DarkStarDown
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iirc, he posted something concerning his official diagnosis with it some time back.Honest question, are you autistic?
iirc, he posted something concerning his official diagnosis with it some time back.Honest question, are you autistic?
you've done this very behavior since we first interacted and I pointed it out back then as well, see here:I go outside and I have eyes to observate.
Honest question, are you autistic?
I don't see where I got fucked, or where I insulted, or where I "status" mogged (I don't have status, lmao) ... Could you please point it out?Whenever you get fucked you instantly jump to petty insults, status mogging etc.
Wtf are you even talking about.You already did it btw by accusing me of being mentally unstable:
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I am getting strong female vibes from you ngl.
There is nothing you can say that is not predictable. Just give up.
this is trolling, I literally linked it.I don't see where I got fucked, or where I insulted, or where I "status" mogged (I don't have status, lmao) ... Could you please point it out?
Wtf are you even talking about.
Immediately reminded me of this study:one assumption he also makes is that because a couple seems happy, the situation is preferable.
You can be at a disadvantage and not know it, and therefore assume you are in a good situation, while effectively you are being raped.
Based on his metric, abuse is good, as long as the victims enjoys it. So if I rape a woman and she has an orgasm, I guess its fine
Similarly, based on his metric we could apply the same logic to incels. If you didn't know about the blackpill, you would probably be happier and think you will get laid or married in the future. Hence, being blackpilled is bad, since it makes you unhappy. Ignorance is bliss guys ho ho
I see plenty of non-blackpilled guys outside that seem happy enough with their life, so why give a shit about the blackpill ho ho.
The concept that you could be getting a bad deal without knowing seems lost on him.
We can also observe people in north korea being happy. They think what the propaganda tells them is true. So I guess that's fine then, I mean, they are happy after all
THIS IS TROLLING
@WorthlessSlavicShit Holy fuck
imagine entering any deal, or buying any product with almost 50% failure rate
imagine every 2nd house burned down and people still kept buying them holy fuck
Why are you quoting and talking about a thread from a year ago which has no relevance to the current discussion at all?this is trolling, I literally linked it.
You are a troll.
I will not reply anymore after this.
For anyone reading, I linked his reply to me over a year ago in the reply hes responding to.
There, he said this to me after I told him about my situation IRL:
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He's clearly asserting hes superior to me because I have no job (status mog).
On his second point - "what are you even fucking talking about" - he accused me of being autistic, which is a charge of mental instability, just as explained in the "anti-male shaming tactics" infographic I linked.
He is deliberately ignoring all of this to troll people.
I'm out.
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Immediately reminded me of this study:
Examining the Prospective Bidirectional Associations between Subjective and Objective Attractiveness and Adolescent Internalizing Symptoms and Life Satisfaction - Journal of Youth and Adolescence
Research has consistently shown that more physically attractive individuals are perceived by others to be happier and better psychologically adjusted than those perceived as less attractive. However, due to the lack of longitudinal research in adolescents, it is still unclear whether poor mental...link.springer.com
"People's objective looks, rated by others, are usually the same as how people rate themselves, and if people rate their looks low, they usually have mental problems. But if people are convinced that they are good-looking, even if they are not, their mental health improves, therefore we must obviously start doing that."
Based take GrAYThey all get cucked behind their backs.
Every single one of them
53% have cheated before? Great, that means 47% haven't, that's plenty enough.
Again, I'm not an animal, I can follow natural laws or choose not to. You wanting to do something with females even though you know their nature and know you will not get one means you're not sufficiently blackpilled to be here.Yes, there is something inherently wrong with a male that has nothing to do with females. That's a law of nature.
So you're going to torture yourself and put yourself in a humiliating, compromising position by arguing that it's "what a healthy male is genetically programmed to do"? This is like saying you should go fuck children because that's what you're genetically programmed to do (pedophilia and other sexual orientations and paraphilias are genetic) and that somehow makes it healthy. There's nothing healthy about continually being obsessed with females and thinking about ridiculous hypotheticals such as OP's (no offense, OP, I just think there's no point discussing these because you're not going to experience it anyway; there's no point).But I acknowledge that I desire it because that is what a healthy male is genetically programmed to do.
