Discussion Were you or are you a Wehraboo?

[Excalibur]

1. (Internet slang, derogatory) A person who is obsessed with or romanticises the Wehrmacht

I was one of those who believed that objectively speaking they were the best army of the Second World War. After actually studying WW2, I realized that the Wehrmacht was in fact very flawed and did not have the best equipment or leadership throughout the war. Nevertheless, I still hold them in high regard even though I no longer have the same idealized and childish view of them as I did before.

 

[Horatio Ludwiczek]

I am impressed by their tactical innovations and professionalism

The main flaw was lackluster economic mobilization, which wasn't the Wehrmacht's fault

 

[FastBlast]

did not have the best equipment

Really? I am not a history nerd but I thought they had superior tanks and planes

 

[weaselbomber]

back when i was 14 that shit went hard

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Was both a wehraboo and tankie

 

[proudweeb]

I was one of those who believed that objectively speaking they were the best army of the Second World War. After actually studying WW2, I realized that the Wehrmacht was in fact very flawed and did not have the best equipment or leadership throughout the war. Nevertheless, I still hold them in high regard even though I no longer have the same idealized and childish view of them as I did before.

IMO they did have the best equipment and (tactical) leadership of the war, but the severely low quantity of equipment and particularly OIL compared to their opponents completely doomed them. There was no way to win against the massive number of opponents they had, no matter what they did

 

[AutistSupremacist]

I'm sure you remember that one edit from quarantine era with flashing images and battles

 

[proudweeb]

Was both a wehraboo and tankie

same here at the same damn time lol. When I was 14 I was edgy and liked alternative history

 

[Excalibur]

superior tanks and planes

The Germans were great innovators and had great designs early into the war, but were outclassed towards in the end. Their late war tanks and planes were on paper the best or at least highly advanced, but they had terrible reliability and/or were introduced too late into the war to make a difference.

 

[Excalibur]

The Germans were great innovators and had great designs early into the war, but were outclassed towards in the end. Their late war tanks and planes were on paper the best or at least highly advanced, but they had terrible reliability and/or were introduced too late into the war to make a difference.

So basically throughout the war, they mainly relied on equipped that was mediocre or even subpar by international standards.

 

[Excalibur]

The main flaw was lackluster economic mobilization, which wasn't the Wehrmacht's fault

Hitler and the NSDAP did the best they could considering the circumstances imo. Especially when you consider that some such as Schacht within Hitler's early regime were against a military first policy and wanted to focus on the civilian economy.

 

[Horatio Ludwiczek]

Hitler and the NSDAP did the best they could considering the circumstances imo. Especially when you consider that some such as Schacht within Hitler's early regime were against a military first policy and wanted to focus on the civilian economy.

I'm admittedly not well read on the historian's debate about the causes of economic under mobilization, whether it was solely caused by organizational chaos, blitzkrieg strategy, or a premature clash with the allies before the completion of economic rationalization to suit the needs of a protracted war

But this was a fascinating article

View of Did Raw Material Shortages Decide World War Two? New Data for the Example of Nazi Rubber Supplies

www.ebhsoc.org

 

[Excalibur]

I'm admittedly not well read on the historian's debate about the causes of economic under mobilization, whether it was solely caused by organizational chaos, blitzkrieg strategy, or a premature clash with the allies before the completion of economic rationalization to suit the needs of a protracted war

But this was a fascinating article

View of Did Raw Material Shortages Decide World War Two? New Data for the Example of Nazi Rubber Supplies

www.ebhsoc.org

I'll make sure to read the article.

I know that Hitler actually planned to start World War II in the mid 1940s and wanted to focus mainly on economic growth and regional expansion in the 1930s and early 40s. But by 1939, he realized that the German economy, with its over dependence on MEFO bills, would not last much longer and needed a war to survive. Therefore, he was forced to invade Poland earlier than planned and provoke a war with the major powers.

 

[Horatio Ludwiczek]

I'll make sure to read the article.

I know that Hitler actually planned to start World War II in the mid 1940s and wanted to focus mainly on economic growth and regional expansion in the 1930s and early 40s. But by 1939, he realized that the German economy, with its over dependence on MEFO bills, would not last much longer and needed a war to survive. Therefore, he was forced to invade Poland earlier than planned and provoke a war with the major powers.

Thank you brocel

Can you provide me a couple sources for me to read as well?

 

[Excalibur]

Can you provide me a couple sources for me to read as well?

Hitler's plans for WW2 in 1937:

The Avalon Project : Hossbach Memorandum

On MEFO bills and their fragility:

Chapter 6: Germany in the Interbellum: Camouflaging Sovereign Debt

Abstract Mark De Broeck anD HarolD JaMes

www.elibrary.imf.org

 

[Horatio Ludwiczek]

Hitler's plans for WW2 in 1937:

The Avalon Project : Hossbach Memorandum

On MEFO bills and their fragility:

Chapter 6: Germany in the Interbellum: Camouflaging Sovereign Debt

Abstract Mark De Broeck anD HarolD JaMes

www.elibrary.imf.org

Thank you

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

No but I love Hitler

 

[AsiaCel]

I was a Sovietboo.
Their weapons are decent but not good on a large scale. for example the stg44 was not mass produced

 

[Skelly]

 

[Skelly]

How did you guys possibly think the germans were superior if they lost?

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

How did you guys possibly think the germans were superior if they lost?

The axis was actually a minority of casualties in WW2 and when it comes to soviets vs Germans specifically, German military casualties were much lower. The soviets simply outnumbered them. In equal numbers they would've wiped the floor. It's like one boxer vs five guys

 

[Excalibur]

How did you guys possibly think the germans were superior if they lost?

They essentially fought against the entire industrialized world.

 

[gluttony]

I wonder how many Tojoboos there are, but knowing Japan's size compared to the US there was no chance for them even if they had won key battles like Midway or sank the carriers at Pearl.

Pure and simple attrition would eventually just wear them out.

 

[gluttony]

The axis was actually a minority of casualties in WW2 and when it comes to soviets vs Germans specifically, German military casualties were much lower. The soviets simply outnumbered them. In equal numbers they would've wiped the floor. It's like one boxer vs five guys

The Germans fell the same way Napoleon had did, because WINTER existed and then their advances stalled.

 

[Deleted Member 8090]

The Germans fell the same way Napoleon had did, because WINTER existed and then their advances stalled.

Nah they just had the wrong division templates and needed to do their military focuses sooner

 

[gluttony]

Nah they just had the wrong division templates and needed to do their military focuses sooner

hoi4

 

[Forum Hero]

I was early on the wehraboo trend.

 

[SilentShadow]

Was both a wehraboo and tankie

 

[poorenglishcel]

Who what wtf?

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

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