Serious Should mentalcels be considered incels and be allowed to post here moving forward?
He dyed his hair blonde as a wee child just to fit in. AS A CHILD.
Chop them oldcel balls like you mean it.
Many a white chick dyes their hair blonde. The ones that come from privilege and sophistication might do it at a young age. Like Rodger came from privilege and sophistication.
As we all know, these crowds are not overwhelmingly white
As we all know, they're welcoming of minorities of all kind
As we all know, these crowds are not overwhelmingly white
As we all know, they're welcoming of minorities of all kind
I'm not sure what you're saying here. Rodger came from privilege and sophistication, that's why he had the resources as well as the insight to dye his hair as a child. It doesn't mean he was trying to be white any more than a brunette white teenager is trying to be white when she dyes her hair.
That's a point for me, man. Even if (not sufficiently) white people are pressured into doing this, imagine how a rare ethnic must feel.
I'm just going to copy and paste my reply that I left to yet another non-blackpilled autismpill denier on this forum:
Autistic males are more likely to have physically unusual facial traits
Autists are judged as awkward, less physically attractive and less approachable within seconds
69% of high functioning autistic adolescents want relationships, but almost none succeed
People accurately perceive a man's mental health from facial appearance alone
Jesus fuck, you guys are as anti-science as the soys.
https://incels.is/threads/talked-to-a-femoid-at-a-bar.344328/ @Moeggels (More like Mogcels)
The thread got pruned because the faggot OP got mobbed by the forum for blatantly bragging and rightly so, so much to the point where the jannies had to take it down and apply favouritism for some unknown reason since he was given no warnings or bans but they still deleted the thread anyway which is sus. The summary of the post talked about how he met up with his friends at a bar (Normie trait) and a foid offered HIM a drink (
trait ) and OP goes full retard, ending as another one of his volcel scenarios. Either he must have donated a fuck load to the webmaster or he is very popular in the fakecel Discord
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Not my friends. I invited myself in. They all made it painfully obvious that they didn't want me there. The foid only talked to me because she was sitting beside me. She left to go to some nightclub and never even said bye to me.https://incels.is/threads/talked-to-a-femoid-at-a-bar.344328/ @Moeggels (More like Mogcels)
The thread got pruned because the faggot OP got mobbed by the forum for blatantly bragging and rightly so, so much to the point where the jannies had to take it down and apply favouritism for some unknown reason since he was given no warnings or bans but still deleted the thread anyway which is sus. The summary of the post talked about how he met up with his friends at a bar (Normie trait) and a foid offered HIM a drink
I never used Discord.
Like I've said before, I don't necessary care too much about analyzing why someone is an incel, just that they are. So I think they should be welcome.
However, if they are so autistic that they can't make meaningful contributions to the forums, as in the case of @Moeggels who keeps making brag threads or cucked threads while completely unaware of what they are doing, then no I don't think they belong here.
However, if they are so autistic that they can't make meaningful contributions to the forums, as in the case of @Moeggels who keeps making brag threads or cucked threads while completely unaware of what they are doing, then no I don't think they belong here.
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But he's not one. In the eyes of normie society, he's just a white guy. The pressure to be blonde isn't about being whiter, it's because blonde is a pretty color.
Yeah, I wonder why that's the case
Just toss out the only real explanation theory
You're not getting anywhere with this falsehood.
So are brunettes not white?
Yes, but they've got to be legit mentally ill, otherwise they should go straight to the redpillers.
You're lazily trolling at this point so I'll just say, fuck it, yes
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Depends on the mental problem.
If you're just lazy, apathetic, or shy, that's borderline volcel. You know how to socialize, but choose not to.
But if you're a legit dysfunctional autist, that's still incel. You flat out don't know how to interact with people.
People who don't have mental problems at all tend to conflate these groups, since they lack the context to tell the difference. But the former group is limited by their chocies while the latter group is limited by their retardation.
Chads can get away with being autistic. Normies cannot.
If you're just lazy, apathetic, or shy, that's borderline volcel. You know how to socialize, but choose not to.
But if you're a legit dysfunctional autist, that's still incel. You flat out don't know how to interact with people.
People who don't have mental problems at all tend to conflate these groups, since they lack the context to tell the difference. But the former group is limited by their chocies while the latter group is limited by their retardation.
