- Nov 7, 2017
- 116d 23h 40m
lay off the pipe bro
your personality said:In my previous posts I've said that even though I don't believe it as helpful as it sounds that I still make the effort and small talk even knowing it probably won't lead to anything most of the time.
Normies are obsessed with status and looks more than is acknowledged and can be so petty as to withhold extra information. What have people here said before? It doesn't matter how good your personality skills are or how you establish rapport and build common interests. It's all looks and social/sexual appeal. What makes you think that this suddenly stops because the workplace is designated as a "professional" environment? It only continues but in more subtle ways.
"This actually happened to me, contacted another guys friend who is a successful trader and he said he won't teach me his strategy because he isn't as close to me as his friend I knew at work (completely understandable), so I just asked for basic info"
But again the definition of "closeness" and knowing someone is something normies use as a goalpost. It's always that no matter what they don't really know you that well if they see you as socially lower than them. What could that stem from if despite best efforts at talking about common interests they still insist on being distant? So in your specific example it's because the person said they didn't know you. Does that mean it's going to be like that in every or most cases? I don't think you can say that. Then the reason in other cases can then fall down to basic things like looks and social status (which is not always synonymous with career status - there are many hardworking guys that chat with co workers that still don't have a lot of status).
Funny you say this sounds like the account of a basement dweller. Do you mean someone who doesn't go outside and is a permanent NEET? Or do you mean someone that has had some experience with this and closed themselves off more when things weren't working? Because if the latter the argument you are making sounds similar to the argument bluepillers make about how incels just don't try, are scared to fail when talking to girls and are assuming things are about looks when they don't get an adequate response.
If that's true when talking about social experiences (not just dating), why are there so many people on this site that say otherwise and have had similar such experiences? Particularly when not everyone here is a NEET?
@Lonelycel @Gymcelled @LittleBoy
Biases and looking down on unattractive guys don't go away just because you are in a professional work setting either tbh it just gets expressed more lowkey. You can still tell that no matter what you are being treated and taken less seriously and are just a second thought at best even when you humble yourself and ask for help.Lonelycel said:I think ethnicity plays a big part in social/workplace dynamics, I know for a fact there are plenty of negative stereotypes about us and if I'm being honest, at my workplace I don't even bother talking to the better looking white men because they are so arrogant it's insane, along with the fact that most of them are racist as fuck. I can see it in their faces when I'm talking to them, there's no hiding it. Perhaps this may be down to the fact that I work in a supermarket which employs a lower class of people and shit might be different in a higher tier organisation but I don't know.
You could've saved several minutes of your life and countless arguments and Walls of texts if you just said this initially.BlkPillPres said:More like, stop lying to yourself theory, everything else comes naturally from that decision
Do you know what "blood diamonds" are?tinted_vision said:you pay money and get a service in return
the price is agreed upon by both parties
how does that make men the "predator"?
one side agreed to provide a service. if no one agreed to provide a service, then the service would not be provided.BlkPillPres said:Do you know what "blood diamonds" are?
tinted_vision said:one side agreed to provide a service. if no one agreed to provide a service, then the service would not be provided.
by agreeing to provide a service, you accept the potential consequences of providing/failing to provide that service. this is particularly true in markets with minimal oversight and regulation (e.g. prostitution).
if I choose to enter the drug market, I accept the potential consequences if a deal goes bad. this is because I am willingly entering a market with minimal oversight and regulation.
also, if you agree to provide a service and refuse to deliver that service after agreed payment, then you scammed the other side. you cannot simply bend the definition of scamming to exclude women.
you're not going to bother because you have no responseBlkPillPres said:I'm not going to bother, you are literally ignoring everything I said, nothing you responded with has anything to do with my argument, I bring up an example of people being forced, your response is still about people agreeing to do services, you must be legit retarded because I don't expect anyone to be this disingenuous