If a foid is sexually attracted towards you and acts on it, you aren't a truecel; Nothing else needs to be said, I'm correct you aren't
Can You Lose Your Virginity Via E-Sex Or Does Your Incel Status Remain?
If the foid is sexually attracted towards me she should let me fuck her.
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Story Cousin thinks I lost my virginity to a Thai ladyboy
It's not proper sex
But if she has seen your face, your dick and she's not repulsed, I'm not sure we should keep you here
But if she has seen your face, your dick and she's not repulsed, I'm not sure we should keep you here
E-sex is the dumbest thing I've heard of
@mods can we please throw him in pajeeta pit?
Still a KHHV so still a trucel
Interesting question. Why do you ask?
Incorrect all women are the same online and irl be careful who you fuck or try to as they are all feminist ps craze with incorrect goals of wanting to kill people like me
Yes! That's why I said if you can get into a serious relationship with a foid online ( mind you standards are way more brutal online), you can most definitely pull one IRL.
Also I don't know why you brought up 'feminists who wants to kill', you basically adding your own bullshit to make your point valid :/
Is this the definitively accepted definition to be used in the forum, or just your opinion?
I think if you have paid sex, or transactional sex in general, you can't be called an incel. It would be just misusing the term. Having that kind of sex is for sure not valid for most of us, but we should use another term for when you're just not naturally wanted.
Also by your definition, a serial rapist would also be an incel. It's nonsense using the term in such a way.
Another problem I see is that focusing too much on whether women deeply want you or not is ultimately feminist rhetoric, we shouldn't think that way, we're using the language of the enemy, so to speak.
Back before the sexual revolution, what women wanted was secondary, and having sex through transactional paths was totally ok.
Also female desire is in many cases a rationalization on their part, like with the kidnapped wives situation, where women have evolved to end up feeling love towards their kidnappers as a way of adaptation. I mean after a while they really delude themselves that they love those guys, in the same way once they change to another guy they convince themselves they never really loved the previous guy.
So when they end up "wanting" transactional partners, it could be argued that their wanting is genuine because they believe it.
My definition, just like many people disagree on what is an 'Normie'.
A lot of men in this forum already visited escorts (their words not mine), would you believe they were not Incel just because of it?
My understanding is that if the average woman, think HS or some rando from the work force does not want / wanted to have sex then you are an Incel.
The moment you put money on the table does not means your Incel status is revoked, many, and I mean MANY betabuxxers today would be Incel if not for their ability to provide.
I don't see a problem with your view, what women want is irrelevant, but society now as a whole is ruled by women, if you want sex or the company of a woman, you need to look how they want and act how they want, this is a fact.
I can't brute force myself to have sex with a woman without having consequences, I could do it in Grand Theft San Andreas.
Love is also subjective, I love my mom, we had fights before, but I would never leave her, if you leave your partner then you don't love him, this is simple, then again love is subjective.
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Prostitutes don't count imo. Only sex with a willing civilian female participant
He's asking for @deleted dude
I wouldn't call them incels anymore, because they're not celibate. I'd try to use a specific term for them. Maybe unwanted or bux-ascended.
However I wouldn't think they have to be excluded from the forum or anything like that. They still share our experience of the world.
In the end is just a semantic argument.
In the same sentence you say that paying doesn't revoke incel, but that betabuxxers "would be incel", implying they're not incels anymore because they provided (which is paying all the same, just in other form). That is, you're implying that paying revoked their inceldom.
See, there's a contradiction there.
Many of us wouldn't be here if our fathers wouldn't have paid in the shape of providing, and I'm sure most of us wouldn't call our dads incels, even those of us who are single children.
That is true, but if we really want to go back to how things were, or at least to some middle point fairer than the current one, we should stop validating the current discourse by measuring our inceldom status on whether one of them wanted us or not. Ideally, in our discourse we should enforce the idea that women can't have it all anymore and that they need to let go of some of their wants for the good of society if they want men to invest themselves again. So we should start thinking and defending that paying/providing is a respectable way to ascend and hopefully women should concede that they have to respect providers and give them a good deal.
Not saying we must do this, maybe we just want to enjoy the decline, I'm not fully sure about it myself, most of us probably wouldn't even be able to provide satisfactory, on the other hand elites probably wouldn't allow it because they have profited immensely from the male-female separation. It would need to be a social revolution, not a political one.
Strong agree, but now the 'loyalty' AND beauty of your woman is directly tied to HOW MUCH you provide not if you can provide.
I know Old Gen AND Boomer men who are below me in looks that managed to get stunning women, but it was a different time back then, I could imagine how better it would be in the medieval times.
This is why when I talk about women I love saying 'modern women' and not Boomers / Silent Gen, because there are indeed good women back then.
I believe men are meant to take care of women and provide for then, I wanted to be a provider, excluding the fact I can't work because I'm ND.
But not in this decade or the last, ever, every man I know who ended being 'providers' got whipped, men in my family divorced in their mid 20's, that shit was unheard of in the 50's, I'm talking about men who look good and make good money, they dumped these men for a man that was able to provide more, not because he was a douchebag or ugly.
I can promote all day long that women should respect her provider and that as long he keeps her under a hoof she should respect him and remain with him, but that won't change shit, not with feminism completly destroying the brain of the average woman.
esex is gay
Nope that's retarded and doesn't count.
Making weird rules doesn't make them true you know. What next it doesn't count if you don't hit it raw and creampie her?
That's not real sex.
But if a woman was willing to do that shit with you, and it wasn't a whore/paypig situation, then that suggests you have some SMV and I think questions would need to be asked.
But if a woman was willing to do that shit with you, and it wasn't a whore/paypig situation, then that suggests you have some SMV and I think questions would need to be asked.
It makes you a fakecel but you're still a virgin
No, that isn't some arbitrary rule he just made up. That has been debated at length here and it is codified in the forum rules.
A prostitute fucking you for money is not the same as a woman fucking you because she wants to. Not remotely the same. Not even close.
Depends, but I would say it would be more volcel then - considering that girls actively want to do that stuff with you.
I agree with the incel part. I don't however agree with the virginity part. To stop being an incel you must experience true desire and that isn't something that can be paid for which is why I'm here. Virginity is a social construct that has to do with just never having sex ever. E-sex is like e-sports. Much like E-sex isn't really sex neither is e-sport a sport. I think the issue here that leads to confusion is conflating virginity with incel status when escortcels like myself pretty much throw that out the window.
still remains if you frauded and or didnt show face and height
E-sex with a troon…..I honestly believe we should ban all gooners from this forum and keep it TRUECHUDCELS only
Only sex that counts is Habbo Hotel sex, nothing else, not even irl. Habbo Hotel sex to ascend or permaincel.
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