Serious The average incel actually mogs the fuck out of even gigastacy when compared objectively

[BrazilianLambda]

Nigga, u gey.

 

[epillepsy]

People are being purposefully dense in this thread or something.
The concept is pretty self-evident and true, and I would say the real gayness lies in disagreeing with it.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

People are being purposefully dense in this thread or something.
The concept is pretty self-evident and true, and I would say the real gayness lies in disagreeing with it.

The women are wonderful effect is some crazy shit. It even affects incels it seems.

 

[epillepsy]

The women are wonderful effect is some crazy shit. It even affects incels it seems.

It's as if you said, let's compare product A and B.
Product A costs $1 and Product B costs $10,000.
OTHER THAN PRICE, which product is better?
And then every single person is arguing that B is better because it costs more.

 

[BrazilianPardoleiro]

Stop thinking sexually, and use objective measures. Foids are ugly. They are truecel tier. They are short as fuck, have pathetic whiney voices, are EXTREMELY weak, have shitty jaws, have weird fat on their chest, have weirdly wide hips which cause them to walk awkwardly, have childlike faces, etc. If an alien came an observed humanity, he would deem blackops2cel as more beautiful than a stacy.

Gigacope
Women =/= Men

 

[Deleted member 28903]

Gigacope
Women =/= Men

They're aesthetically inferior

It's as if you said, let's compare product A and B.
Product A costs $1 and Product B costs $10,000.
OTHER THAN PRICE, which product is better?
And then every single person is arguing that B is better because it costs more.

"Are you saying product A is better because it has better build quality? What are you? Cheap?"

 

[Deleted member 26923]

I wish i could cope like that.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I am referring to beauty which exists outside of sexual attraction. The same kind of beauty you see in beautiful nature or a beautiful work of art.

We are born with a generalized sense of beauty, and what makes us think someone is physically attractive isn't different than what makes us think a building is beautiful. There's just certain forms that make us sexually also attracted to them, but these are a subset of what we already find beautiful

You can't separate beauty from sexuality?
What about the beauty of elegance and function?
Men's bodies have this to a far greater degree when they interact with the world.
They are stronger and have better economy of movement.

What about beauty of thought and making connections between concepts, which is what philosophy, poetry, and narrative is.
The male brain is capable to producing this beauty, while the female one is incapable.

Beauty's not only what makes your dick hard.

And you read the original post, right?
It says to stop thinking sexually and look at it like an alien from another planet would.
It's understood that no one gives a fuck because people are thinking in terms of sexuality.
Instead of "objective beauty," think of it as "beauty removed from sexuality," and you will understand the concept better.

I was just talking about physically in appearance, obviously in most other things men mog the shit out of women.
As for aliens, it wouldn't work like how you think. Our sense of beauty is based on deeply ingrained harwired pattern seeking, but it could be way way different in some alien species.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

makes us think someone is physically attractive isn't different than what makes us think a building is beautiful

So a building is beautiful because it shows signs of fertility? It is beautiful because of its clear skin, narrow waist, and wide hips?

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

So a building is beautiful because it shows signs of fertility? It is beautiful because of its clear skin, narrow waist, and wide hips?

No

We are born with a generalized sense of beauty, and what makes us think someone is physically attractive isn't different than what makes us think a building is beautiful. There's just certain forms that make us sexually also attracted to them, but these are a subset of what we already find beautiful.

Google sensory bias But beauty is mostly in the face and makes us more sexually attracted to them. Hips, height, and various other things are also important but they aren't based on beauty, they are attractiveness that is not beauty specific. A woman getting bigger boobs, hips, and ass doesn't make her more beautiful, as attractiveness isn't based solely on beauty, even though we want to fuck her more. These things light up different regions of the brain, but the region that is associated with processing beauty of humans is the same one that processes beauty in non human things, as the process is based on a generalized one that precedes perception of what is being looked at.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

No


Google sensory bias But beauty is mostly in the face and makes us more sexually attracted to them. Hips, height, and various other things are also important but they aren't based on beauty, they are attractiveness that is not beauty specific. A woman getting bigger boobs, hips, and ass doesn't make her more beautiful, as attractiveness isn't based solely on beauty, even though we want to fuck her more. These things light up different regions of the brain, but the region that is associated with processing beauty of humans is the same one that processes beauty in non human things, as the process is based on a generalized one that precedes perception of what is being looked at.

