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Blackpill Men Who Get "Scammed" By Women Are Really Just Men Who Are Dishonest With Themselves (YOU NEED TO ADMIT TO YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE A PREDATOR!)

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Every once in a while I see a thread by some incel (or guy on reddit) who talks about getting "scammed" by an escort or a fake escort service, or some story about some guy who had money taken from him in a "scam" involving a woman in some fashion, and I can't feel sorry for these guys at all, because I know for a fact based on how they spoke about the scenario they are hypocrite moralfags, that's the only way you could get caught up in these scenarios.

There are many scenarios like this:
Escorts: Never shows up after you paid online.

Prostitutes: "Holds out" and doesn't perform or refuses to do acts you already negotiated after accepting payment (testing to see if you'll take what you paid for by force or "chicken out" and let her have the money).

Gold Diggers: Marries you for as long as necessary and then divorces you for your wealth.

Mail Order Brides/3RD World Marriages: Marries you for as long as possible and leaves when she gets her green card or government assistance (or takes the longer gold digger route).

Etc, etc, etc.


All of these things only happen, because the male "victims" in these scenarios REFUSED TO BE HONEST WITH THEMSELVES.

THEY REFUSED TO ACCEPT THAT THEY ARE A PREDATOR, EXPLOITING WOMEN TO THEIR BENEFIT.

YES, THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE DOING, AND YOU KNOW IT.

YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT IT (LIKE A REAL BLACK PILLER WOULD).



TO THOSE "SCAMMED" BY ESCORTS (LIKE IN THE SCENARIO ABOVE):
That escort you paid for online and she didn't show up. You know full well no woman wants to fuck your ugly ass lol, that's why you are paying, so why are you pretending that this isn't basically a "hostile negotiation".

No woman wants your dick near them but for some reason you thought you could just pay for it online like ordering something from Amazon, risk free, without any woman trying to just take your money and run?

If someone was paying you $300 to do something that disgusts you to your core and is illegal, and you know full well they could never retaliate if you just took the money, wouldn't you consider just taking the money and not doing it too?

The reason why you don't think about it this way (OBJECTIVELY), is because you are the type of man who lies to themselves, you are a moralfag who wants to think of themself as a "good person", rather than admit that you are basically taking advantage of the fact that the women in these professions come from fucked up pasts and are usually lacking in resources, and you are trying to exploit that to your benefit.

If you had just been honest with yourself that YOU ARE A PREDATOR, PREYING ON THIS WEAKNESS, then you would have acted within those parameters, and never paid for it online, because then your prey could escape you.

The only reason you delude yourself into thinking that online payments for something like this is "safe" is because you want to normalize it to yourself and make it feel like more of a "business", so you don't have to admit to yourself the true nature of this arrangement.

EXPLOITATION.

TO THOSE "SCAMMED" BY PROSTITUTES (LIKE IN THE SCENARIO ABOVE):
Why are you surprised when a prostitute tries to withhold sex or not go as far as promised and just take your money?

A woman in this situation is literally only fucking you because she has no choice. Going into it you know full well most of these women come from abusive homes, have been sexually assaulted since childhood, many have been raped as a child or teen (and are still raped to this day), many are working for a pimp out of fear, etc.

They spend their time with a rough crowd and are hardened by their lives, and you think not one of them is going to make you demand the pussy or lose your money? :feelskek: (I am fully prepared to slap a bitch in such a scenario lol, not hard enough to leave a mark though).

Talk about being deluded lol (a lot of you guys, really are skilled at lying to yourself).

If anything I kind of like when shit like this happens to a man, because it reminds him of his place in that interaction, a lot of you guys want to cope and ignore reality, and act like you are some kind of "saint" average joe while paying for sex.

When whores do this, they are putting you on the spot and REMINDING YOU HYPOCRITES WHO YOU REALLY ARE :feelskek:.

So you can either accept that you are a predator and demand/take what you paid for, or keep coping, keep lying to yourself, and get robbed like a pathetic cuck so you can cling to your ego.

The choice is yours, but I won't feel sorry for you.

You paid for something, you have to demand it. If you feel guilty doing so or feel "like a rapist" doing so, then maybe you should have felt too bad about the situation to pay for it to begin with (common sense). Of course you'd never think of this because you'd first have to admit to yourself what you are doing to even consider it.

TO THOSE "SCAMMED" BY GOLD DIGGERS (LIKE IN THE SCENARIO ABOVE):
I doubt anyone on this forum falls into this category, more likely than not its going to be some blue piller scrolling past this thread, but here goes.

You knew full well she was out of your league, you have fucking eyes, but you wanted what you wanted, and that's not the bad part, the bad (more like stupid) part was you doing what I just talked about in the last two scenarios (lying to yourself about YOUR INTENT TO EXPLOIT).

If you are in your 40's and up, and not significantly attractive, then you know full well your raggedy old ass is not even remotely attractive to even a 5/10 in her 20's lol, much more the 6+/10 in her 20's that you are "dating" and "becoming engaged" to, but you keep waking up everyday to tell yourself that lie (self delusion is a man's greatest weakness).

You keep lying to yourself about your role as a PREDATOR in this scenario, trying to exploit the lack of resources a woman has to fuck her.

Please understand what I'm saying, I'm not saying its "wrong", I'm a nihilist, I don't believe right or wrong exists, they are made up human concepts, I'm saying its MALICIOUS.

You know full well what you are doing, but because you lie to yourself and tell yourself this is "mutual", you don't "feel like a bad guy", so you never see her exploitation coming, and you are ironically surprised that she takes whatever money she can get out of you and leaves.

Its really funny when you think about it:
MEN ONLY GET EXPLOITED BY GOLD DIGGERS, BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT TO THEMSELVES THAT THEY WERE INITIALLY EXPLOITING THESE WOMEN LACKING OPPORTUNITIES AND RESOURCES.

In other words:
BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE A PREDATOR
YOU INSTEAD BECAME THE PREY

TO THOSE "SCAMMED" BY MAIL ORDER BRIDES OR WOMEN YOU MARRIED IN 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES (LIKE IN THE SCENARIO ABOVE):
This is pretty much an exclusive WHITE MALE PROBLEM (especially when it comes to South East Asia (SEA), Russian brides, etc).

