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Serious Thought Experiment For "Anti-Escortcels" Who Think Whores Are Simply "Being Paid To Do Be A Woman (Do Nothing/No Effort)" And Say "Sex Should Be Free"

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First off sex has never and will never be free (check this thread out before or after reading this one, order doesn't matter, topics are specific so they can function independently):



Now to focus on the matter at hand

There is obviously effort involved in letting someone fuck you, you just aren't thinking about the act from an outside looking in perspective (because then you'd take into account the perspective of the person being fucked)

You think its easy to take dick while not aroused and not attracted to the person fucking you? (seriously think about that)

Try jerking off with a death grip while watching or thinking of something unarousing to you, now ask yourself if you would let someone make you experience this for and hour or more, WITHOUT PAYING YOU, and to top it off they want you to be enthusiastic and energetic, and just fight through the pain, disgust and discomfort, as if they are special to you when they are just your next customer

You have to really lack self awareness to not understand why whores charge for sex, and why it does take effort to do it

If you don't understand why, then you clearly have put no thought into this, no thought into the perspective of the person being fucked, and hopefully you will after you've finished this thread and stop deluding yourself about reality

The next time you think - "she should be doing this for free" or "she should be fucking me like she's enjoying it"

Please understand how ridiculous that is, its like expecting a chef at a restaurant to treat you like your mother, walk over and kiss you on the cheek and tell you "dinners ready" with a happy/peppy tone when the food is finished, and also expect no money for the meal or service :feelskek:



JFL seriously you have to basically be an NPC to not understand this, someone who doesn't put thought into anything at all

You are literally asking someone to do something they clearly don't want to do, and its something that is very intimate and personal to top it off

You seriously expecting someone to have your cock in their mouth, tasting dick, and to just treat it like they are giving you directions to a place or something? JFL, like its this nonchalant effortless thing they should be glad to do for you, because of course you are this amazing magical person, so why shouldn't they

On that note I also think this mindset is an indicator that the person is an egoist, only an egoist would think having to do something like this is "no big deal", as if they are so desirable that a woman should just "be alright" with doing it

I know I'm not a looker, I know I'm nothing special, and I know I'm just paying for a service, so I'm not going in there expecting to be treated like a king and nor should anyone, if you want that treatment then you have to go to places/outlets where you can exploit women who are disenfranchised

Go to poor places in SEA or EE, then demand your king treatment, because with the money you have, you are basically a king there, but don't go to your random whore where you live and expect to get treated well, that's just unrealistic



Lets not forget that many whores are beholden to a pimp, they have quotas, the more money they can get out of you the better, the less effort they can exert fucking you, the less tired and "worn out" they'll be and the more men they can fuck to get more money

You see body parts get sore when they are in constant use (common sense), a woman doing hand jobs all day is going to have tired hands, taking it in the ass all day is going to leave your ass sore, same for your vagina

You have to be objective about this and understand that these women are monetizing their body parts, and there are maintenance costs and they have to take into account the longevity and "durability" of these parts

This is why a lot of whores refuse to fuck black guys (they assume they are well hung) and guys who are well hung when they see their size, because they have to exert more effort, and get more wear and tear to their "goods" for the same money they'd get from a guy with 4 inches who would cum in like 5 minutes because he never gets to fuck at all. A guy with 9 inches could wreck a whores asshole and leave her unable to do anal the next day, that means she loses customers, so she loses money

Its a business, you are a customer, stop being deluded
 
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You are literally asking someone to do something they clearly don't want to do, and its something that is very intimate and personal to top it off

I always thought yo udo not care. A female has only one purpose, who cares if she does not like it?

You seriously expecting someone to have your cock in their mouth, tasting dick, and to just treat it like they are giving you directions to a place or something? JFL, like its this nonchalant effortless thing they should be glad to do for you, because of course you are this amazing magical person, so why shouldn't they

She should be glad actually. She should be glad that I do not break her fucking neck.

Its a business, you are a customer, stop being deluded

Having a hole between your legs is not a business and it is not a job either.
 
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Having a hole between your legs is not a business and it is not a job either.

Having something other people want and selling it, is a business, whether you want it to be or not

By your logic modelling isn't a business, and all models do is have good looks that they were born with, no different than being born with a hole between your legs

You are conflating "business" with "effort was required to attain this", you are ironically speaking as if you believe in the just world fallacy, a business is someone selling a skill and/or service, some skills/services don't require great effort to attain or sell, that's the nature of reality, it isn't fair
 
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Anyone denying this is dumb, no argument about that.

