You Will Know Them by Their Fruits - A Response to Sir Silentium

[tired as fuck]

Everybody has presuppositions you goober tard, also your whole theory falls through via TAG arguement, maybe look into it. I would debate you further but it’s obvious your a pseudo intellectual who’s arguing in bad faith to begin with.

thank you for proving my exact points.

 

[FarangInDaNang]

thank you for proving my exact points.

Imagine thinking you don’t have any presuppositions JFL, you have a presupposition that the laws of logic are universal, reliable, and intelligible. You have a presupposition that the universe is orderly and knowable through reason alone. You have a presupposition Moral / social categories like “incel,” “fakecel,” “larper,” and “forum rules” have meaning
You say you don’t want non-incels on the forum if you had power, and you find larping “weird.” This assumes objective standards exist for who belongs here. Aka a presupposition.
Your whole “I have no presuppositions, I’m pure logic and detached” shtick falls apart immediately, EVERYONE has presuppositions.

You claim you reject “tribalism” and ideology, yet you constantly smuggle in your own unstated presuppositions:

• You presuppose logic and reason are reliable tools for truth (without justifying why).

• You presuppose ataraxia / personal peace is a worthy goal worth prioritizing over community standards.

• You presuppose “tribalism” is bad while defending a position that protects fakecels — which itself is a tribal choice (team “indifferent rationalist” vs team “people who enforce rules”).

• You presuppose there should be rules against foids, gays, and fakecels (“I wouldn’t want them here if I had power”), but then refuse to care when those rules are violated. That’s contradictory.
You can’t escape presuppositions. Everyone has them. Claiming you have none while typing walls of philosophy is peak autism your trying to be a philosophy bro without even knowing philosophy nor being able to pick a set stance without contradicting yourself. That’s why TAG (Transcendental Argument) destroys your position- you need foundational beliefs to even do basic reasoning or have a coherent worldview. Thank you for proving MY point.

 

[Sir Silentium]

Do we disavow you now or after you slay?


Because your own words just now make it crystal clear:


• “Yes I have been building my house with the help of my father, and wish to move over once I get my 10yr visa approved”


• “Yes it would be heaps easier there since they are less westernised”


• “I don’t know any of the chiefs… but still possible”


This isn’t “just hope bro” or some vague someday cope. By your OWN standards you should be banned. You are actively investing time and money into a multi-year geomaxxing project. You openly believe the market will be heaps easier there, that ascension is still possible, and you’re literally building the house to make it happen.


That is the textbook definition of a fakecel / nearcel with a backup plan.


Truecels don’t build houses overseas while saying “it would be heaps easier there.” Truecels accept it’s over everywhere, universally hated and reviled by all. You’re treating your inceldom as situational (Western foids are too hypergamous, but island girls + white privilege will work). Str8 failed normie behavior with a detailed escape hatch, not blackpilled determinism.

So the real question for your defenders
( @deleted dude @elephant man @Chud Norris72 ) is

Do we disavow you now, while the pipeline is still under construction… or do we wait until you move, get the visa, and actually slay?

Because once you ascend via geomaxxing, even you said in your own threads that you should be permanently banned. The quotes are piling up. “Just ban me XD” doesn’t refute facts so I don’t know what to say about this other than it will inevitably get you banned
If you wish me to tag mods send a list, it’s like you said, I don’t know who is mod or who isnt

 

[FarangInDaNang]

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He links a thread posted by the mod Ryo_Hazuki about the playbook of a troll, and the various methods the deploy.

I’ll respond to this but first let’s hear Sir Silentiums own words, shall we?

“I was semi-trolling, as many grays have made up ridiculous allegations towards me in the past.”

“Fooled him with the fake Master screenshot kek:”

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I don’t know how anyone can call me a troll when this guy is sending fabricated screenshots of those who in charge, make it make sense. Now let’s get to the meat and the potato’s of what makes this so ironic, the post he mentions is https://incels.is/threads/the-playb...ause-some-of-you-really-need-to-learn.874160/

Now, you can go and read the post but what are the key points it says?

Fake extreme truecel stats — Claim to be sub-3 (very ugly), extremely short (often <5’4”), with usernames like “@sub5ricemale” for credibility.

