It was more stimulating than condom sex for me, but idk if that alone makes it better. For me just getting to have that physical contact for a little while was very nice. I think kissing while having sex was the most enjoyable.
Serious To Incels Who Refuse To Pay For Sex Year After Year, How Do You Plan On Sexually Satisfying A Woman When (IF) You Ascend?
I need to go to one before I rope... then roping will actually be worth it.
I personally don’t care if I satisfy a foid if I have sex. I only care if I get satisfied. As long as I don’t get charged with rape I am good. I plan on escortcelling when I get the money and freedom to do so. Escortcelling is definitely something that should be done atleast once.
I had no clue that roasties expect so much. I thought they expect young Chads to be the good ones, not old guys.
But anyways, I don't really care about satisfying her. I put my dick in her hole. If she doesn't enjoy it that much, whatever. Most foids only get occasional orgasms anyways, so that's to be expected. The fact that they now openly talk about dildos and vibrators is just extra proof that they satisfy themselves rather than through their provider husbands.
And if I ever do decide I need to learn to satisfy the hypothetical girlfriend by paying, I'll do it then. I don't want to give a literal whore my money over a fantasy girlfriend that may never happen
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Caring if the female is satisfied is cucked.
So what you're saying is if you can't ever get a girlfriend, you are just going to keep yourself a virgin till death?
You realize that it was common for even kings and lords to fuck prostitutes right?
This is what confuses me about some modern day nobody acting as if he's "above doing it", literal kings who were above you in every way were doing it, but you are "better than them" somehow?
Heck many kings had "concubines", hundreds of them in some cases, troupes of women paid to satisfy the kings every need.
How is it that these kings didn't take offense or feel "less than"
You guys are still stuck in this childish mindset of trying to "get back" at women, and you see paying for sex as "letting them win"
What you don't get is that you lost the game, its over, grow up and face reality, all that's left is what is available
It's about being attractive and having good dick, not "techniques" that i learn by fucking whores.
Also if you even think you'll have a gf in the future you're a fakecel. Trucels don't bother considering that.
Also if you even think you'll have a gf in the future you're a fakecel. Trucels don't bother considering that.
To many societies, concubines were just sex slaves. I'd be fine with that (if I could find the money to buy one).
But it is true that the value of pussy has gotten way inflated, and I'd be making it (marginally) worse by taking part.
And you're right, I haven't accepted that we lost the game. The only thing that keeps me going is the faint hope that reality could change. If I completely accept that the game is utterly lost, I'd just rope.
For fuck sake are you so dumb that you can't understand the meaning of what OP actually said? He stated the obvious that you will need to know how to satisfy a potential girlfriend if you want to keep her and doesn't want the girlfriend to dump you or cheat with someone else... people here are so fucking dumb and have a fucked up reading comprehension.
Interesting.
I personally dislike it if the whore moans, because I can never tell if she's faking it or if she's full of shit.
Though your reasoning is shit when applied to truecels like me, I don't ever think ascension is a possibility for me, so there's no point in trying to learn to pleasure a foid.
No. The value of the pussy will decrease if more men went to prostitutes and especially if buying sex was made legal everywhere. Less men would simp for ordinary girls and hence the sexual value for ordinary girls would decrease dramatically.
Learn how to tell, some things can't be faked
I don't think its possible for me either
I want to do it for the novelty, and also because its the "ultimate violation", for a being such as myself to bring a woman to orgasm, its like an offense against the universe itself
A plague will break out somewhere on the planet when I do it JFL
Some of them are probably good at acting, so I can't.
There's another issue with escortcelling that I have. Considering how low SMV I am, even if I do ascend (which I won't), any foid that I ascend with won't be anywhere near the caliber of escorts I'm used to, so I'm not sure I'd have the same level of enthusiasm.
Itll never happen escortcel
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Women will cheat no matter what it, it's in their nature.
Hey BlkPillPress I agree.
I can see you are a "hobbyist" and you are into "providers". The only thing, I think you or somebody mention kissing. I might have kissed once or twice with the GFE.