However, the issue with almost everyone here is the method of "payment". For us, it's money, nothing else we can provide other than money. Now take Chads for example, they don't even have to approach the whores, the whores will come to them but does that mean the foids aren't getting paid? No, they are simply getting paid by being with Chad, a whore walking with Chad is his method of payment, he allows her to walk with him, therefore he gets access to her holes.

You seriously expecting someone to have your cock in their mouth, tasting dick, and to just treat it like they are giving you directions to a place or something? JFL, like its this nonchalant effortless thing they should be glad to do for you, because of course you are this amazing magical person, so why shouldn't they

A stinky Chad, with smegma-covered dick would have his dick sucked and licked, passionately, simply for being Chad. Hygiene does NOT matter if it's Chad we're talking about.
 
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I get "all incels feel entitled to sex" is an ages-old incelphobic canard, but you can't deny that this community is rife with hypocrisy and entitlement issues, the general anti-escort sentiment being one of several examples.
 
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I don't care about escorts, I wish I was attractive enough so that a girl would want to have sex with me just for the fun of it.
 
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However, the issue with almost everyone here is the method of "payment"

There is no issue, you aren't Chad, so you don't get to pay like Chad does, end of story, just like you aren't a famous person so you don't get free entry into events that could benefit from the status you have and make the event more well known for having "X celebrity" attending

Celebrity's get free entry into clubs all the time, because just having them their increases revenue and status, we have to be realistic about this

A stinky Chad, with smegma-covered dick would have his dick sucked and licked, passionately, simply for being Chad. Hygiene does NOT matter if it's Chad we're talking about.

I never said anything about hygiene, a washed dick still tastes like dick I'm sure

Just like under your arms still has a certain smell even after showering, you can smell it faintly under the soap smell, your body parts have certain smells, especially your sex organs (and smell implies taste obviously)

Also don't forget where I said:
because of course you are this amazing magical person, so why shouldn't they

My point was literally that you aren't Chad so its ridiculous to expect Chad treatment, why don't people apply this idiot logic to money, its like expecting VIP treatment at a club when you are just a random guy, would you just waltz into a VIP section at a club and expect the bouncer to let you through and a waiter bring a bottle of expensive alcohol? (I doubt it)
 
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Having something other people want and selling it, is a business, whether you want it to be or not

No, she has just a hole between her legs. She has no significant job to do. Why should I give her money for that? She should give me money so I do not break her fucking neck.

By your logic modelling isn't a business, and all models do is have good looks that they were born with, no different than being born with a hole between your legs

I would rather call it scam to be honest. But in the end, it does not matter. What matter is, why are you so defensive when it comes to whores? They are just whores. Why do you care?

that's the nature of reality, it isn't fair

That is not the nature of reality. The nature of reality is that I could easily break her neck.
 
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I would rather call it scam to be honest. But in the end, it does not matter. What matter is, why are you so defensive when it comes to whores? They are just whores. Why do you care?

1. Its not about what you would rather, its about what actually is true, don't try to deflect from the argument, you are either right or wrong, you can't just skip past this with a "well it doesn't matter"

2. I'm not defensive of whores, I hate seeing illogical things, especially arguments, and this is one that is being spread and said over and over, and I'm addressing it fervently as I do with any other topic, when that nofap idiot (can't remember the user he's known for it on this site) was always spreading this nofap BS and made many threads against NoFap
 
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While sex has never been free, men are much more willing to provide for a loving wife and kids.
 
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While sex has never been free, men are much more willing to provide for a loving wife and kids.
Yes. Chad is so used to having access to many girls, being able to be picky etc that a single girl often bores him.

But the average guy would be in heaven if he was guaranteed a non-ugly, loyal girl. He would go out and happily wage slave every day if he knew a loving partner would be waiting for him at home at the end of the day.
 
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Lol another escortceling thread...:feelsugh:
I escortcel at times but i wont glorify it.
honestly, escortceling is only really worth it when you actually have buying power into.

For a white western with money, escortceling in Pattaya must be great tbh.

I'm still planning a trip to Sosua one of these days
 
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Yes. Chad is so used to having access to many girls, being able to be picky etc that a single girl often bores him.

But the average guy would be in heaven if he was guaranteed a non-ugly, loyal girl. He would go out and happily wage slave every day if he knew a loving partner would be waiting for him at home at the end of the day.
This is why men would go fight in wars without hesitation. They actually had something to fight for. Being romantic and kind actually paid off back then.
 