We've all heard these stories over and over, guy gets married to some attractive Russian woman way out of his league (or SEA asian woman) and thinks that he can bring her back to his home country, thinks that he got a "steal of a deal" (because he knew full well a woman like that would never want him outside of her circumstances).

This is what really angers me about these scenarios that I've brought up.

THE ILLOGICAL NATURE OF THE "DOUBLE THINK" MINDSET A LOT OF MEN SEEM TO HAVE.

THE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE.


How the fuck can you both acknowledge that you are dating a woman out of your league due to her being in harsh/unfavorable conditions AND at the same time not acknowledge what you are doing as exploitation and something "predatory".

It takes a high level of dishonesty and self delusion to pull this shit off, but I digress.

The funniest part is these men always sound SO SURPRISED :feelskek: when these women leave them or start "acting up" after arriving and settling in the western countries they wanted you to take them to to begin with.

I'll say again, what I said in the gold digger section:
BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE A PREDATOR
YOU INSTEAD BECAME THE PREY

BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO ADMIT TO YOURSELF THAT YOU WERE EXPLOITING A WOMAN
YOU INSTEAD BECAME THE VICTIM OF HER EXPLOITATION

You being "scammed" was nothing but the result of you refusing to admit to yourself your part in "the game", because you refused to admit a "game" was being played at all, so you got played instead lol.


Had you been objective, been completely aware of your intent and your exploitation of women, you would have made more calculated choices that benefited you:
1. You go live where she lives and take your resources with you, maybe get a job that pays US that you can do online, etc, that way she remains dependent on you and you have all of the leverage.

2. Try to immerse yourself with the parts of her culture that she enjoys (a minor sacrifice on your part) and distance yourself from western culture as much as possible, so that she does not come under the influence of western feminism and hypergamy.

Etc.

But instead the average guy who marries a mail order bride or marries a woman in a 3rd world country (who he knows full well is far out of his league and only with him due to lack of resources and opportunity), tells himself that "its real love" (lathers on the self delusion) and moves back to his home country with her, only to be surprised when they're broken up a few months or even weeks later



Can a relationship like the above image last?:

Yes

Is it very likely to last and NOT JUST END AS TWO PEOPLE TRYING TO EXPLOIT EACHOTHER (WITH ONLY ONE LYING TO THEMSELVES ABOUT IT)?

NO



TRY AND BE SELF AWARE:

You aren't paying for food here, at the end of the day you are paying for sex when we get down to the core of these "arrangements", you are demanding that someone who is disgusted by you, allow you to stick your dick down their throat and more lol (and you are aware of that disgust, you just block out these thoughts).

Of course there are going to be women trying to escape such a disgusting fate, and instead just steal your money JFL.

The fact that you don't consider this, is proof that you are lying to yourself about how undesirable you are, and lying to yourself about your part in the arrangement.

The problem with you guys is that you lie to yourself, you aren't honest with yourself about your "part in that deal" so you don't think things through AS YOU SHOULD FOR A MAN IN YOUR POSITION.

YOU

ARE
A FUCKING
PREDATOR

Since you refuse to accept that, and you want to see yourself as a "likable", "kind" or "moral" person that is just struggling with the "unfairness of the dating world", YOU GET SCAMMED.

So sorry, but you have no one to blame but yourself for getting scammed in these scenarios, you got scammed because you are an egotistical self deceiving piece of shit, who wants to have it both ways and play both sides, who wants to think of themself as the "nice guy" while taking advantage of the fact that a woman had a terrible upbringing and is low on cash, so you can stick your cock down her throat (my what a "nice guy" you are taking advantage of the fact that this woman has to fuck men that disgust her for money :feelskek:).

I hope anyone reading realizes that:
I AM NOT MAKING ANY MORAL ARGUMENTS OR TAKING A MORAL STANCE

I'm all for doing what I just described, in fact I plan on doing it, exploit away lol. This world is not a fair world so trying to play by the rules is nothing but a self imposed handicap. However don't fall under the delusion of thinking of yourself as "a good person", and then complain about the inevitable end result of you being exploited due to this delusion.

You are the one that created the blind spot (weakness) by lying to yourself.

You can't want blissful ignorance whilst taking advantage of someones shortcomings to your benefit (and not expect them to see you as an "easy mark"). You may not be aware of your exploitation of them, but THEY ARE and they will make you pay for it in the end if you aren't planning ahead and structuring your life so they can't.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY SO MANY MEN WANT TO PAY FOR THE "GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE"

I only just realized this just now while writing this up.

It doesn't have anything to do with intimacy or "wanting to feel loved", it has to do with GUILT and EGO, the girlfriend experience exists so that men who pay for sex can delude themselves into thinking that the experience is "mutual" and you are "both enjoying yourselves a bit", and this "purchase" can only be enjoyed by someone who is dishonest, because nobody who is honest with themselves (and self aware) could ever fall under such a delusion, knowing full well she wouldn't even be talking to you unless you paid her to begin with.

I just know there are a lot of guys fuming right now (lol) who say all kinda shit like - "We both had fun, we went out for drinks first", "you're wrong, she was laughing, we both had a good time and that made the sex better", etc.

You really think that someone who is used to faking orgasms and sexual pleasure can't fake a smile and a few laughs?, can't fake being entertained?, she's probably thinking about her boyfriend while she has sex with you, stop coping, you literally paid extra for a lie.



IN CONCLUSION:
Let me make this simple for you, If you are going to be a guy who leverages his resources (money, nationality, etc) to exploit women for sex (and yes, that is what you are doing as a man who pays an escort, or a prostitute, or a mail order bride, or a gold digger, etc).

THEN
FUCKING
BE
"THAT GUY"


(AND STOP PRETENDING YOU AREN'T "THAT GUY", YOU KNOW FULL WELL YOU AREN'T "NICE", LIFE HAD ALREADY STRIPPED THAT TRAIT FROM YOU LONG AGO)


ACCEPT IT

OWN IT

LOVE IT


Learn to enjoy it, because you aren't doing yourself any favors with your current strategy of self deception.

