Hypocrisy Why incels are the biggest feminists. [super triggering]

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

It'S NOT a comfortable fact. but its a fact nonetheless.

our literal name is IN-CELS. the unwanted leftovers of women in a few words.

our daily thoughts are consumed by women.
our complains are surrounded around women.
we cry bitch and moan all day about muh height, and muh hypergamy. how bunny teethed cindy rejected us in kindergarten. getting perfectly in the frame of toilets.

like they have made literal subreddits, mocking our cuckoldry and lack of masculinity and maturity (which is mostly genetic , so we cant do much about it).

like saying you are antifeminist as a sub5, and Genuinely mean it, you better go monk maxx in a cave, praying all day, with zero even nanosecond thoughts of foids ever again in your life. and not ever register citizenship or paying a single tax penny or contribute an amenity for toilets to be able to live in civilization. maximising their mating strategy with Chads and beta buxxers.

even wanting to career maxx or win the lottery is feminism. because the longterm dream is to get these resources so that A FOID can cosnume them from you.

even those who say are 10$ escortcels, are just paying for the foids' pimps' lifestyle. so that they can grow their harems on your cucked expense. (thus again serving the feminine mating imperative).

like even all those posts like "oh fry all foids in boiling canola oil they are so unjust, i hate em so much, boohoo", is all a pathetic display of us pouring planets worth of feelings on them, while the only feeling they know towards us, is indifference and disgust. there is no more cucked existence in the multiverse, than a self proclaimed incel, and i admit it as an old truecel. at least bluepillers live with some artificial dignity. thats the final blackpill for me. or one of.

To make it more clear because it seems we got many IQlets, men being the loving and emotional gender, BY DEFAULT is putting us in a cuckolding position. Even your desire to murder foids in minecraft that some of you have, is just untreated momma issues, and freudian twists of your deep love and desire to provide for foids after years of failure to fulfill your purpose. You can't escape your nature, as the toilets can't escape theirs. At least don't go around embarassing yourself further by stating you are antifeminist. when your title itself has WAHMAN REJECT and MUH HYPERGAMY VICTIM in it... .

 

[grimlockcel]

Speak for yourself

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Tldr lil bro

 

[Grodd]

Speak for yourself

 

[CRASH THE CUCK]

dnr

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

Tldr lil bro

iqlet issue

 

[St3v3Cel]

You are a genius. Amazing thread.

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

Speak for yourself

i literally did. but i still think it applies to all self identifying as incels

 

[DjentlemanDuke]

What is even this shit

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

You are a genius. Amazing thread.

facts dont care about our feelings, right?

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

What is even this shit

the brutal truth. inceldom is a sub-branch of feminism. (also a literal zero-threat to feminism politically etc. orthodox islam has more potential for that).

 

[Abgesang]

I think im still to mentally sane to understand this high iq post

 

[grimlockcel]

i literally did. but i still think it applies to all self identifying as incels

"I did speak for myself but also it applies to all of you"

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

"I did speak for myself but also it applies to all of you"

unless you have a foid tied with a chain in your kitchen (in minecraft), i think it applies to you too, yeah.

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

I think im still to mentally sane to understand this high iq post

good. keep it this way.

 

[St3v3Cel]

facts dont care about our feelings, right?

Threads like these show how many users here aren't genuine blackpillers, not to mention more neurotypical than they think. To dismiss an idea like this out of hand means that you have a very emotional reaction to the mere mention of the word "feminism", which is a giga-normie/NPC trait. The conclusion in this thread should make perfect logical sense to anyone who actually read it.

 

[grimlockcel]

So let me get this straight, you are attempting to say that us being incels means we are feminists, (feminist means to want equal rights for both genders) but being an incel simply means that we are just ugly and cant get sex from women.

How does this correlate at all, because all it seems you are saying in the post is that we are essentially obsessed with women and think about them all the time, but this just is not true for most of us..

Speaking for myself I dont make many posts about women nor do I think about them all day, rather its more just I will see some stupid post a woman made and make a post about it here or there. You pretend as if we are all stalkers who think about and visualize women in our heads ever second of our lives which is just completely and utterly ridiculous.

But even then, how does thinking about women make us a feminist?? Like how does that correlate at all.. Thats like if I said thinking about how much I hate Israel and jews all day makes me a zionist lol, like what are you even saying dude.

