Discussion A thread for oldcels, who have been suffering from it before the popularity of dating apps and inflated hypergamy

[WeirdoDesperado]

What was it like to be an incel back then, were inceldom rare where you live? How did incels/you cope? Big plus if before the internet being widespread

Tagging some potential users:

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@Emba @oldcel75 @B33troot @VersoffenerAssi

 

[anon65]

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[daydreamER]

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[Roastie Crusher]

It never began for oldcels

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VTszNLwFd0

 

[Emba]

Long poast all about it

ER3 (emba radio 3) incels of the 80's & 90's

emba radio 3, incel life in the 80's & 90's this post is about the lives (and a few deaths); of various incel bros I knew in the 80's & 90's when I lived urban. TLDR and introduction... only one was blackpilled... some were rich, some we're poor, black brown and white, all were lonely. all...

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[Ryo_Hazuki]

I'm almost 40 years old, so I assume I qualify. I can remember a time before smartphones, "social media" and dating apps, but I grew up right when the internet was really taking off.

What was it like to be an incel back then

This is sort of a "timeless" thing in some ways, like getting punched in the face regardless of what year it is sucks, so does being incel.

That said, it was different in some ways because unlike zoomers, I had to learn the blackpill the hard way. I did a lot of cold approaching (and some warm approaches). You'd get in serious trouble if you did the amount of cold approaching I did in the 2000s today. Even then, I got kicked out of a mall once for cold approaching and got into 2 fights. Well, technically neither of them were "fights" as I just got knocked out once, and knocked a guy out on another occasion. On both occasions it was because I approached a woman who had a boyfriend who was there, but not right next to her at the time so I didn't know.

were inceldom rare where you live?

I can tell you Inceldom was far from "rare" back in the 2000s. I knew plenty of incels (in real life) back then.

How did incels/you cope?

Video games, anime, sports, etc. Basically the same copes a lot of incels have now.

Anyway, while dating apps certainly had an effect, I think people overestimate their impact on the dating market. Inceldom has always been a thing. Historically most men did not reproduce. This was the case even thousands of years ago, long before the industrial revolution. I noticed even in high school that guys were simps (I was a simp back then too), had no standards, and that even the worst looking obese women had lots of guys pining for her and had lots of options. Inceldom is simply a part of sexual selection. Men want women far far more than women want men, and this has always been the case.

Dating apps simply made what was already going on more obvious. Obvious to the point that denying the blackpill in 2025 is like being a flat earther.

 

[fullofchagrin]

What was it like to be an incel back then, were inceldom rare where you live? How did incels/you cope? Big plus if before the internet being widespread

Tagging some potential users:

Spoiler

@Emba @oldcel75 @B33troot @VersoffenerAssi

@unique_freak made a thread about this iirc, also about old incel forums/imageboards he was active in when the internet was relatively new

 

[UglyDumbass]

I'm almost 40 years old, so I assume I qualify. I can remember a time before smartphones, "social media" and dating apps, but I grew up right when the internet was really taking off.

This is sort of a "timeless" thing in some ways, like getting punched in the face regardless of what year it is sucks, so does being incel.

That said, it was different in some ways because unlike zoomers, I had to learn the blackpill the hard way. I did a lot of cold approaching (and some warm approaches). You'd get in serious trouble if you did the amount of cold approaching I did in the 2000s today. Even then, I got kicked out of a mall once for cold approaching and got into 2 fights. Well, technically neither of them were "fights" as I just got knocked out once, and knocked a guy out on another occasion. On both occasions it was because I approached a woman who had a boyfriend who was there, but not right next to her at the time so I didn't know.

I can tell you Inceldom was far from "rare" back in the 2000s. I knew plenty of incels (in real life) back then.

Video games, anime, sports, etc. Basically the same copes a lot of incels have now.

Anyway, while dating apps certainly had an effect, I think people overestimate their impact on the dating market. Inceldom has always been a thing. Historically most men did not reproduce. This was the case even thousands of years ago, long before the industrial revolution. I noticed even in high school that guys were simps (I was a simp back then too), had no standards, and that even the worst looking obese women had lots of guys pining for her and had lots of options. Inceldom is simply a part of sexual selection. Men want women far far more than women want men, and this has always been the case.

Dating apps simply made what was already going on more obvious. Obvious to the point that denying the blackpill in 2025 is like being a flat earther.

Was it easier to find more incels irl back then and was it easier to be friends with them?

 

[WeirdoDesperado]

I can tell you Inceldom was far from "rare" back in the 2000s. I knew plenty of incels (in real life) back then.

Long poast all about it

Thanks for the responses. I've been cold approaching occassionally too, at ages of 12-23 without getting any dates and got threatened once when I warm approached and didn't know for sure that she had a boyfriend. Never got a date by trying tinder countless of times, too and I started it during the time when normies say it's been easier to get laid by using it. It's good to know that inceldom were actually much more common than normies claim. However statistics I've seen somewhere, show that inceldom and other ways of failure with women has rapidly increased during the years when facebook became common.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

Was it easier to find more incels irl back then and was it easier to be friends with them?