A predator that doesn't admit that its a predator, won't think or act as a predator, which just makes it an incompetent predator that always makes mistakes, in other words, somebody else's prey. If you won't accept what you are, then that's the fate you have decided for yourself, a life of being played for a fool and exploited by others (especially women).

So long as you are playing fucking mental gymnastics with yourself trying to "feel like a good person", while trying to exploit women for sex, you are only just handicapping yourself because you are just half assing your "role". You'll keep making mistakes, you'll keep getting scammed, and these problems won't end with just women and sex, you'll have the same kind of problems in other aspects of your life, because you are stepping into the ring completely unaware of your surroundings and how seriously you should be taking the situation.
 
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Pengwin said:
Just embrace your dark side theory in short.
If we could do that we wouldn't need an escort JFL :forcedsmile:
 
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that's a lott of words for an ironic argument
 
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"Exploiting women," "predator" :soy:
 
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imsorry said:
it's a fair transaction, i wouldn't feel like a predator tbh.

What's fair about it?

9/10 the only reason a woman is a prostitute is because of circumstances outside of her control, some were even forced into that line of work by gangs, and as a coping mechanism they just continue that life as if to convince themselves "its my choice"

Most women who are prostitutes aren't from "good homes", didn't have a "nice childhood", were usually sexually assaulted and raped in their childhood and teen years, were usually abused, etc

How is it not exploitation to take advantage of the fact that a woman in that state will fuck you for money?

There's nothing fair about that "transaction" at all, and me personally, I don't need it to be "fair" for me to be alright with it, life was never fair to begin with



Johns exploit whores in the same way that the rich exploit the poor, and get them to work for cents on the dollar, while they just live off of society and never work a day in their lives

Ironically those same people will convince themselves that they are "providing employment" and "helping the economy", but that's just more excuses people use to convince themselves of what they want to believe

Its exploitation, plain and simple, even if its necessary for the world to function or its "the way the world works", its still exploitation

I'd like to be on the exploiting end of that equation in every aspect of my life (hence why I'm a wealthmaxxer)

Osentaku Otje said:
that's a lott of words for an ironic argument

That's very few words for a failed attempt at making a point (I don't see the irony)
 
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RREEEEEEEEE said:
"Exploiting women," "predator" :soy:
"human trafficking" :feels:
 
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radishman said:
"human trafficking" :feels:
:feelskek::feelskek: I can understand using these terms ironically, but unironically? Really nigga?!
 
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BlkPillPres said:
9/10 the only reason a woman is a prostitute is because of circumstances outside of her control, some were even forced into that line of work by gangs, and as a coping mechanism they just continue that life as if to convince themselves "its my choice"
Any source on that? If I could make absolute bank off selling my pussy, something that doesn't require any effort other than the feeling of disgust of being fucked by sweaty old men, I probably would. Doesn't mean I came from a broken home.
How can you be forced by gangs to do anything in a first world country?

BlkPillPres said:
Johns exploit whores in the same way that the rich exploit the poor, and get them to work for cents on the dollar, while they just live off of society and never work a day in their lives
"exploit". You're the one handing over a shitton of money. How are you exploiting anyone here?
 
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radishman said:
"human trafficking" :feels:
:lul::lul::lul:

no, you're not exploiting her, because you paid the price SHE demanded for the service. if you paid the price and she didnt appeared, she scammed you and theres no mental gymnastics that will convince me otherwise

BlkPillPres said:
How is it not exploitation to take advantage of the fact that a woman in that state is fuck you for money?
because you didnt forced her anything. you are not forcing her to do something for you, these circumstances out of her control (poor family and living with gangs and shit) have nothing to do with you.

if you think that you are taking advantage of the prostitute you'd have to agree that a boss of some company should not get money for the product of the labor of his workers, he'd be exploiting the workers because he didn't created the product himself even tho he paid for the workers to produce the product.
 
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OverBeforeItBegan said:
If I could make absolute bank off selling my pussy, something that doesn't require any effort other than the feeling of disgust of being fucked by sweaty old men, I probably would.
You would fuck ugly men for money? That's gay bro. I don't think it would be any less disgusting if you were a foid
 
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OverBeforeItBegan said:
Any source on that? If I could make absolute bank off selling my pussy, something that doesn't require any effort other than the feeling of disgust of being fucked by sweaty old men, I probably would. Doesn't mean I came from a broken home.
You are just saying that because you don't have to lol, I don't think you are really mentally placing yourself in that experience

OverBeforeItBegan said:
How can you be forced by gangs to do anything in a first world country?
JFL how can you ask a question like this?, are you saying gangs have no power in first world countries?

The more developed the country, the more dangerous and powerful the criminal organizations are

OverBeforeItBegan said:
"exploit". You're the one handing over a shitton of money.
That's not always the case, especially if you go to different countries, if you are a rich man in new york, and you choose to fuck whores in new york, you are an idiot, you could go to eastern europe and get better quality for hundreds less. I think you are assuming all men just take shitty deals, or fuck "high end escorts"

I think a lot of women who are escorts are doing it by choice, but prostitutes are usually not doing it by choice
 
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BlkPillPres said:
If someone was paying you $300 to do something that disgusts you to your core and is illegal, and you know full well they could never retaliate if you just took the money, wouldn't you consider just taking the money and not doing it too?
low IQ. the scammer doesn't have to be a woman just because it says so online. in fact the business of catfishing is ancient. you want to pick a ride in a carriage that comes along? let a woman show her legs near the street and go into hiding. she asks for a ride and if the person in the carriage accepts, you come out of hiding.
BlkPillPres said:
a guy who leverages his resources (money, nationality, etc) to exploit women for sex (and yes, that is what you are doing as a man who pays an escort, or a prostitute, or a mail order bride, or a gold digger, etc).
a reasonable logic. but if you go down that route you should continue this logical thought to its end. why are these women in the situation that they are in? for example why are there in germany so many eastern women who get 'exploited' as sex workers? some guy or woman walked up to them and told them all sorts of flowery fantasies about how they could become models in germany. that they would be living the life! basically told them they could have it all without having to lift a finger if only they came with them to the west.

