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Warning: long overly personal boring read !!

I will share my experience as an autistic retard trying to become a normie and ascend, it's going to be a bit long but i just want to share my experience with self improving and claims like "get a hobby", "get a passion" "lose weight" and other common stuff normies says and how it actually impacted my life.

For a bit of context i recently turned 20 which is still an age many would still have some hope and i started all the self improvement when i was 15.
The main reason i started self improvement was because of fear of missing out on parties and seeing all normies having cool lives while i rotted on discord with my few online friends, i wanted to have a taste of being considered normal and being loved.
I am non NT which mean i did very retarded stuff in my school years that got me bullied and an overall bad reputation which i would need to clean up and gain back.

First part, acting like i was a normalfag.

The main reason i was an outcast was being non-NT and acting out of social norms, i used to intentionally avoid other people and say retarded stuff to them because i didn't know anything about what i was supposed to do with people so to learn that i started getting close to people.
Most of the conversation i started were janky asf but surprisingly it was pretty easy to talk to normies. Or so i thought, because they always tried to get away from me, i don't believe i was making bad jokes nor being annoying, i was just doing casual talk about school shit like they would do. To make it short, i was tolerated but not appreciated, even after getting closer to some of the normies in my class i was still never spoken to, never invited to parties and such, always last in PE etc.

The only good thing is that i can get actual conversations with people and women and i can somewhat get physical language.

I think i would have more luck on that part if i just got into another school, but i live in a small city so i didn't really have any choice + my parents drove me to school and they didn't want to drive to the next school.

Second part, from obese loser to fit loser.

Another one of my main problem was being a fat fuck, like 90kg for 5ft3 fat. It was also the skinny fat type of fat, the absolute fucking worst body type and i knew it was something i needed to change. Bluepilled hope really gave me the will to actually lose weight, down to 65kg. I've also done weightlifting and calisthenics to not be a twig and have physical capabilities.
I never really was picked on because of my weight, but i knew that having a bloated face was fucking ass and that i could get at least half a point of face, and i was often mocked for my face because it looks childish and i always look like i'm way older and my height doesn't help.

I didn't really observe any changes between how people treated me when i was fat and when i was fit, i just get ignored more often than mocked but as i said i was more mocked for being weird asf. I did manage to arm wrestle mog a litechad in front of his gf one time while trying to get closer to normies, felt good man.

Third part, "the reason no women want you is because you are boring"

I totally agree with this statement, i was boring, so it's something i have worked on by getting some other hobbies other than vidya and saying the nword on internet. First hobby i tried was digital art, i always wanted to draw because i wanted to draw funny stuff for the internet groups i was in (and for porn) and also because many of the people i met were drawfags. I wouldn't say i'm good at it but i wouldn't say it's too bad, it's not really something i used i just learned some drawing when i was bored asf like anatomy, shading, basic stuff.

Nowaday i don't really draw because i don't have any will to do it, i just don't really care and i don't have any fun doing it anymore.

I'm going to quickly list out other things i've learned to be less boring:
Piano, Music composition (mostly vidya remixes, maybe should have gone for something more normie-ish but fuck it), Poetry, singing and voice acting.

Fourth part, touching grass 15 years after

The thing normies are right with is that women will never approach you if you don't approach them, which is almost correct because if you are chad you will be approached. So it was now time to graze the grass and see what it actually does.

Spoiler: It does nothing!

Most women outside are minding their own business, they really aren't looking to get interrupted, especially by any incels even if you are being polite or a fucking douche, theres a reason PUA hate exists, it's because it just doesn't work if you are genetically malformed.

The best chances i've had with women was ironically by sitting my ass on my computer chair on discord trying to get e-girls to play with me (don't worry i don't do that now and i've never paid anything to any e-whore). But in the end it's always the same script "i'm taken" "i'm not interested" "we can be friends". I will not talk about how my discussions with foids ended when i showed my face because we all know how it ended, sadly.

So, what changed?

With normies things have changed a bit, i had to move in a new school for my studies and i had a fresh start, and it's an all men class so it's pretty cool for once, they are chill and aren't trying to prove anything by bullying randoms, really happy on this because at least school is bearable now, i really wanted to drop out before because of litechads niggers.
But i still rot in my room because they live far so i can't do shit.

However i wouldn't say anything have changed with women, no matter the amount of interest they just wouldn't care. Though now i have the confirmation that nah, i never really stood any chance anyway, but it stills anger me to know that i was doomed from the start.