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

Threads like these show how many users here aren't genuine blackpillers, not to mention more neurotypical than they think. To dismiss an idea like this out of hand means that you have a very emotional reaction to the mere mention of the word "feminism", which is a giga-normie/NPC trait. The conclusion in this thread should make perfect logical sense to anyone who actually read it.

if anything you are the one with the NARROW idea of feminism. you make it be whatever it interests you to be, as long as you can save face and keep this false pretence antifeminist macho incel frankenstein archetype going.
also... me neurotypical? holy iqlet and mind blindedness.

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

So let me get this straight, you are attempting to say that us being incels means we are feminists, (feminist means to want equal rights for both genders) but being an incel simply means that we are just ugly and cant get sex from women.

How does this correlate at all, because all it seems you are saying in the post is that we are essentially obsessed with women and think about them all the time, but this just is not true for most of us..

Speaking for myself I dont make many posts about women nor do I think about them all day, rather its more just I will see some stupid post a woman made and make a post about it here or there. You pretend as if we are all stalkers who think about and visualize women in our heads ever second of our lives which is just completely and utterly ridiculous.

But even then, how does thinking about women make us a feminist?? Like how does that correlate at all.. Thats like if I said thinking about how much I hate Israel and jews all day makes me a zionist lol, like what are you even saying dude.

its a value proposition.
in ancient Rome, women were akin to objects. women couldnt make you an incel or hold rights, the same as a table can't enrage you in any rational way.
men pouring so many emotions on them and building entire sites for their frustrations is the equivalent of pajeetcels building the Taj Mahal for toilets.

 

[grimlockcel]

if anything you are the one with the NARROW idea of feminism. you make it be whatever it interests you to be, as long as you can save face and keep this false pretence antifeminist macho incel frankenstein archetype going.
also... me neurotypical? holy iqlet and mind blindedness.

Look how this nigga types, go back to shittok faggot

 

[autisticandugly]

i dont care for meaningless labels

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

i dont care for meaningless labels

yes, we care more for what we suffer. yet we label our condition.

 

[grimlockcel]

its a value proposition.
in ancient Rome, women were akin to objects. women couldnt make you an incel or hold rights, the same as a table can't enrage you in any rational way.
men pouring so many emotions on them and building entire sites for their frustrations is the equivalent of pajeetcels building the Taj Mahal for toilets.

You completely ignored my example of Jews and Zionism. I think about them a lot because of how much I despise them and how many examples are infront of my eyes for negative things they are responsible for. Does that make me a Zionist who supports Israel? Think about this, it is truly as simple as that.

None of us are feminists and we would delete feminism if given the chance to.

 

[St3v3Cel]

if anything you are the one with the NARROW idea of feminism. you make it be whatever it interests you to be, as long as you can save face and keep this false pretence antifeminist macho incel frankenstein archetype going.

I should have used the word "one" instead of "you" for this sentence:

To dismiss an idea like this out of hand means that you have a very emotional reaction to the mere mention of the word "feminism", which is a giga-normie/NPC trait.

I wasn't calling you out, I was calling out users who dismissed your thread which I would assume to be because it used the word "feminism". I am in full agreement with you in this thread.

also... me neurotypical? holy iqlet and mind blindedness.

I was calling the users who disagreed with/insantly dismissed/didn't actually read this thread neurotypical/NPCs/normies. Again, I agree with your thread and was trying to defend it. I should have formulated my reply better.

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

Look how this nigga types, go back to shittok faggot

cry harder mechafag

 

[grimlockcel]

cry harder mechafag

Nobody is crying, I can tell just with how you interact you aren't worth speaking to. Everything you say now I wont see because you are joining my ignore list shittok fag, I hope you get banned shortly for how idiotic this thread is.

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

You completely ignored my example of Jews and Zionism. I think about them a lot because of how much I despise them and how many examples are infront of my eyes for negative things they are responsible for. Does that make me a Zionist who supports Israel? Think about this, it is truly as simple as that.

None of us are feminists and we would delete feminism if given the chance to.

no you wouldn't my good lil sir. you absolutely wouldnt. because feminism aka capitalism gives you the welfare, half of us dysgenics are or will soon depend on. plus degen media entertainment. and whatever else makes you NOT wanna leave this normie infested soyciety.
also ask all normiecels here who ascended. they aint looking back. feminism is their way of life now.

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

Nobody is crying, I can tell just with how you interact you aren't worth speaking to. Everything you say now I wont see because you are joining my ignore list shittok fag, I hope you get banned shortly for how idiotic this thread is.

skill issue mr "lowest iq on is"

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

I should have used the word "one" instead of "you" for this sentence:

I wasn't calling you out, I was calling out users who dismissed your thread which I would assume to be because it used the word "feminism". I am in full agreement with you in this thread.