so they enter the vehicle, are transported here, their passports conveniently get lost (oops) and now they are trapped in a country whose language they don't even speak without papers. whose fault is that? don't these women only have themselves to blame for ending up in that situation? they abandoned the boring men and life at home and thought they could make fast money and live luxurious lives that they do not deserve. they just wanted everything handed to them on a silver table. if we are already honest with ourselves then let's be honest here too, it's because THESE WOMEN ARE PREDATORS.

also many 'high-class' escorts here are not in a bad financial spot whatsoever. they are mostly students so someone with a higher education and they get paid ~1k € an hour. that is the average joe's monthly income in AN HOUR.

in the end the only winner of any human interaction is the bigger or smarter of two predators because every human that wants something from another is just a predator in that kind of world view unless you can seriously argue that your situation is how you want it to be and you are not forced to earn money through any sort of work. i can argue that i am being exploited by a predatory employer whose job i am forced to work at even though i don't want to be there. and it's a reasonable argument. imo you still aren't being entirely honest with yourself otherwise you would either accept that every human interaction takes place between predators or look at these transactions neutrally as mere business.
 
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TheUltimateMarkcel said:
:lul::lul::lul:

no, you're not exploiting her, because you paid the price SHE demanded for the service. if you paid the price and she didnt appeared, she scammed you and theres no mental gymnastics that will convince me otherwise
Ok by that logic, children that work in sweatshops because their families are poor and they have to help out aren't being exploited by the sweatshop owners because "they are giving them the job they demanded/needed"

There's such a thing as "leverage" and "opportunity", and if you have more of it than someone else, you can exploit them, them accepting that they can't get anything else and you are "the best deal they can get" doesn't mean it isn't exploitation

I don't see why I have to explain something this simple

For example, right now Amazon is putting a lot of local businesses out of business, now imagine if Jeff Bezons sent out recruiters to now hire these people after killing these businesses and negotiating to pay them a lower rate knowing full well they don't have any leverage

Would you say that isn't exploitation by utilizing power and resources?

You'd have to be an idiot to say it isn't

TheUltimateMarkcel said:
because you didnt forced her anything
Of course I didn't, but the circumstances she is at the mercy of did, circumstances that I am aware of, and fully using to my benefit lol

You are just using mental gymnastics right now and playing semantic games to rationalize this as not being exploitation, but it is



GermaniaIncelia said:
low IQ. the scammer doesn't have to be a woman just because it says so online.
I know, I never claimed that it had to be

BlkPillPres said:
Every once in a while I see a thread by some incel (or guy on reddit) who talks about getting "scammed" by an escort or a fake escort service
I just know that in most cases it is, I know it was a lot to read, but what I quoted was literally the first line, I know fake escort services exist and it isn't always run by a woman.
GermaniaIncelia said:
also many 'high-class' escorts here are not in a bad financial spot whatsoever. they are mostly students so someone with a higher education and they get paid ~1k € an hour. that is the average joe's monthly income in AN HOUR.
Which is why I made the distinction between escorts and prostitutes
 
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Lolimancer said:
You would fuck ugly men for money? That's gay bro. I don't think it would be any less disgusting if you were a foid
I would fuck ugly women for money since i'm a guy, sadly there's no market for that and it's not really a fair comparison since if I was a woman I would have access to Gigachads. As an incel I don't even have access to ugly women for free.

BlkPillPres said:
You are just saying that because you don't have to lol, I don't think you are really mentally placing yourself in that experience
Money is powerful. If I could make more than a doctor could dream of without even having to finish highschool and not work long hours, i'd say there's a good chance I would. Why not? Yeah, I wouldn't be happy sucking a fat ugly man's dick, but I also wouldn't be happy slaving away in medschool 20 hours a day or serving dickhead customers at a supermarket for minimum wage.
BlkPillPres said:
JFL how can you ask a question like this?, are you saying gangs have no power in first world countries?
I really don't understand how a gang could have power over a woman in a first world country, especially western Europe or the US. Some shithole in Asia, sure, but explain to me how going to the police wouldn't solve that issue.
BlkPillPres said:
That's not always the case, especially if you go to different countries, if you are a rich man in new york, and you choose to fuck whores in new york, you are an idiot, you could go to eastern europe and get better quality for hundreds less. I think you are assuming all men just take shitty deals, or fuck "high end escorts"
Well, not everyone is just going to fly to a different country because they want to bust a nut in 30 minutes. Prostitution exists all over the world and always has.
Even in eastern Europe you can became wealthy by western European standards by selling your ass if you're a woman. And you don't even need to be that high end.
 
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BlkPillPres said:
You are just saying that because you don't have to lol, I don't think you are really mentally placing yourself in that experience


JFL how can you ask a question like this?, are you saying gangs have no power in first world countries?

The more developed the country, the more dangerous and powerful the criminal organizations are


That's not always the case, especially if you go to different countries, if you are a rich man in new york, and you choose to fuck whores in new york, you are an idiot, you could go to eastern europe and get better quality for hundreds less. I think you are assuming all men just take shitty deals, or fuck "high end escorts"

I think a lot of women who are escorts are doing it by choice, but prostitutes are usually not doing it by choice
So ur saying I should rope is what ur saying. I didn’t ask to be unattractive man I’m trying to find ways man. : ( fuck man
 
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GermaniaIncelia said:
imo you still aren't being entirely honest with yourself otherwise you would either accept that every human interaction takes place between predators or look at these transactions neutrally as mere business.
In order to believe that one would have to delude themselves into thinking that everyone is on equal footing (and were not), the weaker cannot be the predator of the strong, unless the strong leaves themselves very open to attack (which is what this thread is about)

Predators who lie to themselves about their role as predators, so they are open to attack from their prey

If I'm alone with a whore in a hotel room, and she refuses to do what I paid for, I can force myself on her, she can only get away with my money and leave, if I chicken out because I want to "think of myself as a good person", whores exploit that weakness in men who refuse to be honest with themselves, who refuse to accept their role as a predator

They don't want to "feel like a rapist" or "feel like an abuser" and therein lies the cognitive disonnance, because you are paying a woman to do something that you know disgusts her, and you know she is doing this because she lacks resources that you have, so yes, it is exploitation, you are exploiting her lack of resources to your benefit

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So ur saying I should rope is what ur saying
Why is it that you guys only see that option, I already said what I said, you just don't want to see it as an option:

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BE "THAT GUY"

(AND STOP PRETENDING YOU AREN'T "THAT GUY", YOU KNOW FULL WELL YOU AREN'T "NICE", LIFE HAD ALREADY STRIPPED THAT TRAIT FROM YOU LONG AGO)


ACCEPT IT

OWN IT

LOVE IT


Learn to enjoy it
 
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Pengwin said:
Just embrace your dark side theory in short.
It’s only fun if I’m doing it.
 