I would still be at the same point if i did nothing of that self improvement bullshit, and i would have fed less foid ego.

Boring shit and precisions

Thank you if you read this shitty vent, i just wanted to show normies that no, your self improving bullshit is not some miracle solution that will solve every incel problem, if the problem was to "treat women with respect" i would have got a gf before this bullshit because i never was rough torward women, i am rough with women now because why would i care about people who never cared? Even when doing everything right? incels are not retarded they are not going to insult women and treat them like objects ad a first interaction, i was listening to women problems on discord without questioning if their problems was a big deal or not.

"I am not in their shoes, how could i be sure of their feelings after all ?" Is what i blindly followed a couple of years before, unknowing that they didn't give two shits about my life.

most of incels are people who had no success in dating (duh) despite trying everything. The main reason why incels are showing hatred torward women is because they are just fed up and being edgy, most people would react like that if they were treated like subhumans their whole lives, even more so if they were proven right to what was their fear, the fear of being not like the others, a fucking outcast.
 
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Are you still 5'3?
 
Self improvement is fucking braindead cope Chad doesn`t need to self improve because he already has the genetics and looks which is all foids care about
 
Self improvement is fucking braindead cope Chad doesn`t need to self improve because he already has the genetics and looks which is all foids care about
Chad mogged me the moment i had to do any effort only to get a 1/100th of his level
 
You mean you are non-NT?
NT - neurotypical, meaning not autistic or too high inhib
 
Chad mogged me the moment i had to do any effort only to get a 1/100th of his level
Exactly which is why there is no point fuck this cruel existence
 
You mean you are non-NT?
NT - neurotypical, meaning not autistic or too high inhib
yeah i kinda fucked it up, i'm non-NT, diagnosed with adhd very young and having trouble recognizing emotions, it's almost 2am i kinda wrote it in one go ill correct it
 
yeah i kinda fucked it up, i'm non-NT, diagnosed with adhd very young and having trouble recognizing emotions, it's almost 2am i kinda wrote it in one go ill correct it
It's ok brocel, just wanted to help you out
 
I can relate to this post. Albeit not as short as you are, I still was 5'8-5'9 in a very demanding private school where wealthy people would lump all their chad/tallfag white kids together to compete against each other. Of course, I had no redeeming qualities at first save for my intellect and grades (which no one cares about other than using you for homework).

Then I started the self-improvement route because of a foid I liked and was close to, cringe I know. Big surprise, it changed nothing in the way people saw me. Got physically fit, improved my social skills a lot (after doing retarded shit though), mogged a few classmates in strength and even improved my already good grades. Where did that get me? Nowhere. I barely got included in social circles out of convenience where my mates mocked me for my appearance regardless of my physique (face and frame moment). Then to get to parties I had to sneak in by asking my best friend who actually got invited to those a few times. Regardless of that, whenever I went to them I only saw foids be with the guys who were the top 20% of our school, most of the time older than themselves while I stayed fucking around with the few LTN friends I had in the background.

Shit's hard, and it made me lose motivation in anything regarding foids and socialmaxxing. I just can't be bothered to do 10x the effort to not even be a tenth of chad in the eyes of the public. Right now in college I cut off contact with everyone from HS because it pissed me off to be treated like a freak. It is what it is but coping and LDARing 24/7 ended up my only choice.
 
Holy shit I relate to this. The only thing "self improvement" did for me was I stopped getting bullied at least
 
Self improvement is for 6ft+ high tier normies if you are sub 7 dont even bother.
 
Reasonable self-improvement (leanmaxxing, skincare, surgeries) works to some extent but if you’re 5’3 and a sperg then it’s game over
 
I can relate to this post. Albeit not as short as you are, I still was 5'8-5'9 in a very demanding private school where wealthy people would lump all their chad/tallfag white kids together to compete against each other. Of course, I had no redeeming qualities at first save for my intellect and grades (which no one cares about other than using you for homework).

Then I started the self-improvement route because of a foid I liked and was close to, cringe I know. Big surprise, it changed nothing in the way people saw me. Got physically fit, improved my social skills a lot (after doing retarded shit though), mogged a few classmates in strength and even improved my already good grades. Where did that get me? Nowhere. I barely got included in social circles out of convenience where my mates mocked me for my appearance regardless of my physique (face and frame moment). Then to get to parties I had to sneak in by asking my best friend who actually got invited to those a few times. Regardless of that, whenever I went to them I only saw foids be with the guys who were the top 20% of our school, most of the time older than themselves while I stayed fucking around with the few LTN friends I had in the background.

