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Cold approach journal of a 28-year-old virgin

prob not enough showers
 
Cold approaching is a meme.
 
But...but...I showered and wore deodorant!

I forgot to lift and get a haircut today, that must be where I'm going wrong.

was ur chest sticking out and pointing in opposite direction of female?

Chest needs to point other way from what i heard or else u come off too strong.
 
JFL at trying to cold approach as an incel

for that to work you would need to be AT LEAST on the 80% percentile of men AND be NT. Not even NT normies can cold approach, they all run social circle game.

if you are not attractive and have no social circle IT'S OVER, COLD APPROACHING WON'T WORK FOR YOU AS IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN.
 
Was running out of time to make today's approach so settled for a slightly chubbier girl, 6/10 max.

Got the boyfriend excuse but she was more smiley and receptive and touched my arm as she walked past me...closest thing to physical affection I've had from a girl I find at least somewhat attractive in a long time. Sad but true.

Best reaction out of the 4 so far from this small run but that's not saying much.
 

So you're 6'4, white and clearly not ugly enough since a girl (possibly more than one) thought you were hot enough to kiss you.

Why are you here again?
 
So you're 6'4, white and clearly not ugly enough since a girl (possibly more than one) thought you were hot enough to kiss you.

Why are you here again?
The clue is in the title of this thread.
 
All of you who have mentioned my height as if it's impossible to be an incel while being 6'4" are laughable.

To say "women want tall guys" holds no more truth than the regurgitated speels we've heard from normies time and time again - "just be confident! just be yourself!". I can tell you from experience - being tall means the square root of fuck all when it comes to getting girls. Women want tall guys? No. Women want tall, very good looking, muscular guys with a high SMV and social circle. They want nothing to do with tall, below average looking guys with no social circle.
 
All of you who have mentioned my height as if it's impossible to be an incel while being 6'4" are laughable.

To say "women want tall guys" holds no more truth than the regurgitated speels we've from normies heard time and time again - "just be confident! just be yourself!". I can tell you from experience - being tall means the square root of fuck all when it comes to getting girls. Women want tall guys? No. Women want tall, very good looking, muscular guys with a high SMV and social circle. They want nothing to do with tall, below average looking guys with no social circle.

Yet many have kissed you. Yet you think you're somehow ugly enough to undermine the fact you're 6'4
 
Yet many have kissed you. Yet you think you're somehow ugly enough to undermine the fact you're 6'4
Where did I say "many" have kissed me? That's not the case.

Face >>>>>>>>>> height when it comes to attraction, I would have thought this is common knowledge.
 
Where did I say "many" have kissed me? That's not the case.

Face >>>>>>>>>> height when it comes to attraction, I would have thought this is common knowledge.

You have been hard downplaying the fact you aren't a KV.

So tell me... How many girls kissed you? And what were their ratings roughly?

The awnser will show you and everyone else here that you are good looking enough (face wise) to have a foid attracted to you. If you didn't manage to fuck her after that then that was your fuck up. Either way you aren't really incel.
 
You have been hard downplaying the fact you aren't a KV.

So tell me... How many girls kissed you? And what were their ratings roughly?

The awnser will show you and everyone else here that you are good looking enough (face wise) to have a foid attracted to you. If you didn't manage to fuck her after that then that was your fuck up. Either way you aren't really incel.
Can't go into detail based on forum rules...although to consider me describing my experiences as "bragging" would be laughable.

I'm not really incel? Do you understand the meaning of the term? Involuntary celibate - someone who desires sex but can't have it despite trying. I'm a guy. I'm attracted to girls. I've tried to initiate what I hope will ultimately be sexual pursuits with them repeatedly and have been rejected repeatedly - meaning I can't have sex with them.

I don't know how I can break it down any easier for you.
 
Can't go into detail based on forum rules...although to consider me describing my experiences as "bragging" would be laughable.

I'm not really incel? Do you understand the meaning of the term? Involuntary celibate - someone who desires sex but can't have it despite trying. I'm a guy. I'm attracted to girls. I've tried to initiate what I hope will ultimately be sexual pursuits with them repeatedly and have been rejected repeatedly - meaning I can't have sex with them.

