Blackpill The "Self Control" Contradiction Of NoFap

[BlkPillPres]

This is how a lot of my arguments go with nofappers and its always hilarious to watch them BS themselves into a corner

Me: "Why do you do it"
Nofapper: "Its about self control and training myself to resist urges"
Me: "How many times did you usually masturbate"
Nofapper: "5+ times, I needed to stop because I was feeling drained" (Its always a high number, like 3+ times per day)
Me: "Why don't you just masturbate once a day, it would not affect your energy levels then, of course that many times takes a toll"
Nofapper: "I can't do that, I know I'll end up doing it more if I do it even once"
Me: "Oh so your feat of achieving self control with nofap, is avoiding a scenario in which you lack self control, makes perfect sense"
Nofapper: "............................."

If you get a nofapper to switch over to their "self control" argument, you can easily bait them into this corner because most of them fail to see this logical flaw, you'll also notice that a lot of nofappers ironically lack self control, and often when asked, masturbate more than your average person, hence the energy drain they always talk about, and for some reason they never think to attribute it to overexertion rather than to masturbation itself

 

[TheLegendofBentCock]

nofap is pretty boring tbh. That shit goes in a cycle, you're body naturally goes into a state of nofap after awhile.

 

[Michael15651]

What’s up with all these nofapper threads today? I was gone 24 hours and come back to see this

 

[AutisticCopecel]

i just really what to know if nofap cures ED

 

[BlkPillPres]

What’s up with all these nofapper threads today? I was gone 24 hours and come back to see this

JFL, I think its something that has to be cast out of inceldom no different than trap faggotry.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

Everyone lacks self control to varying degrees. The point isn't to necessarily overcome it, the point is to not subjegate yourself to scenarios wherein your urges and impulses is as unlikely as possible to control your behavior. Getting addicted to fapping seems like an easy way of letting yourself be controlled by your animalistic needs.

 

[Deleted member 15752]

What’s up with all these nofapper threads today? I was gone 24 hours and come back to see this

No fap is a big big cope lmao.

Why deprive yourself of such a nice and relaxing cope?

 

[Michael15651]

No fap is a big big cope lmao.

Why deprive yourself of such a nice and relaxing cope?

I can agree with this. I see absolutely no benefits with nofap. There’s even proven health benefits that support otherwise.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Everyone lacks self control to varying degrees. The point isn't to necessarily overcome it, the point is to not subjegate yourself to scenarios wherein your urges and impulses is as unlikely as possible to control your behavior. Getting addicted to fapping seems like an easy way of letting yourself be controlled by your animalistic needs.

You aren't seeing the contradiction,nofap in of itself is a lack of self control, self control is the regulation of ones urges, not the rejection and avoidance of them. Nofappers ironically lack more self control than fappers. Practically every nofapper I've ever talked to is someone who says they used to masturbate like 4+ times per day, and they had to abandon the practice period to stop, that shows they lack the self control to simply regulate and do it only once per day.

A man who drinks 1 or 2 beers a day has self control, a man who became an alcoholic, used to drink multiple shots of vodka daily till he was in a drunken stupor, and today avoids bars and drinking events, does not have self control (quite obviously), he has to avoid temptation, self control is resisting temptation, not avoiding it, nofappers have somehow warped the definition in their minds.

 

[GameDevCel]

whatever i can't pass one day no fapping

 

[Deleted member 15752]

I can agree with this. I see absolutely no benefits with nofap. There’s even proven health benefits that support otherwise.

I agree. Its like a "natural high" some may say. But its true that it should be done in moderation.. like all things.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

No fap is a big big cope lmao.

Why deprive yourself of such a nice and relaxing cope?

I don't get it either, it's pointless, and for me it's counterproductive to the supposed goal. Since I'm not addicted to fapping, all nofap accomplishes is making me want to fap more, not less, since it's letting my urges go on long enough unsatisfied to the point where I get frustrated. There is no benefit if you're not someone who faps multiple times per day, and I don't even fap daily.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

You aren't seeing the contradiction,nofap in of itself is a lack of self control, self control is the regulation of ones urges, not the rejection and avoidance of them. Nofappers ironically lack more self control than fappers. Practically every nofapper I've ever talked to is someone who says they used to masturbate like 4+ times per day, and they had to abandon the practice period to stop, that shows they lack the self control to simply regulate and do it only once per day.

