Right Wing Feminism is the ultimate hypocrisy

[SwiftQuill]

By right wing here I'm referring to economic right. Capitalism.

I had a foid coworker once who was far right in terms of economics and far left in terms of wokeness/feminism. It's the most selfish, most biased, most hypocritical political position a foid can hold.

Far left feminism:

• Looks at society through a lens of oppressed vs oppressor
• Women are all oppressed (yes, even Taylor Swift, the billionaire) and men are all the oppressors/the privileged class (yes, even that minimum wage mcdonalds worker)
• Any problem in a foid's life is due to the Patriarchy
• Marxist view of the world where women must unite to fight against the Patriarchy
• Any problem in a foid's life is never seen as an individual problem, but as a problem of society, to be studied purely from a sociological lens, and women are never at fault for anything, 0 personal responsibility
• If any woman struggles in the job market (earns a low sallary, struggles to compete against male candidates), it's all due to the patriarchy and we urgently need affirmative action to fix this
• Focuses on the top 0.1% richest men and blames them for every problem in the world

Far right capitalism:

• If you're a NEET, you are destroying the economy, there's no reason to be a NEET in today's age
• If you are poor, broke, or struggle to make ends meet, and you're a male, it's 100% your fault
• Supports cutting all forms of government subsidies that aid social mobility (like free tuition for males of low income)
• Supports decreasing taxes for Amazon and all big corporations
• Supports immigrants stealing our jobs and ruining the job market and house market
• Is against increasing minimum wage
• The whole marxist sociologist perspective? Gone. If you were born poor, if capitalism is fucking you in the ass, and you are a male, it's 100% your fault.

It's so hypocritical it's painful. At least left wing feminists acknowledge that capitalism is evil. But right wing feminist foids are so impressively selfish, so delusionally narcissistic, even for foid standards they shock me.

 

[Vittum]

Reasoning with a woman is like reasoning with a wall; it's a waste of time. They are purely contradictory beings and highly biased toward their own sex

 

[Sonicfancel]

This. The normies most likely to blame men for everything in the world are right-wing. Even "based" streamers like Nick Fluentes will blame everything on men not doing this or that.

 

[Hoodpreet]

"Socially liberal, fiscally conservative"

 

[Fortress Resolution]

Reasoning with a woman is like reasoning with a wall; it's a waste of time. They are purely contradictory beings and highly biased toward their own sex

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Far right capitalism:

• If you're a NEET, you are destroying the economy, there's no reason to be a NEET in today's age

No, our position is to abolish socialism/communism so you're able to get a job. I don't blame NEETS I blame Marxism.

• If you are poor, broke, or struggle to make ends meet, and you're a male, it's 100% your fault

No, it's the fault of the Communist Commissioners and Socialist Bureaucrats.

• Supports cutting all forms of government subsidies that aid social mobility (like free tuition for males of low income)

Correct, because you'd have the money in a free market because wealth would be more abundant.

• Supports decreasing taxes for Amazon and all big corporations

Correct, they're job creators.

• Supports immigrants stealing our jobs and ruining the job market and house market

We support immigrants because they are needed to build houses, thus correcting the housing market, and their increases to GDP will boom the job market so everyone can get jobs again.

• Is against increasing minimum wage

Correct, it's an evil piece of legislation.

• The whole marxist sociologist perspective? Gone. If you were born poor, if capitalism is fucking you in the ass, and you are a male, it's 100% your fault.

Except capitalism doesn't fuck anyone, it's only socialism/communism which fucks people. Capitalism enriches all who choose to work, and under capitalism there's always jobs.

It's so hypocritical it's painful. At least left wing feminists acknowledge that capitalism is evil. But right wing feminist foids are so impressively selfish, so delusionally narcissistic, even for foid standards they shock me.

Left wing feminists are way more hypocritical. If you believe in oppressor vs oppressed and you think we need to redistribute wealth you should be for redistribution of toilets too.

 

[SwiftQuill]

No, our position is to abolish socialism/communism so you're able to get a job. I don't blame NEETS I blame Marxism.

No, it's the fault of the Communist Commissioners and Socialist Bureaucrats.

Correct, because you'd have the money in a free market because wealth would be more abundant.

Correct, they're job creators.

We support immigrants because they are needed to build houses, thus correcting the housing market, and their increases to GDP will boom the job market so everyone can get jobs again.

Correct, it's an evil piece of legislation.

Except capitalism doesn't fuck anyone, it's only socialism/communism which fucks people. Capitalism enriches all who choose to work, and under capitalism there's always jobs.

Left wing feminists are way more hypocritical. If you believe in oppressor vs oppressed and you think we need to redistribute wealth you should be for redistribution of toilets too.

You fail to see the issues with late stage capitalism. Maybe if you were working a minimum wage job, barely able to survive, incapable of going to college (too expensive), incapable of starting a business (no capital), if you had ever been stuck in life, as I've been, you would see that late stage capitalism is a disease.

If you're the type of person who thinks all issues in society are caused by lazy individuals who don't want to work, or by "socialist" policies, you don't understand how things work.

