You also have to bear in mind that people might be bullshitting on other forums and lying about having sexual experiences for example which shouldn't really count against them here.
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Possible, but then they're just snakes who shed one skin to have another.
I mean we just had a vote on this yesterday where 45 out of 47 voters said yesOr should we be against that kind of gross invasion of privacy here and only judge users by what they do here?
Note: Your answers will be tallied up and the majority sentiment will be reflected in our updated 2022 rules set.
Thank you.
imo we already have a perfectly fair compromise on this issue. bragging off-site is allowed as long as nobody here finds out about it or cares enough to report you for it. if you aren’t indistinguishable from the average user in terms of sexual experiences, then you have no place here.
I literally can’t think of a single reason why people who aren’t incel, are KNOWN to not be incel and brag about it openly should be allowed here, just because it’s “off site”. it still happened in this community whether it was here or on discord. if this was to be allowed then this wouldn’t be an incel forum anymore, just a “blackpill” forum (and we all know how god awful those are)
its not a violation of privacy when it’s something that you post publicly on the internet and you know that people will see it. there is literally no violation of privacy happening here.
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BAN ANYONE WHO HAS HAD PAST SEXUAL EXPERIENCES UNLESS IF THEY’RE A FREAK CASE WHO SUFFERED 3RD DEGREE BURNS.
Also, users should refrain from posting their faces to respect those who might be uglier. They can post them privately but not where they can be seen for everyone.
It honestly seems ridiculously disingenuous to me to make this thread and phrase it in a way where people won’t understand the full implications of it (i.e just saying “off site activities that are against the rules here” and “a gross violation of privacy” instead of “bragging about getting blowjobs”. )
the entire community unanimously agreed that bragging about sexual experiences should be banned whether it’s here or on an incel discord. so what’s the deal? why does it still need to be discussed?
since there’s not even an actual poll on this thread I imagine you’re just going to “tally up” the comments on this thread and conveniently find that they had the exact result you wanted
the entire community unanimously agreed that bragging about sexual experiences should be banned whether it’s here or on an incel discord. so what’s the deal? why does it still need to be discussed?
since there’s not even an actual poll on this thread I imagine you’re just going to “tally up” the comments on this thread and conveniently find that they had the exact result you wanted
It becomes weird if you argue one way on some forum and then act in a completely different manner when coming here. It is larping in the sense that you aren’t actually believing in what you type. I’d rather interact with people who are being genuine, and not those who are playing devil’s advocate or putting on a show.
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If the opinions contradict themselves, its true, but if he didn't mention anything that contradict what he is exposing outside the forum, then no.
It's like a guy shitting on simps/saying he would never do that, and then having a simp behaviour outside here. But if he never did the former, I see no larping at all
And I don’t want such cowards in here. Lying about it IRL to your coworkers is one thing, but doing it in an anonymous community online to become accepted by a bunch of normies you don’t know? That’s just so fucking cucked.
If it’s clear that he has changed his mind concerning whatever he wrote before I’m fine with it, but if he simultaneously behaves like a bluepilled cuck on Reddit while making based posts on here it becomes disingenuous.
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Words on a screen which aren't even pointed in my direction don't really bother me and I'd suggest you adopt the same mentality especially if it's in a forum which doesn't even concern or involve you otherwise you risk adopting the same mindset of a foid or an SJW. If someone is on a subreddit arguing about a computer game and someone calls them a virgin who can't fight and they pull up a bunch of bs pictures of girls they've fucked or lie about fights they've been in it has no bearing here...because it's not here. As long as they tell the truth here that's all that matters to this forum.
Only exception would be if the bragging about foids turns out to be tangibly and demonstrably true.
Why would you ever feel the need to do this in an anonymous online community? It just reeks so hard of the LARPer mentality I don’t want to associate with.
Who knows. I've certainly bullshitted in real life countless times over my years to avoid being shunned. Not something I'd personally do online although it depends on the context for some people I suppose, for example if they feel they may be branded and cast out of a specific hobby community (game/movie/series) that they love and being labeled as an incel which is certainly within reason these days then they may bullshit to stay there because it's the best place to discuss the hobby.
