Technically, LTNs aren't inkies. I mean, these people are the "masses." They aren't visibly repulsive enough to be vomit-inducing. And unlike Truecels, LTNs have ascension potential. That's why it should be called Sub4 instead of Sub-5 imo.
ok, you go first
Any incel is my brother. So should be yours too
I got rated LTN by .org, but still girls are repulsed by me as much as Sub 5s
People forget that theirs much more to ascending then just looks alone, like height, ethnicity, being nt, etc. if you arent tall or atleast NT as a LTN, then you’re not gonna have a chance at all at ascension, unless you’re willing to betabux.
I believe they should still be allowed if they have no ‘redeeming’ traits to compensate for their face
I believe they should still be allowed if they have no ‘redeeming’ traits to compensate for their face
Do they feel actively disgusted by you?
Not often and not like when i walk past them, but it happens when i talked to them.
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Being a ltn is worse than being an incel
well i have to be real, being ltn woukd give u a chance to atleast mog people below your looks level. Without capping, mogging do give a confidence boost. That's why i loved my trip to malaysia, eventhough i am ugly i'be atleast taller than locals.
Why gatekeep? We need to unite as inkwells under one broad big tent
Yeah, you're LTN then.
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Jfl that’s such low hanging fruit though
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It doesn't matter as long as they haven't had sex, they are still incels.
Unlike Truecels, LTNs+ can get sex. That's the difference and the point, i'm trying to make
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Nah the rate women are going low tier MTNs are gonna be KHHV's soon
if they are incels no, if they aren t incels, then yes!
You could be a 6,2 mtn. But if you have autism, you will have a hard time.
As long as ur an incel, you are allowed
As long as ur an incel, you are allowed
Only if NT
No
If khhv and 20 something yo, no imo. I dont know. I dont trust much ratings, if foids reject or ignore you, thats the best rating system and only that matters.
Why be jealous of a fellow celibate? Seems like a normalfag trait to me.
No. The majority of people on this forum are LTN anyway, so that'd just be banning most people. Actual sub-4s or sub3s are rare. Ltns are def incel in the modern dating scene especially if they aren't tall or neurotypical. A ltn has many facial flaws too
Not only on this forum. Majority of people I encounter are LTN and some Nearcels. Occasionally I might spot a MTN, while HTNs are already rare asf.
I mean, if you're genetically LTN, you still can get sex. It's only at Sub 4, where you don't get anything. Hence it's called Truecel.
Bruh can’t believe as a LTN i’m getting excluded from IS too
Because everyone above a 3 is technically fakecel, except, you're socially beyond retarded
forgot the holy height, neurotypicality and status/money
Brimstone post
for young ones its not
also some of them use fakes, use roids, are very tall or smth to mask their ltness
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Or very short
Depends, If they have any success with foids, ban
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It’s pretty subjective so I don’t mind having them here.
Honestly, now that you've brought my attention to it, I don't think that 'LTN' should be a serious category of people in general.
I voted no, because by definition, this place is only for incels and incels alone. But where does inceldom end and 'LTNdom' begin? I'd imagine it'd be impossible to draw lines between the two since there are so many distinct variables that influence your overall SMV. It'd just be an endless argument as to what quantifies as what.
Still, I do think that there's a difference between an incel and LTN. A LTN can still get laid, even if it's by an unenthusiastic girl who is only doing it out of neccesity—like an Oofy Doofy who gets to have sex with a girl only after she feels like she needs to have it with him by the 8th time he takes her out and pays for dinner. I'm fairly certain that if you're an incel, you can't even get that. Women are so repulsed by you that they don't even want to give you pity sex.
Still, LTNs may as well be considered 'incel-adjacent,' since a lot of them often end up becoming volcels who haven't figured out that they have to spend an insane amount of money and time to achieve a fraction of what normal guys get. It's probably slightly less, if not equally as miserable as the lives that we follow—well, as long as they don't become a full-blown Oofy Doofy or variety of simp, that is.
I voted no, because by definition, this place is only for incels and incels alone. But where does inceldom end and 'LTNdom' begin? I'd imagine it'd be impossible to draw lines between the two since there are so many distinct variables that influence your overall SMV. It'd just be an endless argument as to what quantifies as what.
Still, I do think that there's a difference between an incel and LTN. A LTN can still get laid, even if it's by an unenthusiastic girl who is only doing it out of neccesity—like an Oofy Doofy who gets to have sex with a girl only after she feels like she needs to have it with him by the 8th time he takes her out and pays for dinner. I'm fairly certain that if you're an incel, you can't even get that. Women are so repulsed by you that they don't even want to give you pity sex.
Still, LTNs may as well be considered 'incel-adjacent,' since a lot of them often end up becoming volcels who haven't figured out that they have to spend an insane amount of money and time to achieve a fraction of what normal guys get. It's probably slightly less, if not equally as miserable as the lives that we follow—well, as long as they don't become a full-blown Oofy Doofy or variety of simp, that is.
LTN + ND = incel
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You don't even need to be repulsive to be an incel
Just being aspie is enough
A study showed people pick up something off in under a second in aspie group compared to control group even if both groups did the same things/looked the same
So you always have that subtle vibe you're giving of which many people interpret as creepy and that's in the BEST CASE SCENARIO if you DON'T have the usual different body language/facial expressions etc. which make it even worse than just the subtle aura
Not just that but the worse intuitive social understanding, theory of mind etc. make it hard to figure out what to do/say to get sex even if you do manage to attract girls
Just being aspie is enough
A study showed people pick up something off in under a second in aspie group compared to control group even if both groups did the same things/looked the same
So you always have that subtle vibe you're giving of which many people interpret as creepy and that's in the BEST CASE SCENARIO if you DON'T have the usual different body language/facial expressions etc. which make it even worse than just the subtle aura
Not just that but the worse intuitive social understanding, theory of mind etc. make it hard to figure out what to do/say to get sex even if you do manage to attract girls
Depends on height+frame
Nah everyone who is an incel should be welcome to participate at the very least, we're all struggling here
You mean like 80% of this forum?
Even low mtns can be incel if short and/or ND
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Glad to see most people are reasonable and disagree with the prompt
do you mean trucel? cuz a ltn can be an incel.
If you do mean trucel, then I couldn't disagree more.
Only true khhv-s should be allowed here
Obliterate all others
Obliterate all others
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