Chads can get away with being autistic. Normies cannot.
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Legit mentalcels - the kind we're talking about here who are actually good looking - are exceedingly rare, to the point of inceldom being a non-issue for them. Even then, the most anxiety-ridden, autismmaxxed, mental case chad is going have pussy literally thrown at him because women will constantly find excuses to hang around him.
The kinds of problems we suffer from that contribute to our inceldom are, first and foremost, physical, not psychological. You can add this to the bucket of mental illness stigmatization, if you like, but inceldom is primarily due to our appearance, not our behavior. If behavior was a legitimate factor, then "personality" wouldn't be a fucking meme, "personalitymaxxing" would actually be a thing here (and elsewhere in the incelosphere), and worst of all: it would mean that Reddit is right, and they would be vindicated in speaking the truth this whole time. Not only that, but there would be massive revisions to the fundamental core of the black pill, because it would mean that it was wrong this entire time and we just have to behave in the correct way to ascend, buddy boyos. Speaking of the black pill, I feintly recall something in the incel wiki about neurodivergent (non-neurotypcial) personality types having no significant negative effect on mating success. I have to double check the wiki.
In sum, "mentalcel" is a meme, like "locationcel" or "carcel." It's just taken more seriously, because some of us actually have the same problems that the "mentalcels" talk about.
The kinds of problems we suffer from that contribute to our inceldom are, first and foremost, physical, not psychological. You can add this to the bucket of mental illness stigmatization, if you like, but inceldom is primarily due to our appearance, not our behavior. If behavior was a legitimate factor, then "personality" wouldn't be a fucking meme, "personalitymaxxing" would actually be a thing here (and elsewhere in the incelosphere), and worst of all: it would mean that Reddit is right, and they would be vindicated in speaking the truth this whole time. Not only that, but there would be massive revisions to the fundamental core of the black pill, because it would mean that it was wrong this entire time and we just have to behave in the correct way to ascend, buddy boyos. Speaking of the black pill, I feintly recall something in the incel wiki about neurodivergent (non-neurotypcial) personality types having no significant negative effect on mating success. I have to double check the wiki.
In sum, "mentalcel" is a meme, like "locationcel" or "carcel." It's just taken more seriously, because some of us actually have the same problems that the "mentalcels" talk about.
This is the closest you've ever gotten to saying nigger, isn't it?
And the other thing? Did you donate any money to the site?
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Tough one.
No such thing as mentalcel. Ban them if they werent such a bragging cunts no one would even know or suspect. We might aswell deny lookism and say being an incel is a choice, and let femcels and betabuxxers in.
@BlkPillPres i voted no. The whole premise of the blackpill is that looks are the determining factor with regards to whether women find you attractive enough to give you sex, to say that someone who is good looking but “shy” or has “anxiety” can’t get women due to these mental problems, is contradictory to the blackpill and invalidates the whole idea that sexual success is primarily dependant on looks (without factoring in money).
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Elliot was a low to mid tier normie mutt. If someone like him ascended without betabuxxing or simping, I'd be very surprised.
Keep mentalcels banned. All you'll be doing is making it easier for normies to LARP by allowing them. And we'll see a lot more bragging.
Keep mentalcels banned. All you'll be doing is making it easier for normies to LARP by allowing them. And we'll see a lot more bragging.
Indeed...
As a young child, I was embarrassed by my "Black-ish" name and referred to myself as "James"(Deceased maternal grandfather's name).
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I am ok looking, but a lot of people are good looking in my country. I'll let the rejections and being ostracized speak for itself instead of this bullshit mentalcel debate. This is just pathetic elitism and gatekeeping by incels that aren't good looking and thinking that looks are the only factor, and denying things like non NT, high inhib, feminine frame, and being scapegoated. Saying that you will not suffer with average looks is beyond delusional cope
1. 6ft tall puts you in the top 15% of height, so by default you are atleast a 6/10 just on your height alone. Your face would have to be a 4/10 to be 5.5/10 and you could probably still pull a bitch with your height.
2. They are both the same shit, the stutterer who flinches can get help with that just like the shy one, the shy one just requires less help. I knew a friend who stuttered a lot (A LOT), met him years later and no stutter. He got rid of it over years of "self coaching" and practice.
There is no "help" for an ugly face and being short
Let me make this simple, people who "have a chance" should not be here.
