Serious Am I delusional or are most men finally admitting defeat? Poll. Please take seriously.

[mylifeistrash]

In 2008.

"hahah, we're gonna be rich rockstars, get tons of pussy, make six figures out of college.

2018.

"fuck, can't even get a match on tinder. it's over."

 

[TheRealChincel]

I think we’re seeing a defeat in terms of hoping to be Chad. You’ll never see guys opting out like Steve Hoca hopes.

 

[Deleted member 2047]

The later is true. No matter how hard you try to cope it away, tinder is the absolute best measure of your human worth in 2018

 

[FiveFourManlet]

No where near the majority is admitting defeat, and that will never be the case.

Just because you see MGTOW channels on YouTube and a load of people on this site doesn’t mean majority of men are admitting defeat, it means the men that are aware of female nature that admitted defeat.

Delusional for sure.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

No where near the majority is admitting defeat, and that will never be the case.

Just because you see MGTOW channels on YouTube and a load of people on this site doesn’t mean majority of men are admitting defeat, it means the men that are aware of female nature that admitted defeat.

Delusional for sure.

yes, now instead of a few hundred mgtowers, there are a few thousand or so. This defeat mentality is still freakishly obscure and not mainstream at the slightest, besides being derided by the mainstream. Just look at how fucking inceltears is far far bigger than incel forums. And even then 99.9% of bluepillers aren't going to spend their whole life searching for mean content by incels to get offended by lmao.

 

[mylifeistrash]

The later is true. No matter how hard you try to cope it away, tinder is the absolute best measure of your human worth in 2018

i love tinder TBH. it's the fastest, best "human worth evaluation" EVER.

delusional copes come to die on it

 

[Reddit_is_for_cucks]

No where near the majority is admitting defeat, and that will never be the case.

Just because you see MGTOW channels on YouTube and a load of people on this site doesn’t mean majority of men are admitting defeat, it means the men that are aware of female nature that admitted defeat.

Delusional for sure.

Did your parents let you back in house? What’s your situation now

 

[Deleted member 10124]

I think people are waking up with one hell of a hang over after the amount of they've been casually popping over the nineties & noughties. The tens are the decade of the after being developed in the noughties. The latter tens are the beginning of the and the twenties will see the go full throttle. The thirties will see the reascension of the before the forties sees the actual emergence of the White Pill.

That's my hypothesis at least.

 

[ADD Sufferer]

I think we’re seeing a defeat in terms of hoping to be Chad. You’ll never see guys opting out like Steve Hoca hopes.

What is Steve up to these days? He recorded some gems over the years but his attitude shifted very frequently. You refer to his MGTOW period? Before his latest departure he and HBTDL supported the "oofy doofy / slubby hubby" theory where the uglier you are the better you chances with women are. Not even kidding.

 

[TheRealChincel]

What is Steve up to these days? He recorded some gems over the years but his attitude shifted very frequently. You refer to his MGTOW period? Before his latest departure he and HBTDL supported the "oofy doofy / slubby hubby" theory where the uglier you are the better you chances with women are. Not even kidding.

I haven't followed him in years but I know he changed his views a few times. Yeesh, that's like thinking dad bod actually appeals to women.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

In 2008.

"hahah, we're gonna be rich rockstars, get tons of pussy, make six figures out of college.

2018.

"fuck, can't even get a match on tinder. it's over."

I wouldn't say MOST yet, but definitely an incredible amount.

(((They))) even just made "Incel: The Movie" to try to capitalize on our current reality as men:



If Hollywood is trying to cash in on our pain you know we've reached massive awareness.

I always go back to this graphic because I think it tells us almost everything we need to know about the current dating situation:

Here is how this will go:

- Any race with >20% celibacy will inevitably have millions of men who realize it's completely over for them.
- It takes 2-3 years of celibacy for the average guy to realize he's an incel and not just "temporarily unlucky".
- For some, it may take yet another 2-3 years of coping with PUA, fashion, gym, etc before that guy realizes the blackpill.

Therefore we have already had a few years of Asian men trying to cope with reddits like "AsianMasculinity" to try to tell themselves Asian men can be attractive or that it's societal/Hollywood oppression holding them back, rather than objective physical attractiveness. And now most people seem to understand that's just delusion and the fact is Asians are just uglier to women. WMAF is a worldwide known joke now. Asian women are widely known to worship white men.

