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How is a man being a breadwinner/provider contradictory to paying a prostitute? Aren't you just temporarily becoming the prostitute's provider?Social conservatives have always been against men being able to get sex outside of marriage while conservative libertarians are less against that. Social conservatives failed at constraining pre marital sex but have succeeded at constraining prostitution. Many red states like Texas are socially conservative instead of more libertarian.
To them that doesn't matter because they want to go back to the culture of the 1950s and early 1960s which was still post first wave feminism and when prostitution had become frowned upon.
They probably wouldn't mind going further back to the late 1800s when what you talked about was still legal but they'd prefer how things were viewed and legally enforced around these matters (though not necessarily practiced behaviorally) in the 1950s. And they are so wrapped up in the idea of a breadwinner provider as was more common in the mid 20th century being the ideal man that the idea of prostitution being a way to protect family values would probably be laughable to them. Not to mention the remaining female GOP voters would probably be turned off if socially conservative politicians changed their mind about this and started voting for more socially conservative centrist democrats (like the democrats in red states).
Its because OnlyFans is nothing but a scam. Anything that seems like it could benefit men, modern society is determined to eliminate it. Nothing in the modern West is allowed to exist unless the primary beneficiary of it is going to be women.But nothing against e prostitution since big corps get a cut of the money Simps give to women
It benefits the only fans platform or whatever site internet whores use to sell their nudesIts because OnlyFans is nothing but a scam. Anything that seems like it could benefit men, modern society is determined to eliminate it. Nothing in the modern West is allowed to exist unless the primary beneficiary of it is going to be women.
Its because OnlyFans is nothing but a scam. Anything that seems like it could benefit men, modern society is determined to eliminate it. Nothing in the modern West is allowed to exist unless the primary beneficiary of it is going to be women.
They don't see it that way. They see it as a woman gladly submitting to them without having to be paid to do it even though the concept is still the same as prostitution.How is a man being a breadwinner/provider contradictory to paying a prostitute? Aren't you just temporarily becoming the prostitute's provider?
Even if that's true it's not part of the popular perception of the 1950s today. Prostitution no matter the context is considered sexually degenerate today while the same people that consider it that consider the 1950s to be a time with way lower sexual degeneracy. So they'll just probably conveniently ignore what really happened in the 1950s if it conflicts with their world view.More guys went to prostitutes in the 1950s then they do today.
They don't see it that way. They see it as a woman gladly submitting to them without having to be paid to do it even though the concept is still the same as prostitution.
Even if that's true it's not part of the popular perception of the 1950s today. Prostitution no matter the context is considered sexually degenerate today while the same people that consider it that consider the 1950s to be a time with way lower sexual degeneracy. So they'll just probably conveniently ignore what really happened in the 1950s if it conflicts with their world view.
And since both are now felonies I know which one I would choose.An incel has two choices, buying sex or rape and they're both illegal in Texas. Just lol.
JFL. Incel men in modern America aren't even allowed crumbs.Oy vey, goy can’t have you buying sex from Mexican cartels. You need to sign up for Israeli approved pornhub premium, onlyfans and blacked.com.
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Well this is why I tell people that modern mainstream conservatives represent half assed conservatism. A true reactionary/traditionalist looks to the past and recognizes all the different factors that went into creating the world they desire to return to.They don't see it that way. They see it as a woman gladly submitting to them without having to be paid to do it even though the concept is still the same as prostitution.
Even if that's true it's not part of the popular perception of the 1950s today. Prostitution no matter the context is considered sexually degenerate today while the same people that consider it that consider the 1950s to be a time with way lower sexual degeneracy. So they'll just probably conveniently ignore what really happened in the 1950s if it conflicts with their world view.
Idk at this point because what conservatism represents in most people's minds now (whether in the mainstream or alternative) doesn't consider all of that but more just the aesthetics and public behavior of that time.Well this is why I tell people that modern mainstream conservatives represent half assed conservatism. A true reactionary/traditionalist looks to the past and recognizes all the different factors that went into creating the world they desire to return to.
