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Theory Sex with escorts is better than love in a relationship

:feelskek: This is fucking gold

True. It’s irrational to want selfless love because everybody is self interested.
A former friend once told me that phrase, and it still holds in my mind as one of the realest definition of the real world. The world truly is a Brazzers movie (people fucking each other in the literal and figurative meaning), not a bluepill movie with a catchy soundtrack on the background.

And yes, I once argued in a thread that one can only ever truly "love" oneself, because only your own intrinsic self interests will always be in tune with your being (in the ontological/rational sense). You are the only one who will always sacrifice for yourself, everyone else will do it conditionally (as long as they're profiting from the transaction).


These spooks include "love" (familial, intersexual, and friendly), morals, etc. You need to accept that love is not real in the social sense of the word, like a rock can always be defined in the real world, because it is an exterior experience that can be shared between two viewers (and even that could be and have been philosophically disputed). However, all "spooks" (which could basically encompass all rational beliefs related to social interaction regulation, which go beyond basic human animalistic instincts, which always prevail) are always going to be based on a false notion of a shared experience which, in fact, is not shared, it is only experienced in one's self, and only you can agree 100% with a conveived notion of love, in that way, you can only ever love yourself.

Of course, if you accept genetic determinism and reject metaphysical speculation, you will also understand that these spooks are mere reflections of what your natural composition (your body, genetics and instincts) want you as an animal to do, that is, survive and reproduce. In that sense, even if we believe we have supernatural or special bonds with other beings, in the practical sense we are all using each other for own purpose. In the same way, Stacy uses Chad's beauty for her own needs (showing status, sexual pleasure), and meanwhile uses Melvin for his resources and emotional support. A single mother will use her own son as a beta provider if necessary, a "friend" will gladly step over you if it means getting pussy. A work colleague will also gladly step over you to get a promotion and improve his own living standards. For all of this people will come up with fake moral concepts that are never actually followed, it's only to put an image that humans are civil when they are just the same animals that they were in the beginning, they just have created language and from then on tried to deny the fact that they're just animals.

Knowing all this, you as an incel should always think of yourself first and live for your own pleasure, and for your own notion of what is fair or not. You should see all humans, lovers, friends, family, colleagues and strangers as pre-determined animals (and as a blackpillers, you'll always see a pattern and realize that humans work the same way as mice, it's a simple reward/punishment dynamic, a "positive" or "negative" reinforcement, per say. This gives you a sort of confidence and higher-ground in analysing and dealing with things if you can surpass the emotional damage that can come with the shattering of hardwired bluepilled concepts about reality.

The bold part is in tune with what you say - yes everyone pays for it, Chad pays with his beauty. But when it comes to commitment and sacrifice for someone else in true selfless interest, I don't think Foids can think or act on this level.
 
look at this terra cope
Porn is free. Prostitutes aren't.
Masturbation is always safe. Sex with prostitutes isn't.
Besides, you help foids to make easy money, which isn't very good either.
 
Giga based but from my experiences with escorts they don’t let you fuck bareback, only blowjobs :reeeeee:
That's because you do it in NYC. If you used your sheckels to take some trips overseas you could find bareback more easily.
 
How? Does he become uglier after the payment?
If he did not have his beauty (currency) he would not have access to the pussy (if he was to become disfigured due to an accident no foid would "love" him). Of course it's better than having to pay because Chad doesn't have to put effort into acquiring his wealth (beauty), but I wasn't born Chad, so that hypothesis is out of question for me, and thus I won't be worrying about him getting it "for free".
 
Such as where?
I can say South America, but others have claimed (Eastern) Europe. I don't know about bareback in Asia.
 
If he did not have his beauty (currency) he would not have access to the pussy (if he was to become disfigured due to an accident no foid would "love" him). Of course it's better than having to pay because Chad doesn't have to put effort into acquiring his wealth (beauty), but I wasn't born Chad, so that hypothesis is out of question for me, and thus I won't be worrying about him getting it "for free".
So, in fact, Chads don't really pay at all then.
 
Nothing. You just said they pay, which caught my attention.
It obviously means (in the context of the thread discussion) that it is also transactional, it doesn't mean it reduces Chad's resources, but the transaction is conditional on Chad having such resources, otherwise it wouldn't happen. We were comparing this to the idea that lust for Chad is "love". I never said it's better to pay with money than to "pay" with looks, but I'm not concerned about how Chad pays, I'm worried about how I can pay, since I'm not Chad. I came to terms with reality, have you?
 