But not into kissing because I don't understand the purpose of it. Most hookers don't kiss since there is something more involved that sex blah blah blah.
I really don't know what kissing is, if I don't have experience or if I wont' be able to do it when "if" I get a gf. Kissing is just a way to transfer germs.
But fucking hookers it's OK in my book.
I can see you are a "hobbyist" and you are into "providers". The only thing, I think you or somebody mention kissing. I might have kissed once or twice with the GFE.
But not into kissing because I don't understand the purpose of it. Most hookers don't kiss since there is something more involved that sex blah blah blah.
I really don't know what kissing is, if I don't have experience or if I wont' be able to do it when "if" I get a gf. Kissing is just a way to transfer germs.
But fucking hookers it's OK in my book.
Maybe everyone knows they'll never get with a foid, so no fear of not pleasing.
The price in Sweden for 30 minutes is about 165 dollars which is 1500 SEK. Sorry for being wrong.
Well, it is a truth that the sex buyer law has made the price higher. If it was regulated the prices would be like in Germany and Netherlands where the prices are only 50 euros. The reason why Finland have high prices even though its legal in Finland is that the market is way less in Finland and therefore the hookers can charge more. Easy free market theory bro.
Swedish people are dumb. They see all the problems in our country with criminality and high migration but continue to vote for social democrats. But the fact is that the social democrats in Sweden would never have 28,3 percent if no immigrant voted for them. They are big because of all the immigrants voting for them and we have massive amount of immigrants in our country (34 percent). Just look at our death rates in covid, 12000 deaths compared to our nordic neighbors that together have like 2000 deaths. Many elderly people and swedish people in general vote for the social democrats because of tradition. The people in Northland are extreme with that. They are social democrats to the end just because their grandparents were social democrats lol...
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That's why getting married doesn't make sense anyways, it doesn't matter how hot your partner is, after a few years you'll be tired of her, because the only good pussy, is new pussy, you will always want something else
Its the reason why basically every male celebrity gets caught cheating (and the ones who haven't been caught likely just haven't been caught yet)
Arnold Schwarzenegger married a bombshell, at least a 7/10, and in the end he cheated on her with a pudgy 5/10 and had a love child with that woman, because new pussy is always better than old pussy, and I'm sure many married men realize this fact all too late into their marriages, and they are just stuck with these "commitments" until they die
That's the one thing I would never envy about a normies life, because they can get everything that is "normal" about the average human life so easily, they never question if its worth the effort to bother, because were from the outside looking in we are looking at these things with clear eyes
If I had a normie life I would probably be married right now to some woman below my looks league and thinking about cheating everyday lol
Yes, it's in their nature if you act like a betacuck that sucks at fucking her.
At least if you fuck some hookers and get practice you will gain more confidence and become more alpha since you won't care about a fish smelling ordinary girlfriend-pussy when you can order a 10/10 hooker in a minute for an affordable price. With that being said you will not make yourself a fool in front of your girlfriend and your girlfriend would have more respect for you. That will make her desire for your attention since you don't give a fuck anyways. This is how women work... they don't cheat at any cost.
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This sounds like a sentence you copied out of google translate
I'll take it as a positive lol
I really believe we actually should be glad that we live in a time where marriage is not seen as a must, like in the past, even though it means that it is harder for a man to find a girlfriend or wife. And that we live in a time where we can order a 10/10 hooker in no time to get our desire to the fullest.
Just look at Hugh Grant who had a beautiful girl named elizabeth hurley in the 90's. He ended up going to a hooker and was caught.
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just some lingo. You trying to get this kids to go do it with the ladies of the night?
I got kicked out of some other site for that. This site is more cool and you can say anything.
I decided to visit incel sites before but I thought they were too dark and gloomy. But I wanted to have fun and laugh. I that's possible here and some make fun of others or themselves. But this other site the administrator was very strict. He warned me and them kicked me out. There was this other guy who was very docile and shy. He had a Edward Scissorhands avatar. He was kicked out too. That's when I didn't want to associate with incels anymore and went to check on MGTOW. I learned a lot from them and I totally agree. But somehow I ended up here again. But this time I feel more welcomed.
