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Discussion Why escortcels are right - and answers to common objections

Exactly, but incel men, having no contact with the other genre, are the ones who engage the most in this truly surreal fantasy of "passionate sex".

In reality, normies and Chads know that women like to be treated as whores and sexual objects, and many many many (if not most) fantasize about rape or other kinds of violent sex.

It's over for naivecels, they'll keep this insane unrealistic view of sexual relationship until the end of their lives (that is if they never have the experience of paying a whore or simply looking around, which should bring them back to reality if they can be honest with themselves).
Women fantasize about being raped by masculine men, not by weak or feminine men.
 
Nope. I spend like 150$ on gourmet meals/takeaway several times a week, I just wouldn't spend it on feeding one of my worst enemies and most hypocritical, sadistic creatures on planet earth for the privilege of having them
Look, paying hoes for sex is just degenerate, impressing random females with peacocking and shitting on other, less fortunate guys (who may be more virtuous than you ) by showing dominance over them, like most men do, is utterly evil and sadistic. And most men and practically all normie men have no problem with this. In ideal world escortcels should be treated as pathetic males while 'normal manly' behavior by shitting on less fortunate men only to impress some dumb hoe should result in immediate death penalty for the perpetrator and his relatives and burning of all their property.
 
@Wizard32 from a 3000 IQ perspective figuratively speaking, I believe we are the older members and against it

What do you think about OP who chooses spiritual death and conformity? I am don't have an issue with his decision but preaching it as a solution is poor of him.

Guess that is what makes us "wizard" level, that we have rejected the rules of adults in favor of keeping our true personas. Not that they don't come with some flaws.
 
@Wizard32 from a 3000 IQ perspective figuratively speaking, I believe we are the older members and against it

What do you think about OP who chooses spiritual death and conformity? I am don't have an issue with his decision but preaching it as a solution is poor of him.

Guess that is what makes us "wizard" level, that we have rejected the rules of adults in favor of keeping our true personas. Not that they don't come with some flaws.
I have coped every way possible my fellow brother, including spirituality. My spirit is more alive than ever. But I have no problem with your choices, I’d rather stay a virgin than to humiliate myself to a foid. I don’t feel humiliated or my soul crushed when I enjoy the low nature of sexual intercourse with prostitutes, I’d feel the same having validational sex with a “normal” cumdumpster. It can be gifting to get rid of one’s own illusions of an idealistic existence that was never real to begin with.
 

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shitting on less fortunate men only to impress some dumb hoe should result in immediate death penalty for the perpetrator and his relatives and burning of all their property.
a bit extreme, I'd peacock and try to shit on you to impress a girl, sorry bro, how else am I going to set myself apart and get her to ch-ch-choose me?

@Wizard32 from a 3000 IQ perspective figuratively speaking, I believe we are the older members and against it
I'm skeptical it would work to bring me long-term happiness, but I should be open to how it might work for others who compartmentalize better, who have already given up, etc.
Prob my fear is I haven't given up, I have that blue echo in me, and I rely on that to get by, and I'm paranoid about the gross reality snuffing it out.

What do you think about OP who chooses spiritual death and conformity? I am don't have an issue with his decision but preaching it as a solution is poor of him.
If he doesn't realize it's poor for himself (and maybe it isn't) then he wouldn't know it's poor for others, so I won't assume there's malice there.

Just like I'm sure he doesn't think us malicious for questioning it as a path even if that deprives others of some fulfillment.

Guess that is what makes us "wizard" level, that we have rejected the rules of adults in favor of keeping our true personas. Not that they don't come with some flaws.
No, I am only a wizard because I survived 3 decades without putting my penis glans against a cervix and ejaculating my cum into a womb.
That is what sex is and how one ascends.
 
I can just jerk off, I don’t really need an escort tbh
 
I too, like most people, always felt like escorceling was cucked, disgusting and "loveless".

But, after decades thinking throught this idea, some time ago I realized that escortceling is the only rational choice for a 21st century man, especially if you have incel-tier looks.

Foids are a breeding species, and that's how men have treated foids for most of history, they could have basically two functions: either a professional whore or a professional wife. These were the true androcentric times.

Gynocracy started gathering heat as early as "Christianity" started forming (even though original hebrew israelites and "actual" early "Christians" treated women the same way), but in the last 300 to 400 years ago things really started going downhill fast, with the 1960s free love movement being just the (last) tip of the iceberg.

So, it's been "over" for tradLARPers some hundreds of years ago already.

When given the choice, more and more women CHOOSE to be promiscuous and to devalue forming a family, it's in their nature to be whores instead of being prude housekeeping wives caring for their multiple offspring from the same decent and loyal man. If you really understand the blackpill (that we're all just horny animals instinctively pursuing survival) AND HAVE A GRASP OF HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE, you will for certain know this is bluepill nonsense that you see in TV but not in your actual surroundings.