You don't. Saying you NEED a female is putting them on a pedestal. Sure, it's part of the first level in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, but you can live and not want females or be in a relationship with one.I won't delude myself into thinking that I don't need a woman or that I don't want to have anything to do with a woman
We are all broken. Cope if you think not wanting females will make you a broken man; it actually frees you from your desires and makes you want to serve them less when they don't matter to you. And how is "not having or wanting females" a merit when considering whether you're "a broken, mentally ill, defective male"? @GeckoBus mentioned this in his "Masculinity is a social construct" thread (I actually haven't responded fully to it, so I will do that after this because it's quite interesting and I have some comments about it). Is that how much females have power over you? You'll consider yourself all of these if you don't want to even ASSOCIATE with females? This is a normie talking point of pandering to females.that would make me a broken, mentally ill, defective male
- Appeal to femalesA man who tries to convince himself that he doesn't need a woman is a unhealthy, sick male, going against his own nature.
Indeed, so you should learn from them to not fail, if that's what you think (despite it being the female's fault—females are the ones that most initiate divorce—you still go out of your way to blame the men for supposedly "failing"; that would make you, who never even had a female partner in the first place, a bigger failure than all those men combined).They have more experience in failing.
There's no such thing as a "good partner." All females are psychopaths.They failed in choosing a good partner.
Except not all men are abusive, but all females are rotten to their core.They aren't better than a woman who picks an abusive man.
Making wrong decisions means you can learn from them. These men admit that they have made the wrong decisions, and put themselves under scrutiny in a society where any criticism of females is deemed taboo, to teach YOU what not to do, and more importantly, the true nature of females.They made wrong decisions and therefore we should NOT hear out what they have to say.
>unironically supports censorshipWe should silence them because they FAILED.
It's not "lecturing," it's giving life advice. It's your choice whether you want to listen to it or not.They should stfu and make better choices in the future, not lecture other men.
I'm saying there's insufficient information to make any sort of reasonable inference from it to support your argument. I'm saying your "evidence" isn't valid unless we know more about the nature of these long-term relationships.Useless argumentation. You could question any observation like that ... is the earth really round? The NASA pictures could be fake ... the scientists could be payed to say it's round.
See, we need more evidence here. You just said they're in a long-term relationship and they're happy. Correlation does not equal causation. They can be happy for other reasons. And there WAY too many factors at play than simply saying they're are happy because of being in long-term relationships. As I said, it's not enough to make any conclusions based on it.The observation indicates they're in long-term relationships and they're happy. End.
They are.You talk about "women" like they're all the same. Which they're not.
Females (barely human) are not the same as men. Don't compare them. They are not comparable. We are not the same.Just like not all men are the same.
Except my belief system is actually supported by scientific evidence (multiple books, studies, and pieces of scientific literature). You even say this yourself, it's "usually" not a good thing to do (true), but that doesn't mean that some generalizations aren't correct. You invalidating my argument by saying it's a generalization is ironically generalizing the nature of generalizations. Not all generalizations are invalid.Founding your whole belief system on generalizations is usually not a good thing to do.
I'm not getting pussy anyway, it doesn't make me any less of an Incel. I'm not better than a dude without a dick because I can never use it.You're also on the wrong forum.
You say your hate for women trumps your want to fuck them, well that makes you volunarily celibate, not involuntarily celibate. A guy who doesn't even want to be in a romantic relationship with a woman is not an incel (see rules&faq). Technically you should now be permabanned.
Women like to get beat upImagine a society where men get women by beating them in a fight. Don't worry, the non-existent police don't give a shit.
If you beat up a woman in a fight, she is yours. She becomes your property, your possession. You can do whatever you please with her.
If you lose, you are free to flee.
I think that guy is literally just trolling. Look at the link I posted to the shit he said over a year ago to me and @Tarquinius . Even back then he was just larping. It's probably an account run by multiple foids or something, that would explain how he can post that much.
Again, I'm not an animal, I can follow natural laws or choose not to. You wanting to do something with females even though you know their nature and know you will not get one means you're not sufficiently blackpilled to be here.
