What does solitary confinement have to do with inceldom? You might think I'm reaching but when you look at the symptoms there are many similarities between this and serious loneliness experienced by people outside of bars.
It's not a 1:1 comparison but i think this provides a good insight on the damage that LDARing and being a soclial outcast can do to somebody.
tl;dr: Solitary confinement is used all around the world as a way to punish inmates. The United Nations recognize this as a form of TORTURE. Loneliness is so devastating that people would rather be around murderers and rapists than be alone. People would rather risk getting shanked or raped, that's how bad loneliness is.
Forced isolation destroys people's mental health in various ways and even has adverse effects on their physiological health. Some of this mental damage can be permanent. Moreover, the loneliness often leads to self harm and suicide.
Isolated Insanity: The Damaging Effects of Solitary Confinement Isolate
"Solitary confinement is a popular form of punishment in prisons. However, it often results in the deterioration of the inmate’s mental health, especially when it is prolonged. It may lead to severe mental illness or self-harm, including suicide. In addition to the mental health effects, solitary confinement inhibits the rehabilitation process as it limits or eliminates exercise, visitation hours, medical treatment, and group recreation. Without these, many inmates lose their sense of identity and their hold on reality, thereby reducing the odds of successful reentry into society."
"Researchers have shown that isolation is a psychological stressor that can become as distressing as physical torture (Metzner & Fellner, 2010), and may be especially damaging in mentally ill prisoners. "
"Psychological stressors may result in the following: anxiety, depression, obsessive compulsive disorder, paranoia, anger, perceptual distortions, psychosis, panic, insomnia, hallucinations, self-mutilation, suicidal behavior, violence, emotional breakdowns, and withdrawal (Andersen, Sestoft, Lillebaek, Gabrielsen, & Hemmingsen, 2003; Grassian, 1983; Haney, 2003; Haney et al., 2016; Metzner & Fellner, 2010; Pizarro & Stenius, 2004; Shalev, 2011)"
"Anderson and colleagues (2003) reported that a higher risk for mental disorders exists in solitary confinement inmates than in those not exposed to solitary confinement."
"In studies of the psychological consequences of solitary confinement, Haney (2003) utilized both case studies and personal accounts of mental health workers in supermax prisons. He concluded that there is not a single study wherein inmates placed in solitary confinement for more than 10 days did not present negative psychological symptoms (see also, Applebaum, 2015)."
Imagine what being a social outcast for years or decades must do to you. Imagine what LDAR'ing and neeting for years does to someone
"Due to the mental deterioration associated with solitary confinement, inmates engage in suicidal behavior and self-harm (Arrigo & Bullock, 2008; Haney, 2003). Self-harm is the leading cause of death among inmates "
Roping and suicidal tendencies are very common among isolated people ... sound familiar?
"Solitary confinement also inhibits inmates’ rehabilitation. They are denied access to recreation, regular visitation hours, and proper psychiatric treatment (Haney, 2003; Haney et al., 2016; Pizzaro & Stenius, 2004; Shalev, 2011). Without these vital programs that enhance their living state, inmates will often struggle to adapt to regular society upon their release from prison (Haney et al., 2016). "
Here's a brutal example from the same paper about a teenager who was falsely convicted, placed in isolation, which subsequently destroyed his mental health to the point where his family and friends felt he was off ... this later lead to him roping (literally)
"Inmates also experience trouble with their eating and digestion, especially within the first three months of solitary confinement (Smith, 2006). A lack of appetite and drastic weight loss is often accompanied with irregular digestion, particularly diarrhea. Inmates in isolation may also have difficulty sleeping, and some may experience insomnia (Smith, 2006; Haney, 2003). Consequently,, inmates report feelings of chronic lethargy (Shalev, 2008)."
Notice how inmates placed in solitary experience the same sleeping issues as lonely people, as previously discussed in this thread i made
"Confined inmates experience a multitude of psychological effects, including emotional, cognitive, and psychosis-related symptoms (Smith, 2006; Shalev, 2008). Solitary confinement is considered harmful to the mental health of inmates because it restricts meaningful social contact, a psychological stimulus that humans need in order to remain healthy and functioning (Smith, 2006). Longer stays in solitary confinement are associated with greater mental health symptoms that have serious emotional and behavioral consequences. (Smith, 2006; Shalev, 2008)."
"Confined prisoners also report feelings of panic and rage, including irritability, hostility, and poor impulse control."
