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Blackpill The "Monster Study" and why childhood experiences have a massive impact on one's self-image

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While our detractors are eager to shift the blame on us for possessing "negative attitudes" they never bother to ask themselves from whence this shift in demeanor came. After all, every child born unto this world starts of as a blank slate. No-one wakes up one day and decides "I am going to live the remainder of my life wallowing in bitterness and self-pity."

Enter, the so-called "Monster Study."

For those who this was an unethical experiment conducted at the Iowa Soldiers' Orphans' Home by American psychologist Wendell Johnson in 1939.


The primary goal behind this was to determine whether or not having a stutter stems from genetic factors, of if this is simply a learned behavior. To achieve this, non-stuttering children were subjected to constant negative reinforcement by researchers, being told that they were stuttering even though they were, in fact, not.

So how does that relate to inceldom, you may ask? Well... As a result of the "Monster Study" all of the orphan children involved developed life-long mental and emotional scars, to a point where many of them ceased to speak entirely.

This sort of phenomenon is one all of us here have experience during our formative years.
In my youth, the thought of being "ugly" or "retarded" never crossed my mind. In fact, I was extremely positive and generally friendly towards my peers, both male and female. However, the human mind is effectively a tree—one that can either be nurtured and allowed to grow, or be swiftly cut down before it has an opportunity to. Every hit with the axe—in this case, every cruel word and action taken against me, effectively chipped away at my soul until all that remained was what you now see before you today.

How am I at fault for despising women? I was only 11 years old when I was being "asked out" as a joke for the mere crime of existing. The very fact that someone (in this case, myself), who was raised by a single mother to be a "gentleman," turned out this way only shows just how awful the average female is.

How am I at my fault for seeing myself as ugly? That is what I've been taught my entire life. How do you propose I love myself when even before I adopted my current beliefs, not one woman has ever showed a hint of interest in me. All I've ever received was mockery and scorn.

"How do you expect to attract a girl when you're so insecure and angry?" means NOTHING when "Every path leads to failure" is one if the first lessons you've learned. Only a genuine fool would repeatedly place their hand atop a burning grill and expect a different result each time they do so.

Society now laments that I became a monster, only after it had already convinced me that I am one.
 
Normies always talk about how we have a "negative" attitude as if it's even possible to be positive when our entire lives we've been ridiculed and insulted for things out of our control.
 
Must Read tier thread.
Monsters aren't born, they are MADE. Society MADE us monsters. It's your fault why we're here.
Plus ITards: Touch this. Come on. I fucking dare you.
 
many of them ceased to speak entirely.
I remember when I was a kid/teenager, I never spoke, I could go whole days without saying a word. I only spoke a few words when someone asked me a question.
 
Normies always talk about how we have a "negative" attitude as if it's even possible to be positive when our entire lives we've been ridiculed and insulted for things out of our control.
:yes:
Normies, if you want to change us, it starts with YOU.
 
Normies always talk about how we have a "negative" attitude as if it's even possible to be positive when our entire lives we've been ridiculed and insulted for things out of our control.
Exactly.

Perhaps our attitudes would be better if we experienced some kind of positive reinforcement? You cannot expect someone to turn out normal when all they've come to expect is a boot stamping their face over and over again.
 
I remember when I was a kid/teenager, I never spoke, I could go whole days without saying a word. I only spoke a few words when someone asked me a question.
I used to be far more outgoing as a kid, but I've become almost selectively mute since entering puberty. I've reached the conculsion that it is better for me not to speak at all than to be seen as a "weirdo" by everyone.
 
@24K Link @proudweeb @Dick Spade @TheGrayWolf @Ryo_Hazuki

I nominate this thread for Must-Read Content. This is I feel one of the most important blackpills. Society hates us, then blames us for what they did to us.
It's all so tiresome.
 
Plus ITards: Touch this. Come on. I fucking dare you.
They only touch the most obvious bait threads. Any argument with a degree of intelligence, they immediately ignore.

The ONE time they acknowledge the Must-Read section of this forum, they did not even read anything besides the thread titles.
 
Incel Tears isn't even worth touching. Avoid the entourage of clowns. They're about as funny & creative as Chat GPT can come up with. Soft landings for fuckin fools. No smiling & laughing this month.
After all, April is Feminine.
Laughter without context, creativity nor morality is exclusively feminine.
April Fucking Fools.
 
They only touch the most obvious bait threads. Any argument with a degree of intelligence, they immediately ignore.

The ONE time they acknowledge the Must-Read section of this forum, they did not even read anything besides the thread titles.
:yes:
They go for the lowest hanging fruit. They're too pussy to touch the real shit.
 