So you're going to torture yourself and put yourself in a humiliating, compromising position by arguing that it's "what a healthy male is genetically programmed to do"? This is like saying you should go fuck children because that's what you're genetically programmed to do (pedophilia and other sexual orientations and paraphilias are genetic) and that somehow makes it healthy. There's nothing healthy about continually being obsessed with females and thinking about ridiculous hypotheticals such as OP's (no offense, OP, I just think there's no point discussing these because you're not going to experience it anyway; there's no point).
You don't. Saying you NEED a female is putting them on a pedestal. Sure, it's part of the first level in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, but you can live and not want females or be in a relationship with one.
We are all broken. Cope if you think not wanting females will make you a broken man; it actually frees you from your desires and makes you want to serve them less when they don't matter to you. And how is "not having or wanting females" a merit when considering whether you're "a broken, mentally ill, defective male"? @GeckoBus mentioned this in his "Masculinity is a social construct" thread (I actually haven't responded fully to it, so I will do that after this because it's quite interesting and I have some comments about it). Is that how much females have power over you? You'll consider yourself all of these if you don't want to even ASSOCIATE with females? This is a normie talking point of pandering to females.
- Appeal to females
- Appeal to nature
Indeed, so you should learn from them to not fail, if that's what you think (despite it being the female's fault—females are the ones that most initiate divorce—you still go out of your way to blame the men for supposedly "failing"; that would make you, who never even had a female partner in the first place, a bigger failure than all those men combined).
@GeckoBus Look at this dude victim-blaming MGTOW for getting divorce-raped and having their children taken away from them. This dude takes the females' side over MGTOWs. The internalized misandry is unreal.
There's no such thing as a "good partner." All females are psychopaths.
Except not all men are abusive, but all females are rotten to their core.
Making wrong decisions means you can learn from them. These men admit that they have made the wrong decisions, and put themselves under scrutiny in a society where any criticism of females is deemed taboo, to teach YOU what not to do, and more importantly, the true nature of females.
>unironically supports censorship
You are no better than the normies trying to silence us for speaking out against females and for exposing female nature. I'm sorry, but I really can't sugarcoat it.
@GeckoBus
It's not "lecturing," it's giving life advice. It's your choice whether you want to listen to it or not.
I'm saying there's insufficient information to make any sort of reasonable inference from it to support your argument. I'm saying your "evidence" isn't valid unless we know more about the nature of these long-term relationships.
See, we need more evidence here. You just said they're in a long-term relationship and they're happy. Correlation does not equal causation. They can be happy for other reasons. And there WAY too many factors at play than simply saying they're are happy because of being in long-term relationships. As I said, it's not enough to make any conclusions based on it.
They are.
How do you have 18,000 posts and still be this bluepilled? Are those posts just you peddling this same thinking?
Females (barely human) are not the same as men. Don't compare them. They are not comparable. We are not the same.
Except my belief system is actually supported by scientific evidence (multiple books, studies, and pieces of scientific literature). You even say this yourself, it's "usually" not a good thing to do (true), but that doesn't mean that some generalizations aren't correct. You invalidating my argument by saying it's a generalization is ironically generalizing the nature of generalizations. Not all generalizations are invalid.
I'm not getting pussy anyway, it doesn't make me any less of an Incel. I'm not better than a dude without a dick because I can never use it.
Blackpill basics: Looks determine how people treat you.You talk about "women" like they're all the same. Which they're not.
High-IQ as fuck. GeckoBus does not disappoint.one assumption he also makes is that because a couple seems happy, the situation is preferable.
You can be at a disadvantage and not know it, and therefore assume you are in a good situation, while effectively you are being raped.
Based on his metric, abuse is good, as long as the victims enjoys it. So if I rape a woman and she has an orgasm, I guess its fine
Similarly, based on his metric we could apply the same logic to incels. If you didn't know about the blackpill, you would probably be happier and think you will get laid or married in the future. Hence, being blackpilled is bad, since it makes you unhappy. Ignorance is bliss guys ho ho
I see plenty of non-blackpilled guys outside that seem happy enough with their life, so why give a shit about the blackpill ho ho.
The concept that you could be getting a bad deal without knowing seems lost on him.
We can also observe people in north korea being happy. They think what the propaganda tells them is true. So I guess that's fine then, I mean, they are happy after all
I started this, sorry for derailing the thread.Anyways, thread is a war-zone.
