Blackpill The "women prefer low IQ, low inhib, thugs" meme needs to die.

[SlayerSlayer]

1) The lower IQ members of such societies aren't breeding either.
2) Lower IQ people are more likely to have children they can't afford because they don't think about the consequence. Completely different issue.
3) Can you honestly say you regularly see high IQ, educated, successful women having babies with low IQ, low wage workers? I never see this.

high IQ, educated, successful women dont breed period. The only people breeding are low IQ men breeding with females that are within a standard deviation of their IQ. But you never see pairings of people of substantially different intellect breeding with each other.

I've heard a lot of stories of high IQ women that went to Ivy leagues that hook up with dumbass badboys. They don't marry them, but they definitely RIDE THE COCK CAROUSEL DURING THEIR PRIME.

Also I want to make the distinction-- there are no high IQ women, these women are simply well educated. These kinds of women don't need to be a sugar baby for a man generally, and that's why they are surprisingly open holes especially when they are young sluts- opting far more heavily into the hottest white guy.

Case in point every asian bitch.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

High iq rich normie billionaires like Zuckerberg and Bezos have worse luck with foids than some low iq thug.

this is also true, it's pathetic that Larry Summers needed Epstein as a redpill coach

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

I really wish the "women like low inhib, low IQ, ogres" myth was true, I really do. I'm all three of those things, yet here I am.

It’s hilarious to see niggas call themselves low IQ then proceed to write a well written, well formatted essay on the blackpill while using varied syntax
If you were actually low IQ you wouldn’t be able to format your thoughts and write something like this.

It doesn't take a high, or even average IQ to write a couple of paragraphs. I simply put more thought and effort into my posts.

It's also a generational difference. Younger people don't have the patience to write (or even read) a post that's more than a couple of sentences. I just have a greater attention span because I didn't grow up with short form brainrot content.

Also I used forums back in the day when netiquette was a thing and taken seriously. Netiquette was basically unwritten rules for conducting yourself on the internet. One of those rules was if you didn't have anything of substance to say (or at least something insightful, clever, or funny) you just didn't post, as opposed to shit up the site with low effort posts. Low effort posts that dominate the internet today ("DNR" "bro said.." "X ahhh shii" *falling rose emoji* *reaction gif with no text attached* etc.) would have never flown on forums in the early 2000s. You'd get clowned on and they'd quickly ban your ass. I learned that the hard way as a kid/young teen and adapted. I'm just old and stuck in my ways.

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

Altough I agree, there are many reasons why this is a controversial opinion.

First of all, it's difficult to calculate the effect of intelligence alone on dating, because it's one of the least important factors. Looks, and NT matter much more. I think that most women, for example, would pick a NT thug with low IQ over a weird nerd with average IQ.

The second reason, is that I don't think that women select for IQ directly, but that they select for it indirectly. They want someone who uses his intelligence to earn money and be successful, not someone who scores high on math tests. It's not like height where women select for it directly, but instead they select for the effects that it may have in life. That said, I belive I've seen women selecting for IQ directly, but they were rarer and often crazy or very intelligent themselves.

And another problem is that IQ is an oversimplification. For my case, I don't know if my mental difficulties are mainly caused by low intelligence, autism, inexperience, anxiety, or my personality. It's a combination of them all. For example, did I fail university because I was unmotivated? Or was I too anxious to take tests? Was I bad at managing time? Was it the depression? Or was I just too stupid for it all? I'll never know exactly, I can't figure it out by taking an IQ test, that merely tells me how good I am at spotting patterns and in a limited array of other skills.

But I do think that a low IQ is another point agaisnt your odds, even with women. People here don't understand it as well as you because they aren't losers forced due to their mediocre IQ to work at a fast food at 40, they think that IQ is nothing but a result that you get from a test and don't see the impact that being stupid has on your life. Yes, had you been taller, more attractive, with better connections etc, maybe you wouldn't be there. But the point still stands that you most likely also wouldn't be there if you had a higher IQ. And that would've given you more chances with foids.

3) Can you honestly say you regularly see high IQ, educated, successful women having babies with low IQ, low wage workers? I never see this.

Exactly. These women who "prefer low IQ thugs" are almost always fat ghetto black women who are extremely stupid themselves, or teenager girls in a bad boy phase. And these low IQ thugs aren't even necessarily stupid, they are just uneducated and maybe even street smart. Instead of some jock bad boy or ghetto thug, imagine an average looking dude, who is so stupid and bad at spatial awareness that he can't properly learn to drive a car. That's what being low IQ is. Do people really think that women would be more attracted to him than to an intelligent man who learns everything quickly and easily (and that's what high IQ is, not being some ugly nerd coder)?

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

And these low IQ thugs aren't even necessarily stupid, they are just uneducated and maybe even street smart.