A man who drinks 1 or 2 beers a day has self control, a man who became an alcoholic, used to drink multiple shots of vodka daily till he was in a drunken stupor, and today avoids bars and drinking events, does not have self control (quite obviously), he has to avoid temptation, self control is resisting temptation, not avoiding it, nofappers have somehow warped the definition in their minds.

I see the supposed contradiction, but as I said, avoiding conditions in which your self control is comprimised could be considered a form of self control in it of itself. Avoiding doing coke out of fear of becoming addicted, to take an example. It's a less direct form of self control but still equally valid in my view. It's a definitional thing

 

[BlkPillPres]

avoiding conditions in which your self control is compromised could be considered a form of self control in it of itself.

avoiding conditions in which your pain levels are tested could be considered a form of pain resistance in it of itself

JFL oh yeah makes perfect sense.

Avoiding doing coke out of fear of becoming addicted, to take an example. It's a less direct form of self control but still equally valid in my view

1. No it is by definition not self control, because you are not RESISTING THE CONTROL OF ANYTHING, the stimuli which would have functioned as the CONTROL has yet to be introduced to you, in order for you to RESIST it.

Listen, what you are saying is completely devoid of logic, Its the logical equivalent of saying - "not starting fires, by default makes me a fire fighter, and is a testament to my fire fighting skills"

No, a fire fighter FIGHTS FIRES, you can't go against something that has yet to exist, you can't control yourself against a force you have yet to come under, this is common sense, you are saying complete BS right now, its ridiculous, you must be a coping nofapper.

2. Your final statement reeks of this BS concept of - "personal truths" when you say "equally valid IN MY VIEW", there is no such thing as "personal truths", something is either true or it isn't, were either right or wrong. Anybody who is unwilling to assert they are right, and wants to take the "agree to disagree" stance has indicated that they are arguing disingenuously and don't actually care if what they believe is true or not, they don't care about actually being right, they just want to keep doing/saying it.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

1. No it is by definition not self control, because you are not RESISTING THE CONTROL OF ANYTHING, the stimuli which would have functioned as the CONTROL has yet to be introduced to you, in order for you to RESIST it.

Of course you are. Do you think nofappers are eunuchs that feel zero urge to fap?

JFL oh yeah makes perfect sense.

I agree with this part

Listen, what you are saying is completely devoid of logic, Its the logical equivalent of saying - "not starting fires, by default makes me a fire fighter, and is a testament to my fire fighting skills"

No, a fire fighter FIGHTS FIRES, you can't go against something that has yet to exist, you can't control yourself against a force you have yet to come under, this is common sense, you are saying complete BS right now, its ridiculous, you must be a coping nofapper.

See what I said in the first segment of this post.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Of course you are. Do you think nofappers are eunuchs that feel zero urge to fap?

1. Pretty much all of them talk about it as though after the first few months the urges basically fade away, so yeah, they have pretty much cucked themselves through great effort, also I've even seen some nofappers talk about chemical castraction and considering it, another aspect of nofap culture that revolves ironically running away from chances to test your self control.

2. I don't think alcoholics feel zero urge to drink, my point is the initial urge is just the drive to commit the act, it isn't the actual controlling force that pulls you to do it profusely, hence why alcoholics avoid alcohol, that isn't a sign of self control, its a sign that they lack self control, because most people can drink and not ever do it, they are the ones whose self control is weak, everyone else can drink and stop themselves.

 

[Cuyen]

i just really what to know if nofap cures ED

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

This is how a lot of my arguments go with nofappers and its always hilarious to watch them BS themselves into a corner

Me: "Why do you do it"
Nofapper: "Its about self control and training myself to resist urges"
Me: "How many times did you usually masturbate"
Nofapper: "5+ times, I needed to stop because I was feeling drained" (Its always a high number, like 3+ times per day)
Me: "Why don't you just masturbate once a day, it would not affect your energy levels then, of course that many times takes a toll"
Nofapper: "I can't do that, I know I'll end up doing it more if I do it even once"
Me: "Oh so your feat of achieving self control with nofap, is avoiding a scenario in which you lack self control, makes perfect sense"
Nofapper: "............................."

If you get a nofapper to switch over to their "self control" argument, you can easily bait them into this corner because most of them fail to see this logical flaw, you'll also notice that a lot of nofappers ironically lack self control, and often when asked, masturbate more than your average person, hence the energy drain they always talk about, and for some reason they never think to attribute it to overexertion rather than to masturbation itself

Actually I have never heard that, it's obviously harder to go full cold turkey than to fap once a day.

