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It is a sticky one for sure, but I could see why they would censor those words. We cant change the way people view us aside from clearing the waters that arent actually bloodthirsty killers.
Clearing the waters? The entire source has been muddy since day 1. We fight from a source of truth that is reviled by the majority and that truth leads us to make our own various conclusions on how things should be and how to continue on with our lives if we choose to do so. Wether we decide to simply LDAR or take to the streets and schools, the court of public opinion will always be against us
 
Clearing the waters? The entire source has been muddy since day 1. We fight from a source of truth that is reviled by the majority and that truth leads us to make our own various conclusions on how things should be and how to continue on with our lives if we choose to do so. Wether we decide to simply LDAR or take to the streets and schools, the court of public opinion will always be against us
that's why we should have no shame
 
that's why we should have no shame
If anyone actually has plans to change society for the benefit of incels, they will be unable to do it under the banner of Inceldom
 
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So saying "go ER" is officially against the rules now?

I'll be talking to the rest of the mods about this later today when we all have time to be sure we're all on the same page.

We had a discussion a few months ago and it was agreed by all in that discussion that spamming "go er" was a violation of the low effort and spam rules. Thus we were in agreement it was already against those rules. There was mixed opinion on whether it counted as inciting violence, which is also against the rules. But we didn't get into that subject in detail.

We have now seen clearly from numerous examples that legal systems and governments are eager to classify this type of posting not as a meme but as inciting violence, which would thus allow them to legally recharacterize the site as a "radicalization forum" and thus take far more dramatic actions against us than they would otherwise be capable of.

We will have to discuss the potential long term ramifications of this issue and whether a "meme" is worth that on that level. I will get back to you once we've discussed adequately with the final verdict.

One should note that in my observation 90% of the "go er" posts are from the same 5-10 spammers who spam it on every thread.

Keep in mind no matter what the content, if you write the same two word reply hundreds of times over and over in response to varying threads instead of individualized responses this will always count as spam and low effort as that is by definition what it is.
 
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I'll be talking to the rest of the mods about this later today when we all have time to be sure we're all on the same page.

We had a discussion a few months ago and it was agreed by all in that discussion that spamming "go er" was a violation of the low effort and spam rules. Thus we were in agreement it was already against those rules. There was mixed opinion on whether it counted as inciting violence, which is also against the rules. But we didn't get into that subject in detail.

We have now seen clearly from numerous examples that legal systems and governments are eager to classify this type of posting not as a meme but as inciting violence, which would thus allow them to legally recharacterize the site as a "radicalization forum" and thus take far more dramatic actions against us than they would otherwise be capable of.

We will have to discuss the potential long term ramifications of this issue and whether a "meme" is worth that on that level. I will get back to you once we've discussed adequately with the final verdict.

One should note that in my observation 90% of the "go er" posts are from the same 5-10 spammers who spam it on every thread.

Keep in mind no matter what the content, if you write the same two word reply hundreds of times over and over in response to varying threads instead of individualized responses this will always count as spam and low effort as that is by definition what it is.
Go ER

jk those are some good points tbh
 
We have now seen clearly from numerous examples that legal systems and governments are eager to classify this type of posting not as a meme but as inciting violence, which would thus allow them to legally recharacterize the site as a "radicalization forum" and thus take far more dramatic actions against us than they would otherwise be capable of.
Is this forum hosted in the US? If so, why would we need to follow laws of other countries?
 
Is this forum hosted in the US? If so, why would we need to follow laws of other countries?

This type of point and others are the ones the mods and admin will need to discuss in more detail. Keep in mind though that America has strict rules about "domestic terrorism" and if that is the direction that governments and police are looking to categorize us, there are very few places that would be safe. It will depend on the willingness and eagerness of higher admin to tackle legal challenges in this level likely within the next few years over what is essentially just a few shitposts. Or individuals' willingness to defend their posts legally. They are attempting to use those shitposts as a weapon against us that can allow them to categorize us on the same level as an Al Qaeda or ISIS forum.

Personally I spend a lot of time thinking about the future, and this is not something I think is so worthwhile as to risk that. This is fundamentally a forum for lonely men to talk about our sexual and romantic failures. There is nothing anyone can do about that however distasteful they find it. But once you give people enough material to say a forum is doing something far more sinister, all bets are off. Free speach laws in America do not have a special exception for allowing "incitement of domestic terrorism." It doesn't matter whether YOU think that's what you're doing or not. All that matters is whether a cop, judge, or politician can be convinced that that is what it is. That is a dangerous territory to live in.
 
