting forth this great shit when its shit we've all already heard.

She wants the D, she will be given one. She doesn't want the D, then keep your dignity send the foid packing, rather than "fight" for her as you suggested. Better incel than cuck.

Retard :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

Can you not read, maybe I typed too many words for your tiny brain, its because of what you said here is literally why I claimed ascension is pointless, because you are going to have to "fight" to keep the girl around, that's why I said its pointless trying to ascend, pump and dump isn't pump and dump if you remain sexually starved for months or years after the dump part, so the "just let her leave" part doesn't work out, its just a waste of time.

Are you blind or something?, do you not get context. Spend less time boasting when you come into a thread and more time reading, and you won't miss obvious shit smh

You get my point.
Wouldn't one stop replying if he could :feelshmm::feelsthink:
 
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Yes, for incels who aren't egoists and blinded by ego, this is a reliable solution and path to happiness, for guys like you, IDK tough luck, you'll have to get over yourself first before you finally descend.

So you're saying that inceldom is solvable by escortceling.

Okay guys, you heard the man. If you've got $300, you don't have to be here any more, you can ascend this afternoon. Mods you can shut this site down, genius here has figured out what normies have been telling us since day #1, just hire prostitutes bro.


You ever ask yourself why you want to feel desired, do you think the colonizers of the past really gave a fuck or did they just go to different places and rape and impregnate their women?
Way back in the past, men didn't care very much for that shit, because the prerequisite for sex, was power, that was it, and the average man was more powerful than the average woman, you could just raid a village and take a bitch, get her pregnant, she can't abort the child anyways. You ever think about how much rape there is in human ancestry?

Jfl if you think rape (even if you can get away with it) is in any way comparable to sex with a woman that wants you.


So no guys, please stop with this blue pilled BS, driven by your ego, and your psyche that has been influenced by modern standards of masculinity, which are ironically feminine, because the men of the past did not really care much for this shit, and that's because they had different prerequisites to worry about.

No, you stop. You have decided you want to escortcel and are trying to build a belief system around it, fine, whatever. You know where r/MGTOW is so why don't you fuck off there? According to you there is no reason for anyone to be here if they have a decent income, because fucking a whore who despises you is equivalent to being with a girl that wants you, and the need to be loved and desired is just a feminist bluepilled invention?


For me its because being sexually desired is the prerequisite to getting sex, and I just want sex.

Fine, what's stopping you? Why are you even here? From SergeantInce's thread Intro to Incels
Why don't you go to an escort?
While some people do go to escorts, sex isn't the main point of inceldom, as already stated.
So you disagree, fine... but you don't belong here if you believe escortceling is the answer.
 
Its not bias when the person literally does everything you expected of them, that was indeed humble bragging, and they first thing you said in this thread was extremely blue pilled and showed that you could never really relate to an incel.



JFL, huge black pill........... you mean basic level common sense shit that has already been mentioned on this site ad nauseum:

An entire thread about it: https://incels.is/threads/anything-worse-than-missing-out-on-teen-love.91094/

Various Posts:








JFL at HUGE BLACK PILL, that's the problem with "black pilled normies", you never have anything new to contribute because you aren't black pilled, you are just normies, you're blue pilled, you think you're putting forth this great shit when its shit we've all already heard.



Retard :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

Can you not read, maybe I typed too many words for your tiny brain, its because of what you said here is literally why I claimed ascension is pointless, because you are going to have to "fight" to keep the girl around, that's why I said its pointless trying to ascend, pump and dump isn't pump and dump if you remain sexually starved for months or years after the dump part, so the "just let her leave" part doesn't work out, its just a waste of time.

Are you blind or something?, do you not get context. Spend less time boasting when you come into a thread and more time reading, and you won't miss obvious shit smh

You're really losing it, man.

If you want to be honest with yourself, everything we say in this forum is basic common sense, and we repeat it ad nauseam. It's basically "Looks are everything, and we're all fucked".

You're cool with everyone else repeating this common sense, but seem to have a problem only when I post it.

You're pretty fucking toxic, and if hating on "blackpilled normies" helps you then keep doing it, but know that by doing so you're being a FOID WORSHIPPING CUCK, because it's not me you should have a problem with, it's with the foids, the cucks, the media, etc.

So many enemies of yours, and you choose to hate on your ally. I bet in real life, you act beta and submissive around foids, and only reserve your aggression against your brethren on the internet.

Sad.
 
So you're saying that inceldom is solvable by escortceling.

You'd still be incel, but at least you'd have moderately consistent access to sex.

the need to be loved and desired is just a feminist bluepilled invention?

Yes, men in the past didn't give care much about that shit, in fact go back far enough and marriages were mostly about creating alliances or making deals, especially when it came to joining tribes, etc. "Love" isn't real anyways

Fine, what's stopping you? Why are you even here?
Oh yeah I forgot, I got an email today, somebody sent me 20k to my paypal and just gave me one of their businesses, shit just works out I guess.

Did you not read a thing I said?

When I get my life to be at that point, I doubt i'll ever be browsing this site again other than the occasional thread to urge other men to "descend", maybe once a month.

so you're asking why I'm here, I haven't reached "peak descension" obviously.

So you disagree, fine... but you don't belong here if you believe escortceling is the answer.

Its the answer to sexual frustration, when it comes to an overly inflated ego and sense of self worth, well it does nothing for that, I guess endlessly yearning for what you will never have (being desired) is also a good option, keep it up, it'll get better.

You're cool with everyone else repeating this common sense, but seem to have a problem only when I post it.

They repeat them, they don't refer to them as "HUGE BLACK PILLS".