"Additionally, they frequently exhibit symptoms of anxiety that vary from low levels of stress to severe panic attacks. Isolated inmates also experience symptoms of depression, such as hopelessness, mood swings, and withdrawal. These depressive symptoms may even escalate to thoughts of self-harm and suicide. As compared to the general prison population, rates of suicide and self-harm, such as cutting and banging one’s head against the cell wall, are particularly high in prisoners assigned to solitary confinement (Haney, 2003; Shalev, 2008; Greist, 2012)."
I think the analogy with this forum is obvious
"Cognitive effects of solitary confinement. In addition to having disruptions in their emotional processes, inmates’ cognitive processes tend to deteriorate while they are in isolation. Some confined inmates report memory loss, and a significant portion of isolated inmates report impaired concentration (Smith, 2006; Shalev, 2008). Many are unable to read or watch television since these activities are their few sources of entertainment. Confined inmates also report feeling extremely confused and disoriented in time and space (Haney, 2003; Shalev, 2008)."
LDAR'ing rots your brain. This is sort of cognitive/attention span decline has been talked about a lot on this forum by certain users such as @anon1822
"Another confinement related psychological symptom that inmates may experience is disrupted thinking, defined as an inability to maintain a coherent flow of thoughts. This disrupted thinking can result in symptoms of psychosis (Haney, 2003; Shalev, 2008). Inmates who exhibit these symptoms of psychosis often report experiencing hallucinations, illusions, and intense paranoia, such as a persistent belief that they are being persecuted (Shalev, 2008). In extreme cases, inmates have become paranoid to the point that they exhibit full-blown psychosis that requires hospitalization (Smith, 2006)."
You've been alone for your entire life?? You've never had friends?? Just go out and be confident. Just put yourself out there bro, what do you mean you can't do it?
"Solitary confinement is recognized as difficult to withstand; indeed, psychological stressors such as isolation can be as clinically distressing as physical torture.1,2"
"Psychological effects can include anxiety, depression, anger, cognitive disturbances, perceptual distortions, obsessive thoughts, paranoia, and psychosis.6"
"They live with extensive surveillance and security controls, the absence of ordinary social interaction, abnormal environmental stimuli, often only three to five hours a week of recreation alone in caged enclosures, and little, if any, educational, vocational, or other purposeful activities (i.e., programs)."
How much different is this really from the life of some social outcasts?
"The stress, lack of meaningful social contact, and unstructured days can exacerbate symptoms of illness or provoke recurrence.7 Suicides occur disproportionately more often in segregation units than elsewhere in prison.8–10 All too frequently, mentally ill prisoners decompensate in isolation, requiring crisis care or psychiatric hospitalization. Many simply will not get better as long as they are isolated."
"International treaty bodies and human rights experts, including the Human Rights Committee,18 the Committee against Torture,19,20 and the U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture,21 have concluded that solitary confinement may amount to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment in violation of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights22 and the Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman, and Degrading Treatment or Punishment.23"
Results. Brief Psychiatric Rating Scale (BPRS) results showed clinically significant symptoms of depression, anxiety, or guilt among half of our research sample. Administrative data showed disproportionately high rates of serious mental illness and self-harming behavior compared with general prison populations. Interview content analysis revealed additional symptoms, including social isolation, loss of identity, and sensory hypersensitivity.
"In Washington State, interviewers administered the BPRS to a random sample of 87 incarcerated people during qualitative interviews (and also conducted 122 medical chart reviews),1,9,15 concluding that solitary confinement reveals “a concentration of some of the most important negative effects of the entire prison complex.”1(p1692)"
Sources in order
jaapl.org
As a bonus there's also this old manuscript for anyone who's interested in reading more on the subject.
The author strongly advocated against the use of solitary confinement, he's an expert in this field and he's been cited by almost every study i've used
www.researchgate.net
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@Master @SergeantIncel
It's not a 1:1 comparison but i think this provides a good insight on the damage that LDARing and being a soclial outcast can do to somebody.
tl;dr: Solitary confinement is used all around the world as a way to punish inmates. The United Nations recognize this as a form of TORTURE. Loneliness is so devastating that people would rather be around murderers and rapists than be alone. People would rather risk getting shanked or raped, that's how bad loneliness is.
Forced isolation destroys people's mental health in various ways and even has adverse effects on their physiological health. Some of this mental damage can be permanent. Moreover, the loneliness often leads to self harm and suicide.
Isolated Insanity: The Damaging Effects of Solitary Confinement Isolate
"Solitary confinement is a popular form of punishment in prisons. However, it often results in the deterioration of the inmate’s mental health, especially when it is prolonged. It may lead to severe mental illness or self-harm, including suicide. In addition to the mental health effects, solitary confinement inhibits the rehabilitation process as it limits or eliminates exercise, visitation hours, medical treatment, and group recreation. Without these, many inmates lose their sense of identity and their hold on reality, thereby reducing the odds of successful reentry into society."