Shit's hard, and it made me lose motivation in anything regarding foids and socialmaxxing. I just can't be bothered to do 10x the effort to not even be a tenth of chad in the eyes of the public. Right now in college I cut off contact with everyone from HS because it pissed me off to be treated like a freak. It is what it is but coping and LDARing 24/7 ended up my only choice.
I don't think i would have survived being in a private school, shit must have been hell i wouldn't have survived it i think.

The fact that the only way we can only live trough rotting in our homes makes me so fucking angry, maybe it didn't have to be like this if i knew how people worked when i was 10yrs (which is pretty much impossible or very hard to be self conscious about our situation at that age). But i would have fell off after school anyway, but at least i could have good memories.
 
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yea no shit you grayfaggot
 
Holy shit I relate to this. The only thing "self improvement" did for me was I stopped getting bullied at least
Me too like you go from being a punching bag to only being invisible to everyone eye's because you're not the school lolcow anymore
 
Stopped reading here. No wonder you're incel.
at least i tried, i shouldn't have but at least i have the living proof that inceldom is truly something i can't do shit about so i don't really have that much remorse to myself and can keep LDAR without feeling too bad.

Yes that's a huge cope, but fuck this life.
 
Reasonable self-improvement (leanmaxxing, skincare, surgeries) works to some extent but if you’re 5’3 and a sperg then it’s game over
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yea no shit you grayfaggot
I really tried to appear as normal as i could to everyone with the help of some discord friends who weren't spergs, in the end i can look pretty much normal with social interactions and no one would notice if they don't talk regularly with me after a year of trying to look normal.

The problem is that it fucked me up so much when i was young, everyone would still see me as someone who is autistic no matter if i was talking like a normie or like a retard.


off topic but im going to rant about how i want every tiktok faggots who are making autism quirky and cool to get tortured and graped in GTAV online.
Being retarded is not funny it makes you an outcast and ruin your life if you don't meet enough social criteria + most of them are posers and attention whores faking disabilities, they are on of the lowest human filth on earth.
 
I don't think i would have survived being in a private school, shit must have been hell i wouldn't have survived it i think.

The fact that the only way we can only live trough rotting in our homes makes me so fucking angry, maybe it didn't have to be like this if i knew how people worked when i was 10yrs (which is pretty much impossible or very hard to be self conscious about our situation at that age). But i would have fell off after school anyway, but at least i could have good memories.
Yeah, me too. Sometimes I wish I could go back so I didn't just LDAR, play games, be picky with my food or mouth breathe like a retard as a kid to stunt my development, instead going out to socialize and play sports like I should have so I wouldn't be fucked as a teen. Turns out I was very talented as a goalkeeper but I started way too late, so what could have been a professional career went to nowhere instead since my peers had started playing since childhood.

Maybe if I had knowledge I could have gotten fit early and defend myself against the bullies, become a MTN even. Anything would've been better than being a good christcuck who questioned nothing like my family told me, believing that everything is fair, looks don't matter and blah blah. Nowdays life is hell for me, at least back then in HS I had people to go out with (albeit shitty, but beggars can't be choosers).
 
Yeah, me too. Sometimes I wish I could go back so I didn't just LDAR, play games, be picky with my food or mouth breathe like a retard as a kid to stunt my development, instead going out to socialize and play sports like I should have so I wouldn't be fucked as a teen. Turns out I was very talented as a goalkeeper but I started way too late, so what could have been a professional career went to nowhere instead since my peers had started playing since childhood.

Maybe if I had knowledge I could have gotten fit early and defend myself against the bullies, become a MTN even. Anything would've been better than being a good christcuck who questioned nothing like my family told me, believing that everything is fair, looks don't matter and blah blah. Nowdays life is hell for me, at least back then in HS I had people to go out with (albeit shitty, but beggars can't be choosers).
If you want to feel better about all of that just know that the way you are now is pretty much the fault of your parents and their shitty beliefs.

Mine were extremely toxic with letting me go outside, every time i wanted to go somewhere it would always fall into arguing with my parents because they were scared smth would happen to me, like bitch we live in a small town where everyone knows each other what are they afraid of?