I don't know how I can break it down any easier for you.

I never told you to go into detail. Just say the number.

By the strictest definition you are an incel. But it isn't your looks that's holding you back that's for sure.
 
You need to have game, not to get laid but hide you are an autistic. Only Chad doesn't need it.
 
Fuck man I have similar looks characteristics as you. Now that I read your sad journey I have lost all my hopes of ever dating someone. RIP
 
Again, time constraints affected today's approach. She was 6/10 but fake tan maxxed. Kept walking. Not even noteworthy other than it fulfilling my quota for the day.

It's worth noting that I'll reach 100 approaches this month. I would need one of the next 18 girls to go on a date for me to get 1 date from 100 approaches. It's not exactly looking likely.

Grim stuff.
 
How's your physique and style? maybe that's the problem here.
 
Cold approach is a myth. Even a long enough stare in the eyes is an approach, if you are a CHAD and it is harassment if you are not. It simply does not work.
 
>6'4
>white
how are you a virgin again?
 
It's getting worse.

Today's approach was a girl I barely even found attractive - I did it to make up the numbers more than anything. It went like this:

"Excuse me! Can I get your number?" (said with smile and enthusiastic voice)
"Eh, no, thank you, it's 11 in the morning..." *walks off*
"I know, weird, isn't it?" *walks away*

Now I'm getting rejected by girls I hardly even find attractive.
How's your physique and style? maybe that's the problem here.
I'm tall and slim. My style is basic but I make sure my clothes are always clean, well ironed etc. There's no point in going out and spending a fortune on designer gear and expecting it to work miracles. An ugly guy dressed up in a Louis Vuitton jacket and Armani jeans is still an ugly guy.

I never told you to go into detail. Just say the number.

By the strictest definition you are an incel. But it isn't your looks that's holding you back that's for sure.
What else is it likely to be? Without audio recordings of interactions it's difficult to get across what my approaches are like, but I'm not going up to girls all loud and obnoxious...I'm laid back and I sometimes call out the randomness of the situation to demonstrate social awareness. Some of them like the compliment but very few of them even stop and talk to me now - most of them walk away within 10 seconds.
 
That shit only works if you're Chad or sitting in an exotic super car.

You need social circle aka warm approach or forget it.
 
Today's approach was slightly better. Really sweet girl, very soft spoken and shy. Didn't walk off within 10 seconds which is progress. Ultimately a rejection though.

I'm thinking it might be wise to switch up my approach venues. All my approaches for the month have been in or around the same mall. I'm certain the security recognise me but don't think they've realised what I'm doing. I've approached quite a few girls that work in the mall though. I would hope none of them would be bitchy enough to say anything but you can never be too sure.
 
Excuse me! Can I get your number?" (said with smile and enthusiastic voice)
"Eh, no, thank you, it's 11 in the morning..." *walks off*
"I know, weird, isn't it?" *walks away
How do you dont want to be reject if you ask stupids things like that?? :feelstastyman:

At least say "hi" first.
 
5. Instant rejection. By this point I decided to start talking absolute nonsense to self-amuse:
"Hey! Do you remember me? We were in the same woodwork class."
She looked at me with a look of utter confusion.
"No, I'm kidding, I just thought you looked nice."
Walked off looking at me like I was a nutjob.
.
Ha! I've tried this occasionally. My therapist says I need to lie to women more. For practice I'll make-up my character whole-cloth; it's especially fun to insist that me and girl already know each other.

Good luck, and keep the reports coming in. I love this stuff.
 
How do you dont want to be reject if you ask stupids things like that?? :feelstastyman:

At least say "hi" first.
As I said, I barely even found this particular girl attractive so wasn't going to put a huge amount of effort into the approach. That is not a typical opener - usually I will say something along the lines of "hey, I know this is random, but I thought you looked quite nice"...not that it seems to matter.

Ha! I've tried this occasionally. My therapist says I need to lie to women more. For practice I'll make-up my character whole-cloth; it's especially fun to insist that me and girl already know each other.

