Discussion Do arranged marriages count as ascension?

[Peroz Shapur]

If someone gets into an arranged marriage either due to the arrangement of their parents or someone else and is married to a woman who is not sexually or romantically attracted to them but for whatever reason she tolerates them and he has sex with her, does it count as ascension and do you still consider him an Incel, or is he a Fakecel because he had sex?

I can see how this could count as either or because it's basically Escortmaxxing with extra steps, especially in cultures where you need to pay a Dowry.

 

[Peroz Shapur]

Let me know why you voted how you did as well.

Have any Arabcels or Currycels been banned before for being in arranged marriages despite previously being Incels?

 

[Let It Burn]

As valid as paying a escort to me

 

[shyloser]

Fakecel

 

[Peroz Shapur]

As valid as paying a escort to me

So if someone were to get an arranged marriage they could still be allowed on this Forum you think?

I'm more curious that Cels who've been here for a while have to say about this

 

[Peroz Shapur]

Fakecel

Even if she doesn't love him in any regard?

 

[Let It Burn]

So if someone were to get an arranged marriage they could still be allowed on this Forum you think?

I'm more curious that Cels who've been here for a while have to say about this

I think if you pay and escort and have sex you should not be in this forum same with arrange marriage

 

[Peroz Shapur]

I think if you pay and escort and have sex you should not be in this forum same with arrange marriage

Lots of escortcels are on this forum and have been for years

 

[Animecel2D]

Of course. It may not be ideal and you’ll never be desired like a chad is but you certainly aren’t incel anymore

 

[shyloser]

Even if she doesn't love him in any regard?

Women don't love normies but I wouldn't consider them incels, they are still sex havers

 

[Let It Burn]

Lots of escortcels are on this forum and have been for years

"Escortcel"

 

[SubhumanOldcel]

Fakecel

 

[Peroz Shapur]

Women don't love normies but I wouldn't consider them incels, they are still sex havers

This is true, but at the same time women are with Normies for their resources. They're not in any way forced, either by literal force or societal pressure to be with them

They can always find another man whereas the same cannot be said for those in arranged marriages

 

[Peroz Shapur]

"Escortcel"

Look up posts with Escortmaxxing in the title

 

[Peroz Shapur]

"Escortcel"

There is one Escortmaxxer whose mother gives him money to have sex with prostitutes

 

[Animecel2D]

Currycels been banned before for being in arranged marriages despite previously being Incels?

@currycel⁰ is one such example of this

 

[Peroz Shapur]

@currycel⁰ is one such example of this

I could never get into an arranged marriage because I come from a liberal family

 

[Let It Burn]

There is one Escortmaxxer whose mother gives him money to have sex with prostitutes

@Dollfucker

 

[KievanThule]

No attraction to you, dude.

 

[FrothySolutions]

That's a good question. Why doesn't prostitution count? Because she has to. She's obligated by the contract of exchanged money. She didn't choose this. But then, neither does a bride forced into marriage.

 

[nihilum]

There is one Escortmaxxer whose mother gives him money to have sex with prostitutes

That's me

 

[nihilum]

@Dollfucker

No that's me

 

[Peroz Shapur]

That's me

I didn't recognize you because of your new profile picture

 

[nihilum]

"Escortcel"

Escortcels are incels.

 

[Peroz Shapur]

That's a good question. Why doesn't prostitution count? Because she has to. She's obligated by the contract of exchanged money. She didn't choose this. But then, neither does a bride forced into marriage.

This is why I am torn on whenever or not they are to be considered Fakecels or not

Because the bride often doesn't have a choice

 

[TyroneChaddington]

When someone asks if married men can be incels we know .is went mainstream

 

[Peroz Shapur]

When someone asks if married men can be incels we know .is went mainstream

I'm just asking

I don't think I myself will ever be in an arranged marriage

 

[FrothySolutions]

When someone asks if married men can be incels we know .is went mainstream

So then why doesn't prostitution count?

 

[Peroz Shapur]

So then why doesn't prostitution count?

Maybe because an arranged marriage indicates some sort of social standing in society whereas prostitution doesn't

 

[shyloser]

This is true, but at the same time women are with Normies for their resources. They're not in any way forced, either by literal force or societal pressure to be with them

They can always find another man whereas the same cannot be said for those in arranged marriages

She may be forced to, but her family ultimately decides, my point is that to get into an arranged marriage in the first place they have to approve of you, and the fact that a group of normies decided that you are fit enough to own their daughter means that they respect you to some degree even if they just want your money, they can always find another person who is better than you and if you were an actual incel you won't be able to compete with anyone else

 

[Peroz Shapur]

She may be forced to, but her family ultimately decides, my point is that to get into an arranged marriage in the first place they have to approve of you, and the fact that a group of normies decided that you are fit enough to own their daughter means that they respect you to some degree even if they just want your money, they can always find another person who is better than you and if you were an actual incel you won't be able to compete with anyone else

This is true

 

[darkpilledsoldier]

If someone gets into an arranged marriage either due to the arrangement of their parents or someone else and is married to a woman who is not sexually or romantically attracted to them but for whatever reason she tolerates them and he has sex with her

I don't know, but this alone is basically a ticking t1meb0mb!