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Pengwin said:
Just embrace your dark side theory in short.
More like, stop lying to yourself theory, everything else comes naturally from that decision

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If we could do that we wouldn't need an escort JFL :forcedsmile:
I see what you did there lol, but if there are alternatives that can keep us out of prison, those are the better ones to pursue........... for now :feelsaww:
 
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Every once in a while I see a thread by some incel (or guy on reddit) who talks about getting "scammed" by an escort or a fake escort service, or some story about some guy who had money taken from him in a "scam" involving a woman in some fashion, and I can't feel sorry for these guys at all, because I know for a fact based on how they spoke about the scenario they are hypocrite moralfags, that's the only way you could get caught up in these scenarios.

There are many scenarios like this:
Escorts: Never shows up after you paid online.

Prostitutes: "Holds out" and doesn't perform or refuses to do acts you already negotiated after accepting payment (testing to see if you'll take what you paid for by force or "chicken out" and let her have the money).

Gold Diggers: Marries you for as long as necessary and then divorces you for your wealth.

Mail Order Brides/3RD World Marriages: Marries you for as long as possible and leaves when she gets her green card or government assistance (or takes the longer gold digger route).

Etc, etc, etc.


All of these things only happen, because the male "victims" in these scenarios REFUSED TO BE HONEST WITH THEMSELVES.

THEY REFUSED TO ACCEPT THAT THEY ARE A PREDATOR, EXPLOITING WOMEN TO THEIR BENEFIT.

YES, THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE DOING, AND YOU KNOW IT.

YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT IT (LIKE A REAL BLACK PILLER WOULD).



TO THOSE "SCAMMED" BY ESCORTS (LIKE IN THE SCENARIO ABOVE):
That escort you paid for online and she didn't show up. You know full well no woman wants to fuck your ugly ass lol, that's why you are paying, so why are you pretending that this isn't basically a "hostile negotiation".

No woman wants your dick near them but for some reason you thought you could just pay for it online like ordering something from Amazon, risk free, without any woman trying to just take your money and run?

If someone was paying you $300 to do something that disgusts you to your core and is illegal, and you know full well they could never retaliate if you just took the money, wouldn't you consider just taking the money and not doing it too?

The reason why you don't think about it this way (OBJECTIVELY), is because you are the type of man who lies to themselves, you are a moralfag who wants to think of themself as a "good person", rather than admit that you are basically taking advantage of the fact that the women in these professions come from fucked up pasts and are usually lacking in resources, and you are trying to exploit that to your benefit.

If you had just been honest with yourself that YOU ARE A PREDATOR, PREYING ON THIS WEAKNESS, then you would have acted within those parameters, and never paid for it online, because then your prey could escape you.

The only reason you delude yourself into thinking that online payments for something like this is "safe" is because you want to normalize it to yourself and make it feel like more of a "business", so you don't have to admit to yourself the true nature of this arrangement.

EXPLOITATION.

TO THOSE "SCAMMED" BY PROSTITUTES (LIKE IN THE SCENARIO ABOVE):
Why are you surprised when a prostitute tries to withhold sex or not go as far as promised and just take your money?

A woman in this situation is literally only fucking you because she has no choice. Going into it you know full well most of these women come from abusive homes, have been sexually assaulted since childhood, many have been raped as a child or teen (and are still raped to this day), many are working for a pimp out of fear, etc.

They spend their time with a rough crowd and are hardened by their lives, and you think not one of them is going to make you demand the pussy or lose your money? :feelskek: (I am fully prepared to slap a bitch in such a scenario lol, not hard enough to leave a mark though).

Talk about being deluded lol (a lot of you guys, really are skilled at lying to yourself).

If anything I kind of like when shit like this happens to a man, because it reminds him of his place in that interaction, a lot of you guys want to cope and ignore reality, and act like you are some kind of "saint" average joe while paying for sex.

When whores do this, they are putting you on the spot and REMINDING YOU HYPOCRITES WHO YOU REALLY ARE :feelskek:.

So you can either accept that you are a predator and demand/take what you paid for, or keep coping, keep lying to yourself, and get robbed like a pathetic cuck so you can cling to your ego.

The choice is yours, but I won't feel sorry for you.

You paid for something, you have to demand it. If you feel guilty doing so or feel "like a rapist" doing so, then maybe you should have felt too bad about the situation to pay for it to begin with (common sense). Of course you'd never think of this because you'd first have to admit to yourself what you are doing to even consider it.

TO THOSE "SCAMMED" BY GOLD DIGGERS (LIKE IN THE SCENARIO ABOVE):
I doubt anyone on this forum falls into this category, more likely than not its going to be some blue piller scrolling past this thread, but here goes.

You knew full well she was out of your league, you have fucking eyes, but you wanted what you wanted, and that's not the bad part, the bad (more like stupid) part was you doing what I just talked about in the last two scenarios (lying to yourself about YOUR INTENT TO EXPLOIT).

If you are in your 40's and up, and not significantly attractive, then you know full well your raggedy old ass is not even remotely attractive to even a 5/10 in her 20's lol, much more the 6+/10 in her 20's that you are "dating" and "becoming engaged" to, but you keep waking up everyday to tell yourself that lie (self delusion is a man's greatest weakness).