Some things can't be explained in the form of debate. You need to go through live and experience these injustices to understand they exist. And you need to be really brainwashed by a specific political ideology if you refuse to see problems within it.

Late stage capitalism leads to unlivable wages (slave wages), inability to move up in the social ladder (no social mobility), inability to start a business on your own, inability to compete in the job market (because you lack the expensive education).

This isn't to say we should poo poo capitalism as a whole. But late stage capitalism is objectively unfair and objectively unhealthy for 90% of people.

And lastly you're kind of ignoring my main point of this thread. The main point isn't to hate on capitalism. The main point is to highlight the blatant hypocrisy of believing in a marxist worldview in the form of feminism, and a hyper capitalist worldview at the same time. Surely even if you like capitalism, you understand this hypocrisy.

 

[Sloth]

"Socially liberal, fiscally conservative"

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

You fail to see the issues with late stage capitalism. Maybe if you were working a minimum wage job, barely able to survive, incapable of going to college (too expensive), incapable of starting a business (no capital), if you had ever been stuck in life, as I've been, you would see that late stage capitalism is a disease.

I sympathize with them and that's why I want to abolish Communism so that they're able to live a decent life.

If you're the type of person who thinks all issues in society are caused by lazy individuals who don't want to work, or by "socialist" policies, you don't understand how things work.

If you think it has anything else other than socialist policies, you don't understand economics.

Some things can't be explained in the form of debate. You need to go through live and experience these injustices to understand they exist. And you need to be really brainwashed by a specific political ideology if you refuse to see problems within it.

I agree, you have been 100% brainwashed to be against capitalism when capitalism would solve every single economic issue people have.

Late stage capitalism leads to unlivable wages (slave wages), inability to move up in the social ladder (no social mobility), inability to start a business on your own, inability to compete in the job market (because you lack the expensive education).

Then why does that only happen under Communism/Bidenism?

This isn't to say we should poo poo capitalism as a whole. But late stage capitalism is objectively unfair and objectively unhealthy for 90% of people.

Yet when we had capitalism, people did much better than now.

And lastly you're kind of ignoring my main point of this thread. The main point isn't to hate on capitalism. The main point is to highlight the blatant hypocrisy of believing in a marxist worldview in the form of feminism, and a hyper capitalist worldview at the same time. Surely even if you like capitalism, you understand this hypocrisy.

Because capitalism isn't a zero sum game. Under capitalism we all become wealthy.

 

[SwiftQuill]

I sympathize with them and that's why I want to abolish Communism so that they're able to live a decent life.

If you think it has anything else other than socialist policies, you don't understand economics.

I agree, you have been 100% brainwashed to be against capitalism when capitalism would solve every single economic issue people have.

Then why does that only happen under Communism/Bidenism?

Yet when we had capitalism, people did much better than now.

Because capitalism isn't a zero sum game. Under capitalism we all become wealthy.

You have a very simple minded, idealistic idea of what capitalism is.

You can't be loyal to any ideology in life. Almost no ideology is perfect. Each has pros and cons. Capitalism has worked historically yes, but it is still very problematic.

And yes, capitalism is a zero sum game. That's kind of the basis of economics. There's only so much money, only so many resources, only so many jobs. I'm not super into macroeconomics but I'm educated on microeconomics.

Your arguments, the ones you presented for capitalism, are very Ben Shapiro like, common sense arguments. They aren't sophisticated, they aren't rigorous. You might as well say "If you hate capitalism, why don't you escape it and go move to Cuba?"

Your attitude can't be simple minded as "capitalist policy = good, socialist policy = bad". Certain "socialist" policies are objectively good. And some are mandatory, to keep the system remotely functional. For instance, I come from a low income family, so the state paid for my college tuition. With that education, now I got a decent job as a software engineer. Without that tuition, I would have taken years, working at mcdonalds, saving money before even starting college. I would have become a more productive member of society much later in life. This would be Ben Shapiro's wet dream: me working at Mcdonalds for 10 years or so, saving enough money to go to college, and only in my mid 30's or so would I BEGIN working at a remotely decent job. If this is what you want for society, you're delusional, no offense. Why on earth would I need to suffer and slave away for many years, barely able to survive and put away any money, and life a shit life like that? If I'm intelligent, and I'm good at a field (Information Tech), why would Capitalism keep that job opportunity locked away from me? It's irrational to defend such ideas.

I suggest you do actual research on the issues with capitalism. Do research on the housing crisis. The job market saturation. Inflation. The productivity x wages gap. And be objective about it. Don't assume it's "the socialists" fault for everything.

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

You have a very simple minded, idealistic idea of what capitalism is.

You can't be loyal to any ideology in life. Almost no ideology is perfect. Each has pros and cons. Capitalism has worked historically yes, but it is still very problematic.

And yes, capitalism is a zero sum game. That's kind of the basis of economics. There's only so much money, only so many resources, only so many jobs. I'm not super into macroeconomics but I'm educated on microeconomics.

You have a very very very simplistic understanding of the world. Resources are not limited. The entire point of NeoClassical Economics is that there is unlimited wealth, the only bottleneck is our willingness to produce it. In the 1700s they could only imagine that the world could feed a billion people, they failed to consider advances in technology and farming. The people who predicted stagnation in the 50s didn't predict computers or new forms of wealth like digital music and wealth. There's so much we can create that we don't even know yet.