Incel Tears isn't even worth touching. Avoid the entourage of clowns. They're about as funny & creative as Chat GPT can come up with. Soft landings for fuckin fools. No smiling & laughing this month.
After all, April is Feminine.
Laughter without context, creativity nor morality is exclusively feminine.
April Fucking Fools.
We should honestly try to limit the ammount of attention we grant IT. As with every kind of parasite, depriving them of their food source is the only way they die.
 
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Unattractive men have been subjected to negative reinforcements (bullying, exclusion etc.) due to their appearance since birth and consequently is locked out of one of the many things life has to offer and society wonders why said men are demotivated and angry.
 
We should honestly try to limit the ammount of attention we grant IT. As with every kind of parasite, starving is the only way they die.

I made a point based on this. I didn't use the word "parasite" more like "machine." But in this case, it is like both.
A parasite needs a host to feed off their vital energies, like a machine needs fuel from some source. But parasites can be beneficial. Machines can be beneficial. Parasites sometimes have brains. Machines have neither brain nor heart.
So whatever IncelTears is, should always be ignored. Fanatical weirdos exempt from any self-manufactured dissent.

Less creative than Clowns, less inventive than Machines, & even less useful than Parasites.

IncelTears, The Truth is the strongest argument. Your self manufactured facts, false witness & half blind anecdotes, are a fucking joke.
 
Must Read tier thread.
Monsters aren't born, they are MADE. Society MADE us monsters. It's your fault why we're here.
Plus ITards: Touch this. Come on. I fucking dare you.
True, monsters are made. I was treated like shit by a society that has the nerve to expect something of me; I say fuck society I will do things strategically for my benefit.
 
consequently is locked out of one of the many things life has to offer
Truthnuke. To an unattractive is, life is just constant exclusion.

When you are a child, you are excluded when no-one wants to play with you during recess nor sit next to you during class. As an adult, you are excluded from sex, romance, partying with friends, etc.

You are, for all intents and purposes, an eternal spectator.
 
Worse than rape
Every raped foid I've encountered has been able to lead a fairly normal life afterwards. They still have friends, romantic and sexual relationships, etc.

Meanwhile, my experiences have resulted in me living as an isolated hermit for almost an entire decade.
 
Normies always talk about how we have a "negative" attitude as if it's even possible to be positive when our entire lives we've been ridiculed and insulted for things out of our control.
I had a friend in college who kept trying to tell me about the "law of attraction". I'm not trying to shit on the dude, but he's basically the kind of guy that hops from girl to girl and cheats on them with no issue. Some of these people genuinely believe mindset means something. In our situation we had good attitudes and then society decided to treat us like monsters just by existing. Our consciousness is merely a reflection of the outer world we experienced.
 
Normies always talk about how we have a "negative" attitude as if it's even possible to be positive when our entire lives we've been ridiculed and insulted for things out of our control.
"But it's just your mindset bro :feelsclown: "
 
we've been ridiculed and insulted for things out of our control.
They are the same ones who did those things to us.
 
I remember when I was a kid/teenager, I never spoke, I could go whole days without saying a word. I only spoke a few words when someone asked me a question.
Yeah I'm like that as an adult too. Can go months without saying a word. When I was in 8th grade it was so bad that I had selective mutism and refused to speak even when other kids spoke to me, but I did speak when teachers spoke to me (I think I was afraid of getting in trouble if I didn't speak to teachers). At home with my mom I was completely normal and would talk though.
 
I used to be far more outgoing as a kid, but I've become almost selectively mute since entering puberty. I've reached the conculsion that it is better for me not to speak at all than to be seen as a "weirdo" by everyone.
My thing was that in junior high I was ignored by people at school, which was painful and lonely. I reached the point early in 8th grade where I thought "If people don't want to speak to me, then I won't speak to them" and became selectively mute like I described in the post above.

I guess I felt like it's better to be noticed and made fun of by everyone for not talking than to be ignored like I don't exist.
 
Yeah I'm like that as an adult too. Can go months without saying a word. When I was in 8th grade it was so bad that I had selective mutism and refused to speak even when other kids spoke to me, but I did speak when teachers spoke to me (I think I was afraid of getting in trouble if I didn't speak to teachers). At home with my mom I was completely normal and would talk though.
I used to do be like this too. It got so bad that at middleschool kids noticed that whenever i ignored them i was shaking and trembling horribly (i was scared of them making fun of me and escalating to violence) and the mockery only got worse. At some point i just learned to mimic normie speech patterns and managed to go through life like a ghost
 
Solid read, thanks bro
 
Unattractive men have been subjected to negative reinforcements (bullying, exclusion etc.) due to their appearance since birth and consequently is locked out of one of the many things life has to offer and society wonders why said men are demotivated and angry.
 