I was calling the users who disagreed with/insantly dismissed/didn't actually read this thread neurotypical/NPCs/normies. Again, I agree with your thread and was trying to defend it. I should have formulated my reply better.

based. and thanks.
i knew it would trigger many fags with anime pfps etc, but the OGs will get it.

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

As Stevecel said, only neurotypical NPCs and normies disagree with this thread. Because its too abstract for their stupid asses and they prefer to cope and hope about how misogynistic and macho they are... .

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

None of us are feminists and we would delete feminism if given the chance to.

No you wouldnt delete jack shit. Either from feminism or the epsteinian Juice you talk about.
Because they give you porn, they give welfare, they give you media consumption, give you liberalism and ldaring.
and because you dont have the testosterone to even shut down feminism in your immediate environment. If you did, you would already have a foid sucking your dick.

 

[St3v3Cel]

Nobody is crying, I can tell just with how you interact you aren't worth speaking to. Everything you say now I wont see because you are joining my ignore list shittok fag, I hope you get banned shortly for how idiotic this thread is.

He is not a "shittok fag". He is a truecel oldcel who seems to have experience in the few good redpill spaces that once existed, but are now long gone, or that is my impression at least (@FoidsEnshittifyAll correct me if I'm wrong). Those few redpill, MGTOW and MRA spaces are what the actual precursor to the intellectual side of the modern blackpill is, even though many users here who were users of sites like PUAHate like to downplay or deny that (@GeckoBus do you agree?). Modern blackpillers need to learn to be less emotional and actually foster genuine intellectual curiosity and honesty within themselves. Having a little humour and humility wouldn't hurt either.

 

[grimlockcel]

He is not a "shittok fag". He is a truecel oldcel who seems to have experience in the few good redpill spaces that once existed, but are now long gone, or that is my impression at least (@FoidsEnshittifyAll correct me if I'm wrong). Those few redpill, MGTOW and MRA spaces are what the actual precursor to the intellectual side of the modern blackpill is, even though many users here who were users of sites like PUAHate like to downplay or deny that (@GeckoBus do you agree?). Modern blackpillers need to learn to be less emotional and actually foster genuine intellectual curiosity and honesty within themselves. Having a little humour and humility wouldn't hurt either.

How do you agree with him on this at all

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

How do you agree with him on this at all

because its pure, hardcore, hyperlogical facts. show our forum and subreddit to any 80 yo man from the south. and listen to his opinion. if he dont call us the most feminist and effeminate, low T, jews-shoes-kissing crybabies in the universe, you can rocket my ass on the moon.

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

He is not a "shittok fag". He is a truecel oldcel who seems to have experience in the few good redpill spaces that once existed, but are now long gone, or that is my impression at least (@FoidsEnshittifyAll correct me if I'm wrong). Those few redpill, MGTOW and MRA spaces are what the actual precursor to the intellectual side of the modern blackpill is, even though many users here who were users of sites like PUAHate like to downplay or deny that (@GeckoBus do you agree?). Modern blackpillers need to learn to be less emotional and actually foster genuine intellectual curiosity and honesty within themselves. Having a little humour and humility wouldn't hurt either.

very eloquently said. good insight.

 

[grimlockcel]

He is not a "shittok fag". He is a truecel oldcel who seems to have experience in the few good redpill spaces that once existed, but are now long gone, or that is my impression at least (@FoidsEnshittifyAll correct me if I'm wrong). Those few redpill, MGTOW and MRA spaces are what the actual precursor to the intellectual side of the modern blackpill is, even though many users here who were users of sites like PUAHate like to downplay or deny that (@GeckoBus do you agree?). Modern blackpillers need to learn to be less emotional and actually foster genuine intellectual curiosity and honesty within themselves. Having a little humour and humility wouldn't hurt either.

This entire thread is low iq clickbait essentially. The title claims that we are feminists but everything that follows after that is not what defines feminism nor feminists, and is just a distorted version of it he made up. He is saying us giving attention to women means we are a feminist which as I said previously has no correlation and is not logically sound.

Secondly he is generalizing all of us into his own retarded mind, claiming all we do is think about women 24/7 or something.. Which is just not true for many of us.

The major flaw with this entire thread is the logical fallacy he commits off the bat being false equivalence fallacy. He claims like I said that we are feminists but then defines something that is not a feminist.

That is like if I said that you were black for saying you hate niggers and joining the KKK, and because I THINK you think about niggers all day when that is just not the case.

And once again, that does not match the definition nor the majorly agreed upon idea of feminism.