Your arguments, the ones you presented for capitalism, are very Ben Shapiro like, common sense arguments. They aren't sophisticated, they aren't rigorous. You might as well say "If you hate capitalism, why don't you escape it and go move to Cuba?"

And that's why I look down on people who don't adhere to capitalism, it's so basic to support capitalism, it's like saying 2+2=4. You're not profound if you deny basic math.

Your attitude can't be simple minded as "capitalist policy = good, socialist policy = bad". Certain "socialist" policies are objectively good. And some are mandatory, to keep the system remotely functional. For instance, I come from a low income family, so the state paid for my college tuition. With that education, now I got a decent job as a software engineer. Without that tuition, I would have taken years, working at mcdonalds, saving money before even starting college. I would have become a more productive member of society much later in life.

In a free market system there would be an abundance of capital for you to borrow money to go to college and become a software engineer. The interest you'd pay on the debt would be less than your taxes right now, meaning you'd be in a better position under a Shapiro world than under a socialist system. That policy is objectively bad for you. You wouldn't need to work at McDonalds, at 18 you could take out the loan and go get your degree.

This would be Ben Shapiro's wet dream: me working at Mcdonalds for 10 years or so, saving enough money to go to college, and only in my mid 30's or so would I BEGIN working at a remotely decent job. If this is what you want for society, you're delusional, no offense. Why on earth would I need to suffer and slave away for many years, barely able to survive and put away any money, and life a shit life like that? If I'm intelligent, and I'm good at a field (Information Tech), why would Capitalism keep that job opportunity locked away from me? It's irrational to defend such ideas.

I suggest you do actual research on the issues with capitalism. Do research on the housing crisis. The job market saturation. Inflation. The productivity x wages gap. And be objective about it. Don't assume it's "the socialists" fault for everything.

I suggest you read books, don't believe everything you here. Do RESEARCH, read books, learn about science, learn about the job market, learn about housing, learn about marxism and the soviet union.

The only reason you support socialism is because you choose not to better yourself and get a job, you want to live off the State which will never ever give you fulfillment. Go work a job, if you really did study computer science then you should WANT TO WORK, not live off handouts for life.

 

[SwiftQuill]

The only reason you support socialism is because you choose not to better yourself and get a job, you want to live off the State which will never ever give you fulfillment. Go work a job, if you really did study computer science then you should WANT TO WORK, not live off handouts for life.

What are you talking about? I do work a job. I don't get handouts. I've never received a "handout" except for the time my tuition was paid. I work hard, and smart, and I have 3 college degrees (I paid for 2 of them by the way, only the first one was free).

Also I never said I was a socialist. If I make a post criticising the disease of late stage capitalism, that doesn't mean I'm a socialist or a communist. I'm pointing out flaws with the current economic system.

And frankly all of your arguments to me come across as very Ayn Rand and Ben Shapiro like. You seem very loyal to capitalism and you're attacking and strawmanning me for criticising it.

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

What are you talking about? I do work a job. I don't get handouts. I've never received a "handout" except for the time my tuition was paid. I work hard, and smart, and I have 3 college degrees (I paid for 2 of them by the way, only the first one was free).

What are you talking about, I have researched capitalism. Since I was 14 I've read Keynes, Hayek, Krugman, Picketty, Mises, Rand, etc. Pretty much all I do is read about capitalism and study these issues. The more I studied the more I realized how good capitalism is and how evil socialism is.

Also I never said I was a socialist. If I make a post criticising the disease of late stage capitalism, that doesn't mean I'm a socialist or a communist. I'm pointing out flaws with the current economic system.

You endorsed government sponsored education which is socialist by definition.

And frankly all of your arguments to me come across as very Ayn Rand and Ben Shapiro like. You seem very loyal to capitalism and you're attacking and strawmanning me for criticising it.

Of course I am, I've read about this issue for my entire life, it's all I do, and of course I have strong opinions of it. I realized how pretty much every issue we have is due to socialism. People can't afford houses people can't get jobs.

 

[blackpillednigga]

feminists, zionists, and white nats are collectivist for themselves and individualistic for others. that's why it's not actually contradicting to see them sometimes support either systems, since it depends on WHO they are applying it to

 

[Lucid1700]

Funny thing is that a lot of european governments have a similar ideology to this, or at least act on it.

 

[Lucid1700]

Your attitude can't be simple minded as "capitalist policy = good, socialist policy = bad". Certain "socialist" policies are objectively good. And some are mandatory, to keep the system remotely functional.

You can't really pick which policies the governments will enforce though, so you have to pick the one that fucks you over the least, which for me are the ones with less socialist and more libertarian policies (to be more specific a freer or completely free market and the abolishment of taxes)

 

[yeetbender_]

"Socially liberal, fiscally conservative." (Anti-Christ Path)

"Socially conservative, fiscally liberal." (Based Path)

 

[SwiftQuill]

"Socially conservative, fiscally liberal." (Based Path)

Based.