Good luck, and keep the reports coming in. I love this stuff.
Thanks for the support. There will be a 'field report' every day this month as I have to do at least one approach every day for the month, and there will be the occasional 'mega approach' day to make up the total number of approaches to 50...going to push the boundaries so I can get some memorable interactions to report.
 
Thanks for the support. There will be a 'field report' every day this month as I have to do at least one approach every day for the month, and there will be the occasional 'mega approach' day to make up the total number of approaches to 50...going to push the boundaries so I can get some memorable interactions to report.
That's the spirit! I like when malcontents don't let society sweep them under under the rug.
 
Well, thankfully today's - or I should say tonight's - approach was more interesting than the others I've done in this mini run.

Didn't do any approaches in the mall before work which severely restricted my options for the rest of the day. No excuses, though, I told myself - I've said I'll do at least one approach every day for the month, and I'm sticking to it. No approaches is not an option.

I was running out of time, but finally got my approach in at 11pm at the train station. Obviously it was late and dark - yet the girl was far more receptive than any other I've approached this month. I'll recite the start of the conversation while it's still fresh in my mind:

"Excuse me, do you know where the nearest cash machine is?"
"I'm not sure, I think..." (in foreign accent)
"Oh, are you not from here?"
"I just moved here not long ago."
"Where are you from? You have an exotic look."
"Peru."
"I would never have guessed that, I would have said Middle Eastern."
"Yeah, I get that..."

Given the context - 11pm, outside in the dark - I thought it was best to go indirect and quickly change it to a normal conversation. I spoke with her for a couple of minutes - it's been a while since I've had a proper conversation from an approach so I was out of practice but just about managed to keep it going. After a minute or so I did say to her "I came up to you because I thought you looked quite nice" and throughout the entire conversation she was smiley and receptive. Invited her out for a coffee but unfortunately got the boyfriend excuse. She said "but thank you, you're really nice" - bluepilled words of comfort obviously aren't what I want to hear, but at least it makes a change from the usual instant dismissal out of hand.

Interesting that the most likeable and receptive girl I've encountered so far reacted the way she did in what would usually be considered the most disadvantageous context. Also interesting that she happened to be foreign. Maybe that's the way to go.
 
Today's approach resulted in a polite rejection. Not much else to say. Might try and get in another before the end of the day.

On Saturday I plan to do at least 5 approaches. Should be plenty of targets at the malls.
 
You could try to approach them with some humor perhaps drop a pickup line something along the lines of "Is your dad a terrorist? Cause you’re the bomb." You'd be surprised how far a little joke in your approach will get you.
 
lol @ all the retarded incel kids calling a 28 year old virgin who approaches women a fakecel. Y'ALL haven't tried an nth as hard as this guy has, nor experienced an nth of his pain. Nothing amplifies inceldom like age.
 
damn, and I thought I was a skeletoncel at 170cm/55kg
you tried being a gymcel? Cause that's where I gave up when after 3 months daily workouts I came out 3 kilos lighter hahah
 
you tried being a gymcel? Cause that's where I gave up when after 3 months daily workouts I came out 3 kilos lighter hahah
I work out daily in my room using a weight vest and a pull up bar. I'm into bouldering, so being lightweight works for me. Funny thing is my weight seems to stay the same regardless of what I do even though I clearly have more muscle now than I did a month ago, might have gone up by 0.5 kg, but I really don't know because I don't really track it. Have you tried protein shakes? they actually taste very good after a workout session, plus I'm usually not in the mood to cook after that anyway. I don't think one has to gain a lot of mass to look good, e.g. gymnasts have extremely efficient muscles and still look good because they have good muscle definition.
 
A 1/1000 chance each time might eventually work if you go for ugly girls, crazy to think with slightly different Gene's you could have a 80/100 chance or higher
 
Why are you so stupid? YOU ARE A 28 YEAR OLD VIRGIN. Do you know how fucked that is? 28 fucking years old. You need to lose your virginity right now and not try to meet some fairly tale Stacy who will see past your subpar looks and agree to a date with you and then love you forver. That is NEVER going to happen. You need to lower your standards, get some experience and then perhaps try your luck with the 7/10 girls. I am not telling you to start approaching ugly girls, but AT LEAST lower it to 5/10, preferably 4/10 if you want to get laid.