It isn't going to change either tbh it's always been easier to tell men what to do and shame them because nobody with a lot of social power will object to it. But if you tell women what to do it's an easy way to get people to target you.So that means conservatives who oppose letting 15 year old girls marry 21 year old guys and conservatives who oppose prostitution are fake traditionalists. What mainstream conservatives want is basically a liberal, politically correct version of the 1950s rather then the real 1950s. Its funny because my dad is definitely like that. If you said to him "should we return to the 1950s" he'd say yes, but if you got specific and started saying things like "should we teach women from a young age their ideal role in society is to get married and be a housewife," or "should it be normal for teenage girls to marry older men" he'll say no.
It's not really that strange tbh it's just that like everyone else their perception of the past is heavily affected by popular depictions of it in the media and how far they are willing to go back is still judged on how whether it's socially acceptable to expect such things of women according to standards of only really as far back as the 1980s.Mainstream modern conservatives have a strange philosophy on true conservatism. They'll say "women should be housewives if they want to" but there seems to be an undertone in most mainstream conservatives' wording that its still a good thing that most women aren't housewives anymore. You won't see any mainstream conservative actually saying that we should encourage women to stay at home or that the role of a housewife is the ideal role of a woman.
tbh it doesn't matter what you tell them because they are so attached to that romanticized version of the past that they saw in movies that they won't believe you anyway or will think you are trying to be subversive.Anyway, my recommendation is to ignore what modern mainstream conservatives think conservatism is about and call them out on their bullshit and tell them what true conservatism is. Wound their egos by saying they are adhering to a politically correct vision of the past and that they are basically right-leaning liberals rather then true conservatives. I've been trying to radicalize my dad for months and point out the contradictions between what mainstream conservatives say it means to be a conservative and what a real conservative society looks like and believes in.
Well I have often said that what mainstream conservatives are trying to return to is not really the 1950s but rather the 1970s and 1980s.Idk at this point because what conservatism represents in most people's minds now (whether in the mainstream or alternative) doesn't consider all of that but more just the aesthetics and public behavior of that time.
It isn't going to change either tbh it's always been easier to tell men what to do and shame them because nobody with a lot of social power will object to it. But if you tell women what to do it's an easy way to get people to target you.
It's not really that strange tbh it's just that like everyone else their perception of the past is heavily affected by popular depictions of it in the media and how far they are willing to go back is still judged on how whether it's socially acceptable to expect such things of women according to standards of only really as far back as the 1980s.
tbh it doesn't matter what you tell them because they are so attached to that romanticized version of the past that they saw in movies that they won't believe you anyway or will think you are trying to be subversive.
Pretty much but not even the 1980s most of the time. More like the 1990s when western countries were still majority white and rap and hip hop culture was taking off. If you were to really try and enforce the kind of culture that existed in the 1950s they'd think you are lame for it.Well I have often said that what mainstream conservatives are trying to return to is not really the 1950s but rather the 1970s and 1980s.
Yeah conservatives only want the aesthetics of that period and because in an era where they feel more disempowered than ever they want to pretend that they are like "patriarchs" in the 1950s like in shows like Leave it to Beaver. Or stone cold, smooth sophisticated men like James Bond.I think Mad Men's depiction of the 1950s is pretty in line with what I'm talking about. I think conservatives tend to view reactionaries in general as subversive. "Poisoning the good intentions of conservatism." But that is because mainstream conservatives don't want real conservatism to return. If you notice, mainstream conservatives tend to shit on the past almost as much as liberals do. But the conservatives main philosophy is basically "everything was going well up until very recently." Whereas the philosophy of the reactionary is "things have been declining for a long time now."
tbh no one actually wants to go back to the 1950s fully. They just like adopting the aesthetics of it. If they really cared about going back to that time they wouldn't virgin shame others or call guys that are high inhib and nerdy lame. And eating bland food and not roasting people wouldn't be seen as things worthy of mockery. They are stuck in a late 1980s/1990s mindset that has grown more deranged with time.This is why mainstream conservatives are completely fine with attacking countries like Japan or India. Because mainstream conservatives are basically people who would've been centrists back in the 70s and 80s. And centrists back then did not agree with the conservatives of their time period.
I've thought the exact same thing about conservatives who virgin shame people. In the 1950s, people would not have pointed at your lack of sexual experience and called you a pussy.Pretty much but not even the 1980s most of the time. More like the 1990s when western countries were still majority white and rap and hip hop culture was taking off. If you were to really try and enforce the kind of culture that existed in the 1950s they'd think you are lame for it.