I'm glad you brought this up, because it reminds me of a point I was going to bring up but forgot to.

A lot of these supposed "low IQ thugs" aren't even low IQ. Take drug dealers for example. Successful drug dealers usually have girlfriends. Of course, a lot of them are betabuxxers (money + access to drugs) but that's secondary to my main point. You can't be a successful drug dealer and have a low IQ. And if you're low IQ and low inhib on top of that, that's even worse. You'll just end up getting killed by another drug dealer, a gang for selling drugs on their turf, or getting caught by police very quickly. Successful drug dealers are usually at least a little above average and practice proper risk management (otherwise they'd end up dead or in prison pretty fast).

A lot of people here cope and think "criminal = low IQ" and "I'm a law abiding nerd so surely I must have a higher IQ than these criminals".

 

[FEMCELS FANTASY]

I really wish the "women like low inhib, low IQ, ogres" myth was true, I really do. I'm all three of those things, yet here I am.


It doesn't take a high, or even average IQ to write a couple of paragraphs. I simply put more thought and effort into my posts.

It's also a generational difference. Younger people don't have the patience to write (or even read) a post that's more than a couple of sentences. I just have a greater attention span because I didn't grow up with short form brainrot content.

Also I used forums back in the day when netiquette was a thing and taken seriously. Netiquette was basically unwritten rules for conducting yourself on the internet. One of those rules was if you didn't have anything of substance to say (or at least something insightful, clever, or funny) you just didn't post, as opposed to shit up the site with low effort posts. Low effort posts that dominate the internet today ("DNR" "bro said.." "X ahhh shii" *falling rose emoji* *reaction gif with no text attached* etc.) would have never flown on forums in the early 2000s. You'd get clowned on and they'd quickly ban your ass. I learned that the hard way as a kid/young teen and adapted. I'm just old and stuck in my ways.

If only you’d become a rapper you’d probably have 3 mansions and 8 different baby mamas now.

 

[whiteboyhair]

It doesn't take a high, or even average IQ to write a couple of paragraphs. I simply put more thought and effort into my posts.

It's also a generational difference. Younger people don't have the patience to write (or even read) a post that's more than a couple of sentences. I just have a greater attention span because I didn't grow up with short form brainrot content.

Also I used forums back in the day when netiquette was a thing and taken seriously. Netiquette was basically unwritten rules for conducting yourself on the internet. One of those rules was if you didn't have anything of substance to say (or at least something insightful, clever, or funny) you just didn't post, as opposed to shit up the site with low effort posts. Low effort posts that dominate the internet today ("DNR" "bro said.." "X ahhh shii" *falling rose emoji* *reaction gif with no text attached* etc.) would have never flown on forums in the early 2000s. You'd get clowned on and they'd quickly ban your ass. I learned that the hard way as a kid/young teen and adapted. I'm just old and stuck in my ways.

You completely and utterly mog me in your prose and diction. I’m taking lots of literature classes as one of my dreams is to be a writer. On top of that, I’ve been reading lots of books on how to become a better writer.

Despite all that, I still can’t write for shit. I’m not able to formulate my thoughts correctly despite pouring HUNDREDS of hours into becoming a better writer. That’s what being low IQ is. No matter what I do, how much I practice, I will never reach the same level of individuals who are naturally talented at writing.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

I'm about to take down this myth like Mohamed Atta took down the North Tower.

mossad and bush did that

 

[Mutilator]

High iq rich normie billionaires like Zuckerberg and Bezos have worse luck with foids than some low iq thug.

 

[Mutilator]

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[Rapistcel]

There's a vocal minority on here that seem to believe, with fanatical conviction, that women, for some reason, PREFER men with low IQs, who are low inhib. I'm about to take down this myth like Mohamed Atta took down the North Tower.

Now I'll preface this by saying: Face > everything. By logical extension, obviously if you were to compare a GOOD LOOKING low iq, low inhib thug, to an UGLY high IQ high inhib guy, they'll go for the good looking guy because...he's good looking. Yeah yeah, water is wet, but just needed to put this disclaimer here before someone assumes I think otherwise.

That out of the way, all things being equal, women most certainly prefer high IQ men to low IQ ones. As in if you had two men who looked identical, but one had an IQ of 80 the other had an IQ of 140, women would go for the latter, no question.

A good way to gauge what women want is to look at the female gaze. Romance novels geared towards women are a good example of this. In fiction, you can build an ideal love interest completely from scratch, so this is a good way to gauge what women want since fiction removes effectively all limits. Now...what are the the most common occupations of the male love interest in romance novels?