No wonder you guys (you and @uninstall) are getting rejected every single approach, you are shooting way outside of your league. 5/10 + 7/10 is very possible, but those couples meet within their social circle or work, not by some approach during the day.

You're like one of those street sellers, stopping people going about their day, trying to sell them a piece of turd that they do not want.

If I ever got so desperate I went outside to approach foids during the day, I would approach 4+ and stay away from foids way out of my league unless they gave me an IOI too good to ignore.

You need to start being realistic and going after girls of similar "value" (looks) to your own.


"5/10 on a good day" = 4/10.
Well said. This is what has worked for me in the past. Looksmatch and hookers.
Cold approach within your league, different settings e.g. bars but first get your experience.
Goodluck friend
 
Well said. This is what has worked for me in the past. Looksmatch and hookers.
Cold approach within your league, different settings e.g. bars but first get your experience.
Goodluck friend
cold approaching in your league never works because girls have a gazillion better options than yourself.

You need to date down massively if you want to get a girl through cold approach. It´s just like on Tinder.

Even if you are a male 9/10 you will have to go for the 2s,3s and 4s if you want to have any success.
 
Blackpill: you probably are not 5/10 if you found your way here.

People tend to over rate themselves by +1. So read 4/10 and gangly 6 ft 4. Not a good combination. A recipe for a frustrated life.
Was running out of time to make today's approach so settled for a slightly chubbier girl, 6/10 max.

Got the boyfriend excuse but she was more smiley and receptive and touched my arm as she walked past me...closest thing to physical affection I've had from a girl I find at least somewhat attractive in a long time. Sad but true.

Best reaction out of the 4 so far from this small run but that's not saying much.

sympathy.

you are obviously a nicer guy than uninstall who never gets this
 
Sincere kudos for your courage - who knows, after spam approaching two hundreds you may find a weird non-NT girl with a warped sense of aesthetics who will fuck you. It's like blue lobsters, they probably exist if you seek long enough.
 
sympathy.

you are obviously a nicer guy than uninstall who never gets this
From reading uninstall's thread, it's clear that a lot of the girls have been bitchy to him. I'm willing to bet this is more down to their arrogance, dismissing him purely on his looks, and because approaching is frowned upon where he stays rather than any faults on his own part. When you're going out day after day as he is, putting in so much effort into this, and being repeatedly dismissed out of hand like a piece of shit, it's only natural that you're going to become resentful.

Sincere kudos for your courage - who knows, after spam approaching two hundreds you may find a weird non-NT girl with a warped sense of aesthetics who will fuck you. It's like blue lobsters, they probably exist if you seek long enough.
Thanks for the support. That's pretty much all I can hope will happen; how many approaches I'll have to do, I don't know, but I've decided I'm going to get to at least 300.
 
OP this is so autistic.
 
cold approaching in your league never works because girls have a gazillion better options than yourself.

You need to date down massively if you want to get a girl through cold approach. It´s just like on Tinder.

Even if you are a male 9/10 you will have to go for the 2s,3s and 4s if you want to have any success.
Yes this. Better put than what I intended to say.
 
From reading uninstall's thread, it's clear that a lot of the girls have been bitchy to him. I'm willing to bet this is more down to their arrogance, dismissing him purely on his looks, and because approaching is frowned upon where he stays rather than any faults on his own part. When you're going out day after day as he is, putting in so much effort into this, and being repeatedly dismissed out of hand like a piece of shit, it's only natural that you're going to become resentful.


.

Yes it is hard to remain polite - but you've probably got a better spirit for the rejections than he has. Everyone comes across differently and women can sum you up just with a look pretty well. You will probably meet someone sooner or later so keep trying but I agree with others - dont go above your own standard.
 
Jesus christ, a brutal glimpse into my future
 

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