He even DMed me a selfie right after I made the initial thread (I won’t post it here because I’m not trying to break the no-selfie / doxxing rules).
Why would a “truecel” who claims sending face pics is dangerous suddenly DM one to the guy calling him out? It doesn’t prove anything — it just shows he’s willing to break his own OPSEC when it helps his reputation. Exactly the kind of inconsistent behavior Ryo warned about in the troll playbook.

2. Use those fake creds to gatekeep — Attack others as “fakecels” from a position of “superior trueceldom.”

This along with the several character attacks and ad hominems he makes against me, makes his intent clear as day, use his supposed deformity to leverage it over real arguments.

6. Leverage sympathy — The fake truecel status makes users defend them.

Now this is the kicker. In the post, Ryo talks about naive users who fall for these trolls and who end up defending them based off their merit of their supposed truecel status. With wonkycliff, He became the textbook example in mod Ryo_Hazuki’s “troll playbook” thread. Ryo then made a point on how gullible users fall for these charlatans. In the mod Ryo_Hazuki’s “troll playbook” thread, Chud Norris72 is explicitly named and screenshot-called out as the poster child for gullible defenders. After Lilwonkycliffy53 (wonkycliff) got permabanned for the obvious height-shrinking + fake grooming story arc, Chud posted “FREE HIM” on the banned user’s profile. Let’s look at who else @Chud Norris72 is defending, shall we?


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This goes back to Ryo’s point two

2. Use those fake creds to gatekeep — Attack others as “fakecels” from a position of “superior trueceldom.”
Aswell as
6. Leverage sympathy — The fake truecel status makes users defend them.

In the wonkycliff case, Chud posted “FREE HIM” after the obvious height-shrinking troll got banned. Mod Ryo directly tagged him as an example of naive autistic incels who fall for fake extreme truecel claims and defend larpers. Now look at today:

• Chud is jumping in to defend Silentium against me.

• Pushing the “he clearly has incelish features” while shielding Silentium’s geomaxx plans.

This is textbook playbook point 6: Leverage sympathy — the “fellow truecel under attack” framing makes users like Chud rush to defend, even when the quotes (plan to marry + build house in Vanuatu + picky standards + “easy to find a mate there”) scream fakecel / troll behavior. I don’t know how you can take it as anything other than a troll when he has professed already he is a troll and “gray hazer” maybe they do that in the outback but not on .is

It also ties into point 2: Use those fake creds to gatekeep. Silentium built his reputation as a long-time “truecel Christcuck,” which now lets him (and defenders like Chud) dismiss any fakecel scrutiny as “new gray troll drama” instead of addressing the screenshots. Instead of attacking my points and rebutting them he attacks my character and uses his selfies as a way to leverage his supposed deformity to gain sympathy from gullible users


The pattern is repeating live:

• Wonkycliff used fake ultra-truecel stats → Chud defended him.

• Silentium uses long-term reputation + “just hope bro” semantics while having active geomaxx plans → Chud defends him again.

This is exactly why Ryo made that “must-read” thread. The same naive little chud defenders keep falling for it. Users like Norris aren’t malicious — they’re just the easily manipulated type the playbook preys on. They see someone with “truecel cred” getting called out and immediately jump to sympathy mode instead of looking at the actual quotes and actions. Classic example of what Ryo warned of us, but yet we are still here. The biggest irony is him linking that post when the situation is only applicable to him, and not not me, classic projection.

I guess, there isn’t much to say but maybe in this hour we can look to scripture.

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Matthew 7:15-20​

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New King James Version​

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You Will Know Them by Their Fruits​

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them

 

[FarangInDaNang]

JFL @Sir Silentium imagine sending me the post by @Ryo_Hazuki when you and @Chud Norris72 fit about 3 of those criteria’s, JFL. People do NOT learn

 

[FarangInDaNang]

@Sir Silentium refuses to touch this

 

[Sir Silentium]

JFL @Sir Silentium imagine sending me the post by @Ryo_Hazuki when you and @Chud Norris72 fit about 3 of those criteria’s, JFL. People do NOT learn

Joined Saturday at 9:26 PM

 

[FarangInDaNang]

Joined Saturday at 9:26 PM

 

[Sir Silentium]

 

[fatass30000]

I'm not sure how I can verify this claim, since the rules don't state that geomaxxing talks are forbidden.

it ain’t, there was a user here who was planning on geomaxxing for a long time and was documenting everything for like a year. He never got banned. Op is literally talking out of his ass. Just because @Sir Silentium says he plans on ascending doesn’t mean that it will happen, for all we know he could fail. He hasn’t ascended until he has. Jfl at trying to get a user banned for trying to ascend tho

 

[FarangInDaNang]

it ain’t, there was a user here who was planning on geomaxxing for a long time and was documenting everything for like a year. He never got banned. Op is literally talking out of his ass. Just because @Sir Silentium says he plans on ascending doesn’t mean that it will happen, for all we know he could fail. He hasn’t ascended until he has. Jfl at trying to get a user banned for trying to ascend tho

What user?