1) CEO/business tycoon
2) Doctor/surgeon
3) Military special forces (eg. SEAL)
4) Detective
5) Lawyer
6) Nobles/Dukes/Princes/Kings

Above average intelligence is baked into all of these occupations. Not only that, but within these novels, the man is portrayed as hyper-competent at their occupation, and in general. They're not just a regular lawyer, they're a hot shot famous one that can win even the most difficult cases. They're not just a detective, they caught numerous most wanted criminals. They're not just a surgeon, they're the top neurosurgeon in the country. etc.

It's true that in some of them the man is also a criminal, so you could make some argument about the "bad boy" thing...but he's never an impulsive low IQ one. He's a corrupt businessman, a slick, slimy lawyer, a vigilante who hunts down criminals that slipped through the cracks, or maybe he runs a criminal enterprise. But he's never some low IQ impulsive, low level thug that mugs people at the ATM. He's not high inhib, but not low inhib either. He's competent and calculating with his risk management.

Oh, and he's always good looking and tall too (H20 = H20).

Being good looking is all that matters, I think all this argument comes from chads being treated well so they obviously develop lower inhibition, and people confuse that with being low IQ, do you agree with this last thing?

 

[Rapistcel]

Being good looking is all that matters, I think all this argument comes from chads being treated well so they obviously develop lower inhibition, and people confuse that with being low IQ, do you agree with this last thing?

Obviously there are also people who are low inhibition despite being ugly but in general being treated better is related with being good looking and these people tend to have less insecurities and overthink much less, and a lot of people when thinking about high IQ they imagine the stereotypical ugly nerd. That's why they say low IQ moggs.
Also, I believe that IQ starts being a factor when foids have enough age to be considering moving with their partner or even forming a family, if it's a foid of 16-20 years old I don't think she cares much about IQ.

 

[ihatelife2]

I completely agree with this. People are assuming false correlation when looks are the ONLY FACTOR

 

[Mutilator]

It’s very common for disenfranchised people to cope by convincing themselves that they are actually smarter and more self-aware than everyone else who life mogs them. Misunderstood geniuses, if you will. I see this all the time, not just among incels.

It’s closely to related to the just world fallacy, which many incels also need to stop believing in. So many of them really do think they’re special compared to normies jfl.

There are different types of intelligence. Some people can be more street smart, some book smart.
Incels or subhumans in general are more book smart than normies and some subhumans are more street smart than majority of normies.

 

[Mutilator]

3) Can you honestly say you regularly see high IQ, educated, successful women having babies with low IQ, low wage workers? I never see this.

This happens in EE. Maybe not very often but still happens.

 

[Gaelic-Truecel]

It depends if the high IQ man is successful or not as not all high IQ men become successful because of autism for example.
It is possible for lower IQ people to be more financially successful than higher IQ people. For example a plumber or electrician would have been lower IQ than me at school but they would earn more than someone like me because of their skilled trade.

 

[Wolfstorm]

Most women actually do prefer low IQ sociopaths.

 

[Gaelic-Truecel]

1) The lower IQ members of such societies aren't breeding either.
2) Lower IQ people are more likely to have children they can't afford because they don't think about the consequence. Completely different issue.
3) Can you honestly say you regularly see high IQ, educated, successful women having babies with low IQ, low wage workers? I never see this.

I have seen examples in my area of female doctors being married to farmers or tradesmen. Although tradesmen earn good money too. School teachers being married to trades men too.
A former friend of mine is a post man and his wife is a HR person.
A 2nd cousin of mine is a low level office worker and is engaged to a female doctor.
Also my female cousin who works in a hospital laboratory is married to a car salesman. When they got married he was a post man.

 

[Shark]

Fully agree

 

[Balding Subhuman]

Gene Expression: Intercourse and Intelligence

www.gnxp.com

high-school age adolescents with higher IQs and extremely low IQs were less likely to have had first intercourse than those with average to below average intelligence. (i.e. for males with IQs under 70, 63.3% were still virgins, for those with IQs between 70-90 only 50.2% were virgin, 58.6% were virgins with IQs between 90-110, and 70.3% with IQs over 110 were virgins)

As with the other study there was a curvilinear relationship: students with IQs above 100 and below 70 were significantly less likely to have had intercourse than those in between. Also like the other study, they found teens with IQs ranging from 75 to 90 had the lowest probability of virginity (the authors note this is also the same IQ range where propensity towards crime peaks).

Its not a matter of opinion, data disagrees with you. Anecdotes by themselves mean nothing.

Women prefer low IQ criminals. This is not up to debate. Its what the data says, and whether me or you disagree with it, is completely irrelevant.

Assortative mating implies that a man with an IQ of 140 is over two standard deviations over the average IQ of 100. A man like that has very little in common with the average woman with an IQ of 100. Women will find the 80 IQ criminal more attractive, I have zero doubts in my mind about that. The 140 IQ guy can betabuxx his way into getting women but that's a humiliation ritual by itself, and thus doesn't conclude that women find these high IQ men authentically attractive by themselves.