Also let's reverse the roles shall we? On IT there are tons of real women who can get a boyfriend any day of the week that post, hate on, and think about us incels for hours and hours, day to day... Does that mean that they support and would even claim themselves to be Incels?? No not at all, and in no reality is some dumb whore on IT an incel, the same way that none of us are feminists.

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

This entire thread is low iq clickbait essentially. The title claims that we are feminists but everything that follows after that is not what defines feminism nor feminists, and is just a distorted version of it he made up. He is saying us giving attention to women means we are a feminist which as I said previously has no correlation and is not logically sound.

Secondly he is generalizing all of us into his own retarded mind, claiming all we do is think about women 24/7 or something.. Which is just not true for many of us.

The major flaw with this entire thread is the logical fallacy he commits off the bat being false equivalence fallacy. He claims like I said that we are feminists but then defines something that is not a feminist.

That is like if I said that you were black for saying you hate niggers and joining the KKK, and because I THINK you think about niggers all day when that is just not the case.

And once again, that does not match the definition nor the majorly agreed upon idea of feminism.

Also let's reverse the roles shall we? On IT there are tons of real women who can get a boyfriend any day of the week that post, hate on, and think about us incels for hours and hours, day to day... Does that mean that they support and would even claim themselves to be Incels?? No not at all, and in no reality is some dumb whore on IT an incel, the same way that none of us are feminists.

You dont hate jack. You are REACTING to them. Which is an effeminate/ feministic move.

in fact, the very use of our subculture, as a funnel of male force AWAY from subduing foids, and into nihilism and depression and isolation, is EXACTLY a 100% win for feminism in the long ball.

 

[Esoteric7]

pajeetcels building the Taj Mahal for toilets.

WHITE toilets

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

WHITE toilets

yeah

 

[DeformedDysgenicCel]

dnr

 

[St3v3Cel]

How do you agree with him on this at all

I will go through this thread and explain how I interpret it:

Why incels are the biggest feminists. [super triggering]​

It'S NOT a comfortable fact. but its a fact nonetheless.

our literal name is IN-CELS. the unwanted leftovers of women in a few words.

our daily thoughts are consumed by women.
our complains are surrounded around women.
we cry bitch and moan all day about muh height, and muh hypergamy. how bunny teethed cindy rejected us in kindergarten. getting perfectly in the frame of toilets.

Here the basic premise of the thread is established. Let's begin with defining feminism. You said that to be a feminist is to "want equal rights for both genders" but I think that is a needlessly restrictive definition of what being a feminist is, and it's something that modern-day feminists clearly demonstrate they don't believe in with both their actions and their words. Modern-day feminists don't ask to be treated equally, they ask to be treated better than men (i.e. things like affirmative action/positive discrimination/equality of outcomes rather than actual equality, and of course even inequality of outcomes if women are on the winning side). Because of this I would personally define a feminist as someone who quite simply wants to benefit women in life as much as possible.

Now that we have this broader definition of what a feminist is we can begin to speculate on how incels might be benefitting women, or in other words how incels are effectively feminists. @FoidsEnshittifyAll is completely right to point out that the vast majority of the posts here are about involuntary celibacy, which is necessarily about women, and this obsession with women that all men have is what gave them the power to even put us in this position in the first place. Even posts speaking about general social dynamics between men or society in general also contributes to this, since the point of having a good standing in society is largely to get women, as is most anything in life when you think about it deeply enough, @FoidsEnshittifyAll explains this here:

even wanting to career maxx or win the lottery is feminism. because the longterm dream is to get these resources so that A FOID can cosnume them from you.

The very few posts that aren't so obviously about involuntary celibacy still get flagged by association, since there is no running from what the inspiration behind joining this site in the first place is (involuntary celibacy).

like they have made literal subreddits, mocking our cuckoldry and lack of masculinity and maturity (which is mostly genetic , so we cant do much about it).

like saying you are antifeminist as a sub5, and Genuinely mean it, you better go monk maxx in a cave, praying all day, with zero even nanosecond thoughts of foids ever again in your life. and not ever register citizenship or paying a single tax penny or contribute an amenity for toilets to be able to live in civilization. maximising their mating strategy with Chads and beta buxxers.

What @FoidsEnshittifyAll points out here is brutal but true, it would more dignified to not care and engage with this stuff from a theoretical point of view at all. Still, our behaviour makes sense from a biological point of view so we shouldn't beat ourselves up about it, and that is also something @FoidsEnshittifyAll mentions. Basically we are living quite harsh lives and unfortunately we can't help it, that is what the above points out (this is water of course, but essential water which everyone needs to acknowledge).

even those who say are 10$ escortcels, are just paying for the foids' pimps' lifestyle. so that they can grow their harems on your cucked expense. (thus again serving the feminine mating imperative).

