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Theory Your social skills are your IQ. Personality is IQ + LOOKS

I dunno, I don't believe that processing speed score. I think when I took the online test I wasn't really ready for it when it started, but who knows.
I mean you got it good on every other one. Processing speed is very different from the other ones.
 
I mean you got it good on every other one. Processing speed is very different from the other ones.
Also I'm old now in my 40s, I took that test last year for fun. I'm sure my processing speed was much better when I was in my teens, but I was still ostracized and couldn't think of anything to say. It's face + genetics + high sensitivity + bullying in my experience.
 
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Damn, I've always been absolutely dogshit at interacting with people. I'm ND, and therefore am unable to read social cues. All the jokes I've tried to make always have fallen flat and sounded cringe, I'm unable to keep a conversation going unless the other person does all of the talking and my only responses would be "okay" and "alright". Hell, I can't even start a conversation with people in most cases, I legitimately cannot find anything to discuss with them unless its only the most surface level small talk like talking about the weather or some shit. :feelscry:
 
Also I'm old now in my 40s, I took that test last year for fun. I'm sure my processing speed was much better when I was in my teens, but I was still ostracized and couldn't think of anything to say. It's face + genetics + bullying in my experience.
I don't know enough about your life to say for sure, but intelligence doesn't drop by much. So most likely even in your teens it was bad
 
Exactly. Verbal IQ is partly trainable unlike the others.
VIQ is seperate from social intelligence.
actually kinda agree tbh. If you can't train your verbal skills because nobody wants to engage in conversation with you, you will basically have low verbal IQ by default. I've noticed as I got older that im socially inept and its not entirely my fault because i used to try to talk with people but i would pick up that they didnt want to talk to me so i eventually left them alone or they cut me off. High IQ thread.
Literally just not how it works buddy. You can be a mute enuech with a high VIQ. Spatial IQ has to do with how you can manipulate information internally whilst VIQ is how you can manipulate information externally. Jordan Peterson has a high VIQ and a low spatial IQ. Another example of someone with a high verbal IQ and low spatial IQ is Thomas Sowell.
 
I don't know enough about your life to say for sure, but intelligence doesn't drop by much. So most likely even in your teens it was bad
It's a shitty theory. Even literal retards have had much more active social lives than I've had and have managed to reproduce.
 
VIQ is seperate from social intelligence.

Literally just not how it works buddy. You can be a mute enuech with a high VIQ. Spatial IQ has to do with how you can manipulate information internally whilst VIQ is how you can manipulate information externally. Jordan Peterson has a high VIQ and a low spatial IQ. Another example of someone with a high verbal IQ and low spatial IQ is Thomas Sowell.
You sound like you know a lot more about this than me. Am I into something atleast?

Isn't social intelligence more like your Verbal IQ + Your processing speed?
 
My brain liquefied trying to read that.
I have 130 IQ (apparently) with high values for those 3 criteria you stated but I am still KHHDV incel with no friends nor social skills
Exactly. This is a shitty theory.
 
It's a shitty theory. Even literal retards have had much more active social lives than I've had and have managed to reproduce.
Well these retards problably have had higher processing speed than you did though. I don't know for sure? If you think it's shitty that's okay. In fact I'd like to know why because I may just be saying bullshit. But how do you know for sure?
Exactly. This is a shitty theory.
 
Damn, I've always been absolutely dogshit at interacting with people. I'm ND, and therefore am unable to read social cues. All the jokes I've tried to make always have fallen flat and sounded cringe, I'm unable to keep a conversation going unless the other person does all of the talking and my only responses would be "okay" and "alright". Hell, I can't even start a conversation with people in most cases, I legitimately cannot find anything to discuss with them unless its only the most surface level small talk like talking about the weather or some shit. :feelscry:
Well that's just brutal. The IQpill is brutal really. When your looks are bad, the only thing that's left is your IQ. If you don't have neither IQ nor looks. Why even live?
 
You sound like you know a lot more about this than me. Am I into something atleast
Well, yeah, obviously.
Isn't social intelligence more like your Verbal IQ + Your processing speed?
Your verbal intelligence is determined by how you can extrapolate and cozen/synthesize information. Someone with high verbal intelligence can read something and be able to plasticate it and maximize the fruits from the information, whilst someone with a high nonverbal IQ e.g, high spatial IQ can just manipulate information in their head and can extrapolate from it internally. Social intelligence doesn't exist since it can't be measured and it seems that people with higher fIQ are also more socially intelligent than people with lower fIQ so even if it could be measured somehow there would be no point because of how strongly it correlates with general IQ anyway.
 
a good IQ can carry you really far if you don't have looks to be fair. If we say looks is height + face, then all you have left is your brain. If your brain doesn't work then it is a wrap.
Then I'm losing all my intellect in others eyes when I'm seen - halo anti effect - sub3 cannot be that smart
 
Bro high IQ correlates with social isolation more than average IQ ???
Studies have found that high IQ correlates more with social anxiety (i.e. social isolation) than average IQ. I think high sensitivity in a lot of high IQ people is a big reason.
 
