Blackpill "Black Pilled Normie" Is An Oxymoron, They All Have "Residual Blue Pill" Affecting Their Logic

[BlkPillPres]

Every "black pilled normie" I have encountered on this site has said that female validation is important, some even going as far to say that paying for sex is a waste of time, you should only pursue sex if you can get it with female validation)

Nobody who refers to themselves as a "black pilled normie" should be allowed on this site, its an oxymoron.

This thread here is Exhibit A of this - https://incels.is/threads/if-sexbot...would-you-still-need-female-validation.90585/

Question Asked - "If sexbots or other credible replacements were real, would you still need female validation?"

Answer of a know black pilled normie -

Anyone who says no is a coper badass wannabe faggot

My Response (which he did not address)

As expected blue pilled @Zyros is here to say he's black pilled while ironically at the same time pedestalizing females (indirectly, maybe he doesn't realize that's what he's doing).

No Zyros, anyone who says yes is blue pilled and has somehow deluded themselves into accepting an obvious contradiction. Its completely contradictory to both acknowledge that women are basically instinct driven and illogical, and yet somehow value whether or not they admire you or think highly of you. They are basically like an AI running lines of code, Zyros, would you care if an AI, something that has no true concept of reality and merely does what its "code" dictates, cares about you? (I doubt it).

Of what value is its evaluation of you, when it as no true sense of self. Blue pilled idiots like you contradict yourself all the time, in your rhetoric you devalue women as an existence, while at the same time claiming that their evaluation of you is something that matters (do you see the obvious contradiction yet Zyros?).

That would be like me saying I have a broken mirror, yet I trust its ability to give me an accurate reflection. One should only value the evaluation given by someone relative to how much they value the logical integrity of said person, in other words Zyros, if you truly believe everything the black pill says, then aren't you putting stake in the competency of a group of individuals you yourself deem as incompetent?

I don't see how someone can both claim to be black pilled and at the same time value female validation or believe in "love". That's a direct contraction, if you are black pilled you know female validation isn't worth shit, and you know love doesn't exist, its just chemical reactions in the brain, so why would you chase after it or want it. It doesn't make any sense.

TBH I have never wanted female validation, maybe that's because I'm autistic, I've only ever wanted physical interactions with them, first I wanted to kiss, and the years went on sex, but never once did I ever feel bad about "not being loved/liked" or felt like something was "missing".

I always saw female validation as the PREREQUISITE to get sex NOT THE GOAL ITSELF. Sex should be the goal (if you are black pilled).

if I can escortcel with ease, that would make me set for life, i'll leave blue pilled desires to the blue pilled.

All I ever see "black pilled normies" post is shit that revolves around their egoism, because they've tasted too much of the blue pilled world, they are a normie at heart, so their logic will always be inherently blue pilled.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BLACK PILLED NORMIE

I doubt he's going to reply, you'll notice a reoccurring theme on this site, all the "black pilled normies" that are allowed on this site, from @Zyros , to @catfishman23 , all say this one same thing, that female validation is important, all of them have had multiple relationships and had sex with multiple women.

They don't realize that none of us here have had any of the experiences they had, in order to even build up a "sense of necessity" for female validation. There is no such thing as a "black pilled normie", they are all inherently blue pilled because they have lived to long in the blue pilled world, their logic has been corrupted and there's always a touch of illogical emotion there, making their logic inherently flawed

You don't know how many times I've argued with catfishman for what Zyros is saying here, it doesn't surprise me he's saying the same shit, guys like this should not be on this site, its like hving a sleeper agent amongst us, they are blue pilled and the scary part is they don't even know, they legitimately think they are black pilled.

This also reminds me of another thread I made, about the "residual blue pill" a lot of these guys have, I call it "Vestigial Bluepill Syndrome"
https://incels.is/threads/many-ince...g-with-vestigial-bluepill-syndrome-vbs.30628/

 

[Blackpilled_Normie]

Every "black pilled normie" I have encountered on this site has said that female validation is important

I dare you to find a post of mine that says that female validation is important.

 

[hearmeout]

Blackpilled normie in that context means being normal looking and blackpilled. Do you seriously think these things cant go together?

 

[1984cel]

Great post. ‘Blackpilled normies’ eventually spill the beans with their bluepill nonsense.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I dare you to find a post of mine that says that female validation is important.

I said everyone I have encountered, also just because you didn't post something doesn't mean you don't think it in real life, so far every self admitted black pilled normie has said this to me and I have argued with them for it.

So i'll just ask you, what do you think about female validation, is it something that you chase after or value, or are you just after what it is the prerequisite to (sex)?