This one should be pretty straightforward. @Ricecel Sungnodius famous signature largely shares the same viewpoint:

By paying whores, you're basically funding their lives. Funding it just because that whore has a pussy.

Escortmaxxing is feminism because it benefits women monetarily (and ego-wise and so on too really, since it is giga-foid worship).

like even all those posts like "oh fry all foids in boiling canola oil they are so unjust, i hate em so much, boohoo", is all a pathetic display of us pouring planets worth of feelings on them, while the only feeling they know towards us, is indifference and disgust. there is no more cucked existence in the multiverse, than a self proclaimed incel, and i admit it as an old truecel. at least bluepillers live with some artificial dignity. thats the final blackpill for me. or one of.

Again, ideally we wouldn't even have women on our minds, but we do. Having them on our minds and expressing it that strongly benefits women. Benefitting women is again essentially feminism.

To make it more clear because it seems we got many IQlets, men being the loving and emotional gender, BY DEFAULT is putting us in a cuckolding position. Even your desire to murder foids in minecraft that some of you have, is just untreated momma issues, and freudian twists of your deep love and desire to provide for foids after years of failure to fulfill your purpose. You can't escape your nature, as the toilets can't escape theirs. At least don't go around embarassing yourself further by stating you are antifeminist. when your title itself has WAHMAN REJECT and MUH HYPERGAMY VICTIM in it... .

In this addition he says that we shouldn't call ourselves antifeminists and I would agree, because that is humiliarting as we do benefit women by our actions here after all. I will give my own addition and say that we of course shouldn't outright call ourselves feminists either as that would be ridiculous, of course. This thread is just pointing out the reality of our situation and how brutal it is. I also want to point out that this thread was made in good faith, it is not some kind of "bait", trolling or incel-shaming thread in any way. I can see how it might seem that way if you don't appreciate the self-deprecating and crass way he presented his idea here though. Personally I liked and got a laugh out of it, I think it is humourous that we can accurately call ourselves feminists, even though we say we want to be the opposite of feminists and society describes us as the opposite of feminists.

I can also see how a thread like this might be a little difficult to decipher for users who are less schizo or less appreciative of this kind of humour on this site.

 

[grimlockcel]

I will go through this thread and explain how I interpret it:


Here the basic premise of the thread is established. Let's begin with defining feminism. You said that to be a feminist is to "want equal rights for both genders" but I think that is a needlessly restrictive definition of what being a feminist is, and it's something that modern-day feminists clearly demonstrate they don't believe in with both their actions and their words. Modern-day feminists don't ask to be treated equally, they ask to be treated better than men (i.e. things like affirmative action/positive discrimination/equality of outcomes rather than actual equality, and of course even inequality of outcomes if women are on the winning side). Because of this I would personally define a feminist as someone who quite simply wants to benefit women in life as much as possible.

Now that we have this broader definition of what a feminist is we can begin to speculate on how incels might be benefitting women, or in other words how incels are effectively feminists. @FoidsEnshittifyAll is completely right to point out that the vast majority of the posts here are about involuntary celibacy, which is necessarily about women, and this obsession with women that all men have is what gave them the power to even put us in this position in the first place. Even posts speaking about general social dynamics between men or society in general also contributes to this, since the point of having a good standing in society is largely to get women, as is most anything in life when you think about it deeply enough, @FoidsEnshittifyAll explains this here:

The very few posts that aren't so obviously about involuntary celibacy still get flagged by association, since there is no running from what the inspiration behind joining this site in the first place is (involuntary celibacy).

What @FoidsEnshittifyAll points out here is brutal but true, it would more dignified to not care and engage with this stuff from a theoretical point of view at all. Still, our behaviour makes sense from a biological point of view so we shouldn't beat ourselves up about it, and that is also something @FoidsEnshittifyAll mentions. Basically we are living quite harsh lives and unfortunately we can't help it, that is what the above points out (this is water of course, but essential water which everyone needs to acknowledge).

This one should be pretty straightforward. @Ricecel Sungnodius famous signature largely shares the same viewpoint:

Escortmaxxing is feminism because it benefits women monetarily (and ego-wise and so on too really, since it is giga-foid worship).

Again, ideally we wouldn't even have women on our minds, but we do. Having them on our minds and expressing it that strongly benefits women. Benefitting women is again essentially feminism.