 

[johnnyb]

the only point of nofap is if you are trying to obtain spiritual purity (closeness to Allah) and to be above the degeneracy of the world.

 

[BlkPillPres]

the only point of nofap is if you are trying to obtain spiritual purity (closeness to Allah) and to be above the degeneracy of the world.

1. So the point is pointless BS then JFL

2. So long as you are a biological creature, with biological limitations, you will never be above the degeneracy of the world, degeneracy is inherent to such an existence.

3. That's what getting a wife is for, why are you not "religionmaxxing"

A. Are you learning/already know arabic?
B. Are you becoming/already are a muslim?
C. Are you involving yourself with muslims?
D. Do you live in/plan to live in a muslim community?
E. Are you currently in/plan on moving to a musllim country?

If you answer is no for A to D, then what the fuck are you talking about you retard, keeping your hands off of your dick, doesn't making you closer to spiritual purity, that isn't enough, you aren't steeped in the faith enough, you are just creating excuses for your pointless cope.

Actually I have never heard that, it's obviously harder to go full cold turkey than to fap once a day.

1. You have never heard what specifically?

2. Its only harder to go cold turkey at the start, even nofappers attest to basically killing their own libido, and after enough months of nofap the urges basically no longer exist. The same as with an addiction to coke, you have to go cold turkey to get rid of it, because its seen as an "addiction", but that's because it is very addicting and its a foreign substance to your body, but for people who masturbate can you really call it an "addiction" and treat it like a drug, when the urge is wired into your biological imperatives, and the substance on which you get "high" on is inside your own body.

Our body uses dopamine for various mundane things, when you eat good tasting food you get a dopamine spike, when you exercise you get it, when you are well rested from sleep you get it, etc, etc, etc. So if we treat dopamine as a "drug", and we claim that utilize that internal resource is a form of "addiction". Then that stretches the definition to the point where ALL HUMANS ARE BY DEFAULT ADDICTS.

Because we all eat good tasting foods because it makes us "feel good", almost every biological function we carry out has an associated "pleasure response" as a form of positive reinforcement. Were all pretty much chasing the natural "biological high" our bodies supply us with, even entertainment generates a dopamine spike.

But so far every nofapper I have spoken too told me they masturbated more than the average man does, I usually do it once a day, the average I hear from nofappers is 3 times a day, and then they profess to some magical energy boost that comes coincidentally after they stop overexerting themselves, if they'd have just went down to once a day they'd have the same energy.

 

[Bakura806]

honestly no fap saves me a lot of time instead of thinking a sexual experiences I will never have I can watch more anime or play more video games

 

[456C6C696F74]

You aren't seeing the contradiction,nofap in of itself is a lack of self control, self control is the regulation of ones urges, not the rejection and avoidance of them. Nofappers ironically lack more self control than fappers. Practically every nofapper I've ever talked to is someone who says they used to masturbate like 4+ times per day, and they had to abandon the practice period to stop, that shows they lack the self control to simply regulate and do it only once per day.

A man who drinks 1 or 2 beers a day has self control, a man who became an alcoholic, used to drink multiple shots of vodka daily till he was in a drunken stupor, and today avoids bars and drinking events, does not have self control (quite obviously), he has to avoid temptation, self control is resisting temptation, not avoiding it, nofappers have somehow warped the definition in their minds.

Either way, moderation and abstinence are both valid solutions.

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

1. You have never heard what specifically?

2. Its only harder to go cold turkey at the start, even nofappers attest to basically killing their own libido, and after enough months of nofap the urges basically no longer exist. The same as with an addiction to coke, you have to go cold turkey to get rid of it, because its seen as an "addiction", but that's because it is very addicting and its a foreign substance to your body, but for people who masturbate can you really call it an "addiction" and treat it like a drug, when the urge is wired into your biological imperatives, and the substance on which you get "high" on is inside your own body.

Our body uses dopamine for various mundane things, when you eat good tasting food you get a dopamine spike, when you exercise you get it, when you are well rested from sleep you get it, etc, etc, etc. So if we treat dopamine as a "drug", and we claim that utilize that internal resource is a form of "addiction". Then that stretches the definition to the point where ALL HUMANS ARE BY DEFAULT ADDICTS.