You keep lying to yourself about your role as a PREDATOR in this scenario, trying to exploit the lack of resources a woman has to fuck her.

Please understand what I'm saying, I'm not saying its "wrong", I'm a nihilist, I don't believe right or wrong exists, they are made up human concepts, I'm saying its MALICIOUS.

You know full well what you are doing, but because you lie to yourself and tell yourself this is "mutual", you don't "feel like a bad guy", so you never see her exploitation coming, and you are ironically surprised that she takes whatever money she can get out of you and leaves.

Its really funny when you think about it:
MEN ONLY GET EXPLOITED BY GOLD DIGGERS, BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT TO THEMSELVES THAT THEY WERE INITIALLY EXPLOITING THESE WOMEN LACKING OPPORTUNITIES AND RESOURCES.

In other words:
BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE A PREDATOR
YOU INSTEAD BECAME THE PREY

TO THOSE "SCAMMED" BY MAIL ORDER BRIDES OR WOMEN YOU MARRIED IN 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES (LIKE IN THE SCENARIO ABOVE):
This is pretty much an exclusive WHITE MALE PROBLEM (especially when it comes to South East Asia (SEA), Russian brides, etc).

We've all heard these stories over and over, guy gets married to some attractive Russian woman way out of his league (or SEA asian woman) and thinks that he can bring her back to his home country, thinks that he got a "steal of a deal" (because he knew full well a woman like that would never want him outside of her circumstances).

This is what really angers me about these scenarios that I've brought up.

THE ILLOGICAL NATURE OF THE "DOUBLE THINK" MINDSET A LOT OF MEN SEEM TO HAVE.

THE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE.


How the fuck can you both acknowledge that you are dating a woman out of your league due to her being in harsh/unfavorable conditions AND at the same time not acknowledge what you are doing as exploitation and something "predatory".

It takes a high level of dishonesty and self delusion to pull this shit off, but I digress.

The funniest part is these men always sound SO SURPRISED :feelskek: when these women leave them or start "acting up" after arriving and settling in the western countries they wanted you to take them to to begin with.

I'll say again, what I said in the gold digger section:
BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE A PREDATOR
YOU INSTEAD BECAME THE PREY

BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO ADMIT TO YOURSELF THAT YOU WERE EXPLOITING A WOMAN
YOU INSTEAD BECAME THE VICTIM OF HER EXPLOITATION

You being "scammed" was nothing but the result of you refusing to admit to yourself your part in "the game", because you refused to admit a "game" was being played at all, so you got played instead lol.


Had you been objective, been completely aware of your intent and your exploitation of women, you would have made more calculated choices that benefited you:
1. You go live where she lives and take your resources with you, maybe get a job that pays US that you can do online, etc, that way she remains dependent on you and you have all of the leverage.

2. Try to immerse yourself with the parts of her culture that she enjoys (a minor sacrifice on your part) and distance yourself from western culture as much as possible, so that she does not come under the influence of western feminism and hypergamy.

Etc.

But instead the average guy who marries a mail order bride or marries a woman in a 3rd world country (who he knows full well is far out of his league and only with him due to lack of resources and opportunity), tells himself that "its real love" (lathers on the self delusion) and moves back to his home country with her, only to be surprised when they're broken up a few months or even weeks later

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Can a relationship like the above image last?:

Yes

Is it very likely to last and NOT JUST END AS TWO PEOPLE TRYING TO EXPLOIT EACHOTHER (WITH ONLY ONE LYING TO THEMSELVES ABOUT IT)?

NO



TRY AND BE SELF AWARE:

You aren't paying for food here, at the end of the day you are paying for sex when we get down to the core of these "arrangements", you are demanding that someone who is disgusted by you, allow you to stick your dick down their throat and more lol (and you are aware of that disgust, you just block out these thoughts).

Of course there are going to be women trying to escape such a disgusting fate, and instead just steal your money JFL.

The fact that you don't consider this, is proof that you are lying to yourself about how undesirable you are, and lying to yourself about your part in the arrangement.

The problem with you guys is that you lie to yourself, you aren't honest with yourself about your "part in that deal" so you don't think things through AS YOU SHOULD FOR A MAN IN YOUR POSITION.

YOU

ARE
A FUCKING
PREDATOR

Since you refuse to accept that, and you want to see yourself as a "likable", "kind" or "moral" person that is just struggling with the "unfairness of the dating world", YOU GET SCAMMED.

So sorry, but you have no one to blame but yourself for getting scammed in these scenarios, you got scammed because you are an egotistical self deceiving piece of shit, who wants to have it both ways and play both sides, who wants to think of themself as the "nice guy" while taking advantage of the fact that a woman had a terrible upbringing and is low on cash, so you can stick your cock down her throat (my what a "nice guy" you are taking advantage of the fact that this woman has to fuck men that disgust her for money :feelskek:).

I hope anyone reading realizes that:
I AM NOT MAKING ANY MORAL ARGUMENTS OR TAKING A MORAL STANCE

I'm all for doing what I just described, in fact I plan on doing it, exploit away lol. This world is not a fair world so trying to play by the rules is nothing but a self imposed handicap. However don't fall under the delusion of thinking of yourself as "a good person", and then complain about the inevitable end result of you being exploited due to this delusion.

You are the one that created the blind spot (weakness) by lying to yourself.

You can't want blissful ignorance whilst taking advantage of someones shortcomings to your benefit (and not expect them to see you as an "easy mark"). You may not be aware of your exploitation of them, but THEY ARE and they will make you pay for it in the end if you aren't planning ahead and structuring your life so they can't.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY SO MANY MEN WANT TO PAY FOR THE "GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE"

I only just realized this just now while writing this up.

It doesn't have anything to do with intimacy or "wanting to feel loved", it has to do with GUILT and EGO, the girlfriend experience exists so that men who pay for sex can delude themselves into thinking that the experience is "mutual" and you are "both enjoying yourselves a bit", and this "purchase" can only be enjoyed by someone who is dishonest, because nobody who is honest with themselves (and self aware) could ever fall under such a delusion, knowing full well she wouldn't even be talking to you unless you paid her to begin with.