 

[FarangInDaNang]

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me when I don’t have an argument

 

[Ricecel Sungnodius]

Just because @

@Sir Silentium says he plans on ascending doesn’t mean that it will happen, for all we know he could fail. He hasn’t ascended until he has. Jfl at trying to get a user banned for trying to ascend tho

True

 

[fatass30000]

What user?

don’t remember but his username started with IN or something. He was 2018 user i think. He was talking about geomaxxing for like a year. He talked about the fat loss and face surgery he was planning to have before geomaxxing, he was asking users how to secure funds for his trip, about how he planned on doing it etc.

 

[Sir Silentium]

don’t remember but his username started with IN or something. He was 2018 user i think. He was talking about geomaxxing for like a year. He talked about the fat loss and face surgery he was planning to have before geomaxxing, he was asking users how to secure funds for his trip, about how he planned on doing it etc.

@itsOVER was another, probably one of the more well known ones with the post made on him in MRC:

Gentlemen, give it up for @itsOVER

He is gonna be father to a 3rd child from yet another foid. Truly a success story and a life and hope fuel for incels. a tinder slut he hooked up with now knocked up, another delusional self hating gook who thinks itsover gonna be a virtuous european father...only to get her ass ditched...

incels.is

 

[VanGobbel]

That dud gave me diddliorum vibes from the start. Its always those who go over the top with accusing others of being fakecels that turn out one themselves. @Sir Silentium stop being a gaslighting faggot

 

[FarangInDaNang]

@itsOVER was another, probably one of the more well known ones with the post made on him in MRC:

Gentlemen, give it up for @itsOVER

He is gonna be father to a 3rd child from yet another foid. Truly a success story and a life and hope fuel for incels. a tinder slut he hooked up with now knocked up, another delusional self hating gook who thinks itsover gonna be a virtuous european father...only to get her ass ditched...

incels.is

Yeah except he was banned for bragging about said ascension JFL. Forum new gen’s don’t even know the lore

 

[FarangInDaNang]

That dud gave me diddliorum vibes from the start. It’s always those who go over the top with accusing others of being fakecels that turn out one themselves. @Sir Silentium stop being a gaslighting faggot

This is what I’m saying he and his butt buddies are seething that I called them out for calling out fakecels when they themselves are, classic projection and possibly over compensating to make sure they ARENT deemed as the fakecels they are. Sneaky, sneaky

 

[Sir Silentium]

That dud gave me diddliorum vibes from the start. Its always those who go over the top with accusing others of being fakecels that turn out one themselves. @Sir Silentium stop being a gaslighting faggot

This is what I’m saying he and his butt buddies are seething that I called them out for calling out fakecels when they themselves are, classic projection and possibly over compensating to make sure they ARENT deemed as the fakecels they are. Sneaky, sneaky

Kill yourselves, I mean it. Ruined my day

 

[FarangInDaNang]

Kill yourselves, I mean it. Ruined my day

Maybe don’t be a disingenuous troll and fakecel? You might wanna read this

The playbook of people who come here to troll. (A must read post, because some of you really need to learn)

1) Claim to be sub3 and an extremely low height, often below 5'4. Bonus points if you have a self-deprecating "hello fellow truecels" username like @sub5ricemale. 2) Use your frauded stats to claim a superior level of trueceldom, attack others as "fakecel". 3) Attack other users unprovoked then...

incels.is

 

[Sir Silentium]

Yeah except he was banned for bragging about said ascension JFL. Forum new gen’s don’t even know the lore

The playbook of people who come here to troll. (A must read post, because some of you really need to learn)

1) Claim to be sub3 and an extremely low height, often below 5'4. Bonus points if you have a self-deprecating "hello fellow truecels" username like @sub5ricemale. 2) Use your frauded stats to claim a superior level of trueceldom, attack others as "fakecel". 3) Attack other users unprovoked then...

incels.is

 

[FarangInDaNang]

The playbook of people who come here to troll. (A must read post, because some of you really need to learn)

1) Claim to be sub3 and an extremely low height, often below 5'4. Bonus points if you have a self-deprecating "hello fellow truecels" username like @sub5ricemale. 2) Use your frauded stats to claim a superior level of trueceldom, attack others as "fakecel". 3) Attack other users unprovoked then...

incels.is

Is that about you?