They don't go around boasting about their sex lives (past or otherwise) in indirect ways

Pretty easy to be "cool" with them.

You do realize that I can only have a problem with you, so long as you keep being everything I hate about "black pilled normies", your first post on this page is exhibit A of that.

"Getting a GF is the easy part, now you have to do a bunch of shit to keep her excited and entertained so she doesn't leave you, now you've reached the hard part"

JFL at this cucked, redpilled, woman worshipping mindset. Once you ascend, your purpose is to get your dick wet as much as possible. If the foid wants the D repeatedly, good for you, if she doesn't then to hell with her. The second you get into the "I gotta work hard to keep my gf" mindset is the second you become a PUSSY WHIPPED CUCK.

Its a very blue pilled post, no incel would speak as if he can just "get another girl", like you are doing here, your post here is proof you aren't one of us, because you are speaking as someone with the confidence to just get another girl anyways.

If you stop doing shit like this, I'd have nothing bad to tell you.

Stop boasting, stop making blue pilled posts, I stop having a problem with you
 
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You're really losing it, man.

If you want to be honest with yourself, everything we say in this forum is basic common sense, and we repeat it ad nauseam. It's basically "Looks are everything, and we're all fucked".

You're cool with everyone else repeating this common sense, but seem to have a problem only when I post it.

You're pretty fucking toxic, and if hating on "blackpilled normies" helps you then keep doing it, but know that by doing so you're being a FOID WORSHIPPING CUCK, because it's not me you should have a problem with, it's with the foids, the cucks, the media, etc.

So many enemies of yours, and you choose to hate on your ally. I bet in real life, you act beta and submissive around foids, and only reserve your aggression against your brethren on the internet.

Sad.
Lol at you thinking like that. By admitting that you're a normie you're saying that you're just as degenerate, brutish and stupid as the men foids like. I don't care about foids' opinion of you, to me you're just as much of a lowlife as them.
By the way, lamenting about missed teen love goes against "Looks are everything, and we're all fucked" because you admit that teen love matters despite ugly people having had it.
 
Lol at you thinking like that. By admitting that you're a normie you're saying that you're just as degenerate, brutish and stupid as the men foids like. I don't care about foids' opinion of you, to me you're just as much of a lowlife as them.
By the way, lamenting about missed teen love goes against "Looks are everything, and we're all fucked" because you admit that teen love matters despite ugly people having had it.

Lamenting about teen love perfectly goes hand in hand with "looks are everything", because had I - or any one of us - had a different bone structure during my teens, I would have had amazing life experiences instead of being bullied and treated like shit.

Yeah right, barely becoming a "normie" after a fuckton of plastic surgeries means I'm a brutish lowlife.

Keep hating and coping, boyo.
 
You'd still be incel, but at least you'd have moderately consistent access to sex.
I wouldn't argue that getting any kind of sex is better than nothing, but same could be said about masturbation. It's not a solution despite that it gives you an orgasm and relief from horniness.


Oh yeah I forgot, I got an email today, somebody sent me 20k to my paypal and just gave me one of their businesses, shit just works out I guess.
This is not a forum for strategies for earning money, so why are you here?
If you believed lifting and "game" were the answer, I'd tell you to fuck off to r/theredpill
If you believed respecting women was the answer, I'd tell you to fuck off to r/relationships
But you believe earning money and hiring whores is the solution to inceldom, so you should go somewhere where you can learn how to make money. And why would you need $20k? Get $3k together, go to Ukraine or wherever and fuck model-tier whores for a month. Problem solved, you don't need to be here, you need to make money.


When I get my life to be at that point, I doubt i'll ever be browsing this site again other than the occasional thread to urge other men to "descend", maybe once a month.
So you're going to be coming here to tell us that hiring prostitutes is the answer? That should get you a preemptive ban.
 
I wouldn't argue that getting any kind of sex is better than nothing, but same could be said about masturbation.

No, not at all, it isn't even close. I got tired of porn years ago, its just the temporary stand in sexual release until I can escortcel. It really isn't good enough, the first and only time I went and paid for sex was because of how tired I got of porn. Its gets boring, never as good as the first 3 years when you started masturbating.

But you believe earning money and hiring whores is the solution to inceldom

I'll quote myself because you must be blind, I literally just told you:
You'd still be incel, but at least you'd have moderately consistent access to sex.

In fact you quoted it, it won't solve inceldom, but at least you won't be sex starved, you'd still be incel. Lets not have to keep addressing this same point over and over.

That should get you a preemptive ban.

JFL at this passive aggression, I'm going to tell men prostitutes are better than being sex starved and suicidal, you can't argue with that.
 
In fact you quoted it, it won't solve inceldom, but at least you won't be sex starved, you'd still be incel. Lets not have to keep addressing this same point over and over.

No no no, here's what you wrote in the OP:
My version of "ascension", I call it "descension", since I hated the term "ascension" for what it is used for (chasing a cope), and I wanted my concept of "success" after an incel life to be in opposition of that.
You clearly meant it as a permanent solution for inceldom.

You do know we all know about escorts, right?
You do know we all know about MGTOW, right?
And I don't mind escortceling or MGTOW, but this is not the place to spread that mindset.
Are you trying to shame us for suffering because we are unloved and unwanted? Like we're stupid for not being happy with dutiful transactional sex with women who despise us. Sorry, but I believe life is next to worthless if you're not loved by a woman, and that hiring a whore won't address any unhappiness we feel. If all you want is sex, hire a whore today but don't try to shame us for not being as simpleminded as you are.

If you believe solution is X, go to a forum where X is discussed, don't bring X here like we've never considered it.
 

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