Verbal Intelligence: Makes you geek and look intelligent. More correlated with verbal intelligence.
Verbal intelligence more correlated with verbal intelligence
 
Verbal intelligence more correlated with verbal intelligence
It's a writing mistake. That doesn't invalidate what I said

Studies have found that high IQ correlates more with social anxiety (i.e. social isolation) than average IQ. I think high sensitivity in a lot of high IQ people is a big reason.
It does. But the same things behind social anxiety are also what allow you to be socially skilled if you have an even IQ. If you witty. Social anxiety is being too tuned in. And overthinking. If you're not witty you can't really say.

And you're going to get anxious if you get too confused. That's just natural.
 
VIQ is seperate from social intelligence.

Literally just not how it works buddy. You can be a mute enuech with a high VIQ. Spatial IQ has to do with how you can manipulate information internally whilst VIQ is how you can manipulate information externally. Jordan Peterson has a high VIQ and a low spatial IQ. Another example of someone with a high verbal IQ and low spatial IQ is Thomas Sowell.
Yes I have high VIQ but I'm basically mute. I'm physically capable of speaking but I rarely talk and try to avoid talking (very high inhib). I was also known as "mute" in school and at work and was made fun of/bullied for it.
 
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In my experience and from observation of others, I think Verbal IQ is about having a good memory and reading skills. Very little to do with social skills which gets more into face/height, anxiety disorders, high sensitivity, autism, childhood bullying, etc. (And high IQ people are more likely to be highly sensitive.)
 
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In my experience and from observation of others, I think Verbal IQ is about having a good memory and reading skills. Very little to do with social skills.
It does yes. Social skills seems more like a combination of both Verbal IQ and High Processing Speed. So they use their vocabulary repertoire. Like a man using words to charm. Obviously can just be a dumb nigger with a bad vocabulary. If they're witty that's good enough. They just have to look good and be witty really.
 
Your looks = your personality.

There's no high IQ for your face.
 
Your looks = your personality.

There's no high IQ for your face.
No. It can get worse than just having bad looks. Doesn't have to stop there. Being ugly and socially non-functional and retarded is the worst.
 
IQ isn't a single metric it is a combination of metrics

But I would say IQ is very important
IQ in the modern sense is trivial as you can see many retards in universities with at least 115 IQ.
 
When social skills are not looks of course. At first they are looks, but after looks it is IQ and solely IQ. But not entirely. Only SOME parts of your IQ. Quite to the contrary? Higher fluid intelligence I would say is negatively correlated with good social skills because most people do not have that high.



For a start: A witty person is socially skilled. Because they are funny or charismatic or something. They can do banter, do small talk, keep conversation fluid and natural. They don't fail to match the other person. To be socially skilled you have to be witty. Being witty is basically a combination of a good vocabulary + processing speed. Both are IQ

There is spatial IQ. Spatial IQ (Block Design + Visual Puzzles) determines how you carry yourself. It makes you have a good posture. It makes you dress well. It also makes you useful. If you have low spatial IQ, you'll always be stumbling into shit and you will have a weird gait and you will stand awkward or getting hit by shit. Low it makes you BAD at sports and BAD at activites that require fine-motor coordination. It is also correlated with whether you can drive or not. If you can't drive that's already a major sign.

Finally, scoring low in verbal IQ makes you basically retarded. A high verbal IQ is a mogger. It heavily contributes to charisma and can turn you from a mere jock into a jock-nerd or simply a chad if combined with being witty

Fluid Intelligence: It makes you nerd af. Not the cool nerd type.

Verbal Intelligence: Makes you geek and look intelligent. More correlated with verbal intelligence.

Spatial Intelligence: Posture, gait, body language.

Processing Speed: Your ability to be quick-witted.

TLDR; high SPATIAL IQ + high VERBAL IQ + high PROCESSING SPEED and you get the social skills of a chad.
Face is personality
 
If you are chad and dumb you aren't perceived as dumb.
If you are ugly and smart you are seen as an annoying nerd.
 