So we are reaching a point where a very large percent of Asians know they are pretty fucked.

As for whites/blacks, the stats don't favor their awakening yet. Blackcels will be the next big wave of incelibacy. Their numbers are rising fast. Blacks are also low inhib so they will have no hesitation to talk/post about it. We will see more Kents on Youtube.

I estimate critical mass for blacks by 2022.

Once the awareness has reached most Asian/Indian/Black men, many whites will pick up on it just by proximity. But whites won't reach >20% celibacy til 2025 at the earliest. They will be the last men standing.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

(((They))) even just made "Incel: The Movie" to try to capitalize on our current reality as men:


If Hollywood is trying to cash in on our pain you know we've reached massive awareness.

haven't those movies been made forever? They were definitely popping these out consistently since at least the 70s/80s.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

haven't those movies been made forever? They were definitely popping these out consistently since at least the 70s/80s.

No. Not the same. Those old nerd movies like Revenge of the Nerds were more intentionally absurdist and not blackpilled at all. Even American Pie took this route of absurdism. Eg. Nadia wanting Jim for no apparent reason at all.

That trailer covers so many tenants of the blackpill in just a few minutes it's really quite unprecedented. The very first line of it even.

They clearly have been reading incel forums when they wrote that movie. Quite possibly the writers are incels themselves.

This is something very new and different.

 

[RodgersSecondAdvent]

The West is done for. Your best options are accelerating its demise or fleeing from the impending ruination.

 

[Zenith]

If you stepped outside the Internet incel bubble, the majority of men are still exactly like this:

"hahah, we're gonna be rich rockstars, get tons of pussy, make six figures out of college.

Inceldom and MGTOW as movements or ways of thought are extremely rare; maybe a few people out of a university with thousands would even know what these terms mean, if that; there is a reason why this forum only has 200 active members, and 800 guests.

So yes @mylifeistrash, you are delusional.

 

[caudino]

No where near the majority is admitting defeat, and that will never be the case.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

The West is done for. Your best options are accelerating its demise or fleeing from the impending ruination.

Both.

 

[NEETAndTidy]

Yes in the sense that more men than ever before are waking up. But most normies are too delusional to realize it themselves

 

[MarriedAndLookin4Fun]

Yes, I think masculinity and western males are falling apart very quickly. Many statistics show that men are having less sex while women are having more sex than before. Introducing soy in baby food will turn the next generation into weak numales who will reject masculinity and become slaves for women. Plus the west has been hit very hard with feminism numerous times

The West is done for

Basically

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

I think they are coping in various ways despite being almost blackpilled with regards to THEIR chances but still seem very resilient in not letting go of concepts like women being blameless. have some anecdotes.

i know someone who's been looking divorce in the face for over 5 years and is finally thinking about pulling the trigger and getting rid of their cheating wife. what's their opinion about women/dating? they just don't think about it lol. focus on buying expensive clothes and audio equipment. no thinking, no problem. still a 'feminist' and plans to "cooperate" with his wife after the divorce i.e she will continue telling him what to do.

then there's a slightly-leftist hipster chadlite who's main thing is exuding positive energy wherever he goes and making tons of friends, he divorced a long time ago and recently told me "it's all the same thing, so why not?" when I tried to argue that escorts are degenerate and i don't want to get into that because i want LTR.
he's keeping up his positive man shtick for now, fueled by weed and escorts and occasional short term relationship well below his match. still spews feminist views from time to time since he's a leftist but not too much.

then there's a big bunch of losers in just as bad a situation as me or worse, like ruined teeth with no willpower left to get them painfully fixed, no willpower left to lose weight and stay at a normal weight, no job above retail level, nothing. these are the only guys open to acknowledging the blackpill including perspectives on women but even they are still preferring to keep avoiding the issue and running out the clock some more (stupid because it starts to become fucking over once you reach 30 pretty fast, in more ways than one)

 

[Solitarian_Walker]

Online dating and Tinder exposed the true nature of women and dating. Before you could cope by thinking that if you approach a lot of women you'll eventually find the one, but now you can see your chances with women and have your hopes crushed by simply swiping on Tinder.