 

[RealSchizo]

If they had to choose between a high iq 5/10 guy and a 5/10 low iq thug they would choose the thug.

 

[RealSchizo]

There's a vocal minority on here that seem to believe, with fanatical conviction, that women, for some reason, PREFER men with low IQs, who are low inhib.

I am one of those people, but it depends. There are some countries primarily developed ones where ogres do not hold as much power as they do in Brazil, Balkans, LATAM.

 

[RealSchizo]

We are firm believers in foids primal state, not being low inhib or impulsive and abusive is a turn off for them. SubCHADs are forced to thugmaxx to keep the foid interested. Most foids would leave their normie boyfriends if they got beaten right in front of them. You seem to underestimate the fact that humans are nothing more than animals themselves. Foids are attracted to being abused, raped, spat on, spanked, humiliated.
Women would rather date an abusive normie over some high IQ one that dries her pussy with his intellectual talks.
Women are wired like that , they seek dramas, they seek destruction.

@Ryo_Hazuki

 

[Subhumantruecel67]

Well they love meeks dont they?

 

[vic624]

The whole thing about the books is just marketing. Books are marketed toward college graduated women, generally already post-wall. Obviously a book catering to these customers will orient itself around characters that would be socially hypergamous for the reader relative to her inflated mental image of herself. College educated correlates to an IQ of about 107. The normal IQ breadth among women will make it so that most will not be reading those type of books.

 

[Hevel]

Apparently, it's easier for the normie to accept that foids are into thugs than to face the reality that these thugs have attributes that make them attractive to foids, and that there is no connection between their thugness and their sexappeal.

 

[Lo3e]

There's a vocal minority on here that seem to believe, with fanatical conviction, that women, for some reason, PREFER men with low IQs, who are low inhib. I'm about to take down this myth like Mohamed Atta took down the North Tower.

Now I'll preface this by saying: Face > everything. By logical extension, obviously if you were to compare a GOOD LOOKING low iq, low inhib thug, to an UGLY high IQ high inhib guy, they'll go for the good looking guy because...he's good looking. Yeah yeah, water is wet, but just needed to put this disclaimer here before someone assumes I think otherwise.

That out of the way, all things being equal, women most certainly prefer high IQ men to low IQ ones. As in if you had two men who looked identical, but one had an IQ of 80 the other had an IQ of 140, women would go for the latter, no question.

A good way to gauge what women want is to look at the female gaze. Romance novels geared towards women are a good example of this. In fiction, you can build an ideal love interest completely from scratch, so this is a good way to gauge what women want since fiction removes effectively all limits. Now...what are the the most common occupations of the male love interest in romance novels?

1) CEO/business tycoon
2) Doctor/surgeon
3) Military special forces (eg. SEAL)
4) Detective
5) Lawyer
6) Nobles/Dukes/Princes/Kings

Above average intelligence is baked into all of these occupations. Not only that, but within these novels, the man is portrayed as hyper-competent at their occupation, and in general. They're not just a regular lawyer, they're a hot shot famous one that can win even the most difficult cases. They're not just a detective, they caught numerous most wanted criminals. They're not just a surgeon, they're the top neurosurgeon in the country. etc.

It's true that in some of them the man is also a criminal, so you could make some argument about the "bad boy" thing...but he's never an impulsive low IQ one. He's a corrupt businessman, a slick, slimy lawyer, a vigilante who hunts down criminals that slipped through the cracks, or maybe he runs a criminal enterprise. But he's never some low IQ impulsive, low level thug that mugs people at the ATM. He's not high inhib, but not low inhib either. He's competent and calculating with his risk management.

Oh, and he's always good looking and tall too (H20 = H20).

really good thread op

I think what's brutal is the fact that even IQ is genetic. Another thing that needs to die is the misconception of Chad being dumb or low IQ. That meme also has to die.

Good Looks = High iq, not always but typically Chad is smart he choose to be a jackass because he can

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

Well they love meeks dont they?

Can we finally let the whole Meeks thing die for once?

I don't even think you read this thread. Plus Meeks only got any attention because of his LOOKS. He also isn't insanely low IQ either. OP's point still holds.

 

[Grodd]

If that Low IQ thug is tall and or attractive then yes a foid will prefer him over some High inhib high IQ ugly manlet.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

a foid will prefer him over some High inhib high IQ ugly manlet.

Of course, but I don't think anyone here would dispute this. Well, maybe a few of the users who unironically believed in "oofy doofy theory" (as in the HBTDL version) would, but they're all gone now.

 

[Grodd]

Well, maybe a few of the users who unironically believed in "oofy doofy theory" (as in the HBTDL version) would, but they're all gone now.