Yeah conservatives only want the aesthetics of that period and because in an era where they feel more disempowered than ever they want to pretend that they are like "patriarchs" in the 1950s like in shows like Leave it to Beaver. Or stone cold, smooth sophisticated men like James Bond.
tbh no one actually wants to go back to the 1950s fully. They just like adopting the aesthetics of it. If they really cared about going back to that time they wouldn't virgin shame others or call guys that are high inhib and nerdy lame. And eating bland food and not roasting people wouldn't be seen as things worthy of mockery. They are stuck in a late 1980s/1990s mindset that has grown more deranged with time.
Put simply the 1950s is a meme to most people now. Even to the people that grew up back then. In fact it's many people that grew up back then that specifically don't want to go back to those "boring" times. They'll just pretend that they do because it's popular to be nostalgic for the culture of those times.I've thought the exact same thing about conservatives who virgin shame people. In the 1950s, people would not have pointed at your lack of sexual experience and called you a pussy.
The reason I say the 1970s and 1980s is because those were the decades that the idea of "sexual neoliberalism" really took off. The philosophy of the 1950s which we generally support more is that sexual competition is not a good thing for society. The 1950s instead adhered to more of a principle of sexual sublimation as detailed in the wiki where any man could get a wife who was expected to be loyal, sweet, and feminine as long as certain pro-social conditions were met. So as long as you had a job and could provide for a woman, you were considered to have earned it. Basically, just don't be a parasite off of society and don't be a criminal.
Post sexual revolution, birth control pill and rock and roll. Very complicated factors all unraveling but yeah there was no returning to times before that. Then it got even worse with hip hop and rap culture and how thugmaxxing behavior became accepted among many people in society.However, the 1970s and 1980s was when the philosophy started to really revolve around women and their desires instead.
They also believe in the woman that "can bring home the bacon" and still be feminine but at the same time yearns to submit to a strong, masculine patriarch and is just shit testing them like some cheesy 1980s movie.The mainstream conservative today basically believes that lots of women inherently want traditional lifestyles and that if you can't "seduce her into it" then you are a failure as a man. Trying to encourage or coerce women into behaving traditionally is thus seen, in the mainstream conservative's eye, as unmanly because "if you really deserved that you'd be able to earn it yourself rather then relying on social pressure to create traditional women." The mainstream conservative explanation of feminism is basically that men don't act manly enough for women to want to be traditional which is complete bullshit. Men today act much more stereotypically and aggressively macho then men in the 1950s did.
Exactly. So many "tradwifes" also have cross-over with TERFs that want biological privileges for women to be kept intact.But this is also bullshit because women do not act "traditional" because some suave dude came and swept her off her feet. In order to create a true traditional girl in most cases, you pretty much have to teach her from childhood to behave that way. No girl is really going to behave like a traditional girl unless she was raised in a very moral and disciplined family environment that explicitly taught her to behave that way. The type of girls that mainstream conservatives see as traditional are really just reformed liberals/feminists who now see the appeal of a male provider. They are not women who have grown up fundamentally seeing their role in life as that of a caretaker. The easiest way to identify a true traditional girl is that she will say "her ultimate dream is to be married and have children."
Again I don't think there are such things as traditional females or males anymore outside of small communes that still have a pre late 20th century standard of living and technology. Most of them are just larpers that want to act above others and the "degeneracy" (which to them is a synonym for acting cringe).It is the girls who are like this that I notice are genuinely kind people, who don't care if a guy is socially awkward or a bit shy, who doesn't virgin shame. If a girl has the attitude of "you will approach me first or else you're not a real man!" Then they are not a traditional girl. They are just a reformed liberal/feminist.
Many 'red-pill' cucks believe this foolishness.[UWSL]Trying to encourage or coerce women into behaving traditionally is thus seen, in the mainstream conservative's eye, as unmanly because "if you really deserved that you'd be able to earn it yourself rather then relying on social pressure to create traditional women." The mainstream conservative explanation of feminism is basically that men don't act manly enough for women to want to be traditional which is complete bullshit. [/UWSL]
My mom is a classic traditional woman. In pretty much every way you can think of. Apparently she was really shy and mocked a lot growing up so she hates "the mean girls and jocks" aka chads and stacies just as much as any of us do.Put simply the 1950s is a meme to most people now. Even to the people that grew up back then. In fact it's many people that grew up back then that specifically don't want to go back to those "boring" times. They'll just pretend that they do because it's popular to be nostalgic for the culture of those times.