In this addition he says that we shouldn't call ourselves antifeminists and I would agree, because that is humiliarting as we do benefit women by our actions here after all. I will give my own addition and say that we of course shouldn't outright call ourselves feminists either as that would be ridiculous, of course. This thread is just pointing out the reality of our situation and how brutal it is. I also want to point out that this thread was made in good faith, it is not some kind of "bait", trolling or incel-shaming thread in any way. I can see how it might seem that way if you don't appreciate the self-deprecating and crass way he presented his idea here though. Personally I liked and got a laugh out of it, I think it is humourous that we can accurately call ourselves feminists, even though we say we want to be the opposite of feminists and society describes us as the opposite of feminists.

I can also see how a thread like this might be a little difficult to decipher for users who are less schizo or less appreciative of this kind of humour on this site.

Dude you have just doubled down on what he did that was objectively incorrect and moved the goal posts past the defenitions... Proving my response to be the better out of the three

 

[grimlockcel]

I will go through this thread and explain how I interpret it:


Here the basic premise of the thread is established. Let's begin with defining feminism. You said that to be a feminist is to "want equal rights for both genders" but I think that is a needlessly restrictive definition of what being a feminist is, and it's something that modern-day feminists clearly demonstrate they don't believe in with both their actions and their words. Modern-day feminists don't ask to be treated equally, they ask to be treated better than men (i.e. things like affirmative action/positive discrimination/equality of outcomes rather than actual equality, and of course even inequality of outcomes if women are on the winning side). Because of this I would personally define a feminist as someone who quite simply wants to benefit women in life as much as possible.

Now that we have this broader definition of what a feminist is we can begin to speculate on how incels might be benefitting women, or in other words how incels are effectively feminists. @FoidsEnshittifyAll is completely right to point out that the vast majority of the posts here are about involuntary celibacy, which is necessarily about women, and this obsession with women that all men have is what gave them the power to even put us in this position in the first place. Even posts speaking about general social dynamics between men or society in general also contributes to this, since the point of having a good standing in society is largely to get women, as is most anything in life when you think about it deeply enough, @FoidsEnshittifyAll explains this here:

The very few posts that aren't so obviously about involuntary celibacy still get flagged by association, since there is no running from what the inspiration behind joining this site in the first place is (involuntary celibacy).

What @FoidsEnshittifyAll points out here is brutal but true, it would more dignified to not care and engage with this stuff from a theoretical point of view at all. Still, our behaviour makes sense from a biological point of view so we shouldn't beat ourselves up about it, and that is also something @FoidsEnshittifyAll mentions. Basically we are living quite harsh lives and unfortunately we can't help it, that is what the above points out (this is water of course, but essential water which everyone needs to acknowledge).

This one should be pretty straightforward. @Ricecel Sungnodius famous signature largely shares the same viewpoint:

Escortmaxxing is feminism because it benefits women monetarily (and ego-wise and so on too really, since it is giga-foid worship).

Again, ideally we wouldn't even have women on our minds, but we do. Having them on our minds and expressing it that strongly benefits women. Benefitting women is again essentially feminism.

In this addition he says that we shouldn't call ourselves antifeminists and I would agree, because that is humiliarting as we do benefit women by our actions here after all. I will give my own addition and say that we of course shouldn't outright call ourselves feminists either as that would be ridiculous, of course. This thread is just pointing out the reality of our situation and how brutal it is. I also want to point out that this thread was made in good faith, it is not some kind of "bait", trolling or incel-shaming thread in any way. I can see how it might seem that way if you don't appreciate the self-deprecating and crass way he presented his idea here though. Personally I liked and got a laugh out of it, I think it is humourous that we can accurately call ourselves feminists, even though we say we want to be the opposite of feminists and society describes us as the opposite of feminists.

I can also see how a thread like this might be a little difficult to decipher for users who are less schizo or less appreciative of this kind of humour on this site.

The biggest way we "contribute" to feminism, is when you say we escortmax, but this is one of the most controversial things on this site as a lot of us disagree with it, me included... So once again you guys are just assuming and generalizing a lot of us into a group of things then saying its all Inceldom as one..

So since the start when I said "Think for yourself" it has made its way into the debate all this way..

As for the rest of this you both are claiming something that some of us do or say is "humiliating" etc..

Once again, this is all just your subjective opinions.

 

[St3v3Cel]

Dude you have just doubled down on what he did that was objectively incorrect and moved the goal posts past the defenitions... Proving my response to be the better out of the three

You're getting too hung up on the definition of "feminist". Focus on the overall message, even if you don't agree with that definition.