Pretty much like you i got gutted of being able to do sports and such and became a rotter because what would they want me to do at home instead of playing vidya while i was 10?

Education is so fucking important and i had to pretty much learn socializing by myself at 15. But man i was supposed to learn that by going outside and play with the ones from my school.

I skipped talking about it in my post but i obviously got to talk with multiple therapists, but it wasn't very useful because it was never about stopping to rot but "feeling at place" and guess what my place is? Rotting at home and not interacting with anyone because everyone was pushing me around.

But there's always the possibility that even if everything was done right, shit could have just not worked anyway.
 
If you want to feel better about all of that just know that the way you are now is pretty much the fault of your parents and their shitty beliefs.

Mine were extremely toxic with letting me go outside, every time i wanted to go somewhere it would always fall into arguing with my parents because they were scared smth would happen to me, like bitch we live in a small town where everyone knows each other what are they afraid of?

Pretty much like you i got gutted of being able to do sports and such and became a rotter because what would they want me to do at home instead of playing vidya while i was 10?

Education is so fucking important and i had to pretty much learn socializing by myself at 15. But man i was supposed to learn that by going outside and play with the ones from my school.

I skipped talking about it in my post but i obviously got to talk with multiple therapists, but it wasn't very useful because it was never about stopping to rot but "feeling at place" and guess what my place is? Rotting at home and not interacting with anyone because everyone was pushing me around.

But there's always the possibility that even if everything was done right, shit could have just not worked anyway.
Coincidentally I also began to socialmaxx and mimic normies at 15 since that was the age where hormones kicked in and realized I wouldn't be able to catch any foid as a rotter. Can relate to the part of living in a town too, albeit not that small. That fact somehow makes me more depressed because there are even less chances to know people or get laid here.

Shitty upbringing can really make the difference, and helicopter parents are always annoying. Even when I could sneak into parties they would bother me about not getting back too late and shit, had to fight them in order to just go. That's why if I ever had kids for some godforsaken reason (99% chance I don't though) I'll just teach them blackpill stuff from the beginning. It's true that most is determined at birth yes, but wasting your youth to the point you are not even ''part of the group'' is extremely depressing since those years will pretty much never come back and it gets worse with time. Not to mention during that period pretty much no one tryhards at sports so you'd have a pretty big advantage anyway. In college you have to compete against chads, gymmaxxers, semi-pro athletes and high IQ moggers. That's the point where being normal simply isn't enough anymore, and people like us get further left behind.
 
you want to feel better about all of that just know that the way you are now is pretty much the fault of your parents and their shitty beliefs.
Can't stress this enough. So much of your happiness depended on your parents. They had FULL control over the course of your development, starting with their genes, then the food they fed you, how much they monitored your physical health and your habits, your social development, how much love they gave you and whether they prepared you for the harshness of life as a male. Shit like giving you a starting place to live on your own and taking care of your education expenses also counts.
This is like basic requirements for proper, responsible parenting.

If you're unhappy and suffering that means they completely failed you.
 
Coincidentally I also began to socialmaxx and mimic normies at 15 since that was the age where hormones kicked in and realized I wouldn't be able to catch any foid as a rotter. Can relate to the part of living in a town too, albeit not that small. That fact somehow makes me more depressed because there are even less chances to know people or get laid here.

Shitty upbringing can really make the difference, and helicopter parents are always annoying. Even when I could sneak into parties they would bother me about not getting back too late and shit, had to fight them in order to just go. That's why if I ever had kids for some godforsaken reason (99% chance I don't though) I'll just teach them blackpill stuff from the beginning. It's true that most is determined at birth yes, but wasting your youth to the point you are not even ''part of the group'' is extremely depressing since those years will pretty much never come back and it gets worse with time. Not to mention during that period pretty much no one tryhards at sports so you'd have a pretty big advantage anyway. In college you have to compete against chads, gymmaxxers, semi-pro athletes and high IQ moggers. That's the point where being normal simply isn't enough anymore, and people like us get further left behind.
I don't think that teaching them the blackpill asap is the best choice.

Part of why i regret not being normal is that i didn't have the bliss of ignorance, while blackpilled you don't believe in love anymore, you don't trust people, you can't believe someone is truly your friend, you always doubt of everything, you see everything in a bland and depressing but honest and fair filter of truth. Everything is just more depressing if you are blackpilled, chad is happy because he never had to go trough the blackpill to cope.
That's why every normie is so reluctant (may he be an incel or not) to the blackpill, they don't want to feel sad, they want hope, want to believe in love, want to believe they have a chance, they are going to seek every single way to refute the blackpill because it shows that social relationships and your value as an individual are determined at the start and changing any of is impossible for most men. Normies hate to admit that they don't really had any choice.