Post sexual revolution, birth control pill and rock and roll. Very complicated factors all unraveling but yeah there was no returning to times before that. Then it got even worse with hip hop and rap culture and how thugmaxxing behavior became accepted among many people in society.
They also believe in the woman that "can bring home the bacon" and still be feminine but at the same time yearns to submit to a strong, masculine patriarch and is just shit testing them like some cheesy 1980s movie.
The lowest IQ phrase the manosphere (mostly PUAs) ever come up with is that feminism is just a shit test. They cope by laughing off women seeking to harm ugly men for perceived wrongs in the past (like women having to romantically and sexually associate with ugly men to get access to whatever they had to offer materially) and by claiming any guy that points this out is a "pussy" that doesn't know how to keep a bitch in line. It would be laughable if not for how these kind of people have stymied so much progress in coherent discussions about why these things are the way they are now and prefer to stick to the media narrative and shaming low SMV males that have got screwed over in the current paradigm.
Exactly. So many "tradwifes" also have cross-over with TERFs that want biological privileges for women to be kept intact.
tbh I don't think a true traditional girl or man exists anymore aside from the amish or mennonites or some remote village in the Middle East where their way of life still revolves around agriculture and not service industry economies and the easy access of the internet, social media and smartphones.
Again I don't think there are such things as traditional females or males anymore outside of small communes that still have a pre late 20th century standard of living and technology. Most of them are just larpers that want to act above others and the "degeneracy" (which to them is a synonym for acting cringe).
But again this is never going to change and if anything will probably get worse.
Imo people here that think they are spreading the blackpill by pointing this out thinking they stumbled on hidden knowledge are wasting their time. You can't control and affect the surrounding culture to your liking. Only persistently high SMV physically strong looking males can do that. And incels are not in that category otherwise they wouldn't be incels.
Incels failing to control the direction of culture despite some claiming they are the mainstream now is shown by how things have unfolded so far ngl
Everything incels have come up with has been co-opted or twisted by others. If you can't do anything at a systematic level it's better to just cope and ldar. And don't listen to clickbaiting concern trolling media that tries to tell you otherwise because they are just trying to create outrage and division for their entertainment and for clicks.
I really can't believe that. At most traditional women will settle for chadlites or high tier normies instead of chads but that's about it. They don't really hate "the mean girls and jocks". Also a reminder that bullies aren't just chads and stacies and many religious women feel that good looking guys are blessed and more morally good.My mom is a classic traditional woman. In pretty much every way you can think of. Apparently she was really shy and mocked a lot growing up so she hates "the mean girls and jocks" aka chads and stacies just as much as any of us do.
It's probably a fake warmth and friendliness. They don't really care about you but about their perception of themselves.I've met some girls from very religious households and some girls from Asian countries who seemed like real traditional girls. There's a kind of warmth and friendliness to them that you just don't see with normal girls.
Imo Mad Men is more mean to model the early 1960s which were slightly different than the 1950s. But yeah Mad Men probably does exaggerate because many tv shows do that. Including shows that glorify cops and lawyers.I think for the most part, Mad Men is a pretty accurate portrayal of the 1950s. Although I think Mad Men exaggerates the amount of adultery that went on back then.
I don't know what to tell you but my mom didn't. Every chad that my mom meets she just assumes he's an asshole and says she doesn't like him. Both of my parents really dislike popular, high status people and encouraged me to be friends with "the weird kid that nobody else will be friends with." My mom has disliked every single person I've been acquainted with who was a chad pretty much from the moment she met them.I really can't believe that. At most traditional women will settle for chadlites or high tier normies instead of chads but that's about it. They don't really hate "the mean girls and jocks". Also a reminder that bullies aren't just chads and stacies and many religious women feel that good looking guys are blessed and more morally good.
It's probably a fake warmth and friendliness. They don't really care about you but about their perception of themselves.
Imo Mad Men is more mean to model the early 1960s which were slightly different than the 1950s. But yeah Mad Men probably does exaggerate because many tv shows do that. Including shows that glorify cops and lawyers.