Proof of this is that we are a generation of sons of single mothers and cuckold fathers, and that's the direction we're heading more and more.

So, if women chose to be whores, then why would you treat them otherwise?

A common thing I see is that, the less experienced someone is in sex (so, vast majority of incels), the more they are against the idea of prostitution. The younger ones are especially vicious about it, because they just started leaving the influence of their parents bluepilling and started having contact with the actual world, but they still can't exactly see that the majority of people in adulthood are drug addicts (all included), sexual perverts, criminals, liars, gold diggers, whores, etc.

Meanwhile, actual normies who manage to have a few bad quality jestermaxing cuckold relationships with 21st century "non-professional" whores, after realizing that having pity sex with a low-tier Becky after 1 year is not that much exciting anymore, still end up seeing escorts (lots of them are dating or married) or at least think less badly about it than incels.

For Chads it's different, but they come to the realization that women are whores because they get a lot of it for free and can see it from the inside, in my HS years I remember all stacies were passed around by different Chads, and they all shared themselves with each other (there was even some homo shit, not even kidding), life for them is an orgy. So when Chad sees this, he enjoys it, but he really doesn't get too much attached to it, and most of them are really blackpilled consciously or not.

Now, normies are the ones who end up marry most of these CC riders when they are about to hit the infertiliy wall, but it's incels that really can't come to grips with that women are nothing more than horny bitches, and men are too, just substantially more developed in the neurological and ontological sense, but still animals.

The older a man is, the more common it is that he thinks prostitution is OK and partake in it, and this is not an abnormality, because this is how men most commonly had sex for the majority of the history of the civilized world (before that it was rape or rape).

It is only natural that men want to have as much sex as they can with as many women as they can (the reason why Chad has many women and, in ancient times, powerful patriarchs had many wives and sex slaves), and especially, with as many fertile (peak sexual beauty) women as they can, it is one of the most pleasurable sensations you can have and certainly one of the most instinctual.

Building a family and contributing to society is only necessary for a civilizational end - but soon enough you'll realize that civilization is a hoax, an attempt at materializing an idealized "egregore" for humanity, a supposed telepathic tie between humans that's pushed towards a higher end. But there's no higher end, there's just survival and sex, and the bullshit humans come up to justify it to their ego that they're doing "more" than just that.

Incel, wake up to reality, naiveté can only last so long, and we're the ones who usually take the most time to realize these things, because nobody tells us like it is, and we cannot experience it as Chads, Stacies, Beckies and normies do.

Now, your ego still exists, your body still exists, and it needs to be pleased. Only you can make it happen, and this is the only life this hellish God has given you, and it rots fast. I have nothing personal against roping, not on a rational level, but if you're going to stay (and while you think about doing it or not), you should take as much as you can while giving as little little as possible, this is a battle for yourself, not for an ideal of youself or the world.

Trip on some good drugs, drive a motorcycle at 300km per hour at a hill, learn how to fight and how to wield the natural power of your coom, wrestle with fellow men, and coom as much as possible by earning your way into Prime Slave Cunny.

It is not just a personal vendetta against society and women at large, but I refuse to fuck any whore that is older than 25 and less than a 7/10 in looks, and I try as much as possible go get the premium rawdog / bareback experience, even if I have to pay a little extra.

I have tried the :bluepill:, I have tried the :redpill:, I did the work but I do not fit the concept of a physically desirable man because of height and looks, I made a jester out of myself to get the crumbs of normies and Chads, only the :blackpill: set me free to see what the world is and what it has to offer, and I am only concerned about my own pleasure and power, just like everybody else is, and nobody is going to do it for me if not for myself - on the contrary, everybody will want to leech off of the less favoured, and that includes us. You are a target, even if insignificant, but you as a low value male being put down for others to see in public certainly has an use to soyciety, and it is a circus that is pleasant for the elites to see so they can feel better about their vain lives.

To clarify some things, here are quick answers to common objections:

1. Whores are nasty because of their large sexual past, I need a virgin or a foid with a low sexual body count because they're "cleaner".
Answer:
You are beyound delusional if you think your regular 15 year old foid hasn't had sex with at least 1 guy (more likely 3) by that age. By age 18, it's probably 5 to 10, and then they go to college - that's the end of the road and the start of the cock carousel.

See the article, data from 2015 on the US:




So, by age 20, only 12.3 percent of foids are virgins (JFL - consider that foids usually lie about their sexual past). You have to consider too that truly subhuman foids make up a percentage of women (yes they exist) and it could aswell be 12.3 percent.

By age 25 (so, by now, a lot less are virgins), of these 87,7 percent of foids who are sexually experienced, only 17.7 had 1 partner. Here are the rest of the numbers:




Now, what are the chances my brother? Every foid has been deflowered.