I would educate my kids by making sure they are social and by being close to them but not intrusive with their hobbies and such. Trying to learn a sport to my kids, going biking with them, giving them praise if they do something cool, you know like any parent should.
Just making sure they have fun while also being prepared for when they will need to become adults and give them as much help for them to become succesful.
All of this while not letting them know the blackpill, someone who hasn't even heard of the blackpill and is well educated will most likely end up happier than me.
 
Can't stress this enough. So much of your happiness depended on your parents. They had FULL control over the course of your development, starting with their genes, then the food they fed you, how much they monitored your physical health and your habits, your social development, how much love they gave you and whether they prepared you for the harshness of life as a male. Shit like giving you a starting place to live on your own and taking care of your education expenses also counts.
This is like basic requirements for proper, responsible parenting.

If you're unhappy and suffering that means they completely failed you.
Exactly. I would happily fix what my parent did wrong and this would give me a will to keep going on, but i will never have a chance to and i can only cope.
 
Coincidentally I also began to socialmaxx and mimic normies at 15

Man, I'm also another of those who did this, I was able to maintain the social mask in my adolescence, literally falsepersonalitymaxxing. But I ended up going back to the cave and the mask was destroyed when I finished high school. I had it to survive in a brutal and cruel environment.
 
Leg length surgery asap
 
Leg length surgery asap
I thought about it but by the time i get the money to it will be too late, i still lived most of my life being small.
even if i'm lucky and manage to be 5ft 10 somehow it's still an average height with nothing special
 
I thought about it but by the time i get the money to it will be too late, i still lived most of my life being small.
even if i'm lucky and manage to be 5ft 10 somehow it's still an average height with nothing special
I'm about 5'10 and even though I get mogged by tallmoggers from time to time my height was never commented on or seen as an issue so I would rather be average than manlet
 
I'm about 5'10 and even though I get mogged by tallmoggers from time to time my height was never commented on or seen as an issue so I would rather be average than manlet
at 5'3 even if you get LL you'll still be small. everything will be small and you'll just look like a manlet with freakishly long legs - a feminine trait
 
at 5'3 even if you get LL you'll still be small. everything will be small and you'll just look like a manlet with freakishly long legs - a feminine trait
probably still an improvement but don't forget, 99% of LL is botched
 
Brutal , your Life is a Scam and now your atleast aware of it .
 
Great post OP but you are wrong wrong WRONG!!! about the boring personality part even mattering…

When it comes to the boring part as my best friend in this community @Todd The Harpooner will most certainly attest to.

If you were good looking/attractive and handsome (pick one of those adjectives) women wouldn’t give a shit.

They would throw themselves at you regardless.

They would fill in the blanks with their own fantasies surrounding your boring personality for you…

Example:

“Why doesn’t he talk very much? Oh it’s because he’s so mysterious!”

“That poor guy doesn’t say very much, he must be feeling down about something. Guess I better go and cheer him up with my pussy!”

“Wow that guy is so handsome and brooding. I wonder what dark thoughts he harbors in that incredible mind of his?!!”

Etc, etc.
 
Great post OP but you are wrong wrong WRONG!!! about the boring personality part even mattering…

When it comes to the boring part as my best friend in this community @Todd The Harpooner will most certainly attest to.

If you were good looking/attractive and handsome (pick one of those adjectives) women wouldn’t give a shit.

They would throw themselves at you regardless.

They would fill in the blanks with their own fantasies surrounding your boring personality for you…

Example:

“Why doesn’t he talk very much? Oh it’s because he’s so mysterious!”

“That poor guy doesn’t say very much, he must be feeling down about something. Guess I better go and cheer him up with my pussy!”

“Wow that guy is so handsome and brooding. I wonder what dark thoughts he harbors in that incredible mind of his?!!”

Etc, etc.
Attractive good, Ugly bad.
 
getting fit did make people respect me more i feel. but if you were 5'3, you never were gonna get respect to begin with.
 
Great post OP but you are wrong wrong WRONG!!! about the boring personality part even mattering…

When it comes to the boring part as my best friend in this community @Todd The Harpooner will most certainly attest to.