I just know there are a lot of guys fuming right now (lol) who say all kinda shit like - "We both had fun, we went out for drinks first", "you're wrong, she was laughing, we both had a good time and that made the sex better", etc.

You really think that someone who is used to faking orgasms and sexual pleasure can't fake a smile and a few laughs?, can't fake being entertained?, she's probably thinking about her boyfriend while she has sex with you, stop coping, you literally paid extra for a lie.



IN CONCLUSION:
Let me make this simple for you, If you are going to be a guy who leverages his resources (money, nationality, etc) to exploit women for sex (and yes, that is what you are doing as a man who pays an escort, or a prostitute, or a mail order bride, or a gold digger, etc).

THEN
FUCKING
BE
"THAT GUY"


(AND STOP PRETENDING YOU AREN'T "THAT GUY", YOU KNOW FULL WELL YOU AREN'T "NICE", LIFE HAD ALREADY STRIPPED THAT TRAIT FROM YOU LONG AGO)


ACCEPT IT

OWN IT

LOVE IT


Learn to enjoy it, because you aren't doing yourself any favors with your current strategy of self deception.

A predator that doesn't admit that its a predator, won't think or act as a predator, which just makes it an incompetent predator that always makes mistakes, in other words, somebody else's prey. If you won't accept what you are, then that's the fate you have decided for yourself, a life of being played for a fool and exploited by others (especially women).

So long as you are playing fucking mental gymnastics with yourself trying to "feel like a good person", while trying to exploit women for sex, you are only just handicapping yourself because you are just half assing your "role". You'll keep making mistakes, you'll keep getting scammed, and these problems won't end with just women and sex, you'll have the same kind of problems in other aspects of your life, because you are stepping into the ring completely unaware of your surroundings and how seriously you should be taking the situation.
Just do graphics instead of words or no body will read that amount of text
 
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Honeypot said:
Just do graphics instead of words or no body will read that amount of text

Some people have, and I don't really care about the responses of those that wouldn't

If the topic doesn't interest you enough to read it, in the same way that it interested me enough to write it (which took way more time), then you wouldn't have anything of real significance to say about it either
 
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BlkPillPres said:
Some people have, and I don't really care about the responses of those that wouldn't

If the topic doesn't interest you enough to read it, in the same way that it interested me enough to write it (which took way more time), then you wouldn't have anything of real significance to say about it either
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Didn't read everything yet but I think the predators are the women who are profiting off our suffering
 
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You are a monster and I agree with every word you wrote, people here need to accept they are horrible evil people on the inside and live the way they are meant to. There is literally no reason why you shouldnt lie / cheat / abuse / exploit other people to your heart's content, this society wants you dead and suffering anyway.
 
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BlkPillPres said:
That escort you paid for online and she didn't show up. You know full well no woman wants to fuck your ugly ass lol, that's why you are paying, so why are you pretending that this isn't basically a "hostile negotiation".

No woman wants your dick near them but for some reason you thought you could just pay for it online like ordering something from Amazon, risk free, without any woman trying to just take your money and run?

If someone was paying you $300 to do something that disgusts you to your core and is illegal, and you know full well they could never retaliate if you just took the money, wouldn't you consider just taking the money and not doing it too?
This is why you never pay disgusting whores first. Whores who steal non chad's money should be imprisoned for life or executed.
 
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AnEmptyInkWell said:
I agree with every word you wrote, people here need to accept they are horrible evil people on the inside and live the way they are meant to. There is literally no reason why you shouldnt lie / cheat / abuse / exploit other people to your heart's content, this society wants you dead and suffering anyway.
Exactly, the way I look at it, we were all born with a handicap on our looks, some of us like myself were born into poor families meaning we have even more handicaps with respect to financial opportunities, education, employment, etc.

With all these handicaps waying down on you, pushing you into a deeper and deeper hole each day

You have to be an idiot to then now handicap yourself with conventional morality and modern day social norms and values, its completely illogical, you might as well just kill yourself now at that point, your life will go nowhere

As low tier males we have to take every advantage we can get

Abandon your ego

Abandon morality

Accept nihilism (the black pill) as the only truth

It is only then that you even have a chance of creating a new life for yourself, and escaping the shackles you were born into

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You are a monster
I'm not a monster...... I'm just head of the curve :feelsthink:
 
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BlkPillPres said:
A woman in this situation is literally only fucking you because she has no choice. Going into it you know full well most of these women come from abusive homes, have been sexually assaulted since childhood, many have been raped as a child or teen (and are still raped to this day), many are working for a pimp out of fear, etc.
I don't feel sorry for those whores. Nothing is worse than inceldom, and they see no problems voting for more cuckesd laws and using our taxes to enslave us, so fuck those whores. Most of them have plenty of choices to not sell their used pussies, but they want the fast and easy money to buy expensive nonsense.
 
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Robtical said:
This is why you never pay disgusting whores first.
I think we should more look at it as be self aware of your role in every interaction, if we had to list all the small rules involved when it comes to paying for sex, nobody would remember or know anything, but if you simplify it as "accept that you are the predator in this interaction and you are trying to exploit someone by leveraging your resources" and now what you should do from there and the precautions you should take become obvious

For example, nobody had to tell me not to walk into an area to fuck whores with my wallet, it was common sense to come with only a bit of cash that I expected to be the usual rate

If I get robbed at gun point I can just hand it all over and leave (all my credit cards, phone, etc is safe at home), not only that I'm less of a target without a fat wallet bulging in my pocket

When you gain awareness of your "status" as a predator with relation to women, you can now act in accordance as someone who is competent in their life choices (with relation to women and sex)

Every other guy lying to themselves, is setting themselves up for failure

Robtical said:
I don't feel sorry for those whores. Nothing is worse than inceldom, and they see no problems voting for more cuckesd laws and using our taxes to enslave us, so fuck those whores. Most of them have plenty of choices to not sell their used pussies, but they want the fast and easy money to buy expensive nonsense.
I don't feel sorry for them either, I'm just explaining the reality of the situation so that men can stop coping and trying to " mentally distance themselves" from the part they play in that cycle of exploitation, and there are obviously things worse than inceldom lol, like come on dude, I can't believe you said that, you wouldn't swap lives with a boy sex slave now would you?