I know I'm incel because I'm 5'7", dark skinned, with a 5 Inch penis. I think I have an average face at least, but with the previous three traits none of that shit matters. What really lets me know I have no chance is that I am "the funny guy" and IRL I always have people laughing, but that never gets me laid (so all that "just be funny" to get girls shit is all lies). I'm out of shape right now but I did all of my approaching when I was in better shape and even had abs, didn't make a difference.
No 6ft tall "I have a speech impediment" fucker should be on an incel forum with legitimate incels like me here lol. I approached and "improved my personality" and it didn't make a difference because my genetics are trash. Inceldom is about genetics, making it about anything else leaves too many loopholes and results in arbitrary hard to enforce rules.
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This question is an oxymoron because mentalcels don’t exist
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"Mentalcels" don't exist
just like Femcels don't exist.
An incel for me is someone who can't attract the other gender.
A good looking male (no matter what mental state), just like any female, will always have people being attracted to them.
That's why they both cannot be incel / femcel. It cannot exist.
"Mentalcels" are not the same as Incels
We shouldn't mix males that were doomed from birth because of their subhuman genetics (legitimate incels) with males who actually can attract women, but are just too low iq / shy / incapable to close the date or sustain a relationship (failed normies).
There's a difference between the two. They don't mix.
The incel never had a chance and got treated like garbage by everyone because of looks.
The failed normie has plenty of chances (and will always have chances) and doesn't get treated like shit, because he looks good and therefore will always have people being attracted to him.
The incel should be here.
The failed normie should go to websites that teach social dynamics and interaction or treat his mental condition.
Attraction happens through looks, not personality.
If you're good looking, you will always have chances. Women will keep being attracted to you, engage with you, talk to you.
Good looks basically give you infinite chances to improve yourself and eventually ascend.
A genetically trash incel DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
ER was not a "mentalcel"
"But ER was a mentalcel, they do exist"
No. ER was NOT a mentalcel. He was a mixed race, weak chinned, bloaty lipped, MANLET who had no chance versus the 6'2 college Chads in Isla Vista because of looks.
Here's a picture from Isla Vista. How THE FUCK was he supposed to compete with these college Chads? You can even spot the Incel in this picture, probably ER 2.0
The state of the incel community
It honestly feels kind of strange that we have to have this discussion.
I can remember that it was widely accepted that attraction comes from looks and nothing else.
The last time people wanted to tell me that personality/mental health matters was when I read bluepilled reddit posts on IT.
The fact that we have to discuss this on incels.is now just shows how much reddit and normie infiltration has already happened.
Do you see only one good looking mfker in there?
No, you don't.
BECAUSE IT NEVER EVEN WAS A QUESTION IF A GOODLOOKING TALL GUY COULD BE INCEL.
This whole "mentalcel" meme is REDDIT SOY FILTH that came into this forum with all the 2021cel mainstream normies.
The fact that we have to even discuss this here is CONCERNING.
This is literally reddit IT normie user talk.
"Humans are social species" "Just be nice" "Women can sense your personality"
I can't believe this dude isn't banned, yet.
just like Femcels don't exist.
An incel for me is someone who can't attract the other gender.
A good looking male (no matter what mental state), just like any female, will always have people being attracted to them.
That's why they both cannot be incel / femcel. It cannot exist.
"Mentalcels" are not the same as Incels
We shouldn't mix males that were doomed from birth because of their subhuman genetics (legitimate incels) with males who actually can attract women, but are just too low iq / shy / incapable to close the date or sustain a relationship (failed normies).
There's a difference between the two. They don't mix.
The incel never had a chance and got treated like garbage by everyone because of looks.
The failed normie has plenty of chances (and will always have chances) and doesn't get treated like shit, because he looks good and therefore will always have people being attracted to him.
The incel should be here.
The failed normie should go to websites that teach social dynamics and interaction or treat his mental condition.
Attraction happens through looks, not personality.
If you're good looking, you will always have chances. Women will keep being attracted to you, engage with you, talk to you.
Good looks basically give you infinite chances to improve yourself and eventually ascend.
A genetically trash incel DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
ER was not a "mentalcel"
"But ER was a mentalcel, they do exist"
No. ER was NOT a mentalcel. He was a mixed race, weak chinned, bloaty lipped, MANLET who had no chance versus the 6'2 college Chads in Isla Vista because of looks.