And foids have less of that non-sexual beauty than males (when they don't cheat with makeup).

 

[your personality]

And foids have less of that non-sexual beauty than males (when they don't cheat with makeup).

A lot of foids SMV besides their body and pussy comes from their quirky but cutesy mannerisms and hair tbh

 

[Deleted member 28903]

A lot of foids SMV besides their body and pussy comes from their quirky but cutesy mannerisms and hair tbh

That's women are wonderful effect in action. You only think the mannerisms are cute because a woman did them. If a male acted like that it would be considered annoying as fuck.

 

[your personality]

That's women are wonderful effect in action. You only think the mannerisms are cute because a woman did them. If a male acted like that it would be considered annoying as fuck.

It's foids high pitched sing song like voice, bodies and sexually dimorphic characteristics in concert with the mannerisms that make such actions cute imo.

Foids acting like that is still annoying but it's outweighed by their sexual appeal and so people tolerate it more.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

And foids have less of that non-sexual beauty than males (when they don't cheat with makeup).

Women Are More Beautiful Than Men

Natural selection has its own logic.

www.psychologytoday.com

If you look at the children analysis, you'll see that even before genders send sexual signals (i.e puberty) women are seen as more attractive than males, which means it is an analogue of their beauty.

That's women are wonderful effect in action. You only think the mannerisms are cute because a woman did them. If a male acted like that it would be considered annoying as fuck.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

wise words..

 

[ShadowTheEdgehog]

People are being purposefully dense in this thread or something.
The concept is pretty self-evident and true, and I would say the real gayness lies in disagreeing with it.

no no.
You are running into something here that I have encountered before.
Maybe you spent times in more high iq places before coming here.

You have to realize that most people here come from places like reddit.
Their level of reading comprehension is fucking horrible. Sometimes I post things and the responses I get make me feel as if half this fucking forum cant even fuckin read.

They are just that dense, sorry.

I get your point. Beauty is not subjective and exists outside the sphere of sexuality.
Art used to be an objective dicipline that took years to master.

There are things like composition of a painting, color theory, balance, certain shapes are more attractive, lines etc...

Even Esther Vilar, the foid that wrote "the manipulated man" wrote that men are objectively more beautiful than women.

@foidologist is this where you got the idea from? from Ester Vilar?

It is lucky for the adult woman that men do not consider themselves beautiful, since most men are beautiful. Their smooth bodies, kept trim by hard work, their strong shoulders, their muscular legs, their melodic voices, their warm, human laughter, the intelligent expression of their faces and their calibrated, meaningful movements overshadow those of women completely, even in a purely animal sense. And since they, unlike women, work and their bodies are therefore preserved for continued future use, men also retain their beauty longer. As a result of their inertia, women's bodies rapidly decay and, after the age of fifty, they are nothing but indifferent heaps of human cells, (One has only to observe a fifty-year-old housewife on the street and compare her appearance with that of a man of the same age.)

Men are not aware of their own beauty and no one mentions it. There is so much rubbish written and talked about the charm of women. Even children and animals are considered graceful, adorable and delightful - but never a man. Men are at best praised for their steadfastness, courage, reliability - all qualities useful to women, having nothing to do with physical appearance. It would be difficult to find a description of the male body except in a medical textbook. And outside of these, who would ever dream of going into great detail about the exact shape of his lips, the precise shade of his eyes in a special kind of light? And as for the delicacy of his nipples or the pleasing shape of his scrotum and his testicles - just imagine a man's amazement and amusement if they were the subject of hymns of praise.


Men are not used to having their looks discussed. Grown women, as a rule ugly creatures, have time and opportunity to admire men, but rarely see them. It is not that a woman is mean or envious; it is that she thinks of him as a machine - a machine for the production of material goods. And who regards a machine as an object of beauty? It is something that functions, and men judge themselves similarly. They are far too worn out by their role as providers and by the eternal rat race to think of being objective about their own looks. All this is a pointless discussion

from page 16 of this pdf version of "the manipulated man":

https://at.wikimannia.org/images/Esther-Vilar_The-Manipulated-Man.pdf

Anyone that has studied art for tiny bit knows that beauty is very objective, there are rules and restrictions to it.