 

[hearmeout]

Every "black pilled normie" I have encountered on this site has said that female validation is important

So what? Its wrong because its not truecels saying that? You wouldnt even be on this site if females validated you, stop coping so hard and deluding yourself.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Blackpilled normie in that context means being normal looking and blackpilled. Do you seriously think these things cant go together?

No, it doesn't just mean being "normal looking", there are a lot of average looking incels, there are also average looking normies, being a normie isn't specifically linked to looks, its linked to life experience, whether you had a social life or not, or even previous romantic experience. For example catfishman has boasted having sex with at least 35 women and virgin shamed men on discored while boasting this.

Zyros has boasted to me in an argument that he has never really had to pay for anything during a date and he still got laid. Are you getting the point, normie doesn't mean normal looking, it means you've had social and romantic success. Anyone claiming to be a normie while they are a socially inept virgin yis a retard who is coping hard.

So what? Its wrong because its not truecels saying that? You wouldnt even be on this site if females validated you, stop coping so hard and deluding yourself.

1. You are using the term coping wrong, I don't think you even understand what the term means at this point, coping implies you are doing something to "feel better" or ignore an uncomfortable truth, so please validate your BS usage of this term and tell me how what I'm saying here makes me feel better and/or ignore an uncomfortable truth

2. Wrong, validation means nothing to me, sex does, I would still visit this site if I could escortcel, but not as much. I do plan on starting at some point.

 

[angrytreeclimber]

So a normie who has had sex, perhaps has children however totally relates to you because he has experienced much of the same bullshit in life that you have experienced is not worthy of the blackpill?

 

[hearmeout]

normie doesn't mean normal looking

i always saw it as having one definition looksbased as normal looking, and one definition mentally. If you mean the mental definition than i understand where you are coming from. But i have to disagree with you anyways.

tell me how what I'm saying here makes me feel better

Saying validation shouldnt be a goal of an incel. I think its a normal human desire to feel validated by the opposite gender. Plus it is more longterm than having sex with someone. Feeling validated lasts longer.
So you are making yourself feel better by telling yourself you dont need validation, which is a cope.

I hope i have answered the question enough.

2. Wrong, validation means nothing to me, sex does, I would still visit this site if I could escortcel, but not as much. I do plan on starting at some point

You are contradicting urself

You are contradicting urself

let me elab why:
you are still visiting this site even if you start escortcelling.
You will have sex, but no validation. Thus you still visit this site

Now imagine having a girl truly appreciating you, loving you and being in a relationship with you. You might still visit this site. But its less likely

 

[Michael15651]

I only say female validation is important for white knights, but that's pretty obvious.

 

[hearmeout]

What do you guys even mean with validation?

You mean woman giving you a pat on the back and earning yourself husband/goodboy points.

Or do you mean validation as in how foids validate chad by truely appreciating him and finding him attractive

I think this is an important distinction to make in this thread

 

[BlkPillPres]

i always saw it as having one definition looksbased as normal looking, and one definition mentally. If you mean the mental definition than i understand where you are coming from. But i have to disagree with you anyways.

If normal looking is your definition, as in average looking, then by your definition, everyone who isn't a trucel, absolute subhuman looking like a they have a physical defect, is not an incel, because they are normal looking, they are all normies by your defintion, are you seeing the problem now by claiming that normie refers to looking normal.

Saying validation shouldnt be a goal of an incel. I think its a normal human desire to feel validated by the opposite gender.

Well I'm autistic so I guessed I lucked out with that in a way, I've never really wanted validation, to me its always been the prerequisite to get sex, that's the only reason I've tried to get it, if I could open a lock without the key, I would not bother searching for the key.

Plus it is more longterm than having sex with someone. Feeling validated lasts longer.

Here's the thing, being an egoist is very blue pilled, its blue pilled mindset, a black piller should abandon their ego, it will only hold them back, and bring them suffering.
So you are making yourself feel better by telling yourself you dont need validation, which is a cope.

I hope i have answered the question enough.

You are contradicting urself

let me elab why:
you are still visiting this site even if you start escortcelling.
You will have sex, but no validation. Thus you still visit this site

Now imagine having a girl truly appreciating you, loving you and being in a relationship with you. You might still visit this site. But its less likely

No contradiction actually, i'll be visiting because:

1. I'd still be incel, I'd only be getting sex from whores because I pay them

2. I enjoy some of the posts on this site, its like a form of entertainment

3. To spread my version of the black pill, there might me men looking for escort tips, etc. When I start escortcelling, I plan on contacting @11gaijin for tips, he's known for being a veteran in this. I think he even went to Thailand or something, I also plan on going there one day to escortcel, I won't know the lay of the land, info on where to go and how to operate would be useful.

do you mean validation as in how foids validate chad by truely appreciating him and finding him attractive

Yes, this one, this is the one I always hear black pilled normies referring to as somethin fucking incels should be chasing after knowing full well we don't have a chance, but they usually have past romantic successes, so they don't realize that the "dependencies" they built up for that validation because they received it, is non-existent to us, we don't have those "dependencies" because we never experienced it, and they are coming with their blue pilled asses trying to spread that mindset to men who can never live up to it, its really fucked up.