"Researchers have shown that isolation is a psychological stressor that can become as distressing as physical torture (Metzner & Fellner, 2010), and may be especially damaging in mentally ill prisoners. "
"Psychological stressors may result in the following: anxiety, depression, obsessive compulsive disorder, paranoia, anger, perceptual distortions, psychosis, panic, insomnia, hallucinations, self-mutilation, suicidal behavior, violence, emotional breakdowns, and withdrawal (Andersen, Sestoft, Lillebaek, Gabrielsen, & Hemmingsen, 2003; Grassian, 1983; Haney, 2003; Haney et al., 2016; Metzner & Fellner, 2010; Pizarro & Stenius, 2004; Shalev, 2011)"
"Anderson and colleagues (2003) reported that a higher risk for mental disorders exists in solitary confinement inmates than in those not exposed to solitary confinement."
"In studies of the psychological consequences of solitary confinement, Haney (2003) utilized both case studies and personal accounts of mental health workers in supermax prisons. He concluded that there is not a single study wherein inmates placed in solitary confinement for more than 10 days did not present negative psychological symptoms (see also, Applebaum, 2015)."
Imagine what being a social outcast for years or decades must do to you. Imagine what LDAR'ing and neeting for years does to someone"Due to the mental deterioration associated with solitary confinement, inmates engage in suicidal behavior and self-harm (Arrigo & Bullock, 2008; Haney, 2003). Self-harm is the leading cause of death among inmates "
Roping and suicidal tendencies are very common among isolated people ... sound familiar?"Solitary confinement also inhibits inmates’ rehabilitation. They are denied access to recreation, regular visitation hours, and proper psychiatric treatment (Haney, 2003; Haney et al., 2016; Pizzaro & Stenius, 2004; Shalev, 2011). Without these vital programs that enhance their living state, inmates will often struggle to adapt to regular society upon their release from prison (Haney et al., 2016). "
Here's a brutal example from the same paper about a teenager who was falsely convicted, placed in isolation, which subsequently destroyed his mental health to the point where his family and friends felt he was off ... this later lead to him roping (literally)
The transformations were illustrated in the case of Kalief, a 16-year-old sent to Rikers Island for allegedly stealing a backpack (Haney et al., 2016). He struggled to adjust to the prison environment and was placed in isolation, where he became increasingly depressed and attempted suicide. After doing so, he spent time in the prison hospital but, upon recovery, was immediately returned to solitary confinement. After three years in prison, the last 17 months in isolation, Kalief was unexpectedly released when a judge decreed that he was innocent. After his release, his friends and family noticed that he was different. He paced around his room and preferred to be alone. He attempted suicide multiple times, and as he continued to struggle with depression and paranoia, he explained, “I’m not all right. I’m messed up. There are certain things that changed about me and they might not go back” (p. 128). He later hanged himself.
Effects of Solitary Confinement on the Well Being of Prison Inmates
"Confined inmates often experience various physiological symptoms, even after a short amount of time in confinement. Isolated inmates often report symptoms similar to those of hypertension, such as chronic headaches, trembling, sweaty palms, extreme dizziness and heart palpitations. (Smith, 2006; Haney, 2003; Shalev, 2008).""Inmates also experience trouble with their eating and digestion, especially within the first three months of solitary confinement (Smith, 2006). A lack of appetite and drastic weight loss is often accompanied with irregular digestion, particularly diarrhea. Inmates in isolation may also have difficulty sleeping, and some may experience insomnia (Smith, 2006; Haney, 2003). Consequently,, inmates report feelings of chronic lethargy (Shalev, 2008)."
Notice how inmates placed in solitary experience the same sleeping issues as lonely people, as previously discussed in this thread i made"Confined inmates experience a multitude of psychological effects, including emotional, cognitive, and psychosis-related symptoms (Smith, 2006; Shalev, 2008). Solitary confinement is considered harmful to the mental health of inmates because it restricts meaningful social contact, a psychological stimulus that humans need in order to remain healthy and functioning (Smith, 2006). Longer stays in solitary confinement are associated with greater mental health symptoms that have serious emotional and behavioral consequences. (Smith, 2006; Shalev, 2008)."
"Confined prisoners also report feelings of panic and rage, including irritability, hostility, and poor impulse control."