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There is no issue, you aren't Chad, so you don't get to pay like Chad does, end of story, just like you aren't a famous person so you don't get free entry into events that could benefit from the status you have and make the event more well known for having "X celebrity" attending

I know I'm not, I was just stating the obvious, that even Chads are paying the foids, in a way. Your event example is an excellent point that proves our theory.

I never said anything about hygiene, a washed dick still tastes like dick I'm sure

Just like under your arms still has a certain smell even after showering, you can smell it faintly under the soap smell, your body parts have certain smells, especially your sex organs (and smell implies taste obviously)

My point was a response to your point about them sucking dick like it's nothing, all I meant was that they could be disgusted sucking a perfectly existing dick because of the person its attached to and they could be having the time of their lives sucking a filthy dick attached to a filthy person simply because of how they look.
 
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This is why men would go fight in wars without hesitation. They actually had something to fight for. Being romantic and kind actually paid off back then.
It's also why men have been falling out in every facet of society these days. It's just not worth it.
 
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I'd like to add that whores will sometimes do some actual work on you. They won't necessarily just lay down.

The first few times I payed for sex, I couldn't finish. I got soft after a few minutes of thrusting.

That's where the work of the prostitutes comes in. Two girls eventually made me cum : one in her mouth, and one in her hand. The former had impressive head skills, the latter was just kind enough to work at it vigorously (she gave me one of my most intense orgasms ever).

It's definitely an active service, something that I am very grateful for and totally worth the money because they would never had done this to me otherwise.

It's just as much worth paying for as say, a massage or a hair cut.
 
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Before i rope i have to try escortceling.. and before that i try to get in shape for not feeling like a total subhuman... then i can say "at least i tried"
 
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1. Its not about what you would rather, its about what actually is true

The definition game. It is a business, it is scam... If you really want to call it rather a business than a scam. Ok... I will go along with it.

don't try to deflect from the argument, you are either right or wrong, you can't just skip past this with a "well it doesn't matter"

When a female is allowed to create a business with her cunt alone, I should be allowed (or men in general) to create a business about our bodies as well. Since men are superior to females when it comes to raw strength, females should pay us, so we spare their lives. You talked about nature of reality and this is the nature of reality as well, yet it is not applied.
I will agree on that part, that yes, this is not fair at all.

2. I'm not defensive of whores

Just be honest. You do care and this is why you keep posting such elaborated threads about it. Otherwise you would not do it.

I hate seeing illogical things, especially arguments

What exactly?

when that nofap idiot (can't remember the user he's known for it on this site) was always spreading this nofap BS and made many threads against NoFap

Why exactly do you call it bullshit? Do you have hyperlink to it? What did he claim?
 
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Important thing is communication. If you need affection make sure to include that in the negotiation. It's a service for a fee nothing more nothing less. If you say you want sex, you get sex. If you say you want the girlsfriend experience and are willing to pay for it, that's what you should get. The girlfriend experience is something you can purchase, but obviously, it won't come cheap! You are entitled to nothing.
 
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Why exactly do you call it bullshit? Do you have hyperlink to it? What did he claim?

1. To see why I call it bullshit, just look up any of my NoFap threads using the search feature on the site:

This one is the one where I argue why its really BS though:

I made many threads about it, because the kind of BS arguments that were being spread were annoying to me

2. I don't want to quote this guys name and bring him back, it seems like he just browses these days JFL, maybe he got banned, but I don't want him to come back because it was so annoying, I quoted his name before in some of those threads so you'll know who I'm talking about

Work...? Men are working hard in low-level jobs...

"Work" is subjective, the people of the past always see the younger generations as lazy because they are always doing "less work"

What we call work today is a simple and menial task to the men of the past who did not have the machinery and technology we do
 
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Work...? Men are working hard in low-level jobs...
What they do is still a service worth paying. Again, like a massage or a haircut.

I'm not saying what they do require tremendous skill.

That being said, now that I think about it, I have to admit that we pay them mostly because of what they are. If they were ugly I would not pay them anything no matter what they'd be willing to do.

And that is different from a hairdresser, so I stand corrected.
 
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What they do is still a service worth paying. Again, like a massage or a haircut.

Is it really worth it? How much did you pay for it though?
 
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I agree with OP. Sex is never free. You pay for it with inherent genetic value or monetary. Of course genetic value is scarce and hence much more in demand and monetary value is relatively plentiful and not so much in demand. So paying for sex with your inherent genetic value (if you have any that is) must be the preferred choice and monetary value in case youre ugly.