 

[Zyros]

If you think sexbotx, paying for sex or anything that does not involve getting not only sex, but respect, validation and aknowgledgement as equal instead of inferior Only and ONLY trought your inherent value, is not a major stupid useless cope, you are the one who is bluepilled beyond salvation.

AND YES, EVERYONE NEEDS VALIDATION, ITS A FUCKING PRIMAL INSTINCT TO WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE A HUMAN BEING AND NOT DISCRIMINATED BASED ON OUR INHERENT QUALITIES, AND ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO NOT BE AFFECTED BY ONE OF THE MOST BASIC INSTINCTS AS GREGARIOUS ANIMALS WE ARE IS A MAJOR COPER AND LARPER

 

[BlkPillPres]

If you think sexbotx, paying for sex or anything that does not involve getting not only sex, but respect, validation and aknowgledgement as equal instead of inferior Only and ONLY trought your inherent value, is not a major stupid useless cope, you are the one who is bluepilled beyond salvation.

AND YES, EVERYONE NEEDS VALIDATION, ITS A FUCKING PRIMAL INSTINCT TO WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE A HUMAN BEING AND NOT DISCRIMINATED BASED ON OUR INHERENT QUALITIES, AND ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO NOT BE AFFECTED BY ONE OF THE MOST BASIC INSTINCTS AS GREGARIOUS ANIMALES WE ARE IS A MAJOR COPER AND LARPER

1. Appeal to nature fallacy - I like how black pilled normies like to appeal to nature to validate their blue pilled mindset, yet they won't give women the same excuse for their current actions. Its primal instinct for women to chase chad too, and as you know humans are mindless animals incapable of introspective thought and understanding their faults and making a choice to do the opposite, so you have to give women a pass too for being Chad chasers, I mean, its not as if humans are animals that can act against our own instincts by choosing to do so because were intelligent (obvious sarcasm)

If you can get mad at roasts not fighting against their instincts and having reasonable standards (dating their looksmatch), then you should also get mad at people who are being mindlessly driven by their instinct to chase after validation and not simply defying that instinct. Especially people claiming to be black pilled

2. I'll ask again, guys like you will speak of women like they aren't worth shit and they are stupid, while at the same time arguing that their validation (their evaluation of you) is worth something. That is completely contradictory, stop trying to skip over time point and not address it.

How can you claim a mirror is broken, while at the same time claiming you but stake in its ability to show your reflection. Isn't the reflection by default also as flawed as the mirror, and if so why do you value that reflection? (are you getting the point of the analogy you blue pilled retard)

Pick a damn side, pick a logical stance, you guys are always all over the place with your logic, its never consistent.

 

[hearmeout]

Yes, this one, this is the one I always hear black pilled normies referring to as somethin fucking incels should be chasing after know full well we don't have a chance, but they usually have past romantic successes, so they don't realize the "dependencies" they built up for that validation because they received it, we don't have that shit because we never experienced it, and they are coming with their blue pilled asses trying to spread that mindset to men who can never live up to it, its really fucked up.

I think of it this way, the people telling you that validation should be our dream, are not only normies but also incels. Because most of us know how it must feel to be validated at some point. Granted though most of us will never be able to feel this if not after some serious looksmaxx before age 26. It is sadly not the timelime for incels i guess

 

[Disillusioned]

Normies are fucking retards to be honest. I am 99% convinced that personality is almost purely genetic at this point and that self-aware blackpill incels must be some kind of weird genetic anomaly that only exists in like 1 out of every few thousand people or some shit.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I am 99% convinced that personality is almost purely genetic at this point and that self-aware blackpill incels must be some kind of weird genetic anomaly that only exists in like 1 out of every few thousand people or some shit.