"Additionally, they frequently exhibit symptoms of anxiety that vary from low levels of stress to severe panic attacks. Isolated inmates also experience symptoms of depression, such as hopelessness, mood swings, and withdrawal. These depressive symptoms may even escalate to thoughts of self-harm and suicide. As compared to the general prison population, rates of suicide and self-harm, such as cutting and banging one’s head against the cell wall, are particularly high in prisoners assigned to solitary confinement (Haney, 2003; Shalev, 2008; Greist, 2012)."
I think the analogy with this forum is obvious"Cognitive effects of solitary confinement. In addition to having disruptions in their emotional processes, inmates’ cognitive processes tend to deteriorate while they are in isolation. Some confined inmates report memory loss, and a significant portion of isolated inmates report impaired concentration (Smith, 2006; Shalev, 2008). Many are unable to read or watch television since these activities are their few sources of entertainment. Confined inmates also report feeling extremely confused and disoriented in time and space (Haney, 2003; Shalev, 2008)."
LDAR'ing rots your brain. This is sort of cognitive/attention span decline has been talked about a lot on this forum by certain users such as @anon1822"Another confinement related psychological symptom that inmates may experience is disrupted thinking, defined as an inability to maintain a coherent flow of thoughts. This disrupted thinking can result in symptoms of psychosis (Haney, 2003; Shalev, 2008). Inmates who exhibit these symptoms of psychosis often report experiencing hallucinations, illusions, and intense paranoia, such as a persistent belief that they are being persecuted (Shalev, 2008). In extreme cases, inmates have become paranoid to the point that they exhibit full-blown psychosis that requires hospitalization (Smith, 2006)."
You've been alone for your entire life?? You've never had friends?? Just go out and be confident. Just put yourself out there bro, what do you mean you can't do it?Solitary Confinement and Mental Illness in U.S. Prisons: A Challenge for Medical Ethics
"Solitary confinement is recognized as difficult to withstand; indeed, psychological stressors such as isolation can be as clinically distressing as physical torture.1,2"
"Psychological effects can include anxiety, depression, anger, cognitive disturbances, perceptual distortions, obsessive thoughts, paranoia, and psychosis.6"
"They live with extensive surveillance and security controls, the absence of ordinary social interaction, abnormal environmental stimuli, often only three to five hours a week of recreation alone in caged enclosures, and little, if any, educational, vocational, or other purposeful activities (i.e., programs)."
How much different is this really from the life of some social outcasts?"The stress, lack of meaningful social contact, and unstructured days can exacerbate symptoms of illness or provoke recurrence.7 Suicides occur disproportionately more often in segregation units than elsewhere in prison.8–10 All too frequently, mentally ill prisoners decompensate in isolation, requiring crisis care or psychiatric hospitalization. Many simply will not get better as long as they are isolated."
"International treaty bodies and human rights experts, including the Human Rights Committee,18 the Committee against Torture,19,20 and the U.N. Special Rapporteur on Torture,21 have concluded that solitary confinement may amount to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment in violation of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights22 and the Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman, and Degrading Treatment or Punishment.23"
Psychological Distress in Solitary Confinement: Symptoms, Severity, and Prevalence in the United States, 2017–2018
Results. Brief Psychiatric Rating Scale (BPRS) results showed clinically significant symptoms of depression, anxiety, or guilt among half of our research sample. Administrative data showed disproportionately high rates of serious mental illness and self-harming behavior compared with general prison populations. Interview content analysis revealed additional symptoms, including social isolation, loss of identity, and sensory hypersensitivity.
"In Washington State, interviewers administered the BPRS to a random sample of 87 incarcerated people during qualitative interviews (and also conducted 122 medical chart reviews),1,9,15 concluding that solitary confinement reveals “a concentration of some of the most important negative effects of the entire prison complex.”1(p1692)"
Sources in order
Solitary Confinement and Mental Illness in U.S. Prisons: A Challengefor Medical Ethics
In recent years, prison officials have increasingly turned to solitary confinement as a way to manage difficult or dangerous prisoners. Many of the prisoners subjected to isolation, which can extend for years, have serious mental illness, and the conditions of solitary confinement can exacerbate...
As a bonus there's also this old manuscript for anyone who's interested in reading more on the subject.
The author strongly advocated against the use of solitary confinement, he's an expert in this field and he's been cited by almost every study i've used
(PDF) Mental Health Issues in Long-Term Solitary and "Supermax" Confinement
PDF | This article discusses the recent increase in the use of solitary-like confinement, especially the rise of so-called supermax prisons and the... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate
www.researchgate.net
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@Master @SergeantIncel
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