Jfl thankfully

 

[Mixedcel59]

If that Low IQ thug is tall and or attractive then yes a foid will prefer him over some High inhib high IQ ugly manlet.

I’d say Low IQ Thug that’s tall and handome is superior to a high iq Chad IMO to Women cause they get easily bored.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

There are different archetypes of desirable men aimed at different kinds of women. Low class foids go for low class thugs. That's why ghetto sheboons always date the dumbest and wildest of niggers. Meanwhile foids of a higher social class, raised in a more high trust environment tend to prefer higher status, more refined men (granted good looks and tall height obviously). It's not deep.

The reason you tend to see higher status men (CEOs, lawyers etc) predominantly being love interests in foid fiction is because the consumers of such media tend to be foids of a somewhat higher class background than the ghetto whores who lust for thugs and drug addicts.

 

[Pikacel]

There’s a reason thugmaxxing is a thing. Foids crave badboys and criminals because it correlates with domination. It’s absolutely bluepilled to think women desire articulate and high inhib men

 

[Mixedcel59]

There are different archetypes of desirable men aimed at different kinds of women. Low class foids go for low class thugs. That's why ghetto sheboons always date the dumbest and wildest of niggers. Meanwhile foids of a higher social class, raised in a more high trust environment tend to prefer higher status, more refined men (granted good looks and tall height obviously). It's not deep.

There’s tons of educated Women who go for low life thugs though.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

There’s tons of educated Women who go for low life thugs though.

Like I said, different archetypes. The bad boy archetype has its appeal to even some higher class foids. And the stable provider archetype (think Henry Cavill) has its appeal to even some lower class foids. But they are the exceptions, not the norm. On average, you don't see women from higher status eloping with petty thugs. It happens but very infrequently.

 

[Squatting Slavcel]

I agree with the other user, you're not low IQ. GPT guessed 115-130 based on your post, 115 sounds about right. Sub100s don't write structured online essays in their spare time, they drink beer and watch football.

As for the hypothesis, "Lower cognitive ability has been tied to earlier sexual experiences and behaviors typically labeled as “risky.” So we know that low IQs are the dudes smashing at 14, and the straight A nerds start at 18+. If we'd measure the lifetime number of sexual partners, I'm pretty sure the early smashers would win. Remember that women are not logical creatures. The dumb school bully always has a gf no matter how obnoxious he is. The low inhhib niggers also have gfs because they're socially dominant and sexually forward. They say a "damn girl" compliment to 30 women and one will bite. Meanwhile the high iq guy is still planning how to say hi to his one secret crush.

So let's say by their 50s, the low iq dude has been divorced twice and has a bodycount of 15 from various bar and tinder sluts, because he's the type that goes to a bar every friday. The high IQ guy has a bodycount of 3 (1 in highschool, 1 in college, 1 from work) and is currently in a betabuxx marriage to the single mom from work. Now the only question is whether one's lifetime bodycount is a good metric for "who women prefer".

Also, basing a hypothesis on fictional 0.0001%-ers is not useful. Yeah, women will take Christian Grey over an 80 IQ janitor. But try something realistic like a 90 IQ mechanic vs a 135 IQ data analyst, or an 85 IQ gym teacher vs 130 IQ math teacher, and most women will flock to the simple guy they can relate to. Doctors and lawyers might mog them because they are statusmaxxed. But at the end of the day even a lawyer isn't slaying tinder sluts, he's betabuxxing.

 

[Karlicel]

There's a vocal minority on here that seem to believe, with fanatical conviction, that women, for some reason, PREFER men with low IQs, who are low inhib. I'm about to take down this myth like Mohamed Atta took down the North Tower.

Now I'll preface this by saying: Face > everything. By logical extension, obviously if you were to compare a GOOD LOOKING low iq, low inhib thug, to an UGLY high IQ high inhib guy, they'll go for the good looking guy because...he's good looking. Yeah yeah, water is wet, but just needed to put this disclaimer here before someone assumes I think otherwise.

That out of the way, all things being equal, women most certainly prefer high IQ men to low IQ ones. As in if you had two men who looked identical, but one had an IQ of 80 the other had an IQ of 140, women would go for the latter, no question.

A good way to gauge what women want is to look at the female gaze. Romance novels geared towards women are a good example of this. In fiction, you can build an ideal love interest completely from scratch, so this is a good way to gauge what women want since fiction removes effectively all limits. Now...what are the the most common occupations of the male love interest in romance novels?

1) CEO/business tycoon
2) Doctor/surgeon
3) Military special forces (eg. SEAL)
4) Detective
5) Lawyer
6) Nobles/Dukes/Princes/Kings

Above average intelligence is baked into all of these occupations. Not only that, but within these novels, the man is portrayed as hyper-competent at their occupation, and in general. They're not just a regular lawyer, they're a hot shot famous one that can win even the most difficult cases. They're not just a detective, they caught numerous most wanted criminals. They're not just a surgeon, they're the top neurosurgeon in the country. etc.