Hard to see myself ever paying for sex tbh. I might die a virgin
same here. It’s not even about the sex for me, I want a girl to actually like me. Plus I’m not gonna fund a whore lmao, much less give my virginity to one
"Sex comes naturally" does not negate my genetic serotonin situation (deficiency). Can't you even read what I wrote? Clearly you aren't knowledgeable about premature ejaculation. I cum in masturbation every time under 20 seconds if at normie speed and not edging. Every single time of my life (except when taking SSRI pills). Every single time, and I've been masturbating over two decades. IELT increases in dose-dependent fashion when taking SSRI pills. I have vast experience about ejaculation latency (in masturbation) and serotonergic interventions. I've of course tried many other things also. When I was a child I thought that it is normal to ejaculate almost immediately. I have lifelong very rapid ejaculation and it can be normalised by increasing the available serotonin in the system.
i'm literally a 21 year old KHHV it's over for me, never began
GIVE!?
Do any of you guys realize that a lot of you talk like bitches?
You speak as if you are a woman, this forum is definitely filled with closet fags lol.
Lastly, your virginity isn't something that you "give" its something that you "lose". You are speaking of it, like its some kind of "gift", allow me to pull you out of disney world and into reality, it isn't, stop coping, grow up (ironically it seems like you plan on literally enacting "peter pan syndrome", so you are indeed mentally in disney world)
The fuck you talking about??GIVE!?
Do any of you guys realize that a lot of you talk like bitches?
You speak as if you are a woman, this forum is definitely filled with closet fags lol.
Lastly, your virginity isn't something that you "give" its something that you "lose". You are speaking of it, like its some kind of "gift", allow me to pull you out of disney world and into reality, it isn't, stop coping, grow up (ironically it seems like you plan on literally enacting "peter pan syndrome", so you are indeed mentally in disney world)
its just a common expression that many people use. You need to stop being retarded and trying to perform some type of psychological analysis on the basis of the usage of one word. If anything, you're projecting here.Keep saying I speak like as if I'm a woman when you literally behave like one. Legit getting triggered and going on a tirade because of the usage of a single word
That's seriously some twitter/reddit thot behavior, like one of those foids that get's angry when someone says 'female' or some other minor word. Get that bitch shit outta here
It only seems that way to you, because you don't read much, I'm sorry.
That isn't a tirade, its a response, and no it isn't a "common expression", its a phrase used by women, because it reflects the "value" that is ascribed to FEMALE virginity, a woman is said to "give" her virginity away, because its something she is expected to "hold onto", a man struggles to lose his virginity period (well an average and below average man), so a virginity isn't something "given" so much as it is "thrown" at women until one decides to catch it lol
I hope you enjoyed my next "tirade"
Next thing you're going to tell me "its that time of the month" is just a "common expression", yeah sure, it is, for women lol
Nah, I read plenty. It definitely was a tirade, I mean you randomly came out throwing a whole bunch of insults one after another for no reason (when I didn't even insult you)
I called you out so now you're just trying to pass it off as not much and have softened you response. That's why your suggestion that this response isn't a "tirade" is completely correct! Notice how you toned it down significantly and aren't spewing insults everywhere now. No longer ranting lmaoYes, it is a common expression. Go onto twitter or any other social media site and type in "give my virginity" and you can see with your own eyes literally thousands of men and women nonchalantly using the phrase. That being said, if you want to know my actual opinion on the worth of male virginity, I'm in complete agreement with you that it lacks the same worth that female virginity has.