And objectively, most men are more beautiful than most women, period.

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

If an alien came an observed humanity, he would deem blackops2cel as more beautiful than a stacy.

Aliens that haven't enhanced themselves with the equivalent of gene-editing technology would rate whomever looked closest to the composite average of their species as the best. Even if it was a non-human animal.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

no no.
You are running into something here that I have encountered before.
Maybe you spent times in more high iq places before coming here.

You have to realize that most people here come from places like reddit.
Their level of reading comprehension is fucking horrible. Sometimes I post things and the responses I get make me feel as if half this fucking forum cant even fuckin read.

They are just that dense, sorry.

I get your point. Beauty is not subjective and exists outside the sphere of sexuality.
Art used to be an objective dicipline that took years to master.

There are things like composition of a painting, color theory, balance, certain shapes are more attractive, lines etc...

Even Esther Vilar, the foid that wrote "the manipulated man" wrote that men are objectively more beautiful than women.

@foidologist is this where you got the idea from? from Ester Vilar?



from page 16 of this pdf version of "the manipulated man":

https://at.wikimannia.org/images/Esther-Vilar_The-Manipulated-Man.pdf

Anyone that has studied art for tiny bit knows that beauty is very objective, there are rules and restrictions to it.

And objectively, most men are more beautiful than most women, period.

Leonardo da Vinci IQ.

But no I didn't get the idea from Esther Vilar. I got it from looking at art and realizing that the ideal male form just seems to be objectively much more beautiful than the ideal female form. Then I started comparing people irl and I realized when you try to objectively judge the beauty of people, ignoring sexuality and SMV, most women are actually not very beautiful at all. The average male is much more beautiful, and the best looking males are like artistic masterpieces.

Aliens that haven't enhanced themselves with the equivalent of gene-editing technology would rate whomever looked closest to the composite average of their species as the best. Even if it was a non-human animal.

Then why do wolves look much more beautiful than chimps to me?

 

[ShadowTheEdgehog]

Leonardo da Vinci IQ.

But no I didn't get the idea from Esther Vilar. I got it from looking at art and realizing that the ideal male form just seems to be objectively much more beautiful than the ideal female form. Then I started comparing people irl and I realized when you try to objectively judge the beauty of people, ignoring sexuality and SMV, most women are actually not very beautiful at all. The average male is much more beautiful, and the best looking males are like artistic masterpieces.

well it makes sense. Without invoking any fallacies here, I think its safe to say that through natural adaptation (not evolution - different topic

Spoiler

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noj4phMT9OE

) men have become more beautiful than women on multiple levels.

Also, I think the greatest beauty is often a mix of fuctionality paired with aesthetics. These two compliment each other.
Like when you see the muscles of an animal flex as it walks or when you observe birds in flight.

Women are barely functional, they cant work, they develop osteoporosis as they golder. Their bodies are impractical and disfunctional. They bleed once a month, they get vaginal tract or urinary trackt infections VERY quickly. They age like shit.
If you compare our bodies you inevitably ask yourself questions like "why do women have breasts outside mating season?" it makes no sense.

The reason is obivously that women have evolved to leech of men. They are parasites through and through. Their bodies reflect this, their behavior reveals it.
Female Hypo-agency vs male Hyper-Agency, women pretend to be less competent than they already are while men are expected to be more competent than they are at all times.


View: https://youtu.be/IPiyo332Gks?t=76


Maybe only men can see this. Maybe this why a man can fall in love with the general beauty of the world, of nature. Hell, a man can even love someones personality.

In a sense, the bible is right again. Man is made in the image and likeness of God, he has dominion over every creature of this planet and as such he also feels a certain generalized love for the world. But the woman only loves herself and chad.

justs one example, the author of this book got completely enamoured with studying falcons:
Amazon product ASIN 15View: https://www.amazon.com/Peregrine-York-Review-Books-Classics/dp/15


i dont want to write too much. One last thing. When I worked in the nursing home, for the first week or so, I felt weird or disgusted by the old people. Seeing somes bedridden wrinkly pussy or asshole, or cleaning up some old guys diarrhea may sound horrible at first but as a guy you quickly get over that. Especially if you actually talk to the people. But the empathy eventually turns into torture because you realize that most people that work there (foids) dont give a shit. Women feel no empathy.
And when they say they do, they usually give a material example ("I did this or that for him, is that not a sign of love?").