Because we all eat good tasting foods because it makes us "feel good", almost every biological function we carry out has an associated "pleasure response" as a form of positive reinforcement. Were all pretty much chasing the natural "biological high" our bodies supply us with, even entertainment generates a dopamine spike.

But so far every nofapper I have spoken too told me they masturbated more than the average man does, I usually do it once a day, the average I hear from nofappers is 3 times a day, and then they profess to some magical energy boost that comes coincidentally after they stop overexerting themselves, if they'd have just went down to once a day they'd have the same energy.

I have never heard that nofappers refuse to just reduce their masturbation because it's "too hard" as opposed to giving completely, and that most of them faps 3+ times a day sounds too much as well, I can buy that they frequent more than the average man but not that much.

To masturbate frequently to porn is not what the body intended to do, it's supposed to get you to have sex with a woman and that's what the goal of all your urges and dopamine kicks is. When you're abusing your system like that it could very well be treated as a drug. That the urges ceases to exist after months is kinda useless since 99.9% of people that goes for it never gets to that point, even if you manage to reduce your fap to once a day from twice that's still a huge improvement, think of it as an alcoholic that reduces his alcohol intake by half.

 

[johnnyb]

1. So the point is pointless BS then JFL

2. So long as you are a biological creature, with biological limitations, you will never be above the degeneracy of the world, degeneracy is inherent to such an existence.

3. That's what getting a wife is for, why are you not "religionmaxxing"

A. Are you learning/already know arabic?
B. Are you becoming/already are a muslim?
C. Are you involving yourself with muslims?
D. Do you live in/plan to live in a muslim community?
E. Are you currently in/plan on moving to a musllim country?

If you answer is no for A to D, then what the fuck are you talking about you retard, keeping your hands off of your dick, doesn't making you closer to spiritual purity, that isn't enough, you aren't steeped in the faith enough, you are just creating excuses for your pointless cope.

scum. you will be one of those who are cast into torment, along with your degenerate swine brethren you so wish to become like.

 

[BlkPillPres]

honestly no fap saves me a lot of time instead of thinking a sexual experiences I will never have I can watch more anime or play more video games

It takes like 15 to 30 minutes out of your life per day, what the hell are the even talking about, that's a single anime episode. Some of you aren't even thinking these arguments through before you make them, its like some kind of auto pilot NPC cope mode.

Also nice cope, I'd bet money that I think about sex less than you do because I'm sexually satisfied, unless you're just Low T, if you aren't getting a sexual release then sex is practically always on your mind all day, sex is only on my mind once a day, when I get the urge, I satisfy the urge, and that's the end of it for the rest of the day, so you aren't making any sense.

I have never heard that nofappers refuse to just reduce their masturbation because it's "too hard" as opposed to giving completely

Well that's what I have heard, and even if you didn't hear it, that's the implication of them deciding to drop masturbation completely rather than just do it once a day. Again I refer back to the alcoholic example, people who join AA dude to an alcohol addiction, get chips of achievement based on how long they've been sober, which means they usually stop drinking completely, they don't judge their improvement based on how well they can regulate their urges and if they can drink and stop themselves, they judge their improvement ironically based on how long they avoided that weakness rather than overcoming it.

Just as acoholics have to avoid all alcohol because they lack the self control to do it in moderation, in that same sense its obvious that nofappers are doing the same thing, the implication of someone avoiding the use of a substance in its entirety, that they used to be addicted to, is that they know they can't show restraint and do it in moderation. So even without nofappers attesting to what I claim if you were being honest you could easily reason that is at least the implication of their actions.

To masturbate frequently to porn is not what the body intended to do, it's supposed to get you to have sex with a woman. When you're abusing your system like that it could very well be treated as a drug.

1. Exactly, which is why I said this, and I've always believed this:
https://incels.is/threads/what-nofap-should-actually-be-passive-nofap.108846/

There is only one condition under which I would say nofap is a logical choice, and that's for a male who is trying to "ascend" and actually has a chance at doing so, that's the only reason to do it to get rid of any ED you may have in relation to porn, but if you aren't going to be having sex with women and you know its over for you, there is literally no reason not to masturbate, its like a man on death row denying himself his last meal and final words.

If you're an incel, and you aren't going to be having sex, there's no reason to sexually starve yourself as though it has an "intended purpose" or you have an "end goal", nofapping incels are complete idiots, they are sexually starving themselves for no reason at all, that's completely illogical.