While our detractors are eager to shift the blame on us for possessing "negative attitudes" they never bother to ask themselves from whence this shift in demeanor came. After all, every child born unto this world starts of as a blank slate. No-one wakes up one day and decides "I am going to live the remainder of my life wallowing in bitterness and self-pity."

Enter, the so-called "Monster Study."

For those who this was an unethical experiment conducted at the Iowa Soldiers' Orphans' Home by American psychologist Wendell Johnson in 1939.


The primary goal behind this was to determine whether or not having a stutter stems from genetic factors, of if this is simply a learned behavior. To achieve this, non-stuttering children were subjected to constant negative reinforcement by researchers, being told that they were stuttering even though they were, in fact, not.

So how does that relate to inceldom, you may ask? Well... As a result of the "Monster Study" all of the orphan children involved developed life-long mental and emotional scars, to a point where many of them ceased to speak entirely.

This sort of phenomenon is one all of us here have experience during our formative years.
In my youth, the thought of being "ugly" or "retarded" never crossed my mind. In fact, I was extremely positive and generally friendly towards my peers, both male and female. However, the human mind is effectively a tree—one that can either be nurtured and allowed to grow, or be swiftly cut down before it has an opportunity to. Every hit with the axe—in this case, every cruel word and action taken against me, effectively chipped away at my soul until all that remained was what you now see before you today.

How am I at fault for despising women? I was only 11 years old when I was being "asked out" as a joke for the mere crime of existing. The very fact that someone (in this case, myself), who was raised by a single mother to be a "gentleman," turned out this way only shows just how awful the average female is.

How am I at my fault for seeing myself as ugly? That is what I've been taught my entire life. How do you propose I love myself when even before I adopted my current beliefs, not one woman has ever showed a hint of interest in me. All I've ever received was mockery and scorn.

"How do you expect to attract a girl when you're so insecure and angry?" means NOTHING when "Every path leads to failure" is one if the first lessons you've learned. Only a genuine fool would repeatedly place their hand atop a burning grill and expect a different result each time they do so.

Society now laments that I became a monster, only after it had already convinced me that I am one.
You should learn about black sheep.
 
I nominate this thread for Must-Read Content. This is I feel one of the most important blackpills. Society hates us, then blames us for what they did to us.
It's all so tiresome.
 
Normies always talk about how we have a "negative" attitude as if it's even possible to be positive when our entire lives we've been ridiculed and insulted for things out of our control.
And they will use this same argument to protect cheating women, it only shows how demoralized our society is.
 
I used to stutter a lot as a kid. I stutter less now :feelsbadman:
 
@24K Link @proudweeb @Dick Spade @TheGrayWolf @Ryo_Hazuki

I nominate this thread for Must-Read Content. This is I feel one of the most important blackpills. Society hates us, then blames us for what they did to us.
It's all so tiresome.
+1

I am fully demoralized. I wish I wasn't, but I am. I have faint memories of my childhood self, always curious and enthusiastic

the school system only worsens this. there is no achievement to be had and there is no endgame. I just play vidya and goon, that's the only happiness I've ever had
 
Normies always talk about how we have a "negative" attitude as if it's even possible to be positive when our entire lives we've been ridiculed and insulted for things out of our control.
"just get back to the past and rewire your genes and memories reeee"
some normietard propably... .
 
Very relatable. I wasn't always this way, myself. I remember being a cocky and playful kid who enjoyed making people laugh. Decades of bullying and rejection has turned me into an anxious, bitter loner with no means of connecting with people. Society has molded us into being bitter and jaded people.

Normies always talk about how we have a "negative" attitude as if it's even possible to be positive when our entire lives we've been ridiculed and insulted for things out of our control.
Normies bully and torment us for years, and then they have the gall to attack us for being traumatised and angry. :feelsclown:
 
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I was only 11 years old when I was being "asked out" as a joke for the mere crime of existing.
Extremely cruel form of bullying. Happened to me as well. The fact that normies feel the need to rub it in just how low they find a truecel to be on the totem pole like that is just evil. The worst thing is commonly believed normies never stop doing this kind of stuff, they just get less overt about it. By adulthood most normies are experts at finding ways to rag on truecels with plausible deniability.
 
+1

I am fully demoralized. I wish I wasn't, but I am. I have faint memories of my childhood self, always curious and enthusiastic

the school system only worsens this. there is no achievement to be had and there is no endgame. I just play vidya and goon, that's the only happiness I've ever had
"Demoralized" is an excellent description. With no lifeline in sight, all of us have sunk to the bottom.
 