And if the same person is actually also suicidal about their inceldom and they also come here to vent/share experiences or look for advice and support then I wouldn't think it'd be too much of a problem.
Although there are certainly levels to it. For example if someone is posting under the same username here as an account on reddit where they are bragging about their slays and their account is linked to their facebook which has photos of them with recent slays etc then that's another level altogether
If the person is certainly a chad and just joins here as a forum spy to make fun the person should be banned but if for instance he lies about getting laid to the close friend circle on private social media that's a different thing. I understand people don't like to share their inceldom for obvious reasons in real life so they may try to disassociate from here.
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Imagine saying the TRUTH in incels.is and then larping offsite and then getting banned here, brutal blackpill.Or should we be against that kind of gross invasion of privacy here and only judge users by what they do here?
Note: Your answers will be tallied up and the majority sentiment will be reflected in our updated 2022 rules set.
Thank you.
This is what most males do before getting blackpilled btw.
To larp you have to be non chad otherwise you are not larping, most males that larp are non chad > most males are non chad > if you larp you are at least near incel tier.
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Okay I agree with this, context mattersWho knows. I've certainly bullshitted in real life countless times over my years to avoid being shunned. Not something I'd personally do online although it depends on the context for some people I suppose, for example if they feel they may be branded and cast out of a specific hobby community (game/movie/series) that they love and being labeled as an incel which is certainly within reason these days then they may bullshit to stay there because it's the best place to discuss the hobby.
And if the same person is actually also suicidal about their inceldom and they also come here to vent/share experiences or look for advice and support then I wouldn't think it'd be too much of a problem.
Although there are certainly levels to it. For example if someone is posting under the same username here as an account on reddit where they are bragging about their slays and their account is linked to their facebook which has photos of them with recent slays etc then that's another level altogether
Incel has to mean something. So by that token, YES it should. There's a difference between this place and 4chan.
Yeah get rid of the infiltrators
If what they say on the outside contradicts what they said here, like bragging about actually being sexually successful (and not escortcelling) then yes, users should be banned. True incels wouldn't LARP here anyway, although they may LARP about not being incel on the outside.
And if someone has an account here and is actually a beloved poster on IT, they absolutely need to be banned.
I don't really know a reason why we shouldn't ban people bere for offsite activities, if those offsite activities contradict what they post here. Most of us shouldn't have anything to worry about (well, they may be banned from other sites).
And if someone has an account here and is actually a beloved poster on IT, they absolutely need to be banned.
I don't really know a reason why we shouldn't ban people bere for offsite activities, if those offsite activities contradict what they post here. Most of us shouldn't have anything to worry about (well, they may be banned from other sites).
Let's make this simple.Or should we be against that kind of gross invasion of privacy here and only judge users by what they do here?
Note: Your answers will be tallied up and the majority sentiment will be reflected in our updated 2022 rules set.
Thank you.
Can a member of an "Aryan Brotherhood" White Nationalist forum have black friends in real life, post them hanging out with them on their facebook and instagram accounts, and then go back to the White Nationalist forum and say - "Oh that other stuff you saw doesn't count, I can hate niggers on here and be friends with them out there, it's completely separate"?
Do you think that will fly on that forum or will they be banned?
The fact that you are even asking this question is worrying.
Can an incel post a video of himself fucking on Pornhub.com and people just go "well it's not posted specifically on this site so he gets a pass"?
Just by asking this question, whether you realize it or not, you are asserting that this isn't an "incel", it's a "act like an incel" forum.
In other words - "Were not sure if actually being an incel in real life should impact your ability to be a part of this forum"
That's ridiculous, no equivalent question would be asked on any other kind of forum.
YOU WILL NEVER GO TO A VEGAN FORUM AND SEE A THREAD BY A MOD (OR ANY USER) ASKING:
"Should people who get caught eating meat off of the forum be banned or should we give them a pass because it specifically wasn't posted by them here?"
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Depends on if his “car” gives the ok and “green lights” it or not but you already knew that right?Let's make this simple.
Can a member of an "Aryan Brotherhood" White Nationalist forum have black friends in real life, post them hanging out with them on their facebook and instagram accounts, and then go back to the White Nationalist forum and say - "Oh that other stuff you saw doesn't count, I can hate niggers on here and be friends with them out there, it's completely separate"?