Here's a picture from Isla Vista. How THE FUCK was he supposed to compete with these college Chads? You can even spot the Incel in this picture, probably ER 2.0
The state of the incel community
It honestly feels kind of strange that we have to have this discussion.
I can remember that it was widely accepted that attraction comes from looks and nothing else.
The last time people wanted to tell me that personality/mental health matters was when I read bluepilled reddit posts on IT.
The fact that we have to discuss this on incels.is now just shows how much reddit and normie infiltration has already happened.
Just take a look at our Incel Saints.
Do you see only one good looking mfker in there?
No, you don't.
BECAUSE IT NEVER EVEN WAS A QUESTION IF A GOODLOOKING TALL GUY COULD BE INCEL.
This whole "mentalcel" meme is REDDIT SOY FILTH that came into this forum with all the 2021cel mainstream normies.
The fact that we have to even discuss this here is CONCERNING.
Look at the guy
This is literally reddit IT normie user talk.
"Humans are social species"
"Just be nice" "Women can sense your personality" I can't believe this dude isn't banned, yet.
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So you wouldn't allow guys like jsanza on here? This kind of mentalcel is the most likely to die as a lifetime virgin, even leaving the basement let alone escortmaxxing is too much work when you have actual mental issues without a 7.5/10+ face. Actual autists with good looking faces are extremely rare anyway, you'll find they usually have the same phenotype (think Adam Lanza). So by definition it's almost aways a combination of looks & mental/social retardation that makes them truecels.
If you do manage to find someone that looks like David Gandy with autism (good fucking luck) then sure, he shouldn't be here because females will literally be throwing themselves at his cock. He wouldn't even have to talk to the girls or look for any obvious ioi's most autists wouldn't notice.
If you ban "mentalcels" this forum will devolve into an endless cycle of coping short NT ethnics who will tell you it's all about being 6 feet & white which is already slowly happening anyway.
If you do manage to find someone that looks like David Gandy with autism (good fucking luck) then sure, he shouldn't be here because females will literally be throwing themselves at his cock. He wouldn't even have to talk to the girls or look for any obvious ioi's most autists wouldn't notice.
If you ban "mentalcels" this forum will devolve into an endless cycle of coping short NT ethnics who will tell you it's all about being 6 feet & white which is already slowly happening anyway.
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elliot roger mogs some asians i guess but wtf is this gigachad shit? at most a 5 out of 10, got some good features and some bad ones. being asian looking (he's not considered white at a glance lol frothy) and some mental impairment put him right into a standardcel category i'd say
Im confused , if you mean a austisc guy that ascended then no
No because if a doc prescribes them something that finally corrects their mental problems then they can easily ascend
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Guy had Hollywood connections and his looks were enough to slay noodles. He didn't stay in Isla Vista his whole life, he went to Morocco and the UK. He could've ascended there with social skills."Mentalcels" don't exist
just like Femcels don't exist.
An incel for me is someone who can't attract the other gender.
A good looking male (no matter what mental state), just like any female, will always have people being attracted to them.
That's why they both cannot be incel / femcel. It cannot exist.
"Mentalcels" are not the same as Incels
We shouldn't mix males that were doomed from birth because of their subhuman genetics (legitimate incels) with males who actually can attract women, but are just too low iq / shy / incapable to close the date or sustain a relationship (failed normies).
There's a difference between the two. They don't mix.
The incel never had a chance and got treated like garbage by everyone because of looks.
The failed normie has plenty of chances (and will always have chances) and doesn't get treated like shit, because he looks good and therefore will always have people being attracted to him.
The incel should be here.
The failed normie should go to websites that teach social dynamics and interaction or treat his mental condition.
Attraction happens through looks, not personality.
If you're good looking, you will always have chances. Women will keep being attracted to you, engage with you, talk to you.
Good looks basically give you infinite chances to improve yourself and eventually ascend.
A genetically trash incel DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
ER was not a "mentalcel"
"But ER was a mentalcel, they do exist"
No. ER was NOT a mentalcel. He was a mixed race, weak chinned, bloaty lipped, MANLET who had no chance versus the 6'2 college Chads in Isla Vista because of looks.
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Here's a picture from Isla Vista. How THE FUCK was he supposed to compete with these college Chads? You can even spot the Incel in this picture, probably ER 2.0
The state of the incel community
It honestly feels kind of strange that we have to have this discussion.