2. Then doesn't that rule apply to modern day sex regardless, because to ejaculate into a condom is not what the body intended to do, each ejaculation is intended as an impregnation, so aren't people who are having sex in these modern times also guilty of "abusing" the system of our bodies. Isn't that what humans do regardless in everything we do, that's what makes us different to other animals, were not supposed to be farming animals, were supposed to be hunting and gathering, and now we have problems like obesity because we are "abusing" systems and subverting nature, what are you only arbitarily applying this concept to masturbation, it applies to sex too, it applies to everything.

If we were to take your logic to its logical conclusion, than even if I stopped masturbating, and I got a woman to have sex with, In order to remain logically consistent I would have to impregnate her else I'd still be "abusing" the system of my body to attain pleasure.

You guys aren't being logical here, you aren't thinking your arguments through, you are just blurting out the first thing that comes to your mind, but if you thought it through you'd see how flawed it is, and how right I am.

scum. you will be one of those who are cast into torment, along with your degenerate swine brethren you so wish to become like.

JFL please stop larping, I can tell you are just some troll now because an actually religious person would have addressed the points I made. KYS I hate people who come to this site just to troll, go to 4chan please.

 

[Deleted member 16608]

nofap is a joke. did it for four months straight. it's more humiliating to be horny af to where you start approaching and realizing you're an ugly piece of shit. so then you go home and wanna jack off but you cope and say no boyo you gotta be strong willed. any sort of benefit you get from it won't land you a girl. hell, it won't land a job, gainzz, any of that shit. better off taking T.

the more this shit becomes mainstream, the closer porn becomes illegal. one of the few copes low value men have will be taken away because pussy.

I will say this though: porn can lead to a downward spiral where you watch sicker and sicker shit. Probably healthier and less degenerate to JO in your bed with imaginary thoughts. I hate myself every time I jerk it. If it's 2d I just get reminded I'm jerking to a dude's drawing. If I watch meat, I'm getting cucked everytime and I might as well jerk off in the corner watching couples. ITS ALL FCUKED

 

[Anoncel123]

nofap is a joke. did it for four months straight. it's more humiliating to be horny af to where you start approaching and realizing you're an ugly piece of shit. so then you go home and wanna jack off but you cope and say no boyo you gotta be strong willed. any sort of benefit you get from it won't land you a girl. hell, it won't land a job, gainzz, any of that shit. better off taking T.

 

[Adversor]

Fapping no longer provides me with any real pleasure but I keep doing it because I don't want to get prostate cancer. Fapping actually depresses me because it's just a meager substitute for what my mind really needs: physical contact with a female who desires me.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I will say this though: porn can lead to a downward spiral where you watch sicker and sicker shit.

True but when you think about it how is it any different than sex, do you think people who have sex and are in a committed long term relationship, are having the same "vanilla" sex with each other forever and that's enough, your mind builds up a tolerance for stimuli period, with masturbation and sex, this is why people try "new positions", this is why couples end up "trying anal", all couples eventually end up progressing to "sicker" shit, the only difference is that with sex there are more limitations than with porn, both have limitations, but sex has more limitations.

For example with porn I can watch black women, asian women, then I might go to threesomes, then I'd move on to DP's, then I'd move on to full on gangbangs at some point it gets rougher and sicker, but I'm never going to end up watching gay porn, there are limitations because the fetishes one chooses to watch is based on their sexual proclivities, with sex there are limitations, and even more so beacuse both partners have to be comfortable with a fetish to engage in it.

Probably healthier and less degenerate to JO in your bed with imaginary thoughts.

I can only pull this off after a minimum of 3 days not masturbating, you have to be really horny for this to work, but if you have a consistent supply of quality sexual stimuli that isn't going to be enough.

I hate myself every time I jerk it.

Why, I never get this, but I notice this mindset is rooted in "nofap theory", it truly is deeprooted in the practice to hate your own sexuality, especially if its satisifed "the wrong way", nofap is inherently about pedestalizing women, because I always notice nofappers make this weird mental exception to sex.

If a man goes 100 days without masturbation and he jerks off ONCE on day 101 he has failed, should feel disgusted with himself and has to start over

If a man goes 100 days without masturbating and he has sex with multiple women in the same day he'll get congratulated by his nofap peers, and his count remains the same, and ironically he doesn't see the contradiction in claiming that masturbation results in these huge energy losses that impacts his biological functions, but having sex did nothing to his energy

Its all mental, its all a placebo, and that' why I have to be against no fap, because I've notice its about female worship, its about pedestalizing women, making women the gate keepers of men's happiness, no fap is one of the most female empowering cucked practices ever.