I want you to answer me honestly, what is the difference of a woman having 1 sexual partner in the past or having a 100?

If you manage to "ascend" and get your comfy GF to watch netflix and chill with or worse, build a traditional family and lifestyle, it will be with a foid that has been ravaged through all her holes and begged for her Chad to cum inside of her mouth, she was his little submissive puppy dog and you'll at best manage to be the 2nd guy after him - JFL :feelsclown::feelsclown::feelsclown::feelsclown::feelsclown::feelsclown:

Now, if the girl is is not even virgin, if society doesn't permit you to punish her if she misbehaves and if you can't treat her as property (and you can treat with fairness and even kindness a property, like a cat or a dog you own) and discipline her, and society doesn't, if she will inevitably come in contact with the globalized world at some point through (any kind of) media and be guided towards misbehavior (that she's already prone to indulge in), why would you waste your time?

You should do as the ancient, who had to act on their instincts because there was not much other recourses, but also less social inhibitions, norms and repressive forces. They made women their wives (not the bluepill disney 500 days of summer version but the hunter-gatherer, ancient civilization versions) or their professional whores, and even plebs could have their share if put the strength necessary.

As a pleb now, you can focus your strength into earning resources and, whenever pleases you to have sex, you can pick a young Stacy to fuck and treat her as an animal, the same way women have treated you, but to your own pleasure.

All women are (potential and instinctual) whores, whether they could act on it or not, is a subject of the past, we're at peak levels of gynocentric zeitgeist and it's beyond over unless there's a nuclear war that wipes 99% of the masses.

Love is bullshit and bluepill nonsense - there is only lust and innoncence, and both of these pass quite fast through this journey of life. I would rather strive for pleasure and being contempt.

Objection 2: The prices are high
Answer:
It's mostly affordable and 2 to 3 times a month is a perfect (ideal, not currently real) amount for me, but I live in a 3rd world cuntry while having a somehow decent job with disposable income and reduced costs of living. I do not spend only in this shit though. I invest part of my wageslave income and pay for other copes such as MMA-maxxing and weed-maxxing. Otherwise, this is a fair point because in some countries I see that the prices can be over the top, but I'm sure you can manage to pick a decent choice 1 to 2 times a month if you have a little bit of disposable income. If normies stopped simping, betabuxxing and jestermaxxing these bitches when they are about to hit the wall, lots and lots more bitches will have to sell themselves out to whoredom (like they did in ancient times), and prices could be lower (they are in some places).

Objection 3: It's hard or illegal in my country
Answer:
First, there are a lot of "illegal" things but in reality everybody violates the law all the time, people lie all the time and manipulate all the time, the chances are very low that you'll be arrested for doing this unless you are incredibly stupid and it's a thing that police will really look the other way because there are bigger problems than that. In my country it's "illegal" but in really it's not illegal at all, in fact it's pretty common for most men I know to have fucked whores before, men of all adult ages. Second, if you live in a country where it's illegal, you can likely pay with your good currency for prostitution in poorer countries, if you can't go live there, you can make somehow regular trips.

Objection 4: It's mostly condom sex, so it's not nearly as pleasant as rawdog / bareback sex.
Answer:
That's a fair point and it's the most common experience you'll find today. Honestly, I myself always try the best to pay a reasonable fee to try to work my way through and always stay as physically fit as possible to provide a stimulant (for me) sexual experience and maybe arouse her through penetration. I will try as much as possible (whenever I'm focused on whoremaxxing) to find my way to Prime Slave Cunny Condomless Sex, even if some of the experiences end up having to be with condom. There are ways for you to access rawdog paid sex, but you'll have to earn it (not through looks though). The best way to get the less nasty ones is to try to find freelancers and/or foids who are fresh on the business (beginners), and if you want require an STD test.

I think this is an important subject that needs to be reflected upon by the incel community, if most low tier males chose to whoremax instead of being simps and betabuxers and jestermaxers to 21st century cumdumpsters, this soyciety would crumble. If it doesn't, the most important is that you'll manage to please yourself in this wasteland that is existance.
escortcels are still cucked. rapistcels are based
 
Extremely High IQ thread deserves to be in must read.
 
Now, your ego still exists, your body still exists, and it needs to be pleased. Only you can make it happen, and this is the only life this hellish God has given you, and it rots fast. I have nothing personal against roping, not on a rational level, but if you're going to stay (and while you think about doing it or not), you should take as much as you can while giving as little little as possible, this is a battle for yourself, not for an ideal of youself or the world.
I only have a problem with this part, sounds like wicca. But other than that yes, you make really good points. I woud add that young incels are again prostituiton (like me), because there is still a little hope to "make it" without paing. And since we haven't got any sexual contacts in the past, prostitution is evil. It's giving something sacred to us (special for the religous us) that we didn't get
 

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