It's true that in some of them the man is also a criminal, so you could make some argument about the "bad boy" thing...but he's never an impulsive low IQ one. He's a corrupt businessman, a slick, slimy lawyer, a vigilante who hunts down criminals that slipped through the cracks, or maybe he runs a criminal enterprise. But he's never some low IQ impulsive, low level thug that mugs people at the ATM. He's not high inhib, but not low inhib either. He's competent and calculating with his risk management.

Oh, and he's always good looking and tall too (H20 = H20).

Water.
This is a very good thread.
Prefered height is always 185-195cm.

 

[Karlicel]

High iq rich normie billionaires like Zuckerberg and Bezos have worse luck with foids than some low iq thug.

Zuckerberg and Bezos are ltn shortguys. The are not normies. Bezos would be a .is user if he was born today and didnt have money so would zuckerberg be

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

There's a vocal minority on here that seem to believe, with fanatical conviction, that women, for some reason, PREFER men with low IQs, who are low inhib. I'm about to take down this myth like Mohamed Atta took down the North Tower.

Now I'll preface this by saying: Face > everything. By logical extension, obviously if you were to compare a GOOD LOOKING low iq, low inhib thug, to an UGLY high IQ high inhib guy, they'll go for the good looking guy because...he's good looking. Yeah yeah, water is wet, but just needed to put this disclaimer here before someone assumes I think otherwise.

That out of the way, all things being equal, women most certainly prefer high IQ men to low IQ ones. As in if you had two men who looked identical, but one had an IQ of 80 the other had an IQ of 140, women would go for the latter, no question.

A good way to gauge what women want is to look at the female gaze. Romance novels geared towards women are a good example of this. In fiction, you can build an ideal love interest completely from scratch, so this is a good way to gauge what women want since fiction removes effectively all limits. Now...what are the the most common occupations of the male love interest in romance novels?

1) CEO/business tycoon
2) Doctor/surgeon
3) Military special forces (eg. SEAL)
4) Detective
5) Lawyer
6) Nobles/Dukes/Princes/Kings

Above average intelligence is baked into all of these occupations. Not only that, but within these novels, the man is portrayed as hyper-competent at their occupation, and in general. They're not just a regular lawyer, they're a hot shot famous one that can win even the most difficult cases. They're not just a detective, they caught numerous most wanted criminals. They're not just a surgeon, they're the top neurosurgeon in the country. etc.

It's true that in some of them the man is also a criminal, so you could make some argument about the "bad boy" thing...but he's never an impulsive low IQ one. He's a corrupt businessman, a slick, slimy lawyer, a vigilante who hunts down criminals that slipped through the cracks, or maybe he runs a criminal enterprise. But he's never some low IQ impulsive, low level thug that mugs people at the ATM. He's not high inhib, but not low inhib either. He's competent and calculating with his risk management.

Oh, and he's always good looking and tall too (H20 = H20).

Intelligence, dark triad or any other mental traits have no bound to attractiveness in eyes of foids. To deny this is to deny blackpill.

 

[The Death Devil]

I agree with the other user, you're not low IQ. GPT guessed 115-130 based on your post, 115 sounds about right. Sub100s don't write structured online essays in their spare time, they drink beer and watch football.

What LLMs would 'guess' is irrelevant because there are actually standardized ways to test for what one's IQ is. They're not PERFECT, but they're pretty close to what you're going to be able to get considering that there have been various studies correlating the IQ that people score on verified tests, with their general 'success' in life—not to mention their general capacity to function and deduce various aspects of complex media.

 

[Squatting Slavcel]

What LLMs would 'guess' is irrelevant because there are actually standardized ways to test for what one's IQ is. They're not PERFECT, but they're pretty close to what you're going to be able to get considering that there have been various studies correlating the IQ that people score on verified tests, with their general 'success' in life—not to mention their general capacity to function and deduce various aspects of complex media.

How is that useful? It's not like OP will take a standardized test to post the results here. I stand by my 115 estimate. I also barely finished HS, then I got a degree. So barely finishing HS is not proof of being sub100.

 

[The Death Devil]

How is that useful? It's not like OP will take a standardized test to post the results here. I stand by my 115 estimate. I also barely finished HS, then I got a degree. So barely finishing HS is not proof of being sub100.

He doesn't have to take a test. I'm just saying that if there is a way to reliably measure IQ, then having an LLM guess at it isn't going to help. If Ryo has been struggling with stuff like this his entire life, it's clear evidence that something is wrong. Practically everything he has described about his struggles points to him having low-IQ (and trust me, I would know...) and that's far more accurate of a thing to judge from when compared to how he structures his posts—or the length thereof.