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He was getting featured a lot on IT lately that's probably why
I’ve never understood that. Obviously someone could easily make an account and screenshot it for precious reddit karma but a cucktear could use that to their advantage and purposely target a user they want banned.
 
Unban me pliz
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AncapFAG
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The ban was required and temporary, the story of the one itis was a troll to have a credible excuse to temporarily disappear (in fact I am mgtow lol) then I turned 18 recently and I'm still hkv and I'm autistic. From that returns your favorite Italian user who uses Google translate lel:feelsautistic::heart:
 
free the fellow italiancel @AncapFAG
@knajjd.
his english is too funny...
 
LOL @ the mod claiming spamming "go er" is low effort

"go er" is higher effort than any of ritalins 15k posts, that phrase alone is more original and contains more characters than any post of his, that kid shouldve been warned 15k+ times over and perma banned years ago
 
@TheGambler2
So hes finally back huh?
LOL @ the mod claiming spamming "go er" is low effort

"go er" is higher effort than any of ritalins 15k posts, that phrase alone is more original and contains more characters than any post of his, that kid shouldve been warned 15k+ times over and perma banned years ago
Hope you enjoy your verbal boyo
 
free the fellow italiancel @AncapFAG
@knajjd.
his english is too funny...
Don't free fakecels with "face with style and harmony".
Thanks @knajjd for keeping this forum clean of fakecel scum, even though it makes you look like Mod-Hitler 2.0.
 
Unban me pliz
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AncapFAG
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JoinedNov 11, 2018Messages884
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The ban was required and temporary, the story of the one itis was a troll to have a credible excuse to temporarily disappear (in fact I am mgtow lol) then I turned 18 recently and I'm still hkv and I'm autistic. From that returns your favorite Italian user who uses Google translate lel:feelsautistic::heart:
Thanks knajid for keeping this worm banned. GJ.
 
@AncapFAG is a chadlite though, not exactly an incel
 
Why is @BummerDrummer banned? What did he do?
 
Free @BummerDrummer

Me and him were just starting to chat more often too..:feelsbadman:
 
mass PM spam on the discord chat along with others. this is an attack on the forum itself and shows malevolence, and so they go.
It isn't pm spam if users agree with it, what is this bs knajd? I though discord was apart from this
 
Free @BummerDrummer did literally nothing wrong

BAN @cocksucker gay poster
 
mass PM spam on the discord chat along with others. this is an attack on the forum itself and shows malevolence, and so they go.
The discord has turned into r9k, what's the deal with hating that place and trying to distance ourselves from it if we are just doing literally the same thing as those people did. Behind every ironic trap/faggot post there is a tranny with an agenda. All those faggots on r9k could as well dismiss it as irony, does that nullify the damage it does?
FaggotR9kOperation
 
Reiko 2.0?! :giga:
that's not our server, in case you think so.

The discord has turned into r9k, what's the deal with hating that place and trying to distance ourselves from it if we are just doing literally the same thing as those people did. Behind every ironic trap/faggot post there is a tranny with an agenda. All those faggots on r9k could as well dismiss it as irony, does that nullify the damage it does?
there is only obvious banter there, nothing more. anyone who's known me for any period of time knows i despise trannies. the very act of conversing with a gay makes me uncomfortable, even. i've gotten rid of one, "Lachowski", just a few days ago. those people hate the server simply because "anime bad", nothing more.

oh, also, reminder that anyone who posts on behalf of a banned user will receive a warning. i'll know.
 
I'd just like to elaborate a bit further on my perspective on the potential issue at hand which has come to prominence in the news in the past few weeks. By law, freedom of speech ends where the government begins their definition of hate speech or speech that incites terrorism/violence. That's the issue in contention. The law is based on the government definition, not each individual's personal moral compass.

Many people here consider this type of thing just "a joke." Maybe it is. I honestly don't know since I can't read your minds. But we have seen mounting evidence that numerous world governments are trying to relabel the incel community as a terrorist organization, and they are succeeding at doing so solely on the basis of these "jokes."

Eggman, for example, was recently brought before the FBI and told his music represented "inciting domestic terrorism" and he was warned that he may be legally liable if he didn't stop. He stopped.