 

[Mik_TFL]

it's called accepting reality, it's that simple

 

[BlackOpsIIcel]

In 2008.

"hahah, we're gonna be rich rockstars, get tons of pussy, make six figures out of college.

2018.

"fuck, can't even get a match on tinder. it's over."

Are you a 30 year old boomer? I also remember that 2008 feel. Everyone thought they where going to get rich. And acted rich a lot. Like walking around down town in a suit, lol.

 

[mike mentzer]

hope always sells.

theres always more suckers. Thats how scams fundamentally operate, exploiting the natural tendency of humans to think theres a rainbow just around the corner.

Online dating and Tinder exposed the true nature of women and dating. Before you could cope by thinking that if you approach a lot of women you'll eventually find the one, but now you can see your chances with women and have your hopes crushed by simply swiping on Tinder.

you're more likely to get a date by approaching women IRL than you are on tinder. srs. tinder has too much noise for these bitches brains to focus on one signal in a sea of dudes who look just like you.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Are you a 30 year old boomer? I also remember that 2008 feel. Everyone thought they where going to get rich. And acted rich a lot. Like walking around down town in a suit, lol.

Holy shit that graph is hilarious.

Very good way to track this over time I didn't think of.

 

[mike mentzer]

If you stepped outside the Internet incel bubble, the majority of men are still exactly like this:


Inceldom and MGTOW as movements or ways of thought are extremely rare; maybe a few people out of a university with thousands would even know what these terms mean, if that; there is a reason why this forum only has 200 active members, and 800 guests.

So yes @mylifeistrash, you are delusional.

200 active users is pretty big for a niche forum like this. 800 guests shows a lot of people are interested in what goes on here. The big secret about cucktears type people is many of them are secretly afraid the incels are right. Thats why they spend so much time trying to convince eachother they're wrong.

 

[excel]

I wouldn't say MOST yet, but definitely an incredible amount.

(((They))) even just made "Incel: The Movie" to try to capitalize on our current reality as men:



If Hollywood is trying to cash in on our pain you know we've reached massive awareness.

I always go back to this graphic because I think it tells us almost everything we need to know about the current dating situation:

Here is how this will go:

- Any race with >20% celibacy will inevitably have millions of men who realize it's completely over for them.
- It takes 2-3 years of celibacy for the average guy to realize he's an incel and not just "temporarily unlucky".
- For some, it may take yet another 2-3 years of coping with PUA, fashion, gym, etc before that guy realizes the blackpill.

Therefore we have already had a few years of Asian men trying to cope with reddits like "AsianMasculinity" to try to tell themselves Asian men can be attractive or that it's societal/Hollywood oppression holding them back, rather than objective physical attractiveness. And now most people seem to understand that's just delusion and the fact is Asians are just uglier to women. WMAF is a worldwide known joke now. Asian women are widely known to worship white men.

So we are reaching a point where a very large percent of Asians know they are pretty fucked.

As for whites/blacks, the stats don't favor their awakening yet. Blackcels will be the next big wave of incelibacy. Their numbers are rising fast. Blacks are also low inhib so they will have no hesitation to talk/post about it. We will see more Kents on Youtube.

I estimate critical mass for blacks by 2022.

Once the awareness has reached most Asian/Indian/Black men, many whites will pick up on it just by proximity. But whites won't reach >20% celibacy til 2025 at the earliest. They will be the last men standing.

This comment is totally on point and I can’t like it enough. Almost every Asian American dude I see is by himself coping while nearly every Asian American girl is actively chasing after white men. I’m not even Asian and I’m angry lol

 

[mylifeistrash]

Are you a 30 year old boomer? I also remember that 2008 feel. Everyone thought they where going to get rich. And acted rich a lot. Like walking around down town in a suit, lol.

yup, 30 years old exactly. i hated their arrogance and their "swagger" so fucking much. I hate mania and mass frenzy. It's the definition of low IQ.

 

[Izayacel]

No where near the majority is admitting defeat, and that will never be the case.