If you were good looking/attractive and handsome (pick one of those adjectives) women wouldn’t give a shit.

They would throw themselves at you regardless.

They would fill in the blanks with their own fantasies surrounding your boring personality for you…

Example:

“Why doesn’t he talk very much? Oh it’s because he’s so mysterious!”

“That poor guy doesn’t say very much, he must be feeling down about something. Guess I better go and cheer him up with my pussy!”

“Wow that guy is so handsome and brooding. I wonder what dark thoughts he harbors in that incredible mind of his?!!”

Etc, etc.
He watches gore and browses incel sites? Wow he's soooo edgy teehee
 
Great post OP but you are wrong wrong WRONG!!! about the boring personality part even mattering…

When it comes to the boring part as my best friend in this community @Todd The Harpooner will most certainly attest to.

If you were good looking/attractive and handsome (pick one of those adjectives) women wouldn’t give a shit.

They would throw themselves at you regardless.

They would fill in the blanks with their own fantasies surrounding your boring personality for you…

Example:

“Why doesn’t he talk very much? Oh it’s because he’s so mysterious!”

“That poor guy doesn’t say very much, he must be feeling down about something. Guess I better go and cheer him up with my pussy!”

“Wow that guy is so handsome and brooding. I wonder what dark thoughts he harbors in that incredible mind of his?!!”

Etc, etc.
Yeah i wasn't aware at the time that "personality mattering" was just a cope to keep us trying and providing when i started my self improvement. It was something i noticed myself because i wasn't very talkative and it was something i got remarks about so i thought that changing it might be the key.

But yeah it doesn't matter, nothing changed when i talked or not with others, if i was rotting or trying, it all comes down to how you were born.

I'm so fed up of foids and bluepillers that keep talking about how personality is important while they both willfully blind themselves to the fact that the true personality that people perceive of you is only from physical appearance by halo effect.
 
Warning: long overly personal boring read !!

I will share my experience as an autistic retard trying to become a normie and ascend, it's going to be a bit long but i just want to share my experience with self improving and claims like "get a hobby", "get a passion" "lose weight" and other common stuff normies says and how it actually impacted my life.

For a bit of context i recently turned 20 which is still an age many would still have some hope and i started all the self improvement when i was 15.
The main reason i started self improvement was because of fear of missing out on parties and seeing all normies having cool lives while i rotted on discord with my few online friends, i wanted to have a taste of being considered normal and being loved.
I am non NT which mean i did very retarded stuff in my school years that got me bullied and an overall bad reputation which i would need to clean up and gain back.

First part, acting like i was a normalfag.

The main reason i was an outcast was being non-NT and acting out of social norms, i used to intentionally avoid other people and say retarded stuff to them because i didn't know anything about what i was supposed to do with people so to learn that i started getting close to people.
Most of the conversation i started were janky asf but surprisingly it was pretty easy to talk to normies. Or so i thought, because they always tried to get away from me, i don't believe i was making bad jokes nor being annoying, i was just doing casual talk about school shit like they would do. To make it short, i was tolerated but not appreciated, even after getting closer to some of the normies in my class i was still never spoken to, never invited to parties and such, always last in PE etc.

The only good thing is that i can get actual conversations with people and women and i can somewhat get physical language.

I think i would have more luck on that part if i just got into another school, but i live in a small city so i didn't really have any choice + my parents drove me to school and they didn't want to drive to the next school.

Second part, from obese loser to fit loser.

Another one of my main problem was being a fat fuck, like 90kg for 5ft3 fat. It was also the skinny fat type of fat, the absolute fucking worst body type and i knew it was something i needed to change. Bluepilled hope really gave me the will to actually lose weight, down to 65kg. I've also done weightlifting and calisthenics to not be a twig and have physical capabilities.
I never really was picked on because of my weight, but i knew that having a bloated face was fucking ass and that i could get at least half a point of face, and i was often mocked for my face because it looks childish and i always look like i'm way older and my height doesn't help.

I didn't really observe any changes between how people treated me when i was fat and when i was fit, i just get ignored more often than mocked but as i said i was more mocked for being weird asf. I did manage to arm wrestle mog a litechad in front of his gf one time while trying to get closer to normies, felt good man.