Also, for that to happen, it will only happen in non-western and less developed countries because of the foid's lack of options. It would not happen in a western country!

it's basically Escortmaxxing with extra steps, especially in cultures where you need to pay a Dowry.

Well, somewhat, yeah... If that ever happened in a western country, it would clearly be betabuxxing or being a paypig!

 

[Peroz Shapur]

I don't know, but this alone is basically a ticking t1meb0mb!

Also, for that to happen, it will only happen in non-western and less developed countries because of the foid's lack of options. It would not happen in a western country!



Well, somewhat, yeah... If that ever happened in a western country, it would clearly be betabuxxing or being a paypig!

I know it would never happen in a Western country

 

[FrothySolutions]

Maybe because an arranged marriage indicates some sort of social standing in society whereas prostitution doesn't

Social standing??? THAT'S why escortceling doesn't count? Because it's not "cool?"

 

[Peroz Shapur]

Social standing??? THAT'S why escortceling doesn't count? Because it's not "cool?"

I would say so

At least this is the reason which I believe most people cite

 

[FrothySolutions]

I would say so

At least this is the reason which I believe most people cite

This is the first I've heard of this as an explanation. I hope that's not people's rationale. Whether or not society respects you has nothing to do with being incel or not. I thought it was whether your partner liked you or not.

 

[saito.]

incel

 

[ItsOverMan]

@Mohamedömar @GobidMujahid

 

[DISASTER]

Why are niggers so dumb, arranged marriage is NOT forced marriage, she can still say no if she doesnt like you

 

[ItsOverMan]

If someone gets into an arranged marriage either due to the arrangement of their parents or someone else and is married to a woman who is not sexually or romantically attracted to them but for whatever reason she tolerates them and he has sex with her, does it count as ascension and do you still consider him an Incel, or is he a Fakecel because he had sex?

I can see how this could count as either or because it's basically Escortmaxxing with extra steps, especially in cultures where you need to pay a Dowry.

I'm going with fakecel, just based on definitions of the words in question. Incel means involuntary celibate, and the Websters definition of "celibate" is

a
: an unmarried person
b
: a person who abstains from sexual intercourse

Definition of CELIBATE

of, relating to, or characterized by celibacy:; not engaging in or characterized by sexual intercourse; abstaining from marriage and sex especially because of a religious vow… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

So based on that both arranged marriagemaxxers and escortmaxxers are fakecels.

 

[TyroneChaddington]

So then why doesn't prostitution count?

Let me give you an analogy. You joined a forum of homeless people. Actually homeless, not hippie searching myself type. They collectively decided that if once you've been in a hostel you're still homeless. Because there's not place like home. And then you come here and tell that your parents bought you an apartment which somehow makes you homeless

 

[Mohamedömar]

@Mohamedömar @GobidMujahid

Yes fakecels

 

[TyroneChaddington]

I'm going with fakecel, just based on definitions of the words in question. Incel means involuntary celibate, and the Websters definition of "celibate" is

Definition of CELIBATE

of, relating to, or characterized by celibacy:; not engaging in or characterized by sexual intercourse; abstaining from marriage and sex especially because of a religious vow… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

So based on that both arranged marriagemaxxers and escortmaxxers are fakecels.

based on definitions of the words in question "abstains" means you do it voluntarily.

also, read the FAQ:

This is a forum for male involuntary celibates, single men who have trouble finding a significant other.

 

[Grodd]

As valid as paying a escort to me

 

[INVERTER]

Genuinely surprised at the result since the escortcel one was the opposite result

 

[FrothySolutions]

Let me give you an analogy. You joined a forum of homeless people. Actually homeless, not hippie searching myself type. They collectively decided that if once you've been in a hostel you're still homeless. Because there's not place like home. And then you come here and tell that your parents bought you an apartment which somehow makes you homeless

What if I can afford to indefinitely stay in a hostel? Whenever I need to sleep, I can go to a hostel.

 

[yeetbender_]

As valid as paying a escort.

 

[TyroneChaddington]

What if I can afford to indefinitely stay in a hostel? Whenever I need to sleep, I can go to a hostel.

Then all problems boil down to "I need $100 for an escort". /thread

 

[FrothySolutions]

Then all problems boil down to "I need $100 for an escort". /thread

So escorts don't count if they're rare enough? How often is often enough to count? Even married men don't have sex every time they want to.

 

[gracious sub5]

Why are niggers so dumb, arranged marriage is NOT forced marriage, she can still say no if she doesnt like you