 

[Squatting Slavcel]

He doesn't have to take a test. I'm just saying that if there is a way to reliably measure IQ, then having an LLM guess at it isn't going to help. If Ryo has been struggling with stuff like this his entire life, it's clear evidence that something is wrong. Practically everything he has described about his struggles points to him having low-IQ (and trust me, I would know...) and that's far more accurate of a thing to judge from when compared to how he structures his posts—or the length thereof.

There are 160 iq people doing manual labor. Working at mcdonalds and struggling at HS is not proof of anything. I don't even have a job for almost a decade, does that mean I'm dumber than fast food employees? You wildly overestimate humans if you think sub100s can express themselves like OP. Let's say OP is 90, that's 5 more than the average USA nigger. Do you think an average nigger could write a structured essay without flawed grammar?

 

[parbate2025]

There's a vocal minority on here that seem to believe, with fanatical conviction, that women, for some reason, PREFER men with low IQs, who are low inhib. I'm about to take down this myth like Mohamed Atta took down the North Tower.

Now I'll preface this by saying: Face > everything. By logical extension, obviously if you were to compare a GOOD LOOKING low iq, low inhib thug, to an UGLY high IQ high inhib guy, they'll go for the good looking guy because...he's good looking. Yeah yeah, water is wet, but just needed to put this disclaimer here before someone assumes I think otherwise.

That out of the way, all things being equal, women most certainly prefer high IQ men to low IQ ones. As in if you had two men who looked identical, but one had an IQ of 80 the other had an IQ of 140, women would go for the latter, no question.

A good way to gauge what women want is to look at the female gaze. Romance novels geared towards women are a good example of this. In fiction, you can build an ideal love interest completely from scratch, so this is a good way to gauge what women want since fiction removes effectively all limits. Now...what are the the most common occupations of the male love interest in romance novels?

1) CEO/business tycoon
2) Doctor/surgeon
3) Military special forces (eg. SEAL)
4) Detective
5) Lawyer
6) Nobles/Dukes/Princes/Kings

Above average intelligence is baked into all of these occupations. Not only that, but within these novels, the man is portrayed as hyper-competent at their occupation, and in general. They're not just a regular lawyer, they're a hot shot famous one that can win even the most difficult cases. They're not just a detective, they caught numerous most wanted criminals. They're not just a surgeon, they're the top neurosurgeon in the country. etc.

It's true that in some of them the man is also a criminal, so you could make some argument about the "bad boy" thing...but he's never an impulsive low IQ one. He's a corrupt businessman, a slick, slimy lawyer, a vigilante who hunts down criminals that slipped through the cracks, or maybe he runs a criminal enterprise. But he's never some low IQ impulsive, low level thug that mugs people at the ATM. He's not high inhib, but not low inhib either. He's competent and calculating with his risk management.

Oh, and he's always good looking and tall too (H20 = H20).

Its a cope

 

[NIGGA BANBAN]

As for the hypothesis, "Lower cognitive ability has been tied to earlier sexual experiences and behaviors typically labeled as “risky.” So we know that low IQs are the dudes smashing at 14, and the straight A nerds start at 18+. If we'd measure the lifetime number of sexual partners, I'm pretty sure the early smashers would win. Remember that women are not logical creatures. The dumb school bully always has a gf no matter how obnoxious he is. The low inhhib niggers also have gfs because they're socially dominant and sexually forward. They say a "damn girl" compliment to 30 women and one will bite. Meanwhile the high iq guy is still planning how to say hi to his one secret crush.

So let's say by their 50s, the low iq dude has been divorced twice and has a bodycount of 15 from various bar and tinder sluts, because he's the type that goes to a bar every friday.

What people don't get from the "women chose low IQ/low inhibition thugs" is that it only works if you are a curtain height + appearance.

Plus, they only want the dominant, violent, low inhib, low IQ thugs, not the low IQ incels. Having low IQ does not on it's own attribute to higher sexual success, otherwise I would've been swimming in pussy. Also, you can only work off of the low IQ if you have other good traits to negate it which is height, face, frame and NT, which plenty of us don't have.

Plenty of people who were bullied cope with the fact that their tormentors were dumb roided out chimps, because otherwise, their fantasy land of being a "misunderstood genius who excels in something that dumb normies simply can't appreciate" falls appart.

 

[The Death Devil]

I don't even have a job for almost a decade, does that mean I'm dumber than fast food employees?

Not having a job doesn't equate to being only able to get a certain kind of job. Minimum-wage jobs were literally designed for people like us.