Yes

Being ugly and smart is better than being ugly and stupid. Not going to get you a girlfriend but it is better
I don't deny that, it's better in life but it doesn't help you in dating market unless you are at least average looking.
 
I don't deny that, it's better in life but it doesn't help you in dating market unless you are at least average looking.
Yes. So you agree with me. If you're ugly being dumb just makes your life even worse. Just that it makes your life worse instead of just bad. And for average looking guys it matters a bunch
 
Yes. So you agree with me. If you're ugly being dumb just makes your life even worse. Just that it makes your life worse instead of just bad. And for average looking guys it matters a bunch
Exactly
 
IQ is a huge cope. My verbal IQ is 143 according to CAIT online test which is pretty accurate as far as online tests go. Also I got a 760 out of 800 on Verbal SAT, and I was a Mensa member (top 1% IQ) in junior high. Always been socially retarded and ostracized. Haven't had a friend in 27 years. Massive social anxiety, very high inhib and very quiet, and I can't think of anything to say in social situations.View attachment 1753777View attachment 1753770View attachment 1753771View attachment 1753772
 
Social skills can be quite separate from IQ
 
It does yes. Social skills seems more like a combination of both Verbal IQ and High Processing Speed. So they use their vocabulary repertoire. Like a man using words to charm. Obviously can just be a dumb nigger with a bad vocabulary. If they're witty that's good enough. They just have to look good and be witty really.
These low IQ, very social people aren't "witty," unless it's whatever is considered "witty" to another low IQ person.

One of the big problems with being high IQ is feeling like you can't relate socially to 90% of the population. You're not on the same mental wavelength and don't have the same interests.

As far as processing speed goes, the problem isn't that I can't keep up in an ongoing conversation or be "witty." It's not processing speed because I could have hours to think of something to say but I can't think of anything. I don't have anything to say to people in the first place (and even if I did I'm too high inhib to say it).
 
Normie IPhone users are the biggest retards ever but they not ugly so it's ok.
 
Looks are the only thing that matters, if you look alright and arent a piece of shit to everyone you talk to you will get handheld through life and achieve at least some kind of social/romantic life, its the default, it doesnt require good IQ. All it requires is low awareness and a loose mouth
 
These low IQ, very social people aren't "witty," unless it's whatever is considered "witty" to another low IQ person.

One of the big problems with being high IQ is feeling like you can't relate socially to 90% of the population. You're not on the same mental wavelength and don't have the same interests.

As far as processing speed goes, the problem isn't that I can't keep up in an ongoing conversation or be "witty." It's not processing speed because I could have hours to think of something to say but I can't think of anything. I don't have anything to say to people in the first place (and even if I did I'm too high inhib to say it).
Oh but I did mention a lot of times that fluid intelligence (or just reasoning in general, abstract reasoning) is correlated with interests that don't align with the general population. In fact, these predict how badly you'll fit in with normies but not your social skills, as the higher your intelligence there the weirder your interests are. As far as processing speed comes. Yes, these very social people are witty. They can do stuff we could not ever do and that's clearly IQ. We take longer to formulate thoughts and keep up with convos than the average normie. That is just the way it is.

Looks are the only thing that matters, if you look alright and arent a piece of shit to everyone you talk to you will get handheld through life and achieve at least some kind of social/romantic life, its the default, it doesnt require good IQ. All it requires is low awareness and a loose mouth
Being polite and good looking is the bare minimum. Also no. It is better accept that social intelligence is correlated with intelligence. It is delusional to say otherwise. Just not the autistic kind
 
Being polite and good looking is the bare minimum. Also no. It is better accept that social intelligence is correlated with intelligence. It is delusional to say otherwise. Just not the autistic kind

I would say it is related at the extremes, if you're around 2 standard deviations above or below the average then it will obviously affect you considering in the lower end it will just make it harder to process shit while in the higher end it'll make it difficult to relate to anyone and connect with them in any meaningful manner. However extremes of all kinds affect every aspect of your life and I would say IQ plays little to no role in social ability for the vast majority of the population. I doubt all the people here are either retarded or highly gifted xd
 
I would say it is related at the extremes, if you're around 2 standard deviations above or below the average then it will obviously affect you considering in the lower end it will just make it harder to process shit while in the higher end it'll make it difficult to relate to anyone and connect with them in any meaningful manner. However extremes of all kinds affect every aspect of your life and I would say IQ plays little to no role in social ability for the vast majority of the population. I doubt all the people here are either retarded or highly gifted xd
Reasonable. I am retarded though. There seems like maybe many like me here. Or geniuses.
 

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