I really hope that isn't true because that shit is actually scary, and it means we basically are stuck in a matrix full of "NPC's"

 

[Zyros]

1. Appeal to nature fallacy - I like how black pilled normies like to appeal to nature to validate their blue pilled mindset, yet they won't give women the same excuse for their current actions. Its primal instinct for women to chase chad too, and as you know humans are mindless animals incapable of introspective thought and understanding their faults and making a choice to do the opposite, so you have to give women a pass too for being Chad chaser, I mean, its not as if humans are animals that can act against our own instincts by choosing to do so (obvious sarcasm)

Its extremely ironic that you label the biggest nature hater in this site as a wileder of appeal to nature fallacy. The fact that I hate nature doesn't mean im free of instincts like survival, libido, gregariousness or warmth. And again im not only talking about women. Validation is not only getting women. Validation means not being absolutely hindered in all areas of life, from socializing to law to work because of your genetics. EVERYONE wants validation. I would bet my right hand that if tomorrow some women suddenly acted genuinely attracted to you you would LOVE it despite hating nature. If you think we can get rid completely off our instincts you are deluded, despite we being able to have based opinions which are contrary to nature. You can hate the fact that fire burns, but it won't stop burning if you touch it.

If you can get mad at roasts not fighting against their instincts and having reasonable standards (dating their looksmatch), then you should also get mad at people who are being mindlessly driven by their instinct to chase after validation and not simply defying that instinct. Especially people claiming to be black pilled

Again, validation is not only about women, women are a part of it. Again validation means greater things in life, such as not being disadvantaged in every situation

2. I'll ask again, guys like you will speak of women like they aren't worth shit and they are stupid, while at the same time arguing that their validation (their evaluation of you) is worth something. That is completely contradictory, stop trying to skip over time point and not address it.

How can you claim a mirror is broken, while at the same time claiming you but stake in its ability to show your reflection. Isn't the reflection by default also as flawed as the mirror, and if so why do you value that reflection? (are you getting the point of the analogy you blue pilled retard)

Pick a damn side, pick a logical stance, you guys are always all over the place with your logic, its never consistent.

I have picked my side, i never contradicted myself. The only way to fight instincts is by modifyng us as a species directly, not trough copes like paying for sex, sex dolls, patriarchy and shit. That don't change the fact that you will still be seen as inferior (And again and again, not talking about women but all situations in life) and treated like shit. You can hate the system but still want to be at least on its good side if you can't still beat it, specially if being on its bad or its good side doesn't depend on you but is absolutely out of control. If you were able to choose, would you rather be born a german or a jew in nazi germany, despite knowing nazis did fuck up the jews? That's what Im talking about.

I really hope that isn't true because that shit is actually scary, and it means we basically are stuck in a matrix full of "NPC's"

Also this "normie are NPC im the enlightened one" is r/imaverysmart tier material

 

[Mainländer]

Well @Leucosticte is a "blackpilled normie" (I don't think anything containing "normie" really describes someone like him accurately, but w/e) and he's one of the most blackpilled and uncucked persons on this whole forum.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Well @Leucosticte is a "blackpilled normie" (I don't think anything containing "normie" really describes someone like him accurately, but w/e) and he's one of the most blackpilled and uncucked persons on this whole forum.

I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, but the majority of them that I've been exposed to believe the same blue pilled BS I mentioned.

 

[Mainländer]

I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, but the majority of them that I've been exposed to believe the same blue pilled BS I mentioned.

Technically speaking, even though @Leucosticte is not a virgin, I think he currently classifies as an incel since his wife divorceraped him a while back and as far as I know he hasn't been having sex since then. I don't know the exact amount of time but probably months.

Also, he, like me, was hit hard by the Noorwood reaper and agepill effects in general.

He's hardly comparable to @Zyros which is a young Chadlite right now.

 

[Disillusioned]

Also this "normie are NPC im the enlightened one" is r/imaverysmart tier material

Why is that so hard to believe? Consider the laughable number of people who are responsible for almost all worthwhile inventions/art in all of human history. Even the majority of high IQ people aren't doing much of note with that intelligence.

I know this is going to sound like a trivial example but.........game devs.

Unity 3D has been downloaded millions of times, and that isn't even counting all the other game dev tools. Yet the number of good Unity games that have been produced in the last 10 years can probably be counted on both hands. That's maybe a few dozen noteworthy games for the MILLIONS of downloads Unity has obtained. And it's the same for almost everything else.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Technically speaking, even though @Leucosticte is not a virgin, I think he currently classifies as an incel since his wife divorceraped him a while back and as far as I know he hasn't been having sex since then. I don't know the exact amount of time but probably months.

Sorry I like him, but i can't really consider guys like this incel, for incels its like "the game never began", for guys like him "the game did begin", they just "lost at the game".

In another sense I'm wrong because it depends on how old he is, if he was dating in a generation before hypergamy got to the point where men can't get their looksmatch, then yes I would say he was incel, he was just born in a time good enough to where even a man with low tier looks had a chance, and now as time has progressed he is feeling the brunt of what is the norm for us in the modern generation.