Dude has been here since I was in elementary school and STILL is bluepilled. Can't make this shit up.Did you get cloned by the feds nigga or did you sell your account to an IT tranny ?
How are you so bluepilled
All women are fundamentally the same.
THIS IS TROLLING
@WorthlessSlavicShit Holy fuck
imagine entering any deal, or buying any product with almost 50% failure rate
imagine every 2nd house burned down and people still kept buying them holy fuck
That's not enough. You have to read studies.I go outside and I have eyes to observate.
you've done this very behavior since we first interacted and I pointed it out back then as well, see here:
@Tarquinius cant even read
Since the thread is not open for further replies, but I want to reply, because this guy @Tarquinius is so painfully retarded that he cannot even read basic english words, I have to make this thread here. See: I say: "Women haters cannot be incel" This idiot transforms it to: "This guy thinks...incels.is
Whenever you get fucked you instantly jump to petty insults, status mogging etc.
5 pennies your next insult is gonna be from this list of common anti-male insults:
You already did it btw by accusing me of being mentally unstable:
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I am getting strong female vibes from you ngl.
There is nothing you can say that is not predictable. Just give up.
So you think men's only value comes from having a job? Meanwhile, females live on their asses everyday.Strong contender for my ignore list, I can now see why you aren't even able to hold a minimum wage job, human waste, go neck yourself and don't reply to my threads anymore, you have no intellectual value to offer.
You use the same shaming tactics as you do now, so it IS relevant.Why are you quoting and talking about a thread from a year ago which has no relevance to the current discussion at all?
Maybe take your meds so we can have a normal conversation.
He gives me boomer vibes more. He can't get off his high horse.I think that guy is literally just trolling. Look at the link I posted to the shit he said over a year ago to me and @@Tarquinius . Even back then he was just larping. It's probably an account run by multiple foids or something, that would explain how he can post that much.
He blatantly ignores points you and me are making. There is no way it is not on purpose, he is getting a rise out of driving us insane.
Blackpill basics: Looks determine how people treat you.
How people treat you determines how your personality develops.
People determine gender by how you look (male or female).
People consistently treat women differently from men.
Women's personality develops consistently different from men based on the unifying factor of looking female.
Conclusion: All women will share common personality traits based on looking like women and getting treated as such.
The same applies to men.
To say that all women are not predictable and share similar traits while they make 80%+ of customer purchases is insane. Marketing agencies clearly know that women are predictable and operate as a collective.
You are an animal. You're a creature of earth and you abide to its laws of nature. What do you think you are? A God? A God who defies the laws of physics and biology?Again, I'm not an animal, I can follow natural laws or choose not to. You wanting to do something with females even though you know their nature and know you will not get one means you're not sufficiently blackpilled to be here.
For me it's less torturing to just accept reality (= my healthy need and craving for a woman) than to constantly try to convince myself to believe into a delusion about how I'm fine without a woman.So you're going to torture yourself and put yourself in a humiliating, compromising position by arguing that it's "what a healthy male is genetically programmed to do"? This is like saying you should go fuck children because that's what you're genetically programmed to do (pedophilia and other sexual orientations and paraphilias are genetic) and that somehow makes it healthy. There's nothing healthy about continually being obsessed with females and thinking about ridiculous hypotheticals such as OP's (no offense, OP, I just think there's no point discussing these because you're not going to experience it anyway; there's no point).
Wrong. Saying I need a female is not putting them on a pedestal, it's stating a biological fact.You don't. Saying you NEED a female is putting them on a pedestal.
You not wanting females literally makes you a broken man. You're a male that will not procreate, which means permanent death of your gene pool, yes, that is literally the definition of a broken male. A male that doesn't want to procreate is broken.Cope if you think not wanting females will make you a broken man; it actually frees you from your desires and makes you want to serve them less when they don't matter to you. And how is "not having or wanting females" a merit when considering whether you're "a broken, mentally ill, defective male"? @GeckoBus mentioned this in his "Masculinity is a social construct" thread (I actually haven't responded fully to it, so I will do that after this because it's quite interesting and I have some comments about it). Is that how much females have power over you? You'll consider yourself all of these if you don't want to even ASSOCIATE with females? This is a normie talking point of pandering to females.