They just have no concept of the depth of a mans soul, they cant even get close to imagining the level of empathy and bonding a man can experience, to the point where he sacrifices his own life for someone else.

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

- John 15:13, KJV

And for us men, we are often prevented from expressing this need for bonding. Society redirects this desire to turn us into work horses. So men start looking for a substitute and they are told to look for it in women. This is where a lot of bluepilled ideas about women being noble, kind and warm come from.
These are predominately male traits. Women are cold and calculating.

This then leads to the greatest and most gruesome bait-and-switch trap ever, relatiosnhips and marriage. Women often pretend to like a guy or even adopt his religious beliefs, his customs and hobbies to get him invested in the relationship initially. Once they gain a significant enough advantage (i.e. kids are born) they suddenly do a 180° and drop the act ("muh wife suddenly is a completely different person").

At this point women start making overt threats to guys. They for example threaten to leave if he doesnt stop hanging out with his friends or drops hobbies that he has. One family I know about, the wife told the guy that she would leave if he didnt drop out of the military and moved to another state, thus isolating him completely from his friendgroup of 10+ years.

The same thing happend to my dad.

As a result, the dad develops this obsessive focus on his kids and especially sons to substitude for the lack of friends and male bonding.
There are other things to this too.
For example, the typcial "dad look".
Women take a mother function in betabux relationships, they start makin doctors appointments for their husband and they even pick their clothes.
Wifes dress their husbands, thus the shitty dad look is intentional.
Think about how psycho this is, they intentionally inflict damage upon their husbands.

I could go on and on but a betabux relationshp with a woman is basically just self-abuse and serverly damaging to your kids as well.

Shadow out.


View: https://youtu.be/TGZMSmcuiXM

 

[Deleted member 28903]

well it makes sense. Without invoking any fallacies here, I think its safe to say that through natural adaptation (not evolution - different topic

Spoiler

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noj4phMT9OE

) men have become more beautiful than women on multiple levels.

Also, I think the greatest beauty is often a mix of fuctionality paired with aesthetics. These two compliment each other.
Like when you see the muscles of an animal flex as it walks or when you observe birds in flight.

Women are barely functional, they cant work, they develop osteoporosis as they golder. Their bodies are impractical and disfunctional. They bleed once a month, they get vaginal tract or urinary trackt infections VERY quickly. They age like shit.
If you compare our bodies you inevitably ask yourself questions like "why do women have breasts outside mating season?" it makes no sense.

The reason is obivously that women have evolved to leech of men. They are parasites through and through. Their bodies reflect this, their behavior reveals it.
Female Hypo-agency vs male Hyper-Agency, women pretend to be less competent than they already are while men are expected to be more competent than they are at all times.


View: https://youtu.be/IPiyo332Gks?t=76


Maybe only men can see this. Maybe this why a man can fall in love with the general beauty of the world, of nature. Hell, a man can even love someones personality.

In a sense, the bible is right again. Man is made in the image and likeness of God, he has dominion over every creature of this planet and as such he also feels a certain generalized love for the world. But the woman only loves herself and chad.

justs one example, the author of this book got completely enamoured with studying falcons:
Amazon product ASIN 15View: https://www.amazon.com/Peregrine-York-Review-Books-Classics/dp/15


i dont want to write too much. One last thing. When I worked in the nursing home, for the first week or so, I felt weird or disgusted by the old people. Seeing somes bedridden wrinkly pussy or asshole, or cleaning up some old guys diarrhea may sound horrible at first but as a guy you quickly get over that. Especially if you actually talk to the people. But the empathy eventually turns into torture because you realize that most people that work there (foids) dont give a shit. Women feel no empathy.
And when they say they do, they usually give a material example ("I did this or that for him, is that not a sign of love?").