I can remember that it was widely accepted that attraction comes from looks and nothing else.
The last time people wanted to tell me that personality/mental health matters was when I read bluepilled reddit posts on IT.
The fact that we have to discuss this on incels.is now just shows how much reddit and normie infiltration has already happened.
Just take a look at our Incel Saints.
Do you see only one good looking mfker in there?
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No, you don't.
BECAUSE IT NEVER EVEN WAS A QUESTION IF A GOODLOOKING TALL GUY COULD BE INCEL.
This whole "mentalcel" meme is REDDIT SOY FILTH that came into this forum with all the 2021cel mainstream normies.
The fact that we have to even discuss this here is CONCERNING.
Look at the guy
This is literally reddit IT normie user talk.
"Humans are social species"
I can't believe this dude isn't banned, yet.
why not?
Because good looks + a certain height can make up for mental illness.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92J2CwlkSQ
''Let's be real, this guy is seriously handsome, and so sweet too.''
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[UWSL]Beside the fact that he looks like model material... just beautiful, look at how determined he is. He's overcoming so many of his struggles. He should be so proud of himself. [/UWSL]
Would an incel receive those comments? I don't think so.
There is another video of a real chad with autism, guy got even more comments like those. I'm trying to find it
Because good looks + a certain height can make up for mental illness.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92J2CwlkSQ
''Let's be real, this guy is seriously handsome, and so sweet too.''
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[UWSL]Beside the fact that he looks like model material... just beautiful, look at how determined he is. He's overcoming so many of his struggles. He should be so proud of himself. [/UWSL]''
Would an incel receive those comments? I don't think so.
There is another video of a real chad with autism, guy got even more comments like those. I'm trying to find it
ok fair enough. kinda surprised by those comments, that the guy is on the spectrum is very apparent.
I voted "Other."
Given how loaded the term mentalcel is, this should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.
An average looking autist is easily a permavirgin, but a Chad with anxiety is not.
Given how loaded the term mentalcel is, this should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.
An average looking autist is easily a permavirgin, but a Chad with anxiety is not.
If he’s unaware of it, then that proves the case that he’s a mentalcel and that mentalcels infact do exist and that he belongs here.
Unless you are a chad (which you can't be even with looksmaxxing anyway) your mental state has a huge impact on your success with women. Especially things like autism (even the small amount) keep you looking weird and prevent you acting manipulative to get laid which is pretty much always needed for getting pussy in 2022 for below 6s.
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This is an incel forum, not uhh I struggle with girls subreddit. Others have already covered the issue sufficiently. Attraction is looks, money, status.
To chip in on ER:
ER was a retard and should not be viewed as face of inceldom anyway. His reasoning behind the rampage was utterly idiotic, he did not approach foids besides some autistic screeching and aimed for stacies and high tier beckies in Southern California. He's the face of inceldom in the eyes of braindead redditors who view it as a simple issue of not taking showers, bad personality and not touching the grass.
This is probably the best post ITT.
To chip in on ER:
ER was a retard and should not be viewed as face of inceldom anyway. His reasoning behind the rampage was utterly idiotic, he did not approach foids besides some autistic screeching and aimed for stacies and high tier beckies in Southern California. He's the face of inceldom in the eyes of braindead redditors who view it as a simple issue of not taking showers, bad personality and not touching the grass.
Are you sure? Even when that tall and good looking guy has multiple mental illnesses?
yes er was a giga chadElliot Rodger is perhaps the best ever example of this as physically he had the makings of a male asian giga Chad Hollywood martial arts action star but due to his dual severe mental illnesses of crippling shyness and psychosis, he couldn’t make the proper social connections in order to obtain the type of women that he wanted ie white, blonde and beautiful.
Are you kidding bro
Stop coping there isn’t something called mentalcel
I'm gonna give you guys my story. I'm tall and white but my face is hideous. I managed to fix my face through surgeries (srs) but guess what? Ofcourse I also have mental problems. I have severe depression, bipolar, psychosis, autism, low self esteem, probably borderline, chronic suicidal and even more shit. I cant even leave my fucking bed. Girls hit me up on instagram but i always mess it up because im not NT. So yes, mentalcels exist. Cant win from genetic determinism.
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