The biggest way we "contribute" to feminism, is when you say we escortmax, but this is one of the most controversial things on this site as a lot of us disagree with it, me included... So once again you guys are just assuming and generalizing a lot of us into a group of things then saying its all Inceldom as one..

So since the start when I said "Think for yourself" it has made its way into the debate all this way..

As for the rest of this you both are claiming something that some of us do or say is "humiliating" etc..

Once again, this is all just your subjective opinions.

I think I made the case clear for how the very premise of this site benefits women, or at least says something brutal about how dependent our existence is on them. I expanded on this in another thread:

I do. All users who are honest with themselves would jump at an opportunity like this without even thinking twice. This hypothetical points out just how enslaved by women we are, and how most everything we do benefits them. Even if we were to successfully replace women with things like sex robots, artificial wombs and artificial eggs that still shows how dependent our existence is on them, and things would effectively be the same. How so many think they can run from this biological reality is a gigacope, and it would be better for us to acknowledge that. I would even go as far to say that most users here would jump at the chance to become betabuxx ITCucks if they were given the opportunity. Being a betabuxx ITCucks means that your life is worse objectively, but it lets you pretend to be normal, and getting to pretend to be normal is something most users here vastly underrate.

Either way, we can agree to disagree.

 

[grimlockcel]

You're getting too hung up on the definition of "feminist". Focus on the overall message, even if you don't agree with that definition.

I think I made the case clear for how the very premise of this site benefits women, or at least says something brutal about how dependent our existence is on them. I expanded on this in another thread:

What you guys are basically doing is the equivalence of when a foid says that any racist misogynistic man is an INCEL.

A feminist is someone who is pro women, someone who wants equal or more rights than the opposite gender etc.

Why would any of us want that?

"You contribute to it without realizing" Once again, you can speak for yourself, I am anti escorts, and many on this site are aswell.

And even if that is the case that we somehow do contribute to feminism it doesn't make you a feminist and this example is why I think that

Its like if I said this:

Women contribute to inceldom by being lookist etc, so does that mean they are pro inceldom? No.

But then again they contribute to it... they are the reason inceldom is becoming so widespread and popularized. Because men are becoming incels because of what they cause.

The same way you claim that we contribute to feminism or whatever...

 

[grimlockcel]

Either way, we can agree to disagree.

I think what you guys really mean to say but fail at is that incels simply live in a whore enabled society that benefits them mainly, not that we are feminists, because obviously we are the opposite, and thats if we go by the formal or even the goal post definitions you both went by.

And my point still stands that this was clickbait and horribly articulated.

And even then you both heavily relied on subjective takes rather than what is more grounded being that SOME incels HEAVILY, partake in feministic boosting behavior , but then again, that still doesnt mean we are feminists.

 

[St3v3Cel]

And even if that is the case that we somehow do contribute to feminism it doesn't make you a feminist and this example is why I think that

Like I said before, I don't think we should call ourselves feminists, I just think that it is humorous that we can call ourselves feminists when going by this definition. Besides, the message of this thread goes beyond defining what a feminist is anyways.

I think what you guys really mean to say but fail at is that incels simply live in a whore enabled society that benefits them mainly, not that we are feminists, because obviously we are the opposite, and thats if we go by the formal or even the goal post definitions you both went by.

That is not what we or at least I was saying. What I was saying is that our actions on this site and in life generally perpetuates our situation, and that this is brutal because it is pretty much inescapable.

And my point still stands that this was clickbait and horribly articulated.

To each their own, you don't have to like it.

And even then you both heavily relied on subjective takes rather than what is more grounded being that SOME incels HEAVILY, partake in feministic boosting behavior , but then again, that still doesnt mean we are feminists.

Again, the definition of feminist here is a bit tongue in cheek, and secondary to the message of this thread.

 

[grimlockcel]

Like I said before, I don't think we should call ourselves feminists, I just think that it is humorous that we can call ourselves feminists when going by this definition. Besides, the message of this thread goes beyond defining what a feminist is anyways.

That is not what we or at least I was saying. What I was saying is that our actions on this site and in life generally perpetuates our situation, and that this is brutal because it is pretty much inescapable.

To each their own, you don't have to like it.

Again, the definition of feminist here is a bit tongue in cheek, and secondary to the message of this thread.

Mate this is what I said

Like I said before, I don't think we should call ourselves feminists, I just think that it is humorous that we can call ourselves feminists when going by this definition. Besides, the message of this thread goes beyond defining what a feminist is anyways.

Exactly... So the title and main claim were clickbait, and now you're admitting the "feminists" label is just tongue-in-cheek and secondary. That's my point nigga.