Just because you see MGTOW channels on YouTube and a load of people on this site doesn’t mean majority of men are admitting defeat, it means the men that are aware of female nature that admitted defeat.

Delusional for sure.

i like how mgtow trys so hard to pretend to not care,
but they cope bc their average - bad looking and or have no status/money to back them up

y womans are bad but they just could do short term relationshits and just break up,

i heard there are even suggar mommas, well thats alien to someone who is ugly anyways

 

[FiveFourManlet]

i like how mgtow trys so hard to pretend to not care,
but they cope bc their average - bad looking and or have no status/money to back them up

y womans are bad but they just could do short term relationshits and just break up,

i heard there are even suggar mommas, well thats alien to someone who is ugly anyways

i truly admire their cope.

 

[Void]

The west is going to get a hard wake up call in regard to economics and social areas. Once people realize that the bluepilled fairy tale bullshit that society says doesn't fucking work despite trying so hard.

More and more men are giving up I guess, the amount of relationships have been lowered, does this mean they have given up? I don't know but I hope the fucking world get its head turn over

 

[mylifeistrash]

I wouldn't say MOST yet, but definitely an incredible amount.

(((They))) even just made "Incel: The Movie" to try to capitalize on our current reality as men:



If Hollywood is trying to cash in on our pain you know we've reached massive awareness.

I always go back to this graphic because I think it tells us almost everything we need to know about the current dating situation:

Here is how this will go:

- Any race with >20% celibacy will inevitably have millions of men who realize it's completely over for them.
- It takes 2-3 years of celibacy for the average guy to realize he's an incel and not just "temporarily unlucky".
- For some, it may take yet another 2-3 years of coping with PUA, fashion, gym, etc before that guy realizes the blackpill.

Therefore we have already had a few years of Asian men trying to cope with reddits like "AsianMasculinity" to try to tell themselves Asian men can be attractive or that it's societal/Hollywood oppression holding them back, rather than objective physical attractiveness. And now most people seem to understand that's just delusion and the fact is Asians are just uglier to women. WMAF is a worldwide known joke now. Asian women are widely known to worship white men.

So we are reaching a point where a very large percent of Asians know they are pretty fucked.

As for whites/blacks, the stats don't favor their awakening yet. Blackcels will be the next big wave of incelibacy. Their numbers are rising fast. Blacks are also low inhib so they will have no hesitation to talk/post about it. We will see more Kents on Youtube.

I estimate critical mass for blacks by 2022.

Once the awareness has reached most Asian/Indian/Black men, many whites will pick up on it just by proximity. But whites won't reach >20% celibacy til 2025 at the earliest. They will be the last men standing.

it's white men (i'm white as well) who i want to see fall the most. they're the most cucked and soy with the constant female worship, 24/7, all the time. it's their religion.

it's satisfying seeing the thing they worship most, the point of their existence, brutally shit all over them and tell them they're complete genetic garbage.

 

[Izayacel]

it's white men (i'm white as well) who i want to see fall the most. they're the most cucked and soy with the constant female worship, 24/7, all the time. it's their religion.

it's satisfying seeing the thing they worship most, the point of their existence, brutally shit all over them and tell them they're complete genetic garbage.

enjoy

 

[Deleted member 1042]

200 active users is pretty big for a niche forum like this. 800 guests shows a lot of people are interested in what goes on here. The big secret about cucktears type people is many of them are secretly afraid the incels are right. Thats why they spend so much time trying to convince eachother they're wrong.

Exactly (re: cucks at inceltears). It’s like why I don’t bother with ppl on flat earther forums. When something is completely absurd to me, it doesn’t register that I should stick around.

 

[Anger]

Online dating and Tinder exposed the true nature of women and dating. Before you could cope by thinking that if you approach a lot of women you'll eventually find the one, but now you can see your chances with women and have your hopes crushed by simply swiping on Tinder.

this

 

[leftyincel]

The later is true. No matter how hard you try to cope it away, tinder is the absolute best measure of your human worth in 2018

hope you mean relative sexual worth

 

[BlackOpsIIcel]

yup, 30 years old exactly. i hated their arrogance and their "swagger" so fucking much. I hate mania and mass frenzy. It's the definition of low IQ.

It all feels like it was last year.