Third part, "the reason no women want you is because you are boring"

I totally agree with this statement, i was boring, so it's something i have worked on by getting some other hobbies other than vidya and saying the nword on internet. First hobby i tried was digital art, i always wanted to draw because i wanted to draw funny stuff for the internet groups i was in (and for porn) and also because many of the people i met were drawfags. I wouldn't say i'm good at it but i wouldn't say it's too bad, it's not really something i used i just learned some drawing when i was bored asf like anatomy, shading, basic stuff.

Nowaday i don't really draw because i don't have any will to do it, i just don't really care and i don't have any fun doing it anymore.

I'm going to quickly list out other things i've learned to be less boring:
Piano, Music composition (mostly vidya remixes, maybe should have gone for something more normie-ish but fuck it), Poetry, singing and voice acting.

Fourth part, touching grass 15 years after

The thing normies are right with is that women will never approach you if you don't approach them, which is almost correct because if you are chad you will be approached. So it was now time to graze the grass and see what it actually does.

Spoiler: It does nothing!

Most women outside are minding their own business, they really aren't looking to get interrupted, especially by any incels even if you are being polite or a fucking douche, theres a reason PUA hate exists, it's because it just doesn't work if you are genetically malformed.

The best chances i've had with women was ironically by sitting my ass on my computer chair on discord trying to get e-girls to play with me (don't worry i don't do that now and i've never paid anything to any e-whore). But in the end it's always the same script "i'm taken" "i'm not interested" "we can be friends". I will not talk about how my discussions with foids ended when i showed my face because we all know how it ended, sadly.

So, what changed?

With normies things have changed a bit, i had to move in a new school for my studies and i had a fresh start, and it's an all men class so it's pretty cool for once, they are chill and aren't trying to prove anything by bullying randoms, really happy on this because at least school is bearable now, i really wanted to drop out before because of litechads niggers.
But i still rot in my room because they live far so i can't do shit.

However i wouldn't say anything have changed with women, no matter the amount of interest they just wouldn't care. Though now i have the confirmation that nah, i never really stood any chance anyway, but it stills anger me to know that i was doomed from the start.

I would still be at the same point if i did nothing of that self improvement bullshit, and i would have fed less foid ego.

Boring shit and precisions

Thank you if you read this shitty vent, i just wanted to show normies that no, your self improving bullshit is not some miracle solution that will solve every incel problem, if the problem was to "treat women with respect" i would have got a gf before this bullshit because i never was rough torward women, i am rough with women now because why would i care about people who never cared? Even when doing everything right? incels are not retarded they are not going to insult women and treat them like objects ad a first interaction, i was listening to women problems on discord without questioning if their problems was a big deal or not.

"I am not in their shoes, how could i be sure of their feelings after all ?" Is what i blindly followed a couple of years before, unknowing that they didn't give two shits about my life.

most of incels are people who had no success in dating (duh) despite trying everything. The main reason why incels are showing hatred torward women is because they are just fed up and being edgy, most people would react like that if they were treated like subhumans their whole lives, even more so if they were proven right to what was their fear, the fear of being not like the others, a fucking outcast.

I prefer to just rot and just do whatever I feel like, instead of wasting my life self improving
 
I'm about 5'10 and even though I get mogged by tallmoggers from time to time my height was never commented on or seen as an issue so I would rather be average than manlet

The minimum height to be considered a human being is between 5'6 and 5'7

It is always better to be average than to be seen as a joke
 
Warning: long overly personal boring read !!

I will share my experience as an autistic retard trying to become a normie and ascend, it's going to be a bit long but i just want to share my experience with self improving and claims like "get a hobby", "get a passion" "lose weight" and other common stuff normies says and how it actually impacted my life.

For a bit of context i recently turned 20 which is still an age many would still have some hope and i started all the self improvement when i was 15.
The main reason i started self improvement was because of fear of missing out on parties and seeing all normies having cool lives while i rotted on discord with my few online friends, i wanted to have a taste of being considered normal and being loved.
I am non NT which mean i did very retarded stuff in my school years that got me bullied and an overall bad reputation which i would need to clean up and gain back.

First part, acting like i was a normalfag.

The main reason i was an outcast was being non-NT and acting out of social norms, i used to intentionally avoid other people and say retarded stuff to them because i didn't know anything about what i was supposed to do with people so to learn that i started getting close to people.
Most of the conversation i started were janky asf but surprisingly it was pretty easy to talk to normies. Or so i thought, because they always tried to get away from me, i don't believe i was making bad jokes nor being annoying, i was just doing casual talk about school shit like they would do. To make it short, i was tolerated but not appreciated, even after getting closer to some of the normies in my class i was still never spoken to, never invited to parties and such, always last in PE etc.