You wildly overestimate humans if you think sub100s can express themselves like OP. Let's say OP is 90, that's 5 more than the average USA nigger. Do you think an average nigger could write a structured essay without flawed grammar?

That's because your average nigger hasn't tried, as he has never had a need to. Most people who you see on the internet aren't capable of what you've described, but that's not because they're low-IQ—it's just because they've never had to and thus don't have the practice needed to know what works and what doesn't. Even THEN I might be wrong and most people just don't care enough to bother typing out full paragraphs in impeccable grammar, but are more than capable of doing so.

As low-IQ one may be, if he spends decades doing one particular thing, he's bound to get better at it—at least, on a surface level. You wildly underestimate Man's capacity to adapt and imitate.

 

[Squatting Slavcel]

Not having a job doesn't equate to being only able to get a certain kind of job. Minimum-wage jobs were literally designed for people like us.

That's because your average nigger hasn't tried, as he has never had a need to. Most people who you see on the internet aren't capable of what you've described, but that's not because they're low-IQ—it's just because they've never had to and thus don't have the practice needed to know what works and what doesn't. Even THEN I might be wrong and most people just don't care enough to bother typing out full paragraphs in impeccable grammar, but are more than capable of doing so.

As low-IQ one may be, if he spends decades doing one particular thing, he's bound to get better at it—at least, on a surface level. You wildly underestimate Man's capacity to adapt and imitate.

If I tried finding a job, I'd also only get a dead end min wage one. That's an incel trait, not low iq trait.
Yeah, niggers don't try writing essays, because low iq makes them avoid high iq behaviors. You could make an 85 iq nigger write 50 essays and you'd still see the low IQ in the 50th one. Practice doesn't always make perfect. The brain has limits. You can see that in competitive games, retards are in "elo hell" Silver V after 5000 games, still blaming allies. 120 IQ will be in diamond 1 after 1000 games.

 

[The Death Devil]

If I tried finding a job, I'd also only get a dead end min wage one. That's an incel trait, not low iq trait.

You're not entirely wrong, but that's moreso from the lack of connections. But there are still plenty of incels here who do have careers (admittedly, dead-end ones that will never lead anywhere), but careers nonetheless. No matter what your degree may be, you can always find a job that will pay better than minimum wage if you autistically dedicate yourself towards finding it.

Yeah, niggers don't try writing essays, because low iq makes them avoid high iq behaviors. You could make an 85 iq nigger write 50 essays and you'd still see the low IQ in the 50th one.

I don't understand how writing in of itself is something that somehow requires a high IQ? If you're literate, you can write. And, if you have even a basic understanding of grammar, putting a lot of time into said writing makes it so that it's both lengthy and well punctuated. I tend to proof-read the stuff I write quite a few times before I actually send it—it's just basic etiquette, considering that I'm going out of my way to construct a response for someone else that they will inevitably read.

Practice doesn't always make perfect. The brain has limits. You can see that in competitive games, retards are in "elo hell" Silver V after 5000 games, still blaming allies. 120 IQ will be in diamond 1 after 1000 games.

I don't disagree, but that's why I compared it to imitation rather than an actual acquisition of said skills—'mimicry,' if you would have it. When you're low-IQ, you naturally have to sacrifice something in order to match the level of someone who is higher-IQ.

In the case of writing, a higher-IQ person can just naturally produce lengthy treatises in no time, if that's what they wanted to do. For a lower-IQ person, they have to dedicate ample time towards writing and glance over their stuff multiple times in order to make sure that it is coherent. The higher-IQ person just naturally does that on the spot and doesn't have to really think about it.

Not only does the higher-IQ person end up making their piece far quicker than the lower-IQ person, the lower-IQ person's writing will still end up having glaring issues that aren't immediately apparent to the lower-IQ person themself, but obvious to anyone who has any proficiency in writing. The logic itself can end up being faulty if the topic being spoken of isn't already something incredibly simple to understand OR something that the lower-IQ person has already experienced extensively.

That is all to say, it only looks impressive on a surface-level. I also wrote more about my experiences with being low-IQ here, if you're interested—

Why your IQ doesn't matter at all

If I were substantially smarter or substantially dumber it really would have no impact on my life outcome in any significant way. First of all, I want to remind you all of who has the highest IQ on earth, Terrance Tao: This is what his high IQ got him. Also his son is now a tranny lunatic...

incels.is

 

[EcstasyCel]

No I don't believe this. Most women actually do prefer low IQ sociopaths. Every time I see a meth lab bust or drug dealer gang arrested it's always some guy and his girlfriend. Obviously good looking is better though. Sometimes the woman acts like the mother to the low IQ sociopath as well and then they act like heroes. I saw a documentary about some alcoholic with schizophrenia who had a girlfriend taking care of him all day because he was helpless

I assume that if you're running a meth lab your IQ is in the higher range.