As I said, you're not appealing to females or nature, you're appealing to yourself.- Appeal to females
- Appeal to nature
Learning from their mistakes means to not choose bad partners. It doesn't mean to not choose at all.Indeed, so you should learn from them to not fail, if that's what you think (despite it being the female's fault—females are the ones that most initiate divorce—you still go out of your way to blame the men for supposedly "failing"; that would make you, who never even had a female partner in the first place, a bigger failure than all those men combined).
You have to be braindead to believe in such absolutes.There's no such thing as a "good partner." All females are psychopaths.
No, we actually don't. Every human being since the dawn of time wanted to be in a relationship for reasons. The MGTOW fags are a minority. They made bad decisions and are now projecting their flaws onto everybody else. Well guess what, the rest of the world outside of the MGTOW bubble still enjoys being in relationships.See, we need more evidence here. You just said they're in a long-term relationship and they're happy. Correlation does not equal causation. They can be happy for other reasons. And there WAY too many factors at play than simply saying they're are happy because of being in long-term relationships. As I said, it's not enough to make any conclusions based on it.
They are not. Generalizations are never true. That is a fact. The blackpill has always been about facts, never about ideology.They are.
How do you have 18,000 posts and still be this bluepilled? Are those posts just you peddling this same thinking?
We are the same species. That's a fact.Females (barely human) are not the same as men. Don't compare them. They are not comparable. We are not the same.
Yes, it does. Do you know the difference between involuntarily and voluntarily? The moment you decide that you don't want a romantic relationship, you're now voluntarily celibate, which makes you not an incel. Just read the rules&faq, it's literally written there.it doesn't make me any less of an Incel. I'm not better than a dude without a dick because I can never use it.
another thing I just realized about his claims.High-IQ as fuck. GeckoBus does not disappoint.
Yeah, this is an example of the black-and-white fallacy. "They're in a long-term relationship [and assuming they're happy because of this and not just a "they're happy" and "they're in a long-term relationship," which is non-sequitur] and they're happy! So there must not be anything bad going on in their life!" This is ridiculous.
I started this, sorry for derailing the thread.
Dude has been here since I was in elementary school and STILL is bluepilled. Can't make this shit up.
That's not enough. You have to read studies.
Literally bottom-tier insults too.
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>ad hominem
So you think men's only value comes from having a job? Meanwhile, females live on their asses everyday.
Going through the thread, you have a massive inferiority complex and are probably projecting.
You use the same shaming tactics as you do now, so it IS relevant.
He gives me boomer vibes more. He can't get off his high horse.
I literally reported him for saying "not all women are evil" (a rejection of the blackpill and exactly what you said: that females are a hivemind and are also psychopathic, meaning that ALL females are evil) and the mod said "This is something to be argued over, not something that contradicts the blackpill." They really don't want to ban him because he's an 18,000–post count, 2018 user and that somehow makes him better than the rest of us despite aggressively shilling the bluepill and putting females on a pedestal.
So far, he has been:
- Victim-blaming
- Female-worshiping/pandering
- Anti-ND/ND-shaming
- Anti-NEET
@Fed Link @PLA1092 @Uggo Mongo @proudWEED ha ha He needs a vacation so he can actually go and read the blackpill, and because of the mentioned above reasons.
So the guy who admitted that he doesn't want to have a girlfriend (not an incel) is reporting me now?@Fed Link @PLA1092 @Uggo Mongo @proudWEED ha ha He needs a vacation so he can actually go and read the blackpill, and because of the mentioned above reasons.
not a moleculeYou are an animal. You're a creature of earth and you abide to its laws of nature. What do you think you are? A God? A God who defies the laws of physics and biology?
Me wanting something to do with females is healthy male behavior. None of the nonesense you're saying. And me acknowledging that fact makes me blackpilled, because the blackpill has always been about facts, not ideology.
For me it's less torturing to just accept reality (= my healthy need and craving for a woman) than to constantly try to convince myself to believe into a delusion about how I'm fine without a woman.
I'm blackpilled, I accept facts, I don't delude myself.
Your example with fucking children is completely besides the point, because fucking children is not a healthy natural behavior. Obsessing about females is, and that is a fact. Every male living being on planet earth is trying to procreate and procreation is a part of maslows pyramid of needs, having a woman is literally a basic need. You cannot argue with that fact.