Personally i think escorts are a great cope. The best thing i like about it is the power of choice. I have little to no choice in mate selection while chad/foids have plenty. Imagine the feeling of having many hot foids in your tinder match list and then picking the best one. I know i will never experience this in my life. The closest thing i can experience is browsing through many GL escort foid's pics and picking the one i prefer the most.
 
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I'm not saying what they do require tremendous skill.

Like I told @LastGerman before, he is conflating skill/service with effort, as if he believes in a just world, not all tasks require effort or great skill and yet they require payment still
Is it really worth it? How much did you pay for it though?

One guy paying exorbitant fee's doesn't make the entire practice not worth it, so whats the point of this question, I've spoken to some men on forums that go to EE (easetern europe) and have said they can get sex at a rate of $30 and hour and not lazy sex either, so just because one guy gets a bad price doesn't mean you can't go somewhere to get a good price
 
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You seriously expecting someone to have your cock in their mouth, tasting dick, and to just treat it like they are giving you directions to a place or something? JFL, like its this nonchalant effortless thing they should be glad to do for you, because of course you are this amazing magical person, so why shouldn't they

On that note I also think this mindset is an indicator that the person is an egoist, only an egoist would think having to do something like this is "no big deal", as if they are so desirable that a woman should just "be alright" with doing it
I expect my looksmatch to suck my dick as effortlessly as I'd lick her pussy. Sex is not a big deal as long as you're around their looksmatch. I can understand that it should cost money to get a blowjob from a foid over 2 points above your looksmatch.
 
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Is it really worth it? How much did you pay for it though?
I went with lots of girls. I gave lots of of money to the most beautiful ones because I wanted to spend time with them, even just cuddling and talking. With others it was very quick and thus cheap.

During my first trip I spent a bit more than a thousand euros, I can't recall how much exactly.

I don't regret it. I think there are more stupid ways to waste that kind of money. It had to be done at the time, and I'm glad I did.
 
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Like I told @LastGerman before, he is conflating skill/service with effort, as if he believes in a just world, not all tasks require effort or great skill and yet they require payment still

It is about who is doing the actual work. A whore neither have skill or effort and the service is not worth it. A man who is a plumber for example is maintaining the whole system by his good work, yet a whore is paid better than him. Yes, this is not fair... And this problem should be addressed in the general public but unfortunately this will not happen at all.
To make it clear: Getting a haircut is more significant than a whore. Do not get me wrong, I know what you mean and I get your point.
 
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I expect my looksmatch to suck my dick as effortlessly as I'd lick her pussy.
I don't want to fuck my looksmatch. I don't believe in this concept. Women are selected for their beauty, not men.
 
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I expect my looksmatch to suck my dick as effortlessly as I'd lick her pussy. Sex is not a big deal as long as you're around their looksmatch. I can understand that it should cost money to get a blowjob from a foid over 2 points above your looksmatch.

There's a lot more physical strain and "damage" taking place in women's sexual roles (submissive role) than a man's role, its a lot different to have your body acted upon than to act upon someones body

You used an example of a "lighter act", and even in that act, it isn't something "effortless", again I notice a lot of you guys aren't actually thinking about these things, you aren't thinking about whats involved in the process, there is a level of skill involved, all you really need to know to eat pussy good is know where the clitoris is, a woman has to learn "timing" to suck dick, be aware of where her teeth are and don't make a mistake and bite, not trigger her gag reflex and shoving something that size into your mouth and near your throat over and over will very easily trigger it, etc

Seriously just put a finger down your throat and see how "effortless" that is, now do that over and over for like 20 minutes straight JFL, imagine the length and width of that finger increased significantly and think of how much more annoying that would be, like come on, sex is not an easy task for the submissive, women just like doing it for Chad, but the process itself requires patience and effort, they just aren't willing to be patient and show that kind of effort for a man they aren't attracted to

Again and that's for a lighter act, think about anal, you think anal is "effortless" for a woman just because you are her looksmatch, you aren't thinking about the "mechanics" of these sex acts, and that's why you see it as "effortless", you are thinking about it from your perspective only, with you as the person fucking, of course its a great and effortless experience from that point of you, you just stick your dick in a hole and thrust and enjoy the ride

Have you ever taken a shit before (rhetorical question, obviously yes), now imagine taking a shit, over and over, and the shit is rigid and firm, and that shit doesn't stop for 20 minutes +, you think that's an "effortless" experience

Sex is not effortless on the part of the person being fucked, its an annoying experience that requires you to "endure", I would never want to be a woman
 
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If you do this tell us everything

I will not do it.