It makes sense. Prostitutes in Texas are most likely to be Mexican women trafficked there against their will, and Texas is generally more conservative from what I know about AmericaIn Texas of all states? Fuck's sake. That attorney general needs to be fired.
If you’re talking about Christianity that’s completely false. We’re taught not to judge or discriminate people and to love everyone. Admittedly many Christians don’t do that, no one’s perfect after all, but you’re certainly much more likely to treat everyone equally if you’re Christianmany religious women feel that good looking guys are blessed and more morally good.
Take me with you We can go to the goblina whorehouses of mexicoTime to move out of cuckmerica
Prostitutes in Texas are most likely to be Mexican women trafficked there against their will
"No one's perfect" is a bullshit excuse.If you’re talking about Christianity that’s completely false. We’re taught not to judge or discriminate people and to love everyone. Admittedly many Christians don’t do that, no one’s perfect after all, but you’re certainly much more likely to treat everyone equally if you’re Christian
If these idiots actually just legalized prostitution then human traffic would dip down to zero for that state and male workplace productivity would probably go up "for some reason ""Texas is the first in the country to punish sex buyers with felonies, which is a substantial step towards curbing the demand for commercial sex," Attorney General Ken Paxton said in a statement. "Human trafficking is modern day slavery — targeting vulnerable men, women and children in our communities. I commend our legislature for passing laws that fight this inexcusable offense."
Texas to be first state to make buying sex a felony
The law, which takes effect Sept. 1, passed both chambers of the state legislature and was signed into law by Gov. Greg Abbott.justthenews.com
Everytime I think the US couldn't possibly get anymore cucked and anti-male, I unfortunately get proven wrong...
You need to stop with the religious delusions, Christianity is just a virtue signalling club these days, most people calling themselves Christians don't even properly adhere to the doctrine, its just about "social proof" of you being a "good person", but in their lives outside of the view of others these Christian house wives are using "bad dragon" and cross shaped dildosIt makes sense. Prostitutes in Texas are most likely to be Mexican women trafficked there against their will, and Texas is generally more conservative from what I know about America
If you’re talking about Christianity that’s completely false. We’re taught not to judge or discriminate people and to love everyone. Admittedly many Christians don’t do that, no one’s perfect after all, but you’re certainly much more likely to treat everyone equally if you’re Christian
Cuckservatives being cuckservatives"Texas is the first in the country to punish sex buyers with felonies, which is a substantial step towards curbing the demand for commercial sex," Attorney General Ken Paxton said in a statement. "Human trafficking is modern day slavery — targeting vulnerable men, women and children in our communities. I commend our legislature for passing laws that fight this inexcusable offense."
Texas to be first state to make buying sex a felony
The law, which takes effect Sept. 1, passed both chambers of the state legislature and was signed into law by Gov. Greg Abbott.justthenews.com
Everytime I think the US couldn't possibly get anymore cucked and anti-male, I unfortunately get proven wrong...
America is cucked and pozzed.
Both liberals and conservatives worship women and hate incels
Great argument"No one's perfect" is a bullshit excuse.
Not really. Most of the icons I see only show the top half of Jesus/saint/angel, and when they show the whole body there isn’t a set rule for how tall to make them, it’s just up to the iconographerthe average saved person is usually portrayed portrayed as a tall
I don’t know much about Catholic or Eastern Orthodox icons (I think the latter follow the same rules that we do), but in Coptic art every facial feature usually has some symbolic meaning behind it. Like a small mouth to symbolise that the Saint didn’t talk much, round eyes to symbolise that they could discern the good way, and I think large ears to symbolise how they heard the gospel. There isn’t any focus on making them attractivegood looking person
You haven’t heard of Saint Moses the Black? Most of the icons I’ve seen of Jesus and the Saint don’t make them very white, they make him tan and with brown hair. In Ethiopian icons they’re even darker. Christianity started in the Middle East, so Jesus and Saint Mary and the apostles and the prophets and so on weren’t white. In contrast the modern spread of atheism started with white people in the west, and it paved the way for evolution/natural selection which led to scientific racism and segregation and fascist/communist regimes and genocides and all that. Even many of IT’s arguments against incels use natural selection. So if you’re ethnic you’re way better off being Christian than atheist(usually white)
Many of them were old men. Have you really not seen a single depiction of the Desert Fathers?with a youthful glow to their face
Do you not realise how much that helps incels? The way virginity, for both men and women, is prized by Christian? Tell an atheist crowd that you’re a virgin and they’ll laugh at you, tell a non-protestant Christian crowd and they’ll be impressed.Also the emphasis on purity
And what are they now? You just disproved your own pointmany of them [SJWs] were former Christians
When your done toss a few buxx at her just to confuse the law!And since both are now felonies I know which one I would choose.
