nobody had rights in that time, 90% of greek and roman society could not read or write. Its classic foid move to focus on the top percentage of man in a society and claim that this reflects all men, while ignoring 90% of men because they are insivible to them.
Only about 20 percent of the population of Athens were citizens. Women were not citizens and therefore could not vote or have any say in the political process.
These citizens were also rich and powerful, proving my point:
In fact, 71-73% of the citizen population owned 60-65% of the land.
courses.lumenlearning.com
So it was not a democracy, but a plutocracy, a rule of the rich and powerful. They like to pretend this was some precursor to modern democracy when it was nothing like that.
Athens practiced a
political system of
legislation and executive bills. Participation was open to adult, free male citizens (i.e., not a
metic, woman or slave).
Adult male citizens probably constituted no more than 30 percent of the total adult population.[5]
en.wikipedia.org
On women being treated like objects - ancient greeks complained about marriage sucking for men. Idk how that jives with "total control" over women, but yeah. Throughout history we find examples of men complaining about their wifes and shit, again this makes no sense if men had total control over women.
video View: https://youtu.be/WQpC_5Ha7Ng PDF from video is attached here: https://mega.nz/file/8vdG0JqK#0_5wwaI_fB_wgON5h3wwM8utFrk-YwENUoWs7YtlJA4 TLDR - women know their privileges and power. Voting rights for women seemed to take that power from them, and make them equal to men...
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I want to point out another problem:
Women were generally excluded from political life, denied formal education, and expected to remain in domestic roles. In Athens, for example, women had very few rights and were legally under the authority of their male relatives. They could not own property independently or participate in democracy.
Question: Why is this bad? They can not be held legally responsible (their relatives are), they do not go to war, they are not expected to carry legal responsibility like when voting. Education was considered a punishment for boys often back then. Education did not mean, studying, like nowadays, but forming, disciplining of character. Women were exempt from because it was though they didnt need to be disciplined.
There is a lot of misinformation about the supposed "historical oppression" of women. While I don't deny that there were some unequal gender norms and practices (which usually went both ways), a lot of the claims around this topic are simply not true. Most of these exaggerated claims can be...
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The idea that keeping someone from being legally responsible and effectively making them a fucking lifelong NEET is somehow a punishment, is ridiculous. In our time people complain about norwegian prisons being too luxurious, but when it comes to foids not having rights and instead getting their ass buttered from cradle to grave, then its "oppression."