"Work" is subjective, the people of the past always see the younger generations as lazy because they are always going "less work"

Men are doing the actual work. They are responsible to maintain the system. Men are plumber, men are working in construction, men are doing the actual physical work.
This is not ''subjetive'', it is the nature of reality.
 
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A man who is a plumber for example is maintaining the whole system by his good work, yet a whore is paid better than him. Yes, this is not fair... And this problem should be addressed in the general public but unfortunately this will not happen at all.

Prostitution still is, IMHO, the most civilized way to deal with male sexual frustration. Even in a traditional, patriarchal society there would be men that can't get married, and thus can't have consensual sex. That's why prostitution has existed probably ever since money was invented.

There are plenty of jobs that are paid much more than one could think is morally reasonable. Like luxury or entertainment. Economics is weird like that, in a way. Just get over it.
 
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I get "all incels feel entitled to sex" is an ages-old incelphobic canard, but you can't deny that this community is rife with hypocrisy and entitlement issues, the general anti-escort sentiment being one of several examples.

This tbh. Not going to waste my breath on this anymore.
Prostitution still is, IMHO, the most civilized way to deal with male sexual frustration. Even in a traditional, patriarchal society there would be men that can't get married, and thus can't have consensual sex. That's why prostitution has existed probably ever since money was invented.

There are plenty of jobs that are paid much more than one could think is morally reasonable. Like luxury or entertainment. Economics is weird like that, in a way. Just get over it.
 
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I went with lots of girls. I gave lots of of money to the most beautiful ones because I wanted to spend time with them, even just cuddling and talking. With others it was very quick and thus cheap.

During my first trip I spent a bit more than a thousand euros, I can't recall how much exactly.

Ok, this is not worth it and maintainable at all. You have to be rich to afford such thing. By the way, back then my monthly income were about 1000 Euro. So, I had to work more than a month for this... Why is this accepted?
By the way, I worked 38 hours a week, 2 shifts the same day for 1000 Euro while some whore is doing this money in less than a week for just having a cunt. I cannot comprehend it...
 
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I get "all incels feel entitled to sex" is an ages-old incelphobic canard, but you can't deny that this community is rife with hypocrisy and entitlement issues, the general anti-escort sentiment being one of several examples.

So true

Also never even heard of the word "canard" till now, will try and remember it
 
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Prostitution still is, IMHO, the most civilized way to deal with male sexual frustration. Even in a traditional, patriarchal society there would be men that can't get married, and thus can't have consensual sex. That's why prostitution has existed probably ever since money was invented.
I agree, probably the best way to put it tbh.
 
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Ok, this is not worth it and maintainable at all. You have to be rich to afford such thing.

No, you don't. I could afford all that while working as a dishwasher in UK. I just saved money during something like six months, IIRC. Or a year, I can't recall. In any case, I definitely wasn't rich, by any common acceptation of the term.
 
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"BUT BUT ... she won't treat me & desire me just like she does Chad... It's not validating... Just for sex alone"...

Yeah fuckers... JUST pay a bit extra for role play aka GFE ... That's all... Or go to provider who does.

Oh yeah... Fight better for better Anti STI & contraceptives coming into play... So bareback can be unlocked after destroying criminalization of prostitution.

Trust me... Beckies, Stacies & Landwhales etc will want to go ER on us if that comes into play...
 
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Prostitution still is, IMHO, the most civilized way to deal with male sexual frustration.

Everything what is called ''civilized'' is weak today, unfortunately.

Even in a traditional, patriarchal society there would be men that can't get married, and thus can't have consensual sex.

Which is bad on one ahnd but on the other hand, the system back than was not that sexualized (at least not that much). I would prefer such situation of this current situation.

That's why prostitution has existed probably ever since money was invented.

There was one thing before that: Real manpower
This manpower created everything and females should bow before it.

There are plenty of jobs that are paid much more than one could think is morally reasonable. Like luxury or entertainment. Economics is weird like that, in a way. Just get over it.

Although that is true, this is nothing but whataboutism.

No, you don't. I could afford all that while working as a dishwasher in UK. I just saved money during something like six months, IIRC. Or a year, I can't recall.

So, you just have to work 6 months to 1 whole year straight within a low-level job to afford such thing... Like I said, not worth it.

Yeah fuckers... JUST pay a bit extra for role play aka GFE ... That's all... Or go to provider who does.

Just waste all your money in one night brah.
 