Wrong. Saying I need a female is not putting them on a pedestal, it's stating a biological fact.
Without a female your basic needs aren't fulfillled and you cannot survive, you will die without offspring, which means permanent death, which is the very thing every living being on earth is battling against.
You not wanting females literally makes you a broken man. You're a male that will not procreate, which means permanent death of your gene pool, yes, that is literally the definition of a broken male. A male that doesn't want to procreate is broken.
You say "serve them", which shows that you lack understanding. Having a woman isn't serving them, it's serving YOU because it allows you to fulfill your deepest, most natural desires which is caring for your family + having offspring.
As I said, you're not appealing to females or nature, you're appealing to yourself.
Learning from their mistakes means to not choose bad partners. It doesn't mean to not choose at all.
You claim every divorce is always the females fault - what an absurd statement. Only the braindead mgtow echo chamber can grow irrational thoughts like that.
And no, the person who made a wrong decision failed. The person who didn't get to choose didn't fail. So no, I'm not a bigger failure.
But it amuses me how you're trying to say that incels are a bigger failure than divorced mgtow faggots. It becomes more and more obvious that you are an infiltrator and not an incel and that you need to be permabanned from here. Mods are just a bit slow and incompetent. Maybe they'll get you eventually.
You have to be braindead to believe in such absolutes.
Not all females are psychopaths, just like not all incels are mentally ill autists.
No, we actually don't. Every human being since the dawn of time wanted to be in a relationship for reasons. The MGTOW fags are a minority. They made bad decisions and are now projecting their flaws onto everybody else. Well guess what, the rest of the world outside of the MGTOW bubble still enjoys being in relationships.
They are not. Generalizations are never true. That is a fact. The blackpill has always been about facts, never about ideology.
I'm the OG blackpiller, I love facts. You love generalizations and ideology. You're not blackpilled, you're a moron whos terminally online, trapped in his echo chambers.
We are the same species. That's a fact.
Yes, it does. Do you know the difference between involuntarily and voluntarily? The moment you decide that you don't want a romantic relationship, you're now voluntarily celibate, which makes you not an incel. Just read the rules&faq, it's literally written there.
please explain how @lonelysince2006 is not part of natureAs I said, you're not appealing to females or nature, you're appealing to yourself.
Wrong.another thing I just realized about his claims.
He says not all women are the same, but constantly implies all men are the same.
For example when he says a man is not complete without a woman - every man?
That would imply all men are the same, in the sense that all men need women to be happy and so on.
He does this multiple times if you pay attention.
So while he advocates to not reduce women to a hivemind, he does this constantly to men.
and women dont have basic needs, got it.Wrong.
He said all women are the same.
I said men have basic needs (a woman, procreation).
Basic needs are the same for all men (maslows pyramid of needs), that's just a scientific fact.
I never said all men "are" the same, though.
Can you stop writing like a mentally ill autist, it's kinda annoying to deal with people like you.and women dont have basic needs, got it.
medsImagine a society where men get women by beating them in a fight. Don't worry, the non-existent police don't give a shit.
If you beat up a woman in a fight, she is yours. She becomes your property, your possession. You can do whatever you please with her.
If you lose, you are free to flee.
Nothing again.Can you stop writing like a mentally ill autist, it's kinda annoying to deal with people like you.
Women have basic needs, too.
This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger[28] than those of men and only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem, revealing that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic preference for their own gender.[28]
Females show homophily, males are heterophiles
...We suggest that women’s tendency to confront sexism when it targets women but not men may reinforce stereotypes that undermine gender equality.
Moore's naturalistic fallacy is closely related to the is–ought problem, which comes from David Hume's A Treatise of Human Nature (1738–40).
Hume found that there seems to be a significant difference between positive (or descriptive) statements (about what is) and prescriptive or normative statements (about what ought to be), and that it is not obvious how one can coherently transition from descriptive statements to prescriptive ones.
The Buddha taught about Four Noble Truths. The first truth is called “Suffering (dukkha),” which teaches that everyone in life is suffering in some way. The second truth is “Origin of suffering (samudāya).” This states that all suffering comes from desire (tanhā).