The thing is that when I, and nearly everyone else on this site, am browsing these forums, 99% of the time I'm making casual comments without caring about making sure all the little details and words of every comment are in complete 100% alignment with blackpill principles. That doesn't mean I disagree with those principles, just that I don't really care about thinking too much about minor details in comments that barely anyone will even read. So yeah, I do understand what you're saying and I don't even disagree with you. If it really bothers you so much just know that I'd edit my comment if I could, it doesn't really matter to me given that using the word "lose" would still be in alignment with my intended meaning
With dick pills
This mindset right here is Exhibit A of being a "man child"
Unable to accept reality, so instead of playing with the cards you have, you fold
There's a lot of things in life we'd all like to have, but sometimes you just have to take whats available, grow up
The greatest regrets in life are not what you do, but what you chose not to do, there is always minor satisfaction in pursuing a path or making a decision, even if it doesn't work out. There is no satisfaction to be had when you do nothing, only the regret of an missed opportunity.
Wtf
Your comment is Exhibit A of being a man child, you buffoon. Why're you still responding to me? I thought we were done, but I guess your childish rage keeps making you want to come back.No where in my comment do I suggest I'm unable to accept reality, you're just so eager to attack me that you're projecting a whole bunch of assumptions onto a casual comment I made which has no deeper meanings within it at all. I fully accept the reality of the situation I'm in, all I said was that I would like a girl to actually like me. That in no way means I'm unable to accept reality. I just don't care for escortmaxxing at all.
Don't call me a man child when you're literally getting triggered over my lack of interest in prostitutes. Only an ACTUAL man child would become so indignant over someone elses lack of interest in such a thing. You're the one who should grow up and accept that not everyone shares your interests/opinions on the matter without feeling to need to start cascading insults everywhere at the first sign of disagreement. Literal man child mentality LOL
It's cope if you think escorts will change this.
Escorts don't fuck you because you make them feel good.
So you have no feedback as to whether or not what you do with an escort makes them feel good.
No, I expect it would be awkward and I'll make mistakes and will need to look for feedback on a case-by-case basis.
Even if I were somehow able to bring some escort to orgasm that wouldn't guarantee I'd be able to do the same thing and get the same response from some other girl.
Apostrocancer
Knowing what she likes doesn't mean you will, even if you legit found out what some escort likes, and you probably haven't because escorts have little incentive to complain if you do stuff that's unsexy
As for knowing what men like: I wouldn't generalize the majority of foids as knowing anything special in regard to that, because foids can do just about anything and still have men like them. They don't necessarily have any motivation to learn, or negative feedback from orbiters if they do the wrong thing.
The only possible way foids learn is from negative feedback from Chad, and that primarily teaches her what special things to do to please Chad.
She's not likely to do them for you.
Being used to having sex does not necessarily mean you are going to perform in a way that's pleasant for her.
You are probably thinking about this somewhat 1-dimensionally like "I can move my dick in an escort's loose pussy for half an hour without cooming, this is going to make my non-escort GF coom for sure!" but I'm pretty sure we need to be considering more variables.
If you're not Chad then your GF won't be aroused by her, so her vagina won't tighten up and no matter what motions you make with your dick inside her, little force transfer will occur to her internal clitoris, so she won't coom.
The thing you're not getting here, the sheer gap between us and Chad, is that the escorts you fuck have loose pussies because they're not aroused by you, so you've only trained "lasting power" inside a loose pussy that's incapable of orgasming.
When a foid is actually aroused and able to orgasm (theoretically possible if she's thinking of Chad or you rub her external clit first or something) her pussy is going to be tighter than you've ever experienced, and all that training you did to go up from lasting 30 seconds to 30 minutes inside an escort's unaroused tunnel might let you last 30 seconds instead of 3 seconds but that's about it.
This will always be the case no matter how many escorts you fuck.
Legit the only way to train up your ability to have real "aroused foid" sex is actually with an aroused foid, ie it can't be an escort but a foid who legit likes you.
I don't even remember what exactly we argued about (there are a lot of guys like you on this site, it becomes a blur really, a lot of you hold the same position), and I only really just noticed that single statement all on its own, and its a ridiculous statement, I don't see how you can't see it as childishWtf
Really?, you are basically saying - "I can't eat steak so I guess I'll just starve"
(oh yeah, that's very realistic, that sounds like the rationalization of someone of a sound mind). how is that not someone denying reality?You are so dead set on "having it your way" that you won't consider the alternatives, how is that not childish?