Just realized were all just "eracels", we were born in the wrong era.

He's hardly comparable to @Zyros which is a young Chadlite right now.

True, have you seen this guys jaw and facial structure JFL, how the fuck is he on this site, I swear some of these guys are literally just here for sadistic reasons, to get off on feeling superior, no way you look like that and struggle to get laid, the guy is larping.

 

[Mainländer]

Sorry I like him, but i can't really consider guys like this incel, for incels its like "the game never began", for guys like him "the game did begin", they just "lost at the game".

In another sense I'm wrong because it depends on how old he is, if he was dating in a generation before hypergamy got to the point where men can't get their looksmatch, then yes I would say he was incel, he was just born in a time good enough to where even a man with low tier looks had a chance, and now as time has progressed he is feeling the brunt of what is the norm of us in the modern generation.

That's why I like the "truecel" subdivision.

If we only call KHHVs to whom it never began incels and exclude everyone else, then incels are a tiny minority, which is something I don't like tbh. I think incels are the forefront of the manosphere right now i.e. the subdivision of it which has the most potential. To me, inceldom is more about being and ugly and low status male standing up against a society in which you're a pariah than discussing whether or not some ugly sexually frustrated guy is an incel or not because he kissed a landwhale 5 years ago or betabuxxed some greencard nonwhite whore once.

So, to me:

Truecel: KHHVs to whom it never began
Incel: can't get laid without paying right now regardless of what happened years ago. Must be average or below in terms of looks (or else it's a mentalcel at best).

 

[11gaijin]

If normal looking is your definition, as in average looking, then by your definition, everyone who isn't a trucel, absolute subhuman looking like a they have a physical defect, is not an incel, because they are normal looking, they are all normies by your defintion, are you seeing the problem now by claiming that normie refers to looking normal.



Well I'm autistic so I guessed I lucked out with that in a way, I've never really wanted validation, to me its always been the prerequisite to get sex, that's the only reason I've tried to get it, if I could open a lock without the key, I would not bother searching for the key.



Here's the thing, being an egoist is very blue pilled, its blue pilled mindset, a black piller should abandon their ego, it will only hold them back, and bring them suffering.
So you are making yourself feel better by telling yourself you dont need validation, which is a cope.

I hope i have answered the question enough.



No contradiction actually, i'll be visiting because:

1. I'd still be incel, I'd only be getting sex from whores because I pay them

2. I enjoy some of the posts on this site, its like a form of entertainment

3. To spread my version of the black pill, there might me men looking for escort tips, etc. When I start escortcelling, I plan on contacting @11gaijin for tips, he's known for being a veteran in this. I think he even went to Thailand or something, I also plan on going there one day to escortcel, I won't know the lay of the land, info on where to go and how to operate would be useful.



Yes, this one, this is the one I always hear black pilled normies referring to as somethin fucking incels should be chasing after knowing full well we don't have a chance, but they usually have past romantic successes, so they don't realize that the "dependencies" they built up for that validation because they received it, is non-existent to us, we don't have those "dependencies" because we never experienced it, and they are coming with their blue pilled asses trying to spread that mindset to men who can never live up to it, its really fucked up.

Sure man, always ready to help

 

[Of Manlets and Men]

Normies can only be blue or red pilled. The blackpill is a recognition of the overwhelming despair that incel-tier men face, and only those who actually have to suffer through it can truly understand it.

 

[Father_Gascoigne]

Agree, High IQ

 

[minecraft]

If you think sexbotx, paying for sex or anything that does not involve getting not only sex, but respect, validation and aknowgledgement as equal instead of inferior Only and ONLY trought your inherent value, is not a major stupid useless cope, you are the one who is bluepilled beyond salvation.

AND YES, EVERYONE NEEDS VALIDATION, ITS A FUCKING PRIMAL INSTINCT TO WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE A HUMAN BEING AND NOT DISCRIMINATED BASED ON OUR INHERENT QUALITIES, AND ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO NOT BE AFFECTED BY ONE OF THE MOST BASIC INSTINCTS AS GREGARIOUS ANIMALS WE ARE IS A MAJOR COPER AND LARPER

Poor you.

You get laid, stop fucking complaining, fuck off back to lookism.

 

[Mogged Loner]

You can try and blackpill a normie, but if he runs out after and gets cucked by the first roastie that smiled at him, it obviously didn’t work.

 

[randomguy1235]

Disagree. I'm upper-tier normie in terms of looks but I'm extremely blackpilled (truth seeking) and don't delude myself with inane bluepilled garbage

 

[happiless]

 

[Tempus Edax Rerum]