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AsiaCel

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Ah yes, the commie antifa nazi ISIS redpill incel terrorist

Ladies and gentlemen, we're all domestic terrorists
When is a terror attack not a terror attack? When the victims are women.

It would be hard not to draw this conclusion after recent horrific events in Sydney, Australia. On April 13, Joel Cauchi killed six people and stabbed 12 more, including a nine-month-old baby girl inside the Westfield Bondi Junction shopping centre. The vast majority of the victims were women. This was no coincidence, as we would quickly learn.

New South Wales police commissioner Karen Webb said: 'It's obvious to me and it's obvious to detectives that it seems to be an area of interest that the offender had focused on women and avoided the men.'

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese followed with an understatement Australian women could be forgiven for finding deeply insulting: 'The gender breakdown is, of course, concerning.' The attacker's father Andrew Cauchi even admitted his son may have targeted women was because 'he wanted a girlfriend... He's got no social skills and he was frustrated out of his brain.'

In spite of these clear acknowledgements, police immediately ruled out any connection to terrorism, saying: 'No information we have received, no evidence we've recovered, no intelligence that we have gathered... would suggest that this was driven by any particular motivation, ideology or otherwise.'

Yet, just two days later, a 16-year-old boy stabbed clergy members and members of the congregation at a Sydney church.

The very next day, police declared it a 'terrorist act' - defined by Australian police as an 'ideologically motivated' offence - with Albanese boldly speaking out against 'violent extremism' in the country. What must be concluded from this?

That deliberately killing women is not considered ideological or extremist. Tell that to the one in three women on the planet who are raped or beaten in their lifetime.

That statistic is not random chance. Ideology is defined as a set of ideas or beliefs of a group or an individual. What is misogyny, then, if not an ideology?

A belief system that has dominated patriarchal societies for thousands of years. Of course, the two cases were different. Both will have their own complexities and investigations are ongoing. I'm not suggesting they should be treated identically. I'm not even suggesting that the Bondi Junction attack should have been immediately declared a terrorist attack.

But I firmly believe the possibility should not have been so quickly and dismissively ruled out. By doing so, the authorities implied that the apparently deliberate targeting of women with fatal violence could not possibly be related to any 'ideology

This problem isn't unique to Australia. It's a much wider societal oversight. When women are murdered by men because they are women, we do not consider it to be a form of terrorism.

But we have no trouble quickly attaching that label to other kinds of ideologically-motivated attacks (particularly those not carried out by white men). You might wonder if the label really matters.

But the designation has a massive impact. It sends the message that this is something those in power care about enough to label it high priority. That they see it as serious.

Mass murders of women by men who have made misogynistic statements or been involved in extreme misogynistic communities online are far from rare.

But you probably haven't heard of most of them because motive is rarely mentioned. The perpetrators are not described as terrorists. The word extremism doesn't come up. In 2014,

Elliot Rodger murdered six people and injured 14 others in Santa Barbara, California. In a sickening manifesto, he wrote: 'I will destroy all women... I will attack the very girls who represent everything I hate in the female gender.' As part of the killing spree, he targeted the Alpha Phi sorority (a female society at a university) whose members he deemed the 'hottest' at his college, 'the kind of girls I've always desired but never been able to have'.

But police didn't designate it an extremist attack. Instead, the Santa Barbara County Sheriff described the shootings as 'the work of a madman', calling Rodger 'severely mentally disturbed'. Local media headlines didn't mention the misogynistic nature of the attack.

Rodger had been heavily involved in so-called 'incel' websites and forums: where men who consider themselves 'involuntarily celibate' blame women for denying them sex, and plot their 'revenge' in the form of physical and sexual violence. In 2021, Jake Davison carried out the first mass-shooting Britain had seen in a decade, killing five people and injuring two others in Plymouth, Devon.

Within 24 hours, police said they did not consider it a terrorist attack or linked to extremism. This is despite Davison being active in incel forums, uploading misogynistic rants about women online.

His mother had previously reported him to the Prevent anti-terror scheme. Days before the shooting, he'd searched online for incel serial killers. Remember the van attack of 2018 in Toronto, Canada, when a van was driven at pedestrians, killing ten people and injuring 16 others?

Even if you heard about the attack, you're unlikely to know that the majority of victims were women, or that perpetrator Alek Minassian told police he had been radicalised online and was acting in the name of 'incel ideology'. 'I was angry that [women] would give their love and affection to obnoxious brutes,' he said.

Minutes before he launched his deadly attack, he posted on Facebook: 'The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys [names incels use to describe attractive men and women]! All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!' Yet, authorities told the media: 'The driver's actions... appeared intentional, but did not seem to have been an act of terrorism.'

'The city is safe', declared the Toronto police chief. But how can a city be safe when its women are not? These are a handful of the countless examples. In such cases, killers are usually described as 'lone wolves', 'disturbed' and 'mentally ill'.

There may well be components of mental illness in many such cases, but it is wrong and damaging to suggest that this is the sole issue. Mental illness is rarely mentioned when discussing acts of Islamist terrorism, for example, even when it is present.

Millions of people globally experience mental illness without committing acts of violence. And though mental illness might make someone particularly vulnerable to malicious ideologies such as misogynistic extremism, it doesn't mean we should ignore the role those ideologies play in events.

Yes, we need to talk about treatment and support for mental illness, but we also need to reflect on the underlying societal issues that result in some 96 per cent of mass murderers being men.

We also need to confront the fact that around a hundred people in the past decade alone have been killed or seriously injured by men who have been influenced by extremist misogyny. We need to recognise hatred of women as a serious social problem and describe massacres found to have been explicitly carried out in its name as 'terrorism'.