The only good thing is that i can get actual conversations with people and women and i can somewhat get physical language.

I think i would have more luck on that part if i just got into another school, but i live in a small city so i didn't really have any choice + my parents drove me to school and they didn't want to drive to the next school.

Second part, from obese loser to fit loser.

Another one of my main problem was being a fat fuck, like 90kg for 5ft3 fat. It was also the skinny fat type of fat, the absolute fucking worst body type and i knew it was something i needed to change. Bluepilled hope really gave me the will to actually lose weight, down to 65kg. I've also done weightlifting and calisthenics to not be a twig and have physical capabilities.
I never really was picked on because of my weight, but i knew that having a bloated face was fucking ass and that i could get at least half a point of face, and i was often mocked for my face because it looks childish and i always look like i'm way older and my height doesn't help.

I didn't really observe any changes between how people treated me when i was fat and when i was fit, i just get ignored more often than mocked but as i said i was more mocked for being weird asf. I did manage to arm wrestle mog a litechad in front of his gf one time while trying to get closer to normies, felt good man.

Third part, "the reason no women want you is because you are boring"

I totally agree with this statement, i was boring, so it's something i have worked on by getting some other hobbies other than vidya and saying the nword on internet. First hobby i tried was digital art, i always wanted to draw because i wanted to draw funny stuff for the internet groups i was in (and for porn) and also because many of the people i met were drawfags. I wouldn't say i'm good at it but i wouldn't say it's too bad, it's not really something i used i just learned some drawing when i was bored asf like anatomy, shading, basic stuff.

Nowaday i don't really draw because i don't have any will to do it, i just don't really care and i don't have any fun doing it anymore.

I'm going to quickly list out other things i've learned to be less boring:
Piano, Music composition (mostly vidya remixes, maybe should have gone for something more normie-ish but fuck it), Poetry, singing and voice acting.

Fourth part, touching grass 15 years after

The thing normies are right with is that women will never approach you if you don't approach them, which is almost correct because if you are chad you will be approached. So it was now time to graze the grass and see what it actually does.

Spoiler: It does nothing!

Most women outside are minding their own business, they really aren't looking to get interrupted, especially by any incels even if you are being polite or a fucking douche, theres a reason PUA hate exists, it's because it just doesn't work if you are genetically malformed.

The best chances i've had with women was ironically by sitting my ass on my computer chair on discord trying to get e-girls to play with me (don't worry i don't do that now and i've never paid anything to any e-whore). But in the end it's always the same script "i'm taken" "i'm not interested" "we can be friends". I will not talk about how my discussions with foids ended when i showed my face because we all know how it ended, sadly.

So, what changed?

With normies things have changed a bit, i had to move in a new school for my studies and i had a fresh start, and it's an all men class so it's pretty cool for once, they are chill and aren't trying to prove anything by bullying randoms, really happy on this because at least school is bearable now, i really wanted to drop out before because of litechads niggers.
But i still rot in my room because they live far so i can't do shit.

However i wouldn't say anything have changed with women, no matter the amount of interest they just wouldn't care. Though now i have the confirmation that nah, i never really stood any chance anyway, but it stills anger me to know that i was doomed from the start.

I would still be at the same point if i did nothing of that self improvement bullshit, and i would have fed less foid ego.

Boring shit and precisions

Thank you if you read this shitty vent, i just wanted to show normies that no, your self improving bullshit is not some miracle solution that will solve every incel problem, if the problem was to "treat women with respect" i would have got a gf before this bullshit because i never was rough torward women, i am rough with women now because why would i care about people who never cared? Even when doing everything right? incels are not retarded they are not going to insult women and treat them like objects ad a first interaction, i was listening to women problems on discord without questioning if their problems was a big deal or not.

"I am not in their shoes, how could i be sure of their feelings after all ?" Is what i blindly followed a couple of years before, unknowing that they didn't give two shits about my life.

most of incels are people who had no success in dating (duh) despite trying everything. The main reason why incels are showing hatred torward women is because they are just fed up and being edgy, most people would react like that if they were treated like subhumans their whole lives, even more so if they were proven right to what was their fear, the fear of being not like the others, a fucking outcast.
Your problem is your looks. Genetics determine your life.
 

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