- Nov 7, 2017
- 116d 23h 40m
lay off the pipe bro
your personality said:In my previous posts I've said that even though I don't believe it as helpful as it sounds that I still make the effort and small talk even knowing it probably won't lead to anything most of the time.
Normies are obsessed with status and looks more than is acknowledged and can be so petty as to withhold extra information. What have people here said before? It doesn't matter how good your personality skills are or how you establish rapport and build common interests. It's all looks and social/sexual appeal. What makes you think that this suddenly stops because the workplace is designated as a "professional" environment? It only continues but in more subtle ways.
"This actually happened to me, contacted another guys friend who is a successful trader and he said he won't teach me his strategy because he isn't as close to me as his friend I knew at work (completely understandable), so I just asked for basic info"
But again the definition of "closeness" and knowing someone is something normies use as a goalpost. It's always that no matter what they don't really know you that well if they see you as socially lower than them. What could that stem from if despite best efforts at talking about common interests they still insist on being distant? So in your specific example it's because the person said they didn't know you. Does that mean it's going to be like that in every or most cases? I don't think you can say that. Then the reason in other cases can then fall down to basic things like looks and social status (which is not always synonymous with career status - there are many hardworking guys that chat with co workers that still don't have a lot of status).
Funny you say this sounds like the account of a basement dweller. Do you mean someone who doesn't go outside and is a permanent NEET? Or do you mean someone that has had some experience with this and closed themselves off more when things weren't working? Because if the latter the argument you are making sounds similar to the argument bluepillers make about how incels just don't try, are scared to fail when talking to girls and are assuming things are about looks when they don't get an adequate response.
If that's true when talking about social experiences (not just dating), why are there so many people on this site that say otherwise and have had similar such experiences? Particularly when not everyone here is a NEET?
@Lonelycel @Gymcelled D @LittleBoy
Biases and looking down on unattractive guys don't go away just because you are in a professional work setting either tbh it just gets expressed more lowkey. You can still tell that no matter what you are being treated and taken less seriously and are just a second thought at best even when you humble yourself and ask for help.Lonelycel said:I think ethnicity plays a big part in social/workplace dynamics, I know for a fact there are plenty of negative stereotypes about us and if I'm being honest, at my workplace I don't even bother talking to the better looking white men because they are so arrogant it's insane, along with the fact that most of them are racist as fuck. I can see it in their faces when I'm talking to them, there's no hiding it. Perhaps this may be down to the fact that I work in a supermarket which employs a lower class of people and shit might be different in a higher tier organisation but I don't know.
You could've saved several minutes of your life and countless arguments and Walls of texts if you just said this initially.BlkPillPres said:More like, stop lying to yourself theory, everything else comes naturally from that decision
Do you know what "blood diamonds" are?tinted_vision said:you pay money and get a service in return
the price is agreed upon by both parties
how does that make men the "predator"?
one side agreed to provide a service. if no one agreed to provide a service, then the service would not be provided.BlkPillPres said:Do you know what "blood diamonds" are?
tinted_vision said:one side agreed to provide a service. if no one agreed to provide a service, then the service would not be provided.
by agreeing to provide a service, you accept the potential consequences of providing/failing to provide that service. this is particularly true in markets with minimal oversight and regulation (e.g. prostitution).
if I choose to enter the drug market, I accept the potential consequences if a deal goes bad. this is because I am willingly entering a market with minimal oversight and regulation.
also, if you agree to provide a service and refuse to deliver that service after agreed payment, then you scammed the other side. you cannot simply bend the definition of scamming to exclude women.
you're not going to bother because you have no responseBlkPillPres said:I'm not going to bother, you are literally ignoring everything I said, nothing you responded with has anything to do with my argument, I bring up an example of people being forced, your response is still about people agreeing to do services, you must be legit retarded because I don't expect anyone to be this disingenuous
BlkPillPres said:IN CONCLUSION:
Let me make this simple for you, If you are going to be a guy who leverages his resources (money, nationality, etc) to exploit women for sex (and yes, that is what you are doing as a man who pays an escort, or a prostitute, or a mail order bride, or a gold digger, etc).
It seems you didn't pay attention to certain parts in the thread, you are actually agreeing with me right now:Neetocel said:Can't the argument also be made that women who leverage their resources (sex) are exploiting men for money, nationality, etc. and that yes, this is what their are going as a woman who is an escort, a prostitute, or a mail order bride or a gold digger?
If that is the case, isn't this at worst a mutual exploitation? Why is only men the exploiter but not women taking using men's sexual STARVATION to milk resources from them? Sounds like what a SJW would say.
BlkPillPres said:I'll say again, what I said in the gold digger section:
BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE A PREDATOR
YOU INSTEAD BECAME THE PREY
BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO ADMIT TO YOURSELF THAT YOU WERE EXPLOITING A WOMAN
YOU INSTEAD BECAME THE VICTIM OF HER EXPLOITATION
You being "scammed" was nothing but the result of you refusing to admit to yourself your part in "the game", because you refused to admit a "game" was being played at all, so you got played instead lol.
BlkPillPres said:It seems you didn't pay attention to certain parts in the thread, you are actually agreeing with me right now:
My point is that these women are THE ONLY HONEST PARTY IN THE SITUATION
Most men lie to themselves and try to convince themselves that they aren't being "predatory" in nature when they take part in these "markets", the women know full well what they are doing and are honest with themselves about trying to exploit men, that's why I don't feel sorry for the men who get exploited, because had they simply been honest with themselves, they would have expected the woman to try and exploit them
I gave many examples in the thread
For the guys who pay online to fuck escorts and then get ghosted, they know full well no woman wants to fuck them, had they acted like predators and accepted who they are, they would only pay in person to make sure that their prey has to do her part of the bargain
These men lie to themselves so they instead become the prey and are exploited
You see men have the final say on who becomes the prey or not, the woman or themselves, that's why its men's fault when it happens. All you have to do in order to not be exploited in the scenarios I described, is not be a dishonest fool who wants to think of themselves as a "good person" while exploiting others
If you go into these things with a "predator mindset", you won't be exploited
If you go into these things with delusions of you being a "good person" and having "innocent fun", you will be exploited
The choice is yours
Wrong, its fast money but it isn't "easy" moneyNeetocel said:but it is because it is easier to give ass than working
BlkPillPres said:Wrong, its fast money but it isn't "easy" money
Thought Experiment For "Anti-Escortcels" Who Think Whores Are Simply "Being Paid To Do Be A Woman (Do Nothing/No Effort)" And Say "Sex Should Be Free" | Incels.is - Involuntary CelibateFirst off sex has never and will never be free (check this thread out before or after reading this one, order doesn't matter, topics are specific so they can function independently)...incels.is
You simply aren't mentally placing yourself into the role of the woman in all of this. That's something I go into detail about in the thread above
You guys need to stop with this meme, its not a luxury lifestyle, you must be talking about escorts in New York, the places a man like me would go the women are making enough to "live well" and "get by", not live in luxuryNeetocel said:But are you telling me it is predation to pay for a LUXURY lifestyle of a woman?
BlkPillPres said:You guys need to stop with this meme, its not a luxury lifestyle, you must be talking about escorts in New York, the places a man like me would go the women are making enough to "live well" and "get by", not live in luxury
BlkPillPres said:If these women were making so much money, they could simply give it to their bank to invest and live off of the interest they get paid back every month, you guys act like all whores are millionaires or something JFL
BlkPillPres said:Also, a lot of these women are forced into that line of work, there's usually a pimp or gang controlling them from behind the scenes, these women are getting pimped out, and yes, even the "muh escorts" are getting pimped out