While our detractors are eager to shift the blame on us for possessing "negative attitudes" they never bother to ask themselves from whence this shift in demeanor came. After all, every child born unto this world starts of as a blank slate. No-one wakes up one day and decides "I am going to live the remainder of my life wallowing in bitterness and self-pity."

Enter, the so-called "Monster Study."

For those who this was an unethical experiment conducted at the Iowa Soldiers' Orphans' Home by American psychologist Wendell Johnson in 1939.


The primary goal behind this was to determine whether or not having a stutter stems from genetic factors, of if this is simply a learned behavior. To achieve this, non-stuttering children were subjected to constant negative reinforcement by researchers, being told that they were stuttering even though they were, in fact, not.

So how does that relate to inceldom, you may ask? Well... As a result of the "Monster Study" all of the orphan children involved developed life-long mental and emotional scars, to a point where many of them ceased to speak entirely.

This sort of phenomenon is one all of us here have experience during our formative years.
In my youth, the thought of being "ugly" or "retarded" never crossed my mind. In fact, I was extremely positive and generally friendly towards my peers, both male and female. However, the human mind is effectively a tree—one that can either be nurtured and allowed to grow, or be swiftly cut down before it has an opportunity to. Every hit with the axe—in this case, every cruel word and action taken against me, effectively chipped away at my soul until all that remained was what you now see before you today.

How am I at fault for despising women? I was only 11 years old when I was being "asked out" as a joke for the mere crime of existing. The very fact that someone (in this case, myself), who was raised by a single mother to be a "gentleman," turned out this way only shows just how awful the average female is.

How am I at my fault for seeing myself as ugly? That is what I've been taught my entire life. How do you propose I love myself when even before I adopted my current beliefs, not one woman has ever showed a hint of interest in me. All I've ever received was mockery and scorn.

"How do you expect to attract a girl when you're so insecure and angry?" means NOTHING when "Every path leads to failure" is one if the first lessons you've learned. Only a genuine fool would repeatedly place their hand atop a burning grill and expect a different result each time they do so.

Society now laments that I became a monster, only after it had already convinced me that I am one.
I also have been asked out as a joke before, I was too young and naive to know it was a joke so I stupidly said yes. She then ran away laughing as I stood there looking stupid, so fucking cruel.
 
Extremely cruel form of bullying. Happened to me as well. The fact that normies feel the need to rub it in just how low they find a truecel to be on the totem pole like that is just evil. The worst thing is commonly believed normies never stop doing this kind of stuff, they just get less overt about it. By adulthood most normies are experts at finding ways to rag on truecels with plausible deniability.
I also have been asked out as a joke before, I was too young and naive to know it was a joke so I stupidly said yes. She then ran away laughing as I stood there looking stupid, so fucking cruel.
I am sorry that you had to endure this, brocels. :feelscry:
 
"The modus operandi of normies amounts to kick the dog until it bites then play victim"

Can't remember who's sig this is, but it seems very appropriate right now.

Interesting read, and fuck normfags.
 
@24K Link @proudweeb @Dick Spade @TheGrayWolf @Ryo_Hazuki

I nominate this thread for Must-Read Content. This is I feel one of the most important blackpills. Society hates us, then blames us for what they did to us.
It's all so tiresome.
 
If we receive only bitterness and despise, most of people shouldn't be surprised that's the only emotions we show, we were taught this and we know nothing more from our experience, everything other we do is just an improvisation - mainly encountered with the first both responses
 
Must Read tier thread.
Monsters aren't born, they are MADE. Society MADE us monsters. It's your fault why we're here.
Plus ITards: Touch this. Come on. I fucking dare you.
 
I wanted to be happy, but that was never on the cards.
 
They don't care as long as we are asexual drones to work for them.
 
This is really insightful. Thank you.
 
Learned helplessness is ultimately a survival mechanism. If every time you reached out for love or friendship in your youth, you got burned by rejection, a joke, or a cruel laugh, your brain eventually rewires itself to stop reaching. It is simply the rational response to a pattern of repeated failure. As you said, no one can reasonably expect us to rewire our brains and behavior after years of rejection and ostracization — years that were marked by almost nothing but pure, undistilled suffering and exclusion — thereby demonstrating to us exactly what our position within the social order is, that of an anomaly.

It is absurd to me that people expect me to magically manifest hope out of thin air, as if the decade that I have spent suffering at the bottom of the human hierarchy has not taught me what hope inevitably leads to.
 
Must Read tier thread.
Monsters aren't born, they are MADE. Society MADE us monsters. It's your fault why we're here.
Plus ITards: Touch this. Come on. I fucking dare you.
 

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