We aren't talking about Coptic Christians here. We are talking about western Christians, who are heavily oriented around lookism and share much of the same ideas about attractiveness and morality.Great argument
Not really. Most of the icons I see only show the top half of Jesus/saint/angel, and when they show the whole body there isn’t a set rule for how tall to make them, it’s just up to the iconographer
I don’t know much about Catholic or Eastern Orthodox icons (I think the latter follow the same rules that we do), but in Coptic art every facial feature usually has some symbolic meaning behind it. Like a small mouth to symbolise that the Saint didn’t talk much, round eyes to symbolise that they could discern the good way, and I think large ears to symbolise how they heard the gospel. There isn’t any focus on making them attractive
Stop proselytizing. Just because someone isn't Christian doesn't mean they have to be atheist or social darwinist oriented. That's a false dichotomy. And again we are talking about western countries like the US here, where Jesus and other Biblical figures are frequently portrayed as white and with a glow in their face. Nobody except SJWs that are looking to spite conservative white Christians and black nationalists emphasize Jesus being black or Middle Eastern.You haven’t heard of Saint Moses the Black? Most of the icons I’ve seen of Jesus and the Saint don’t make them very white, they make him tan and with brown hair. In Ethiopian icons they’re even darker. Christianity started in the Middle East, so Jesus and Saint Mary and the apostles and the prophets and so on weren’t white. In contrast the modern spread of atheism started with white people in the west, and it paved the way for evolution/natural selection which led to scientific racism and segregation and fascist/communist regimes and genocides and all that. Even many of IT’s arguments against incels use natural selection. So if you’re ethnic you’re way better off being Christian than atheist
That's completely wrong. Both Christians and non Christians look down on virginity unless you are saving yourself for marriage. Unless you are living in some Middle Eastern country ,religion in terms of sexual purity isn't taken that seriously. There are many Christians that look down on incels and virgin males that have grown cynical regarding life, because they know incels will never be able to get married. Nobody in western countries is seriously impressed by virgin males.Many of them were old men. Have you really not seen a single depiction of the Desert Fathers?
Do you not realise how much that helps incels? The way virginity, for both men and women, is prized by Christian? Tell an atheist crowd that you’re a virgin and they’ll laugh at you, tell a non-protestant Christian crowd and they’ll be impressed.
They never gave up the religious, puritanical mindset and moralist attitudes. Do you not get it? They merely traded one religion (god) for another (women and minorities). Many of them admit that if Christianity focused more on the issues not regarding sexual morality, they would still be Christian.And what are they now? You just disproved your own point
Irrelevant. How many people bring up Saints for ugly people in Christianity in western countries? The closest example is Job suffering, but that is again depicted as a test god is putting Job through, where the ugliness is just a passing phase. Every advertisement for Christianity in western countries is all about showing good looking people and associating purity, virtue and godliness with good looks.Oh and by the way, there’s a patron Saint for ugly people: Saint Drogo
Saint Drogo - Wikipedia
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Nothing’s stopping you from going to your nearest Orthodox church though, they’re everywhere. And if there isn’t one near you then a Catholic church would be fine as well, they’re not as westernised as ProtestantsWe aren't talking about Coptic Christians here. We are talking about western Christians, who are heavily oriented around lookism and share much of the same ideas about attractiveness and morality.
What other options do you have? You can be Muslim where one guy is allowed to have up to 4 wives (and he won’t be you), or Jewish except they don‘t like new converts, or any pagan religion except none of them are against polygamy or premarital sex so it won‘t solve anything. You can’t be an atheist without believing in evolution because how else would we come to exist, and you can’t believe in evolution without being racist because a natural extension of “humanity evolved from more primitive creatures” is “some races evolved more than others”.Just because someone isn't Christian doesn't mean they have to be atheist or social darwinist oriented.