Do you think that will fly on that forum or will they be banned?
The fact that you are even asking this question is worrying.
Can an incel post a video of himself fucking on Pornhub.com and people just go "well it's not posted specifically on this site so he gets a pass"
Just by asking this question, whether you realize it or not, you are asserting that this isn't an "incel", it's a "act like an incel" forum.
In other words - "Were not sure if actually being an incel in real life should impact your ability to be a part of this forum"
That's ridiculous, no equivalent question would be asked on any other kind of forum.
YOU WILL NEVER GO TO A VEGAN FORUM AND SEE A THREAD BY A MOD (OR ANY USER) ASKING:
"Should people who get caught eating meat off of the forum be banned or should we give them a pass because it specifically wasn't posted by them here?"
View: https://youtu.be/eumfcEWTab4
Fat Link- making a fool out of blkpillpres since time immemorial.
yes if they're not incel
That just sounds like a hypocrite making special exceptions for himself to me. You are either racist or not, you can't have black friends.
I also made a little edit which you probably didn't see:
This example makes the point a lot clearer, you can't eat meat and then try to be in the "vegan camp" (or car or whatever it is you want to use).
You are either a vegan or you aren't, you can't play both sides.
On that same note, you are either an incel or you aren't.
I don't even know what you're talking about.but you already knew that right?
JFL, this has this cringe feel of when someone tries to choose their own nick name, like they are trying to "speak it into existence" and hope everyone just goes along with itFat Link- making a fool out of blkpillpres since time immemorial.
Keep dreaming though, maybe it will happen one day.
Do you have a text only browser?That just sounds like a hypocrite making special exceptions for himself to me. You are either racist or not, you can't have black friends.
I also made a little edit which you probably didn't see:
This example makes the point a lot clearer, you can't eat meat and then try to be in the "vegan camp" (or car or whatever it is you want to use).
You are either a vegan or you aren't, you can't play both sides.
On that same note, you are either an incel or you aren't.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
JFL, this has this cringe feel of when someone tries to choose their own nick name, like they are trying to "speak it into existence" and hope everyone just goes along with it
Keep dreaming though, maybe it will happen one day.
That would then explain how you missed my video of a giant aryan brotherhood member having a polite and friendly conversation with a massive black guy.
1. They aren't friends, if you show a video of a Vegan talking to a Meat Eater about their lifestyle that doesn't make them any less of a Vegan, what removes their Vegan status would be eating meat on that video. Also he's probably an Ex-Aryan Brotherhood member, he even said in the video that you don't have a choice but to act the role to fit in and survive. So he might not even be a genuine racist.Do you have a text only browser?
That would then explain how you missed my video of a giant aryan brotherhood member having a polite and friendly conversation with a massive black guy.
2. This wouldn't even prove a point either way, All it would be showing is that he's a hypocrite.
A Vegan can't eat meat and then claim to be a Vegan
An Incel can't talk about being attractive and/or having a sex life and still claim to be Incel
An Aryan Brotherhood member can't have black friends who they hang out with and then claim to be part of the Aryan Brotherhood
Those are called CONTRADICTIONS.
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Before reading all the replys.
I say yes.
If someone is a larping larper they should get kicked!
Especially, if someone knows they are larping!
Unless ofc, is, is just some kind of playground for larpers.....
I might add, bastards that withhold such information should be banned too!
......
But then again there's the question of...
Does inceldom grow back? (Unlike virginity)
Celibacy isn't necessarily always virginity. Celibacy can be a choice...
But virginity also can't always be called celibacy. Especially if theirs no choice. But if you choose to remain a virgin if you have a choice, then you are celibate too.
Therefore, I proclaim that virgins that want to have sex are incels!
It is a deep insult to "come in their house" (here) and larp as one.
That's why they should be removed.
My message to larpers:
If you cannot respect your virgin bros, then gtfo!
Or at least keep that shit to yourself! No one wants to know about that ons you had with you're drunk aunt when you were 11! (Well, I do. So please pm me about it. K?) It's not incel if it's inçest!