The label is important because it gives investigators extra powers and makes specific actions available to them. It releases particular funds and enables officers to draw on special experts and influences the political action taken as a result.

Last week in Australia, the Premier of New South Wales, Chris Minns, announced a coronial inquest and government review to consider whether the Bondi Junction attack demonstrated a need to strengthen mental health support. He also ordered a review of the powers held by security guards.

But he didn't announce any investigation or action to be taken on misogyny and male violence against women. If the possibility of this being a misogynistic terror attack had remained on the table, that might have been different

How we describe and respond to tragic events like this matters. It reinforces that we consider it unacceptable in our society.

But, of course, that's part of the problem. Sexism and misogyny aren't unacceptable, or even unusual. Men murdering women is nothing new. It happens all the time. Once every three days, on average, in the UK alone.

How can we recognise misogyny as a form of extremism when it is all around us, all the time? When writing my book, Men Who Hate Women, which explores misogynistic online communities and their offline impact, I spent months undercover on incel forums. This week, I returned there to see the response to news of the Bondi Junction attack.

Here are some direct quotes from forum users. No doubt some readers may find them distressing - but they are important to acknowledge if we want to fully confront the dangers women face. 'So happy to know that he is incel motivated... as good as a sushi chef slicing down sushi rolls,' one user wrote.

'Men need women, if enough men don't have access to females they gonna show their anger in another form,' another said. 'He scored a pretty good blow with killing that Stacy...

I can't even feel bad she died.' And finally: 'Just watching and enjoying personally.' Until we recognise the role of online extremism in mainstreaming misogyny, forums like this will continue to thrive.

Vulnerable men will continue to be radicalised. And unless we realise that deliberately targeting women with violence is an act of terror and take action to prevent it, attacks like this will keep happening.

 
Women try not to make something about themselves - impossible challenge
 
Why they think that visiting an open forum is a some sort of achievement?
 
When is a terror attack not a terror attack? When the victims are women.
:feelsseriously:
I don't mind calling it a hate crime, but calling it a terror attack is just stupid.
 
There is no "incel revolution" in the sense of a unified political movement. In every case it is a personal vendetta. Women will support actual terrorists groups like Hamas but not the men they have driven to insanity through years of bullying and isolation.
 
Any opinion in the news is complete garbage. Anybody else agree?

At this point, I just want the facts truthfully. I'll make my own judgement about an incident.

It's a scary thought that I could be lynched by these 'people.' Then again, if that happened, I would hopefully be killed and escape this insane and unfair planet.
 
Any opinion in the news is complete garbage. Anybody else agree?

At this point, I just want the facts truthfully. I'll make my own judgement about an incident.

It's a scary thought that I could be lynched by these 'people.' Then again, if that happened, I would hopefully be killed and escape this insane and unfair planet.
They give awareness to the incele, it doesn't matter how they twist the facts. The message is clear - "there exists a group of bitter sexless men". For those who are dedicated enough, they will seek us out.

I was introduced to mgtow because feminists in socialist subs were shitting on them, which began my eventually journey to incel communities.
 
There is no "incel revolution" in the sense of a unified political movement. In every case it is a personal vendetta. Women will support actual terrorists groups like Hamas but not the men they have driven to insanity through years of bullying and isolation.
Beating women is based
 
Any opinion in the news is complete garbage. Anybody else agree?

At this point, I just want the facts truthfully. I'll make my own judgement about an incident.

It's a scary thought that I could be lynched by these 'people.' Then again, if that happened, I would hopefully be killed and escape this insane and unfair planet.
 
For those who are dedicated enough, they will seek us out.
A useful reminder honestly. Career suicide if you express 1% of the ideas you might find in the manosphere. The first thing an online lynch mob will do if try dox you and pressure your employer to fire you.

That type of person must be a woman, because they don't care about ideas and you hurt their feelings because they might have listened to / read things by you.
 
They give awareness to the incele, it doesn't matter how they twist the facts. The message is clear - "there exists a group of bitter sexless men". For those who are dedicated enough, they will seek us out.

I was introduced to mgtow because feminists in socialist subs were shitting on them, which began my eventually journey to incel communities.
What were they saying? Jfl
 
A useful reminder honestly. Career suicide if you express 1% of the ideas you might find in the manosphere. The first thing an online lynch mob will do if try dox you and pressure your employer to fire you.

That type of person must be a woman, because they don't care about ideas and you hurt their feelings because they might have listened to / read things by you.
Most of us don't express incel "ideas" in public. I don't tell people, especially not co workers, that I hate how the Jews control the world and that we need foids enslaved again
 
By Laura Bates For The Daily Mail, if anybody needs to know hER name for any reason...

Most of us don't express incel "ideas" in public. I don't tell people, especially not co workers, that I hate how the Jews control the world and that we need foids enslaved again
I've noticed the new gens do. The new incels need to experience the futility of any sort of incel activism first hand to keep it confined to this community.
 
but ending our genetic timeline is not a hatecrime?
 
Already saw this faggot foid
 
“Undercover” in a forum that literally anyone can view publicly. Guess they gotta make it sound like they’re doing something so they can get paid.
 
By Laura Bates For The Daily Mail, if anybody needs to know hER name for any reason...


I've noticed the new gens do. The new incels need to experience the futility of any sort of incel activism first hand to keep it confined to this community.
Yeah, it's a symptom of social decay. Also normies have hijacked our words like mewing and mogging. Even then, it just shows that the line between the average man, and incels, is thinning day by day.
 
There is no "incel revolution" in the sense of a unified political movement. In every case it is a personal vendetta. Women will support actual terrorists groups like Hamas but not the men they have driven to insanity through years of bullying and isolation.
 
{{{They}}} want to go down the Canada route and demonise the slayERs who rise up for the unrepresented incels.
 

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