I found that those of my friends who were admirers of Marx, Freud, and Adler, were impressed by a number of points common to these theories, and especially by their apparent explanatory power. These theories appear to be able to explain practically everything that happened within the fields to which they referred. The study of any of them seemed to have the effect of an intellectual conversion or revelation, open your eyes to a new truth hidden from those not yet initiated. Once your eyes were thus opened you saw confirmed instances everywhere: the world was full of verifications of the theory. Whatever happened always confirmed it. Thus its truth appeared manifest; and unbelievers were clearly people who did not want to see the manifest truth; who refuse to see it, either because it was against their class interest,or because of their repressions which were still "unanalyzed" and crying aloud for treatment.
What I had in mind was that his previous observations may not have been much sounder than this new one; that each in its turn had been interpreted in the light of"previous experience," and at the same time counted as additional confirmation.What, I asked myself, did it confirm? No more than that a case could be interpreted in the light of a theory. But this meant very little, I reflected, since every conceivable case could be interpreted in the light Adler's theory, or equally of Freud's. I may illustrate this by two very different examples of human behavior: that of a man who pushes a child into the water with the intention of drowning it; and that of a man who sacrifices his life in an attempt to save the child. Each of these two cases can be explained with equal ease in Freudian and Adlerian terms.
According to Freud the first man suffered from repression (say, of some component of his Oedipus complex), while the second man had achieved sublimation. According to Adler the first man suffered from feelings of inferiority (producing perhaps the need to prove to himself that he dared to commit some crime), and so did the second man (whose need was to prove to himself that he dared to rescue the child). I could not think of any human behavior which could not be interpreted in terms of either theory. It was precisely this fact—that they always fitted, that they were always confirmed—which in the eyes of their admirers constituted the strongest argument in favor of these theories. It began to dawn on me that this apparent strength was in fact their weakness.
One can sum up all this by saying that the criterion of the scientific status of a theory
is its falsifiability, or refutability, or testability.
By virtue of being human, I have higher mental faculties than all creatures on this Earth.You are an animal.
I can defy my want to fuck. My brain tells me females are psychopathic and I shouldn't go near them even though my body says something else.What do you think you are? A God? A God who defies the laws of physics and biology?
No, that's just you. You don't get to determine what healthy male behavior is. Unhealthy behavior is being obsessed with females to the point that even when you know you can't get one, you still are pining after them and want to be with one, associate with them. This is a mental illness.Me wanting something to do with females is healthy male behavior.
You can be blackpilled and MGTOW. They're not contradictory.And me acknowledging that fact makes me blackpilled, because the blackpill has always been about facts, not ideology.
Again, you can be blackpilled and MGTOW. You can acknowledge the fact that wanting female companionship is inherently natural to men, but you can also say that for so-and-so reason(s), you won't, and this is better than pining over women for so-and-so reason(s).For me it's less torturing to just accept reality (= my healthy need and craving for a woman) than to constantly try to convince myself to believe into a delusion about how I'm fine without a woman.
Obsession is a mental illness. That is a fact.Obsessing about females is, and that is a fact
Having a female will not make you die. And you can opt out of the rat race. I won't pursue females because I never had a chance. There's no point. You saying this means that you want men to be in a constant rat race to get females despite how over it is for some of them.Every male living being on planet earth is trying to procreate and procreation is a part of maslows pyramid of needs, having a woman is literally a basic need. You cannot argue with that fact.
You don't need them to survive. You can live without them. Stop trying to justify being a female worshiper.Wrong. Saying I need a female is not putting them on a pedestal, it's stating a biological fact.
Again, I am not an animal and I don't need to conform to nature's idea of what makes a man's worth. And as an anti-natalist, I am against having children.Without a female your basic needs aren't fulfillled and you cannot survive, you will die without offspring, which means permanent death, which is the very thing every living being on earth is battling against.
- Appeal to natureYou not wanting females literally makes you a broken man. You're a male that will not procreate, which means permanent death of your gene pool, yes, that is literally the definition of a broken male. A male that doesn't want to procreate is broken.
You are serving them because you still want them and put them on a pedestal despite being hypothetically pussyless until your dying days.You say "serve them", which shows that you lack understanding. Having a woman isn't serving them, it's serving YOU because it allows you to fulfill your deepest, most natural desires which is caring for your family + having offspring.