I say yes.
If someone is a larping larper they should get kicked!
Especially, if someone knows they are larping!
Unless ofc, is, is just some kind of playground for larpers.....
I might add, bastards that withhold such information should be banned too!
Just enable fakecel larpers bro.
......
But then again there's the question of...
Does inceldom grow back? (Unlike virginity)
Celibacy isn't necessarily always virginity. Celibacy can be a choice...
But virginity also can't always be called celibacy. Especially if theirs no choice. But if you choose to remain a virgin if you have a choice, then you are celibate too.
Therefore, I proclaim that virgins that want to have sex are incels!
It is a deep insult to "come in their house" (here) and larp as one.
That's why they should be removed.
My message to larpers:
If you cannot respect your virgin bros, then gtfo!
Or at least keep that shit to yourself! No one wants to know about that ons you had with you're drunk aunt when you were 11! (Well, I do. So please pm me about it. K?) It's not incel if it's inçest!
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Just trying to understand, do you consider inceldom to be an ideology with a specific dogma, or do you think inceldom as just being a life status that happens to some people?
Yeah it should if they are fakecels but not if theyre just being bluepilled or cucks
Inceldom is just a life status, any dogma anyone has is personal, but I mean there have to be some obvious dogmas that we all share else it wouldn't make sense.
I mean could someone really say they are an incel but they support feminists and go to feminist marches to help further women's rights?
Could someone really say they are an incel but they support apps like tinder and they think female hypergamy is "ok"?
That sounds to me more like a troll or an infiltrator than an incel, and I wouldn't believe they are an incel at all even if they were legitimately one, because there are some obvious beliefs inherent to being an incel, because we all expect the people around us to at least not be masochists who support things that go against their own desires.
I have a deep disgust towards larping faggots, doesn't matter on which site.
This kind of dishonesty destroyed the internet. You can't take anyone serious anymore, because anyone could be a larper.
I think we should ban the most obvious ones.
Yes it should, removing a rule like that would make people bragg elsewhere and gloat here.
It's always nice to see that I'm not the only person who is worried about the mindset of most users here. Sadly I'm not a native speaker and can't talk sense into them as well-spoken as you can.Let's make this simple.
Can a member of an "Aryan Brotherhood" White Nationalist forum have black friends in real life, post them hanging out with them on their facebook and instagram accounts, and then go back to the White Nationalist forum and say - "Oh that other stuff you saw doesn't count, I can hate niggers on here and be friends with them out there, it's completely separate"?
Do you think that will fly on that forum or will they be banned?
The fact that you are even asking this question is worrying.
Can an incel post a video of himself fucking on Pornhub.com and people just go "well it's not posted specifically on this site so he gets a pass"?
Just by asking this question, whether you realize it or not, you are asserting that this isn't an "incel", it's a "act like an incel" forum.
In other words - "Were not sure if actually being an incel in real life should impact your ability to be a part of this forum"
That's ridiculous, no equivalent question would be asked on any other kind of forum.
YOU WILL NEVER GO TO A VEGAN FORUM AND SEE A THREAD BY A MOD (OR ANY USER) ASKING:
"Should people who get caught eating meat off of the forum be banned or should we give them a pass because it specifically wasn't posted by them here?"
You're right, it's worrying that this question is even asked.
I cleared this up further a few posts later:-
"Who knows. I've certainly bullshitted in real life countless times over my years to avoid being shunned. Not something I'd personally do online although it depends on the context for some people I suppose, for example if they feel they may be branded and cast out of a specific hobby community (game/movie/series) that they love and being labeled as an incel which is certainly within reason these days then they may bullshit to stay there because it's the best place to discuss the hobby.
And if the same person is actually also suicidal about their inceldom and they also come here to vent/share experiences or look for advice and support then I wouldn't think it'd be too much of a problem.
Although there are certainly levels to it. For example if someone is posting under the same username here as an account on reddit where they are bragging about their slays and their account is linked to their facebook which has photos of them with recent slays etc then that's another level altogether
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Yes and no. It's very easy to fake discord screenshots, for example.