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I get "all incels feel entitled to sex" is an ages-old incelphobic canard, but you can't deny that this community is rife with hypocrisy and entitlement issues, the general anti-escort sentiment being one of several examples.
 
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sex is not an easy task for the submissive, women just like doing it for Chad, but the process itself requires patience and effort, they just aren't willing to be patient and show that kind of effort for a man they aren't attracted to
Have you ever taken a shit before (rhetorical question, obviously less), now imagine taking a shit, over and over, and the shit is rigid and firm, and that shit doesn't stop for 20 minutes +, you think that's an "effortless" experience

Sex is not effortless on the part of the person being fucked, its an annoying experience that requires you to "endure", I would never want to be a woman
If they can do it for a chad for free and "endure" it, then I expect my looksmatch to also endure it for me for free since she's used to doing it. Foids are built for fucking, so it doesn't take a lot of effort from them.
I don't want to fuck my looksmatch. I don't believe in this concept. Women are selected for their beauty, not men.
Your "looksmatch" based on the attractiveness percentile of all foids. So if you're a man in the 60 percentile of smv, then your looksmatch is a foid in the 60 percentile of attractiveness.
 
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By the way, I worked 38 hours a week, 2 shifts the same day for 1000 Euro while some whore is doing this money in less than a week for just having a cunt. I cannot comprehend it...

Some people don't have to work and their parents wire them 40,000 euros a month so they can stuff their own wardrobes with Louis Vuitton and Gucci.

Life sucks.
 
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Just waste all your money in one night brah.

If its something you just want to experience once in your miserable life before you die, how is it a waste?

Is dying a virgin and never experiencing sex a better choice? (I don't see how), you act like he's saying to do this over and over, and just be broke, eating packs of ramen noodles for breakfast, lunch and dinner to afford doing it more often

I say splurge a little if you only just want to experience sex, but I don't just want to experience sex, I want a "sex life", which is why I'm going the other route (SEA or EE) as opposed to @grondilu "high end experience" route, I may try his path maybe once to experience it at some point
 
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Lets not forget that many whores are beholden to a pimp, they have quotas, the more money they can get out of you the better, the less effort they can exert fucking you, the less tired and "worn out" they'll be and the more men they can fuck to get more money

This is why I'd rather fork out a bit more money for an expensive independent whore lol, the idea that some Tyrone or Sergei could barge in during sex is just mildly distasteful.

High IQ post, by the way.
 
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Some people don't have to work and their parents wire them 40,000 euros a month so they can stuff their own wardrobes with Louis Vuitton and Gucci.

They mogg me brutally.

If its something you just want to experience once in your miserable life before you die, how is it a waste?

The question is, do I really want to experience it like this? I would have to work one year straight to afford such thing... I cannot comprehend it, seriously. When I only think about this, this shit makes me literally angry and my whole body becomes warm.
 
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If they can do it for a chad for free and "endure" it, then I expect my looksmatch to also endure it for me for free since she's used to doing it. Foids are built for fucking, so it doesn't take a lot of effort from them.

1. Sex is not free, it never has been and it never will be, stop it with this BS lie, I addressed this as the first thing in my thread because this is the fall back argument for idiots who don't want to admit to the nature of what sex is

2. I'm pretty sure you would put a lot more effort into fucking someone you are attracted to than with someone you aren't attracted too, saying "Chad gets X treatment" is as stupid as saying "Celebrities get X treatment"

"OMG why did the club bouncer let Jay Z into the club without paying but deny me entry even when I'm willing to pay, I should get the same treatment as this person who is worth more than me"

Retard logic

3. Men are built for physical labor and combat, so by that logic hard labor and fighting doesn't take a lot of effort from them

You aren't looking at these things from an outside looking in perspective, you aren't thinking at all
 
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I don’t think anyone is saying to just force them to give it for free. I think what a lot of people want when they seek a free service is a government subsidized system.
 
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The question is, do I really want to experience it like this? I would have to work one year straight to afford such thing... I cannot comprehend it, seriously. When I only think about this, this shit makes me literally angry and my whole body becomes warm.

Well you could just rape you know, you already have the violent mindset required JFL

She should be glad that I do not break her fucking neck.



I don’t think anyone is saying to just force them to give it for free. I think what a lot of people want when they seek a free service is a government subsidized system.

No they aren't, they literally mean that women should fuck them for free and want to do it, because a government subsidized system IS STILL PROSTITUTION, they are still being payed by your taxes to fuck you, its just that other people are chipping in too
 

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