A lot of guys would be willing to impose traditional values by force, like in the last 5000 years, but freeze up when they are confronted with the fact that it includes subjugating their own female family members
Would you be willing to enslave your mom and sister if it were truly necessary to end female hegemony and hypergamy ?
I have no siblings. Mother is a devoted JW.
In a way it is
Women are slaves in a traditional society
Made to wear niqab, stay in the home, bear children, and not be seen by non family males
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You can't end hypergamy, because it's part of female human nature. You can only curb and curtail it with laws, social norms, and stigmatization when exercising their destructive natural instincts. Modern society does an amazing job at curbing male nature and our destructive natural instincts (aggression in the form of violence and rape), but women wantonly destroy the fabric of society and society encourages it (females promote it for each other and the cuck males are apathetic, and also the laws favour them).
I agree, altho I fail to see how it benefiting society would exempt it from being enslavement. For the record, I agree that it ain't exactly enslavement, but I fail to see what society benefiting therefrom has to do with that.
I'd love to enslave my sister and my stepsisters. (My mother is dead.)
sure why not
Everyone needs a stable in his basement for breeding meat.
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Female family members are the only foids in my life I don't despise
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Reverting the scope of people's worlds (e.g., no globalization, no internet, etc.) would also go a long way in mitigating hypergamy I reckon -- after all, women cannot pine for Chad if they don't know he exists. Not that I'm necessarily advocating for the abolishment of the interweb.
I see what you mean now, altho this sounds like a matter of perspective tbh.
Depends on what you mean by "best results". From a pure productivity point of view, having women in the workforce is surely beneficial.
The way it is now is indeed far from optimal by any reasonable standard of how functional a society is. Unfortunately, it seems like women (and soycucks) will have to see the ship sink to believe it. I'm not yet convinced that all individualistic societies are doomed to eventually go the way of the dodo however. Well, every society eventually meets its maker, I'm just not so sure individualistic societies have inherently shorter lifespans than collectivistic ones.
I too am not too concerned with the impending doom encroaching on us. I doubt this society has decades left however. I sure hope I won't be grey (or -- perhaps more likely -- six feet under) by the time the winds of change are upon us.I agree, it is really a matter of perspective. I look forward to seeing what the state of society will be like in the next couple decades as the birth rate continues to plummet and female hypergamy continues to remain unchecked. I am not particularly bothered, however, as I was never in the running to begin with, no skin in the game.
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Globalization isn't the primary problem, I think. Though, that does obviously increase the probability of hypergamy being acted upon, due to the additional pool of available men. The main problem is cultural forces that, in turn, help influence and shape the laws. Ideology influences legislation. The best example of this in recent times is the women's liberation movement. The cultural landscape rapidly changed and the pendulum wildly swung in the other direction. Laws were enacted that changed the social and economic landscape to a degree nobody could have anticipated.
We're seeing the same thing creeping its way into other parts of the world, like South Korea (feminism has a strong foothold there, like it does in North America). In KSA the new king, who is very liberal, changed the laws to allow female drivers and have males and females intermix in public spaces.
You make a fair point. Then again, I think that globalization and foreign cultural influx go hand in hand -- where there's one you're bound to find the other as well. While globalization might not have played an indispensable rôle in the ruination of the Occident, I think it's the reason the rest of the world is following the West to the grave.
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This could simply be an artifact of imperial hegemonic dominance. If the world was dominated by Eastern culture, we may have been seeing the people in many countries and cultures imitating and idolizing Chinese film actors instead of Schwarzenegger and Stallone. Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Jet Li, and Donnie Yen don't seem have a similar impact all over the world.
When you've left your mark so greatly on the world others will likely try to follow and imitate you. It's like when people follow and imitate the alphas in social circles to try and fit in, but on a global scale. The alphas are now the US and the EU, and the popular high school clique is the "international community."
This indeed sounds very plausible
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