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if users offsite activity goes against them, what will happen is it will encourage vigilante tier actions by users here to seek out users who brag on others sitesOr should we be against that kind of gross invasion of privacy here and only judge users by what they do here?
let's make a comparison to "pedo hunters". pedo hunters deliberately go out of their way to enforce laws by seeking out criminals, instead of letting the higher ups take care of it. they think to themselves, "oh the law enforcement isn't good enough, I'll take it into my own hands"
so if we ban users for offsite activities, the implications of such a policy are to tell the users to be "vigliantes" and stalk other users outside the forum. and this includes lying in order to infiltrate discords or other secret circles
so, if you truly are against "invasion of privacy", you should know the implications of setting up such a rule
Why are you saying what you said like that's a bad thing.
If someone is so stupid that they use the same username on an incel forum as they do the other sites where they brag, the least that should happen to someone that stupid is being banned lol.
Also don't forget to complete the event sequence.
Once people catch on to the vigilantism they'll see it as too much effort to come to incel forums and larp, and they'll go elsewhere, the end.
Sounds like a great outcome to me.
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up to @Fat Link to decide, whether he wants privacy or vigilantes
Would only make sense if someone here is clearly identified as some larper fakecel because they posted their larps on soyddit or some shit like that.
What do you mean by "privacy"?, these guys are literally bragging on incel discords and other incel forums using the same username they use on this incel forum. Even they don't care about "privacy". If they did they'd never get caught. Literally all it takes is to use a different user name and not out yourself as a bragger, if they can't even do that they don't care about privacy, what they want to do is blatantly troll.
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It's tough because it would be easy to get something out of context or even create fakes and shit to try and incriminate someone you don't like here. But if it's well known that someone is a liferuler braggart and then he LARPs as a truecel here, then I think that can be an exception.
tl;dr only when it's too blatant/obvious.
tl;dr only when it's too blatant/obvious.
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fat link is the one who used the word privacy, you should ask him.
so if someone uses a different username, but through a collection of evidence, their username and identities on other sites are linked, and then linked to a brag post by a brag post on another site, is that something that should suddenly be "given a pass"? i dont think you would say so
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Sorry, I'm a "boomer" and not getting something here. How are you going to know what the users here are doing on other sites? Are you actually using the same nicks on other sites?
I don't think you get the real point here and it's kind of worrying that you don't.
There is no circumstance for "a pass", if you aren't an incel YOU SHOULD NOT BE HERE, end of discussion.
I don't even know why people are trying to play all these mental gymnastics games - "Oh you didn't catch me fairly so it doesn't count"
It doesn't work like that lol.
They should not be here period, it doesn't matter how they got caught.
I'm saying the LEAST they should have to do is use a different username if they want to larp, but if they still get caught because they repeat "behaviors" or keep giving out personal details that match up on their different accounts, that's also their fault, but again, THEY SHOULD NOT BE HERE ANYWAYS.
If a Vegan is caught eating meat secretly, it doesn't matter if they got caught on a secret bathroom camera scarfing down a burger, they will be excommunicated, and rightfully so, BECAUSE THEY ARE A LARPER AND THEY AREN'T REALLY VEGAN.
Remember, how they are caught is not the issue, the issue is they should not be a part of that group to begin with.
I don't know why you are speaking about this as if there's some aspect of "fairness" that's supposed to apply, like this is some legal issue and catching them "the wrong way" is like what lawyers call "fruit from the poisonous tree", so we have to "throw the case out" lol.
No, that has nothing to do with anything, they shouldn't be here period because they aren't incels. There is no special ruleset of how they should get caught else they "get a pass", that's retarded.
It's like saying someone can literally be Chad but because he got caught "the wrong way" he should be allowed to browse the forum and talk to all of us until he "slips up".
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well duh, when i said "i dont think you would say so", thats what i was implying here. this is an incel forum
yeah, i never said anything about "fairness" about "how they get caught", or whatever, i think you are jumping to conclusions here
i was just saying some of these dudes, who use different usernames, do care a tad for privacy. although they still slip up
so the admin will have to decide if in these cases, what he will prioritize, their privacy, or this forums vigilante actions
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if they're retarded enough to leave breadcrumbs on other sites that ties them back to their incels account, then that's their problem. It wends people out that probably arent a good fit for this community anyway
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Unless the two forums are run by the same people who can confirm an IP match for the user a rule like that would always be vulnerable to false flagging. Anyone can register a username somewhere and pretend to be the guy they're trying to fuck with.