The Canadian government has now listed incels alongside right wing terrorist organizations, as if being sexless = being terrorist:
https://incels.is/threads/the-canad...cites-incels-as-right-wing-extremists.103732/

You will notice if you watch the CBC documentary, they make no discussion of ANYTHING on our site except these "jokes", claiming they are evidence of a terrorism radicalization incubator. The criminologists in the video are not interpreting them as jokes.
https://incels.is/threads/new-22-minute-cbc-documentary-on-incels-ft-us.104177/

You can also see how loosely "hate speech" can be characterized by the James Sears case:
https://incels.is/threads/jews-pers...mitri-the-lover-using-feminist-courts.103873/

Someone posted the full legal briefing which is an interesting but disturbing read and mentions "incels."

This is all for absolutely no good reason in my opinion. I don't come here to talk about mass murderers or worship them or make ER jokes. I come here to talk about the science of attraction, inceldom, and trends in society and sociology that cannot be discussed other places. Most people just come here to talk about being incel. We aren't criminals. We aren't terrorists. We live peaceful normal lives. And we don't want anything to do with the law.

To me, it seems absolutely insane to not only jeopardize the safety of the entire website, but additionally the safety of the userbase including all of us, just so a small handful of people can keep spamming "go ER" like it's some incredible thing to behold. Without that, they have nothing on us. No one can stop us from discussing being ugly or male-female dynamics, etc. But the second you allow them to characterize your forum as a radicalization site over some "bad jokes" that they aren't treating as jokes (and are ambiguous as jokes), all bets are off.

It's not about pride or shame. It's about security for the site and userbase.

The admin/mods will have to review as a group and get back to you on this, but either way, I just wanted to voice my perspective for anyone who is thinking about these issues as well.
 
Are members here really bothered by getting featured? Personally, I'd find it funny if I was featured.
i like the dopamine rush when ii get featured, i don't know why people hate it tbh
 
I'd just like to elaborate a bit further on my perspective on the potential issue at hand which has come to prominence in the news in the past few weeks. By law, freedom of speech ends where the government begins their definition of hate speech or speech that incites terrorism/violence. That's the issue in contention. The law is based on the government definition, not each individual's personal moral compass.

Many people here consider this type of thing just "a joke." Maybe it is. I honestly don't know since I can't read your minds. But we have seen mounting evidence that numerous world governments are trying to relabel the incel community as a terrorist organization, and they are succeeding at doing so solely on the basis of these "jokes."

Eggman, for example, was recently brought before the FBI and told his music represented "inciting domestic terrorism" and he was warned that he may be legally liable if he didn't stop. He stopped.

The Canadian government has now listed incels alongside right wing terrorist organizations, as if being sexless = being terrorist:
https://incels.is/threads/the-canad...cites-incels-as-right-wing-extremists.103732/

You will notice if you watch the CBC documentary, they make no discussion of ANYTHING on our site except these "jokes", claiming they are evidence of a terrorism radicalization incubator. The criminologists in the video are not interpreting them as jokes.
https://incels.is/threads/new-22-minute-cbc-documentary-on-incels-ft-us.104177/

You can also see how loosely "hate speech" can be characterized by the James Sears case:
https://incels.is/threads/jews-pers...mitri-the-lover-using-feminist-courts.103873/

Someone posted the full legal briefing which is an interesting but disturbing read and mentions "incels."

This is all for absolutely no good reason in my opinion. I don't come here to talk about mass murderers or worship them or make ER jokes. I come here to talk about the science of attraction, inceldom, and trends in society and sociology that cannot be discussed other places. Most people just come here to talk about being incel. We aren't criminals. We aren't terrorists. We live peaceful normal lives. And we don't want anything to do with the law.

To me, it seems absolutely insane to not only jeopardize the safety of the entire website, but additionally the safety of the userbase including all of us, just so a small handful of people can keep spamming "go ER" like it's some incredible thing to behold. Without that, they have nothing on us. No one can stop us from discussing being ugly or male-female dynamics, etc. But the second you allow them to characterize your forum as a radicalization site over some "bad jokes" that they aren't treating as jokes (and are ambiguous as jokes), all bets are off.

It's not about pride or shame. It's about security for the site and userbase.

The admin/mods will have to review as a group and get back to you on this, but either way, I just wanted to voice my perspective for anyone who is thinking about these issues as well.
I understand tbh. We should stop. It's for the community. Shouldn't have issued warnings for it so abruptly tho.
 

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