 

[FarangInDaNang]

don’t remember but his username started with IN or something. He was 2018 user i think. He was talking about geomaxxing for like a year. He talked about the fat loss and face surgery he was planning to have before geomaxxing, he was asking users how to secure funds for his trip, about how he planned on doing it etc.

Wrong. itsOVER was banned specifically for bragging about his geomaxxing/SEA success and posting proof of ascension.


He got warned multiple times and eventually permabanned for the exact same thing you’re doing: treating ascension as realistic and achievable with detailed plans + actions (building house, visa, “heaps easier there”, “still possible”, etc.).


The precedent is clear. Successful or actively planning geomaxxers get labeled fakecel and removed. You yourself made threads saying the same thing.


So yes — the rules apply to @Sir Silentium too, stop copinng

 

[FarangInDaNang]

@itsOVER was another, probably one of the more well known ones with the post made on him in MRC:

Gentlemen, give it up for @itsOVER

He is gonna be father to a 3rd child from yet another foid. Truly a success story and a life and hope fuel for incels. a tinder slut he hooked up with now knocked up, another delusional self hating gook who thinks itsover gonna be a virtuous european father...only to get her ass ditched...

incels.is

Wrong. itsOVER was banned specifically for bragging about his geomaxxing/SEA success and posting proof of ascension.


He got warned multiple times and eventually permabanned for the exact same thing you’re doing: treating ascension as realistic and achievable with detailed plans + actions (building house, visa, “heaps easier there”, “still possible”, etc.).


The precedent is clear. Successful or actively planning geomaxxers get labeled fakecel and removed. You yourself made threads saying the same thing.


So yes — the rules apply to you @Sir Silentium

 

[cathuluelitist]

Wrong. itsOVER was banned specifically for bragging about his geomaxxing/SEA success and posting proof of ascension.


He got warned multiple times and eventually permabanned for the exact same thing you’re doing: treating ascension as realistic and achievable with detailed plans + actions (building house, visa, “heaps easier there”, “still possible”, etc.).

How do you know this buddy? Also, @deleted dude is the fakecel not Sir Silentium. You got it all wrong. I'm usually right about these things despite not even being here for very long at all.

 

[PhineasSpear]

The precedent is clear. Successful or actively planning geomaxxers get labeled fakecel and removed. You yourself made threads saying the same thing.

There's a difference between someone planning to geomaxx and someone who succeeded. Someone planning to can (and will most likely) fail. Silentium was only planning to geomaxx

 

[fatass30000]

Wrong. itsOVER was banned specifically for bragging about his geomaxxing/SEA success and posting proof of ascension.

i ain’t talking about him nigga. And he got banned for ascending not for bragging Anyways, i guarantee you that the mods have seen yours and his threads and have decided not to take action, so you already have your answer on if it’s a bannable offence.

 

[deleted dude]

How do you know this buddy? Also, @deleted dude is the fakecel not Sir Silentium. You got it all wrong.

Still butthurt kek. Keep crying baby. I already told you I was wrong about that german fella. mr. muh 6.3 inches acting like he has a <4 incher

 

[PhineasSpear]

Also why the fuck is a 3 day old GrAYnigger deciding who's a fakecel and who isn't? Didn't one of the "trolling playbook" he so love to cites say this:

2) Use your frauded stats to claim a superior level of trueceldom, attack others as "fakecel".

 

[deleted dude]

Also why the fuck is a 3 day old GrAYnigger deciding who's a fakecel and who isn't? Didn't one of the "trolling playbook" he so love to cites say this:

obvious alt thats why

 

[deleted dude]

That dud gave me diddliorum vibes from the start. Its always those who go over the top with accusing others of being fakecels that turn out one themselves. @Sir Silentium stop being a gaslighting faggot

does the same go for me gobbel g?