What does this even mean?As I said, you're not appealing to females or nature, you're appealing to yourself.
All females are bad partners. You are a massive tradcoper if you think otherwise.Learning from their mistakes means to not choose bad partners. It doesn't mean to not choose at all.
Most of it is, according to stats. Females get bored ("incompatibility") and divorce men the most. There was a good thread that I can't seem to find now that had a pie chart with all of this.You claim every divorce is always the females fault - what an absurd statement. Only the braindead mgtow echo chamber can grow irrational thoughts like that.
First of all, you're blaming the man for making a wrong decision, where it could just be the female being a psychopath (need for stimulation/proneness to boredom, parasitic lifestyle, promiscuous sexual behavior, Impulsivity, lack of realistic long-term goals; even "many short-term marital relationships" is one of the traits). Second, you're a bigger failure according to your own logic because the MGTOW dude at least had a potential to reproduce or even did reproduce, yet you don't and will never have.And no, the person who made a wrong decision failed. The person who didn't get to choose didn't fail. So no, I'm not a bigger failure.
You say the same thing by shilling your nature crap and saying anyone who doesn't fuck isn't accomplished.But it amuses me how you're trying to say that incels are a bigger failure than divorced mgtow faggots.
Cope. I literally linked you the thread. Read it before responding to me.You have to be braindead to believe in such absolutes.
Not all females are psychopaths
- Appeal to natureNo, we actually don't. Every human being since the dawn of time wanted to be in a relationship for reasons.
- Appeal to majorityThe MGTOW fags are a minority.
- Victim-blamingThey made bad decisions and are now projecting their flaws onto everybody else.
What does this prove?Well guess what, the rest of the world outside of the MGTOW bubble still enjoys being in relationships.
This is generalizing generalizations. You're ironically going against your own logic. Not all generalizations are false, and this is one that isn't. Read the thread. That is a fact.They are not. Generalizations are never true.
A Chihuahua and Great Dane are in the same species, yet they're drastically different. Females are drastically different from men by being psychopaths. That's a fact.We are the same species. That's a fact.
He's a true feminist.another thing I just realized about his claims.
He says not all women are the same, but constantly implies all men are the same.
For example when he says a man is not complete without a woman - every man?
That would imply all men are the same, in the sense that all men need women to be happy and so on.
He does this multiple times if you pay attention.
So while he advocates to not reduce women to a hivemind, he does this constantly to men.
The difference is you believe in true love (bluepilled) and I don't (blackpilled). In recognition of that fact, I don't want anything to do with females. That's a fact.So the guy who admitted that he doesn't want to have a girlfriend (not an incel) is reporting me now?
Why do I have to defend myself for wanting to be in a romantic relationship with a woman on an INCEL forum?
Rules and FAQ
- Incel (Allowed):
- A man (18+) who desires a romantic relationship but is unable to enter one.
Mods, please do your job and get these autistic MGTOW grayfags out of here. They're attacking incels for wanting to have a relationship. Clean up your forum, man.
I thought you said we're the same species and therefore the same? Why are you back-tracking?Can you stop writing like a mentally ill autist, it's kinda annoying to deal with people like you.
Women have basic needs, too, but that doesn't make them all the same.
Based.On that basis, if @@lonelysince2006 chooses not to seek out a woman as a partner, that would be natural, since his decision to do that is just nature running its course.
Gigahigh-IQ. I will remember this the next time I make an argument.This means that even if you observe happy couples, that would not imply an ought, aka that men should persue women. You are making an arbitrary jump from what IS (your observation) to and OUGHT, of how we ought to be have. There is no connection. I could also look at the same couples and determine that we ought not to do that, since my presupposition is that happiness is an illusion that is frail and not lasting, and only lasting things should be persued.
I cum hard in the front yard! YES!This is generalizing generalizations. You're ironically going against your own logic. Not all generalizations are false, and this is one that isn't. Read the thread. That is a fact.
@@GeckoBus The self-contradiction is strong with this one
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Faggot foid kys alreadyI just dont wanna beat them none of the above reasons
I know I made several super long replies and I apologize for that. I will keep this one short.The difference is you believe in true love (bluepilled) and I don't (blackpilled). In recognition of that fact, I don't want anything to do with females. That's a fact.