Ah okay, well we discussed stuff yesterday so I thought you were just trying to pick another fight with me.
Really?, you are basically saying - "I can't eat steak so I guess I'll just starve"
That's not what I'm saying
. My stance isn't a rejection of reality in any way. You're making it sound like paying an escort is an equivalent replacement of actual ascension, when it really isn't. They're two completely different things. Paying prostitutes won't fix any incels issues because from her perspective it's just a job. She does what she has to do, you pay then leave, and then she never thinks about you again. Just because I'm not interested in that doesn't mean I'm in rejection about the reality of my status as an incel.Escortcelling isn't an alternative to actual ascension though. Like I said, they're two completely different things. Plus, whether I'm "dead set on having it my way" or not doesn't matter at all. All I said was that I would like a girl to actually like me, which is literally the goal of every incel because it entails ascension. If I can achieve that then I can leave inceldom behind. If I go around paying prostitutes to fuck me, I still remain an incel, so doing so isn't actually an alternative to a girl actually liking me. Having a girl genuinely interested in you (leading to sex) is the only path out of inceldom, there are no alternatives.
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goes against my silent standard. simple as.
What are "incel issues"?
Before you answer, let me remind you that
INCEL
Means INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE
It does not mean involuntarily "lonely"
It does not mean involuntarily "un-loved"
It does not mean involuntarily "undesired"
INCELDOM IS ABOUT SEX
You know, based on that word, CELIBACY, as in relation to SEX (well, the lack of it)
A lot of you guys need to stop adding personal definitions and addendums to the definition to suit your "emotional mindset"
You don't seem to realize how that's a contradiction, if you argue that inceldom is about loneliness for example or "companionship", then someone who jumps from sexual relationship to sexual relationship can claim they are an "incel" too in some way based on the criteria of being lonely or "not having a companion". You don't get to say for every person on the planet what constitutes loneliness or companionship because these things are subjective, they can't really be quantified
Whereas being celibate is something that is objective, it can be quantified rather than "felt"
I encourage everyone to visit a hooker at least once.
You almost certainly won't be able to satisfy the woman, but at least she will satisfy you.
You almost certainly won't be able to satisfy the woman, but at least she will satisfy you.
Okay let's all pay for a prostitute, involuntary celibacy solved! Shut the forum down!!!!
But seriously, to the OPs question, yes maybe paying for a woman to spread her legs so I can thrust in-out until I cum |hopefully I'm not too nervous and can get/stay hard] may help me in future when I magically ascend.
When they are taking bookings again and this covid shit is over, I'll go for it finally. OK, happy?
But seriously, to the OPs question, yes maybe paying for a woman to spread her legs so I can thrust in-out until I cum |hopefully I'm not too nervous and can get/stay hard] may help me in future when I magically ascend.
When they are taking bookings again and this covid shit is over, I'll go for it finally. OK, happy?
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I kind of want a fleshlight, but the issue is getting it sealed and unseen when delivered to my house.
you have a lot of the same thoughts as me
Sex isn't literally food though - and you're basically talking about the difference between fasting and eating rotten steak that will give you parasites.Really?, you are basically saying - "I can't eat steak so I guess I'll just starve"
You are so dead set on "having it your way" that you won't consider the alternatives, how is that not childish?
@DunSorbus Cope
. The majority of zoomer females are practically whores.Most of them have sex almost as often as escorts do (which is at least every 1 or 2 weeks). Also their interest in a "love relationship" is heavily dependent on the finances of the male partner, just as escorts are heavily interested in the client's finance. Females are very likely to cheat / break-up / deny sex when the male partner undergoes a major financial difficulty during the relationship, just as escorts are very likely to reject the client upon their failure to pay.
If you dont see the similarities between escorts and ordinary females, its because you cope
. The nature of common zoomer female is basically identical to the nature of escort. The only notable difference between them is bodycount and non-secrecy / honesty, which the escort would have more of.
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You'll never get low bodycount non-ugly girl as the incel, won't happen
fuck ascending im never going to try again
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