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discord servers are private, and are available by invite only
if someone brags in a server, and it gets leaked, that is something that was private, that was made public
of course, many would still want that person banned, because they are not incel
but it is a violation of privacy, especially because discord is notorious for fakecels, so you have people with a clear cut intent on infiltrating these discords, with the intent to spy and keep an eye out for any braggers, and then screenshot and run here and expose publicly
whether this type of vigilante behavior is acceptable is up for debate according to fat link, but dont act like its "full blown public", that would be intellectual dishonesty
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If they've admitted to not being incels and having sex before or that they are just here to troll/fuck with the site then yes of course. Other then that what they say off site is their own business
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@Fat Link if you look here, its clear as day that mr @shii410 has decided to just evade this point. seems he isn't too concerned with exact truths, but is willing to leave out critical details which may not support his case
so if you decide to implement this rule, you can expect this forum to become full of "fakecel" hunters, who infiltrate private discords in an attempt to spy on people without them knowing, and expose them publicly against their consent when they did expect privacy. and those same people will then act like their cyberstalking was just "the ends justifying the means".
btw, here is an old thread that got bumped recently where this type of vigilante stalking was rewarded
Vippnor, lll and Sparrow’s Song are fakecels.
Storm is Vippnor (be funny and likeable JFL) al sandnigga is Sparrow’s Song I’m sorry, but if you get nudes from girls you know IRL, you are a fakecel. No girl is sending nudes to everyone. Whens the last time you heard rumors about the school whore getting spitroasted by the Chess Club...
incels.is
apparently the final member got unbanned recently (sparrows song) and is now back. but another member (lll) is not back because of this thread. so this rule clearly has a precedence to encourage stalking behaviors
i'm not necessarily saying there is anything wrong with that, btw. i just think you, as an admin, should have the right to an informed decision, and the community as a whole, should be aware that certain members will stalk them on discord, so any "private" discord, they create, they will need to be aware of vigilante actions.
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Only within the realm that the user in question is lying about their celibacy and is a fakecel, though I also think that it should be 100% confirmed that the user being exposed is that user, as it is pretty easy to create fake Discord DMs and whatnot.
Dude, come on now, are you really just going to lie like this.
There's no reason to ask this question at all.
I don't think you realize you're just coming off as a troll, you are speaking as if someone has "the right" to try and infiltrate, larp and troll incels.
If you play stupid games you win stupid prizes.
They are literally going out of their way to invade another groups space to troll them, all bets are off at that point, they don't have any privacy because they are violating other peoples privacy by pretending to be an incel and getting them to reveal personal details (which they often do).
No it really isn't, privacy has nothing to do with a "virtual identity", it has to do with "the real you".
If I started another "anonymous account" for a Vegan forum, went on there starting flame wars, knowing full well I'm a meat eater, and then someone somehow links another anonymous account post about me eating meat to my anonymous vegan account, my privacy hasn't been violated, they don't know who I am in real life and so long as they don't go searching no privacy has been violated.
A violation of privacy is when you impact someones actual life, social standing, finances, etc.
You are really just playing word games right now.
As long as nothing ends up affecting my actual life (social standing, finances, employment opportunities, etc) and never gets linked back to "the real me" I don't care and I don't consider it "private".
They are exposing THEIR FAKE identity, not their real life name, address, etc. Why are you speaking like there's some problem with outing a larpers fake identity. If you were talking about doxxing their real names, addresses, etc I'd understand your point, but you aren't, you are acting like getting outed as a faker is a violation of privacy, it isn't, their real life stays untouched and they go back to their normie real life (as it should be)
"THINK ABOUT THE "VIRTUAL RIGHTS" OF THE TROLLS THAT LAUGH US BROS"
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Its not about punishment why being banned from an incel website would be an punishment? its about being incel vs not being incel, we as men cant say for sure based on looks alone but if someone admits having voluntary sex thats it, he is not an incel.
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