I’ll admit that this is a problem with western Christians. But Ethiopian Christians draw Jesus black, Chinese Christians draw him Asian, etc. Also it’s not just SJWs and black nationalists, I see a lot of people on the internet arguing over which race Jesus was which shows that the public is conscious of the Jesus race controversy. And there are plenty of Orthodox churches in the US, where every icon of Jesus is realistically colouredThat's a false dichotomy. And again we are talking about western countries like the US here, where Jesus and other Biblical figures are frequently portrayed as white and with a glow in their face. Nobody except SJWs that are looking to spite conservative white Christians and black nationalists emphasize Jesus being black or Middle Eastern.
Yeah they are. Western Christians can be pretty gross sometimes, especially a few decades ago when they supporated slavery and segregation and all that. But that’s the effect of the disgusting Protestant belief that deeds don’t matter and only faith does: if you’re Christian you definitely go to heaven and if you’re not you definitely go to hell. It renders pretty much everything in the Bible useless and makes God into some unjust tyrant who punishes good people just for not being Christian.Regarding social darwinism, have you ever heard of muscular Christianity? Have you seen how appeals to strength and virility are made even with conservative Christians? They are closer to social darwinists than they think.
Are you sure about that? I’ve heard many stories of Christians who shunned their children or siblings for having premarital sex. It happens (though to a much lesser degree) even in the west because of the many Christians who immigrate from more conservative Orthodox/Muslim countries. I’m in the west right now, but I assure you that if I went to my dad right now and told him I had sex he would kick me out of the house, or at least heavily punish meThat's completely wrong. Both Christians and non Christians look down on virginity unless you are saving yourself for marriage. Unless you are living in some Middle Eastern country ,religion in terms of sexual purity isn't taken that seriously. There are many Christians that look down on incels and virgin males that have grown cynical regarding life, because they know incels will never be able to get married. Nobody in western countries is seriously impressed by virgin males.
Isn’t that what you’re doing here? Being an incel is in itself kind of worshipping women, since you’re obsessing yourself with the fact that they don’t like you. Now I’m obviously guilty of the same thing, or else I wouldn’t be here, but it’s hypocritical to criticise SJWs for worshiping women and minorities while posting here of all places. Also you’re still disproving your point with the second sentence there, admitting that Christianity is strict on sexual moralityThey merely traded one religion (god) for another (women and minorities). Many of them admit that if Christianity focused more on the issues not regarding sexual morality, they would still be Christian.
Can you elaborate on that? I’m not sure what you’re talking about hereadvertisement for Christianity
If any kind of church helped there wouldn't be so many incels that departed from the faith (including Orthodox and Coptics) and that said their faith did nothing for them when it came to falling into inceldom and feeling dejected by women.Nothing’s stopping you from going to your nearest Orthodox church though, they’re everywhere. And if there isn’t one near you then a Catholic church would be fine as well, they’re not as westernised as Protestants
The blackpill is based on evolutionary concepts of sexual selection, mating preference and lookism, where women gravitate to the most attractive men and leave other less good looking men (irrespective of their morals or behavior) completely alone. This clashes with what the bible says about how woman were made to be a companion and helpmate of man.What other options do you have? You can be Muslim where one guy is allowed to have up to 4 wives (and he won’t be you), or Jewish except they don‘t like new converts, or any pagan religion except none of them are against polygamy or premarital sex so it won‘t solve anything. You can’t be an atheist without believing in evolution because how else would we come to exist,
This is another false dichotomy. Just because you believe in evolution and that humans evolved from animals doesn't mean that you think some races evolved more than others. You are thinking of 19th century race scientists that used appeals to evolutionary concepts to justify racial segregation and the idea that other races were better than the other. But there were just as easily religious, god fearing white people back then that viewed other races as different because of how god didn't make everyone the same, the story of Ham (when it comes to black people's skin color and the idea that were more cursed) and how the light and whiteness is associated with more purity meant that darkness in skin color is associated with sin and a savage nature that needs to be subjugated.you can’t believe in evolution without being racist because a natural extension of “humanity evolved from more primitive creatures” is “some races evolved more than others”.