 

[deleted dude]

still love you my jeet nigga

 

[deleted dude]

Kill yourselves, I mean it. Ruined my day

 

[FarangInDaNang]

How do you know this buddy? Also, @deleted dude is the fakecel not Sir Silentium. You got it all wrong. I'm usually right about these things despite not even being here for very long at all.

Deleted dude is very likely too this why I tagged him. But sir silentium has the means to have sex right now and later due to his status as a foreigner and by his own words he could be able to.

 

[FarangInDaNang]

i ain’t talking about him nigga. And he got banned for ascending not for bragging Anyways, i guarantee you that the mods have seen yours and his threads and have decided not to take action, so you already have your answer on if it’s a bannable offence.

It absolutely is a bannable offense, bragging comes with ascension naturally.

 

[Sir Silentium]

Deleted dude is very likely too this why I tagged him. But sir silentium has the means to have sex right now and later due to his status as a foreigner and by his own words he could be able to.

I don't even have my visa, nor do any of the girls over there want anything to do with me at this point in time

 

[FarangInDaNang]

I don't even have my visa, nor do any of the girls over there want anything to do with me at this point in time

proof of the second point? Right now your back pedaling

 

[Sir Silentium]

proof of the second point? Right now your back pedaling

Do you want me to go there right now and walk around town speaking to girls? Mate...

 

[FarangInDaNang]

Do you want me to go there right now and walk around town speaking to girls? Mate...

Actual volcel response, crazy, if you wanted to, you could. That’s all

 

[fatass30000]

It absolutely is a bannable offense, bragging comes with ascension naturally.

saying you plan on ascending isn’t bragging. If you disagree, tag the mods and let them make their decision. But like i said, they most likely have seen yours and his thread and they simply don’t care and don’t find it to be bragging.

 

[FarangInDaNang]

saying you plan on ascending isn’t bragging. If you disagree, tag the mods and let them make their decision. But like i said, they most likely have seen yours and his thread and they simply don’t care and don’t find it to be bragging.

Tell me one instance of someone here who ended up having sex due to geomaxxing and DIDNT get banned? Even if he won’t be banned right now this very second, the minute he ascends, its ban worthy, so I don’t understand your point in defending someone who has real plans of doing such, just being stubborn for no reason

 

[deleted dude]

saying you plan on ascending isn’t bragging. If you disagree, tag the mods and let them make their decision. But like i said, they most likely have seen yours and his thread and they simply don’t care and don’t find it to be bragging.

Can Ronald McDonald offer me a job at mcDonalds?

 

[Sir Silentium]

Can Ronald McDonald offer me a job at mcDonalds?

 

[FarangInDaNang]

Can Ronald McDonald offer me a job at mcDonalds?

Glad you woke up second fakecel in command

 

[FarangInDaNang]

Fakecel 1 and Fakecel 2

 

[fatass30000]

Tell me one instance of someone here who ended up having sex due to geomaxxing and DIDNT get banned? Even if he won’t be banned right now this very second, the minute he ascends, its ban worthy, so I don’t understand your point in defending someone who has real plans of doing such, just being stubborn for no reason

Because we don’t know if he will ascend or not. Mods can't ban people based off assumptions. He could very well fail. You’re going based off the assumption that he will succeed.

 

[FarangInDaNang]

Because we don’t know if he will ascend or not. Mods can't ban people based off assumptions. He could very well fail. You’re going based off the assumption that he will succeed.

Very high likelihood that he won’t fail, off his own logistics and observations

 

[H U N T E R]

it ain’t, there was a user here who was planning on geomaxxing for a long time and was documenting everything for like a year. He never got banned. Op is literally talking out of his ass. Just because @Sir Silentium says he plans on ascending doesn’t mean that it will happen, for all we know he could fail. He hasn’t ascended until he has. Jfl at trying to get a user banned for trying to ascend tho

"@Incline" ?

 

[tired as fuck]

Because we don’t know if he will ascend or not. Mods can't ban people based off assumptions. He could very well fail. You’re going based off the assumption that he will succeed.

you're trying to reason with a christian cultist man. He has amply demonstrated in this thread that he's merely here to witch hunt and be your typical gray, I suggest disengagement atp.

 

[FarangInDaNang]

you're trying to reason with a christian cultist man. He has amply demonstrated in this thread that he's merely here to witch hunt and be your typical gray, I suggest disengagement atp.

Witchunting fakecels is @Sir Silentium ‘s whole thing, perhaps you have us confused?