That is not what we or at least I was saying. What I was saying is that our actions on this site and in life generally perpetuates our situation, and that this is brutal because it is pretty much inescapable.

Right. This is what I already said in my last reply though. You seem to have just repurposed it and added slightly more to it.

Again, the definition of feminist here is a bit tongue in cheek, and secondary to the message of this thread.

And all this is saying is that the thread was poorly made for real discussion hence why we are the only people discussing it... Nobody else cared because it sounded so retarded and it is.

But of course you guys just claimed anyone who didn't bother to read or engage in discussion was an "iqlet" which is a shittok term btw..

 

[grimlockcel]

Like I said before, I don't think we should call ourselves feminists, I just think that it is humorous that we can call ourselves feminists when going by this definition. Besides, the message of this thread goes beyond defining what a feminist is anyways.

That is not what we or at least I was saying. What I was saying is that our actions on this site and in life generally perpetuates our situation, and that this is brutal because it is pretty much inescapable.

To each their own, you don't have to like it.

Again, the definition of feminist here is a bit tongue in cheek, and secondary to the message of this thread.

And even without definitions my argument is still stands, just because SOME of us are dependent on or affected by a foid controlled environment doesn't mean we are in support or on their side or supportive of them.

It really is as simple as hating jews but purchasing from them still. He claimed I wouldnt delete feminism even if given the chance to which is the opposite of what I claimed and the way he argues that is just by self inserting his own opinions and assumptions that I buy escorts and rely on welfare or something?? Like what nigga? Both are just completely false.

So ONCE AGAIN, speak for yourselves dude.. I literally said that since the VERY start.

 

[St3v3Cel]

Exactly... So the title and main claim were clickbait, and now you're admitting the "feminists" label is just tongue-in-cheek and secondary. That's my point nigga.

I liked it personally, I don't know what more to say about it than that. Again, to each their own.

Right. This is what I already said in my last reply though. You seem to have just repurposed it and added slightly more to it.


And all this is saying is that the thread was poorly made for real discussion hence why we are the only people discussing it... Nobody else cared because it sounded so retarded and it is.

Most users never discuss anything in depth. I don't see how it mainly only being us two discussing this thread should decide whether it was good or not, because that is completely subjective and up to each individual in the thread to decide. In my opinion this was an interesting discussion.

But of course you guys just claimed anyone who didn't bother to read or engage in discussion was an "iqlet" which is a shittok term btw..

I suppose it would have been better to ask people what they didn't understand about this thread instead of calling them NPCs or low IQ for dismissing or disagreeing with it. I just found people's reactions disappointing, that's why I reacted the way I did.

And even without definitions my argument is still stands, just because SOME of us are dependent on or affected by a foid controlled environment doesn't mean we are in support or on their side or supportive of them.

It really is as simple as hating jews but purchasing from them still. He claimed I wouldnt delete feminism even if given the chance to which is the opposite of what I claimed and the way he argues that is just by self inserting his own opinions and assumptions that I buy escorts and rely on welfare or something?? Like what nigga? Both are just completely false.

This is acknowledged in the thread:

like they have made literal subreddits, mocking our cuckoldry and lack of masculinity and maturity (which is mostly genetic , so we cant do much about it).

And I explained it in my first reply too:

What @

@FoidsEnshittifyAll points out here is brutal but true, it would more dignified to not care and engage with this stuff from a theoretical point of view at all. Still, our behaviour makes sense from a biological point of view so we shouldn't beat ourselves up about it, and that is also something @

@FoidsEnshittifyAll mentions. Basically we are living quite harsh lives and unfortunately we can't help it, that is what the above points out (this is water of course, but essential water which everyone needs to acknowledge).

Again, ideally we wouldn't even have women on our minds, but we do.

So ONCE AGAIN, speak for yourselves dude.. I literally said that since the VERY start.

I don't see what there is to add. I have already addressed this:

I will give my own addition and say that we of course shouldn't outright call ourselves feminists either as that would be ridiculous, of course. This thread is just pointing out the reality of our situation and how brutal it is.

Personally I liked and got a laugh out of it, I think it is humourous that we can accurately call ourselves feminists, even though we say we want to be the opposite of feminists and society describes us as the opposite of feminists.

Like I said before, I don't think we should call ourselves feminists, I just think that it is humorous that we can call ourselves feminists when going by this definition. Besides, the message of this thread goes beyond defining what a feminist is anyways.

Again, the definition of feminist here is a bit tongue in cheek, and secondary to the message of this thread.