I just want incels to start "accepting who they are" and stop wasting time

Things could definitely be worse, heck I could have been born as someone with mental defects, with no hopes of ever wealthmaxxing and learning anything I'm learning to do right now, now that is a fucked up and sad fate

Its one thing to have a shitty life, its another to wake up everyday and know you are stuck in it, I would have killed myself already if I ever thought that "this is it"
 
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BlkPillPres said:
So you can either accept that you are a predator and demand/take what you paid for, or keep coping, keep lying to yourself, and get robbed like a pathetic cuck so you can cling to your ego.
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I think we should more look at it as be self aware of your role in every interaction, if we had to list all the small rules involved when it comes to paying for sex, nobody would remember or know anything, but if you simplify it as "accept that you are the predator in this interaction and you are trying to exploit someone by leveraging your resources" and now what you should do from there and the precautions you should take become obvious

For example, nobody had to tell me not to walk into an area to fuck whores with my wallet, it was common sense to come with only a bit of cash I that expected to be the usual rate

If I get robbed at gun point I can just hand it all over and leave (all my credit cards, phone, etc is safe at home), not only that I'm less of a target without a fat wallet bulging in my pocket

When you gain awareness of your "status" as a predator with relation to women, you can now act in accordance as someone who is competent in their life choices (with relation to women and sex)

Every other guy lying to themselves, is setting themselves up for failure
I'll let the whore know that I understand she sees me as a predator, and I'm using my money to get her pussy, and I will knock her out if she tries to take my money. In my view she is the predator using her artificially inflated SMV given to her by soyciety to try and scam incels out the money they worked hard for.
 
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OP is a MORALFAG who cares about MUH POOR OPPRESSED SEX WORKERS..

fuck you
 
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BlkPillPres said:
You are just saying that because you don't have to lol, I don't think you are really mentally placing yourself in that experience


JFL how can you ask a question like this?, are you saying gangs have no power in first world countries?

The more developed the country, the more dangerous and powerful the criminal organizations are


That's not always the case, especially if you go to different countries, if you are a rich man in new york, and you choose to fuck whores in new york, you are an idiot, you could go to eastern europe and get better quality for hundreds less. I think you are assuming all men just take shitty deals, or fuck "high end escorts"

I think a lot of women who are escorts are doing it by choice, but prostitutes are usually not doing it by choice
Wait but isn’t prostitution a service.

she gives u something and u give her money. Isn’t that what’s agreed upon?

u try to make it seem like a blackpill but there is no blackpill.

You pay for the service.
 
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AnEmptyInkWell said:
You are a monster and I agree with every word you wrote, people here need to accept they are horrible evil people on the inside and live the way they are meant to. There is literally no reason why you shouldnt lie / cheat / abuse / exploit other people to your heart's content, this society wants you dead and suffering anyway.
Here's what I don't understand:

While everyone is guilty of those things (lying ,cheating, exploitation), why is it that when someone is guilty of these things and it is a known fact, people tend to stay away or brand them as "bad"?

If you know a guy/girl is a liar and exploiter, you'd naturally want to get the fuck away from them even though you may have that in common with them.

Why is this?

There is always a threshold, a line that people will not cross. Everyone has morals. Everybody.

There is a point where you will say "I'm not doing that."
 
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Cafecel said:
Wait but isn’t prostitution a service.

Does something being a service mean its not exploitation?

Are workers never exploited because they are being payed to "carry out a service"?

I don't get your point here

The reason why workers unions are a thing, is because people who carry out services can be exploited by the owners of the service, and the "customers" can also be complicit in that exploitation

Also I'll say it again, in case you missed it, some women were forced into prostitution, so I don't see how saying "its a service" has anything to do with it being exploitation, they aren't mutually exclusive.
 
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OverBeforeItBegan said:
I really don't understand how a gang could have power over a woman in a first world country, especially western Europe or the US. Some shithole in Asia, sure, but explain to me how going to the police wouldn't solve that issue.

No offense but you don't go out much do you? Gangs are quite prevalent even in the mid western states, which are the most chill parts of the US. Pimps, meth dealers, armed robbers, home invaders and the like are common and are on the news daily. We have over a million people in our prison system and the cops can't catch everyone, obviously there will be serious gangs with power in the US. Not to mention there is a porous border with a literal 3rd world narco state neighboring the US.
 
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AnEmptyInkWell said:
No offense but you don't go out much do you? Gangs are quite prevalent even in the mid western states, which are the most chill parts of the US. Pimps, meth dealers, armed robbers, home invaders and the like are common and are on the news daily. We have over a million people in our prison system and the cops can't catch everyone, obviously there will be serious gangs with power in the US. Not to mention there is a porous border with a literal 3rd world narco state neighboring the US.

I'm still shocked that this guy was literally confused by the idea of a gang in Europe or USA having power over women, how amazing (or sheltered) is your life that something like this is inconcievable to you.
 
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Most people work in jobs they don't like because they didn't have enough conscientiousness/IQ/psychopathy/connections/luck/looks to get the jobs they really wanted. Also because they are traumatized by their pasts as well (which breaks motivation, confidence, etc). And such desirable jobs have a limited number of people who can do them anyway.

Prostitutes are not a special class of broken people getting exploited, the entire society is based on psychopaths predating on empaths in general, like Atavistic Autist @Atavistic Autist often talks about.
 
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The funny thing is, America is a nation of predators! Or at least we benefit from the activities of predators.

For example. The rising standards of living of the 1950s came from the exploitation of central and south America as well as Asia...

Cheap labor cheap stuff for us to buy.

We think we are "liberating" them to help them? Nah! Slave labor.

Just like illegal Spanish fruit pickers and agricultural workers.

Yup. Otherwise America would just be another 3rd world country.

Great article bippy!

(Too bad I'll never get to read any of your "pro-violence" stuff... UNLESS YOU GET OFF YER ASS AND WRITE A BOOK AND SELL IT FOR CRYPTO!)
 
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