They just have no concept of the depth of a mans soul, they cant even get close to imagining the level of empathy and bonding a man can experience, to the point where he sacrifices his own life for someone else.


- John 15:13, KJV

And for us men, we are often prevented from expressing this need for bonding. Society redirects this desire to turn us into work horses. So men start looking for a substitute and they are told to look for it in women. This is where a lot of bluepilled ideas about women being noble, kind and warm come from.
These are predominately male traits. Women are cold and calculating.

View attachment 339972

This then leads to the greatest and most gruesome bait-and-switch trap ever, relatiosnhips and marriage. Women often pretend to like a guy or even adopt his religious beliefs, his customs and hobbies to get him invested in the relationship initially. Once they gain a significant enough advantage (i.e. kids are born) they suddenly do a 180° and drop the act ("muh wife suddenly is a completely different person").

At this point women start making overt threats to guys. They for example threaten to leave if he doesnt stop hanging out with his friends or drops hobbies that he has. One family I know about, the wife told the guy that she would leave if he didnt drop out of the military and moved to another state, thus isolating him completely from his friendgroup of 10+ years.

The same thing happend to my dad.

As a result, the dad develops this obsessive focus on his kids and especially sons to substitude for the lack of friends and male bonding.
There are other things to this too.
For example, the typcial "dad look".
Women take a mother function in betabux relationships, they start makin doctors appointments for their husband and they even pick their clothes.
Wifes dress their husbands, thus the shitty dad look is intentional.
Think about how psycho this is, they intentionally inflict damage upon their husbands.

I could go on and on but a betabux relationshp with a woman is basically just self-abuse and serverly damaging to your kids as well.

Shadow out.


View: https://youtu.be/TGZMSmcuiXM

Females really are very solipsistic. I'd always found it very strange how they go through their entire lives without any real passion or love for anything, but I guess they are a different kind of creature with different needs. Still, it has made me glad I was not born a woman. Despite all the privilege women get in their lives having every single thing they want handed to them on a silver platter, I don't think I could bear such a soulless existence.

 

[Adamhastor]

weird fat on their chest
weirdly wide hips

OK, faggot

 

[Deleted member 19079]

men and women arent held to the same beauty standards jfl subtle gay thread ngl

Gigacope
Women =/= Men

They're aesthetically inferior

JFL

 

[Adamhastor]

jfl subtle gay thread ngl

Not really subtle, tbh

 

[Deleted member 28903]

men and women arent held to the same beauty standards jfl subtle gay thread ngl


JFL

Did you read? I know they're not held to the same standards. I'm asking you to be objective and DO hold them to the same standards so you can see this.

 

[ShadowTheEdgehog]

Females really are very solipsistic. I'd always found it very strange how they go through their entire lives without any real passion or love for anything, but I guess they are a different kind of creature with different needs. Still, it has made me glad I was not born a woman. Despite all the privilege women get in their lives having every single thing they want handed to them on a silver platter, I don't think I could bear such a soulless existence.

yes, its such a bland and fruitless state of being. You are subhuman, your only value is that moist hole between your legs, and you know it.
Ive heard from people that have met very high iq women that even the smartest of foids are basically androids. They are not creative, they are machines.

Also, just LOL at the amount of people in this thread not getting your point jfl. crazy shit.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

Also, just LOL at the amount of people in this thread not getting your point jfl. crazy shit.

It's like none of them are capable of separating beauty from sexuality

 

[Subhuman100]

That's literally their only purpose in life. If they couldn't do that they would be actually worthless.

Agreed everything else is done by men for thousands of years.

No no women are equal to men

 

[Deleted member 16390]

Bodywise male body are supposed to be sleeker and more mathmatically aerodynamic for physical endeavor.

Foid body follow difference criteria for perfection.

Lower body wise , some foids with gonadal body type blow away male aesthetic with their thigh to waist ratio.

Also a gigastacy is clearly superior to incel tier males in several beauty/health catergories.

 

[Haywire]

Nigga, u gey.

this is a odd thread tbh.

 

[Shin no Shi]

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Tier 3 subs sub to this hag.

remember that

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

Then why do wolves look much more beautiful than chimps to me?

Probably because humans domesticated them.