We weren't talking about Orthodox Christians. These kind of prostitution laws are the kind that were drawn up in large part by western Christians (Protestants and Catholics) living in western countries like the US.I’ll admit that this is a problem with western Christians. But Ethiopian Christians draw Jesus black, Chinese Christians draw him Asian, etc. Also it’s not just SJWs and black nationalists, I see a lot of people on the internet arguing over which race Jesus was which shows that the public is conscious of the Jesus race controversy. And there are plenty of Orthodox churches in the US, where every icon of Jesus is realistically coloured
I know there is are schisms between different branches of Christianity where they believe (in contradiction to scriptures) that one branch is better than the other. But all of the reasons incels depart from Christianity do not have to do with these schisms.Yeah they are. Western Christians can be pretty gross sometimes, especially a few decades ago when they supporated slavery and segregation and all that. But that’s the effect of the disgusting Protestant belief that deeds don’t matter and only faith does: if you’re Christian you definitely go to heaven and if you’re not you definitely go to hell. It renders pretty much everything in the Bible useless and makes God into some unjust tyrant who punishes good people just for not being Christian.
The Catholic Church is still pretty heavily socially conservative but not in the way that would oppose current social trends. For example they oppose contraception but increasingly make exceptions for cases of abortion while only loosely condemning sexual infidelity in marriage. They give lip service to the idea of marriage and constantly portray it as being under attack from outside by sinners when women's unwillingness to be faithful has more than anything destroyed the idea of marriage as a lifelong union between one man and one woman.But luckily only a fraction of Christians actually believe that. The Catholic Church wasn’t really on board with segregation (partly because Irish and Polish people were also discriminated against, but not as much as black peopl).
Again we aren't talking about those Christians. We are talking about Christians in western countries who are majority white or black and only have superficial attachments to the religion at best and see Christianity as culturally how western countries view it and are the type to support these laws like the one just passed in Texas while only giving lip service to being against things like premarital sex or no fault divorce.Are you sure about that? I’ve heard many stories of Christians who shunned their children or siblings for having premarital sex. It happens (though to a much lesser degree) even in the west because of the many Christians who immigrate from more conservative Orthodox/Muslim countries. I’m in the west right now, but I assure you that if I went to my dad right now and told him I had sex he would kick me out of the house, or at least heavily punish me
No because those people make a conscious effort to defend women at all costs, making it essentially worship. Being an incel and thinking about women isn't something you can help because wanting women is a biological instinct and being preoccupied with whether you are attractive to them or not is something that every biologically straight male has to deal with.Isn’t that what you’re doing here? Being an incel is in itself kind of worshipping women, since you’re obsessing yourself with the fact that they don’t like you. Now I’m obviously guilty of the same thing, or else I wouldn’t be here, but it’s hypocritical to criticise SJWs for worshiping women and minorities while posting here of all places. Also you’re still disproving your point with the second sentence there, admitting that Christianity is strict on sexual morality
Whenever you see posters or videos about people that have turned to Jesus in western countries they almost always show good looking white people (usually white women) with a glow to their face and that are youthful looking, associating being saved with looking better and having an attractive face.Can you elaborate on that? I’m not sure what you’re talking about here
This will just hurt women more lol, watch as kidnapping and sex trafficking skyrocketsThis is probably a good thing if it hurts the cartels, but if that's the case all drug use should be felony too, and close border and execute cartels as terrorist.s
> implying that isn't the plan and prisons don't need excuses to lock more people up for victimless crimes now that drug laws are being relaxed @mNFwTJ3wz9This will just hurt women more lol, watch as kidnapping and sex trafficking skyrockets
Rape is going to go up in texas, sexual assault too
thats pretty retarded, what could be the purpose for doing this?"Texas is the first in the country to punish sex buyers with felonies, which is a substantial step towards curbing the demand for commercial sex," Attorney General Ken Paxton said in a statement. "Human trafficking is modern day slavery — targeting vulnerable men, women and children in our communities. I commend our legislature for passing laws that fight this inexcusable offense."
Texas to be first state to make buying sex a felony
The law, which takes effect Sept. 1, passed both chambers of the state legislature and was signed into law by Gov. Greg Abbott.justthenews.com
Everytime I think the US couldn't possibly get anymore cucked and anti-male, I unfortunately get proven wrong...