Making friends (incel or otherwise) in general was way easier back then. People were a lot more sociable back then whereas these days most people are closed off, terminally online, hyper-introverted, and paranoid. A very large chunk of male zoomers lives seem to be nothing but work, class, gym, and internet (online games, social media, etc.). They seem to see nothing wrong with this either, they just want a girlfriend added into their existing life.

I'm naturally extroverted and low inhib, so I would have absolutely hated growing up in this dystopian social climate.

 

[RandomGuy]

Hypergamy has always been there. Many boomer parents cucked beyond belief .

 

[UglyDumbass]

Making friends (incel or otherwise) in general was way easier back then. People were a lot more sociable back then whereas these days most people are closed off, terminally online, hyper-introverted, and paranoid. A very large chunk of male zoomers lives seem to be nothing but work, class, gym, and internet (online games, social media, etc.). They seem to see nothing wrong with this either, they just want a girlfriend added into their existing life.

I'm naturally extroverted and low inhib, so I would have absolutely hated growing up in this dystopian social climate.

I wish i was born in those sociable times. I would have been easily been able to make friends with incels unlike now since majority of them just preferred to rot on there phones.

 

[oldcel75]

I'm about 50. There were a lot of incels, but there was no name for it except "ugly" and "weird". Young girls that time went to big parties in the big cities; age of consent was not enforced much (unless really pdf like 40 and 12), so chads had a lot of fun, there were no support groups. You basically sat at home with books or playerd ball outside.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

The advent of cell phones and mobile devices for communication was really the impetus in destroying socialization.

Before around the late 90s, it was far simpler to talk to everyone, even attractive popular people. Everyone had to walk around bored at times doing errands and such. You had opportunities, and they had to be willing to talk to people "beneath them" at times. Once girls had their pick of the litter available in their hands 24/7, that was it. And then dating apps along with social media throughout the 10s hammered the nail in the coffin for current dystopia.

 

[Phallusy]

I wish i was born in those sociable times. I would have been easily been able to make friends with incels unlike now since majority of them just preferred to rot on there phones.

Sure, but no one was parading their incel status like a badge of honor the way they do now. "Oh, you're a virgin too bro? So am I, hell yeah!" Nah, that didn't happen. Incels did exist, but like it's been said, there were no support groups, so guys just tried their best to hide it or they would lie and fake some sexual exploits. Even the most obvious incel would brag about his womanizing, his pimp status or whatever buzzword was popular at the time. Not all did that, but many of them did. Everyone knew it was bullshit. Imagine going back to 2005 and showing that era's incels snippets of what's going on today? They would think those guys from the future are retarded as hell for admitting their loserdom and fighting over each other's true incel ranking.

In some circles, however, the outgoing, popular guys who had success with girls, they would sometimes try to help out the less fortunate incel and try to help him get laid. They weren't always successful, but at least they had the incel buddy's back. It wasn't like the stereotype meme you see of Chad today where he just relentlessly bullies incels for fun and hangs out with other Chads, hit the gym and do bro stuff while getting sucked off by Stacies at the same time.

Chad also had autistic friends. Remember, Chad has nothing to lose if he befriends a loser, in fact, he has more to gain in doing so. It's actually the incel/loser that would betray his own before Chad would. Like in those movies where the loser kid has a chance to join the cool kids club, but when they question his geeky friend, loser immediately denies they're friends and rejects the geek's friendship. The incel will do anything for an opportunity. It's happened in this community as well with former members who betrayed others or quit altogether and cut ties with friends made here because of a roastie.

 

[Cnidoblastos]

I'm about 50. There were a lot of incels, but there was no name for it except "ugly" and "weird". Young girls that time went to big parties in the big cities; age of consent was not enforced much (unless really pdf like 40 and 12), so chads had a lot of fun, there were no support groups. You basically sat at home with books or playerd ball outside.

Brutal

 

[Phallusy]

The advent of cell phones and mobile devices for communication was really the impetus in destroying socialization.

Before around the late 90s, it was far simpler to talk to everyone, even attractive popular people. Everyone had to walk around bored at times doing errands and such. You had opportunities, and they had to be willing to talk to people "beneath them" at times. Once girls had their pick of the litter available in their hands 24/7, that was it. And then dating apps along with social media throughout the 10s hammered the nail in the coffin for current dystopia.

The Mayans were right about the 2012 end date. Didn't necessarily mark the end of the world, but a warning telling us it was over.

2012 was the year where social media (especially mobile) truly skyrocketed. Tinder was launched in 2012.

The Mayans called it a "New Beginning", yeah, a new beginning of death