Go ahead and ask any nofapper about this and you'll see that they all have this weird contradictory exception, and they all never account for the energy loss of sex, relative to the energy loss from masturbation, they all give eachother that pass, because its NOT ABOUT SELF CONTROL, NO FAP IS ABOUT EGOISM, AND STAKING YOUR EGO ON BEING ABLE TO ATTAIN FEMALE VALIDATION, ITS ABOUT MEN PUNISHING THEMSELVES FOR NOT ATTAINING FEMALE VALIDATION AND GIVING POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT TO EACH OTHER WHEN WE DO

NO FAP IS REALLY ABOUT FEMALE VALIDATION AND PEDESTALIZING WOMEN, its not really about men when you look at it, if you masturbate (ejaculate) once you've killed your streak, if you had instead had a four some and ejaculated four times these fucking idiots MAGICALLY FORGET ABOUT THEIR "ENERGY LOSS PRINCIPLE" AND THAT GUY GETS A PASS and can continue his streak uninterrupted, its about FEMALE VALIDATION, NOT SELF CONTROL. These guys are coping, and they really just hate themselves for not being able to attain female validation, and nofap is a means of self punishment so that they can rationalize that self hatred, nofap is like PENANCE FOR MEN WHO FEEL LIKE THEY'VE COMMITTED A SIN BY BEING UNDESIRED BY WOMEN.

Its some deep psychological shit involved with nofap, don't fall for the surface level BS of "self control" and "more energy", because if they were logically consistent then they wouldn't be trying to ascend then, because you'd have even less energy if you were having sex regularly.

 

[micropenis29]

2. So long as you are a biological creature, with biological limitations, you will never be above the degeneracy of the world, degeneracy is inherent to such an existence.

This is the key point. Nofappers hand-wave away the fact that they always want to fap (That is, assuming they have a healthy libido).

Denying this natural desire 100% of the time is ridiculous.

Sure, there are times where it makes sense to deny it, such as when you're in public or in the presence of others. But when you're alone, it makes sense to just give in to the urge.

 

[Deleted member 60]

olw IQ

I normally only fap once a week and there's endless benefits to abstaining. Literally life changing, you should try it sometime or olw IQ.

i just really what to know if nofap cures ED

no, but fapping excessively can cause it and also destroys ur dick in general

 

[AutisticCopecel]

no, but fapping excessively can cause it and also destroys ur dick in general

idk i dont even fap a lot in my case (((pills))) are the problem but i cant stop taking them so i guess nofap could improve my situation a little maybe?

 

[Deleted member 60]

idk i dont even fap a lot in my case (((pills))) are the problem but i cant stop taking them so i guess nofap could improve my situation a little maybe?

nothing will improve ur situation. Its over 4 u
srs tho, read my thread on jew pills

 

[BlkPillPres]

olw IQ

What?

I normally only fap once a week and there's endless benefits to abstaining.

endless benefits
doesn't bother listing a few

Please list some, I guarantee you its some placebo BS, because all those people having sex seem to be doing fine. Again what comes up is what I always point out about nofappers, the mental disconnect between recognizing that ejaculation from sex, is no different than ejaculation from masturbation:

If ejaculation from masturbation causes an energy loss, then ejaculation from sex causes even more of a energy loss because it is more physically exerting, if ejaculation from masturbation causes "brain fog", then ejaculation from sex causes even more "brain fog" because it is more physically exerting. You guys don't seem to get the huge logical flaw in what you believe, anything that masturbation causes (physically) sex should cause an ever greater version of that "symptom". (other than ED, since ED is about not being aroused during sex).

Literally life changing, you should try it sometime or olw IQ.

I already went 3 days without porn and then my libido returned, you idiots are literally at war with your own body.

I made a thread about this even - https://incels.is/threads/what-nofap-should-actually-be-passive-nofap.108846/

Nofap should be "passive", it should be something that naturally happens, not something forced

and also destroys ur dick in general

Not everybody is fapping with a death grip lol.

 

[YungCell]

nofap is pretty boring tbh. That shit goes in a cycle, you're body naturally goes into a state of nofap after awhile.

Very true. Especially if you fap on weed or something and then stop smoking, it absolutely kills the urge to fap.