Serious The way being incel paradoxically increases your standards

[Eunuch]

Ever since I've realized that involuntary celibacy is likely going to be lifelong, ironically it made my standards go up, especially with respect to body

back in my early days of puberty I was blue pilled and even once I found out about the black pill, I still thought I would be able to get an ugly girl by money maxing. During this time I would try to spit game at ugly girls and get rejected brutally. Fat ones, ugly ones, didn't matter I still got rejected.


I now consider the morbidly obese foids to be sexual nonentities but this isn't to say I'm secretly volcel considering that I would 100% date a reasonably fat girl. Having said that, my standards have sort of distilled to be slightly more discriminating based on face and much more discriminating based on body. I also don't let ugly women get away with stuff IRL in the same way that I used to, because in my blue pilled days I used to consider them allies and now I consider them to be (generally) the enemy since they will gaslight you about lookism to protect their own egos.

The reddit stereotype of incels wanting Stacies is obviously bullshit, but I would say I'm about 25th percentile looks facially and my body is pretty average and I "secretly" wouldn't feel attracted to a girl much below that anymore.

 

[Nicusor_delaBraila]

Cope it till you make it

 

[Bulbasaur]

It's easy proclaim standards in vacuum. It's easy to say "virgin gigastacy only", if no woman will have you anyway. You are never presented with a real life scenario where you might be tempted to compromise on your standards.

 

[T. Normanno]

As far as I remember I always wanted a virgin. Non-virgins disgust me too much to have sex with them, they turn me off like if I bumped into some invisible barrier. The only thing that changed throughout the years is that now I am highly suspicious of women who declare themselves virgins too, there are unfortunately many ways to slut around while keeping the hymen fraudulently intact.
Also virgin or not the problem is women don't add anything meaningful to our lives, only costant worries and emotional distress. At this point (I'm soon hitting 29) I recognize that having a cute warm supportive gf would have made my twenties much nicer and smoother but those years are gone now. I'm a grown ass man and women were never there for me during my formational years, when I needed the feminine touch the most. I genuinely feel betrayed/abandoned and I don't think it would be easy to get over it. There's no way I can put up with your average girl's bullshit like normal functional men do. Because I am the one who is full of bullshit and hurt.

 

[Eunuch]

Because I am the one who is full of bullshit and hurt.

That's what Reddit wants you to believe, in reality you are a warrior who has faced something worse than slavery and genocide combined

 

[Eunuch]

It's easy proclaim standards in vacuum. It's easy to say "virgin gigastacy only", if no woman will have you anyway. You are never presented with a real life scenario where you might be tempted to compromise on your standards.

True but not really my point, wildebeest tier foids used to make my dick hard when I'd have obligatory interactions with them for school and shit irl and now they don't

 

[T. Normanno]

That's what Reddit wants you to believe, in reality you are a warrior who has faced something worse than slavery and genocide combined

Reddit would push for "therapy" aka brainwashing. Me on the other hand, I will never pretend or tell ex incels to pretend the pain we have felt was deserved, self-induced or wasn't real. I hope I get a job next year and perhaps a date from tinder or elsewhere (it would be my first ever). I am overflowing with bitterness and I want to share it with a woman, I want to suffucate her with my negativity. I want the date to fail spectacularly by my will and by my will alone. This is about self-determination.

 

[Caichan]

Cope it till you make it

 

[Hikicripple]

Water

 

[Eunuch]

Water

not rly, there's nuance between what I'm saying and the Reddit trope that incels only want virgin Stacys

imo you should absolutely feel entitled to your looks match

 

[VanGobbel]

its just cope tbh. You pretend to have higher standards to cope with being rejected by society. In reality, majority of people on this forum would jump at the opportunity to have sex with any foid if they actually get it offered.

 

[Blacksmith]

its just cope tbh. You pretend to have higher standards to cope with being rejected by society. In reality, majority of people on this forum would jump at the opportunity to have sex with any foid if they actually get it offered.

I do not agree here. For me, being a chubby chaser and not attracted to slim women is sometimes a hidden super power. I have had scenarios were supposedly good looking women have used their looks and flirty body language to manipulate me into some specific action or response. (Not interested in me as a person, just as a problem solver.)

They have seemed confused when I am not eyeballing them, reacting to their pandering or inviting body language. Especially when you simply turn down or ignore their request.

So yes, I recognise that we can use our insights to at least not making our lives even worse or more painful.

 

[MRHK_57]

Us being more self-aware than bluepillers and ITcucks is not something that surprising.