How? Does he become uglier after the payment?
yes, he does actually. his looks are a depreciating asset. as time passes he loses what makes him chad and thus loses his sexual market value
 
Porn is free. Prostitutes aren't.
Masturbation is always safe. Sex with prostitutes isn't.
porn is rotting your mind lmao. also, you got to risk it for the biscuits. unironically dis might be why yuo inkwell
Besides, you help foids to make easy money, which isn't very good either.
if it bothers you, just go for the ones who are being pimped out. but this is stupid. you are helping foids make easy money every time you participate in society. you most likely purchase from establishments that employ token foids and give them tons of benefits, for example. and participating in the social order itself is what empowers foids.
 
While chad getting love/intimacy/sex for free, stop being :bluepill: cuck
Chads don't really pay at all then.
You are giving a whore hundreds of dollars for something she gives to chad for free
just because trust fund kids exist doesn't mean i'm not gonna moneymax to become upper middle class. by coping with this, you are actually letting chad cuck you from possible sexual encounters you could be having
 
u have to accept escortcelling is the only way to have sex being a incel :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
 
It obviously means (in the context of the thread discussion) that it is also transactional, it doesn't mean it reduces Chad's resources, but the transaction is conditional on Chad having such resources, otherwise it wouldn't happen. We were comparing this to the idea that lust for Chad is "love". I never said it's better to pay with money than to "pay" with looks, but I'm not concerned about how Chad pays, I'm worried about how I can pay, since I'm not Chad. I came to terms with reality, have you?
Well. Okay. I mean, it's just as if you just show your money and get what you want (yet your money stays with you). Like, you just need to meet certain requirements. And to me, it's something different from a transaction. But anyways.
yes, he does actually. his looks are a depreciating asset. as time passes he loses what makes him chad and thus loses his sexual market value
The thing is, aging doesn't depend on whether he has sex or not. Btw, old Chads still mog normies of their age. Moreover, a 60 year-old Chad definitely mogs a 20 year-old incel, for example. Chads never lose.
porn is rotting your mind
Yeap, that may be true. Though it's not necessary to watch porn. Instead, one can just use his imagination. I did that before I start watching porn. Although I feel like that gave me a weird fetish: a foot fetish.
you are helping foids make easy money every time you participate in society.
But in this case, it's really obvious though. You make them fucking rich. It's not so hard to earn money that way. They don't even do anything extreme or dangerous. They also don't need to be smart or learn something complicated. And so on.
 
doesn't matter. there is opportunity cost.
I mean, as everybody ages, their SMV becomes lower. And eventually, they die. JFL. So, to me, it sounds like a cope.
150 euros
€150 for an hour of doing nothing. Just think about it. Isn't it crazy? For how many hours do you have to work to earn such a sum?
 
I didn't read the post
brutal
which part?

The reason why this is a problem is because repetition dulls the pleasure of things. If you spend a lot of time with a foid developing your relationship, yeah love will start to grow. But also it will be less pleasurable. The initial infatuation will fade away and you will start to see her as a person with flaws instead of your dream girl. You will get sick of doing the same thing every day and want something new.
Because having sex with a bunch of girls just once is itself repetition, which will make escortceling boring. This is what happened to the great lover Don Juan, who fucked a bunch of foids only once because he feared the dulling influences of repetition. But in doing so, he created a routine which turned being a chad into stale monotony
 
You are in denial if you think your ideals pertaining to the nature of a thing transcends its reality(thing-in-itself).

The first part reminded me of some of Friedrich Nietzsche's aphorisms.

Girl's dreams

Aphorisms 400 and 401, Human, All Too Human
it's actually from kierkegaard's either or
 
Theres a reason its the oldest job in history (prostitu
 
How do you do that? I just can't work out the positioning required to kiss someone while fucking their ass in my head.
Not that difficult, she's just riding on top with my dick fully inside.
 
I know the struggle bro. Whores in my country are shit. You have to go through verification to fuck them, they are expensive, and they are all ugly here. That’s why I want to move to europe. When I visited Germany I fucked gigastacy for 150 euros. Western Europe is full of cheap hot east euro whores that I want to fuck
Move to the source, it is cheaper there.
 
@BlkPillPres curious to know your thoughts on this now that you're back
 
@BlkPillPres curious to know your thoughts on this now that you're back
Depends on what the guy wants. For the users obsessed with "love" and "relationships", they just won't be able to comprehend our perspective. But for a man like me who only really wants sex, paying whores to fuck is just superior to dating and gambling for pussy, and degrading myself to women by jestermaxxing and trying to get them to laugh and have fun on dates, just to get laid.

Dating to me actually seems a lot more undignified than the neat and tidy business transaction of prostitution. I really don't think I could stomach it. It just feels so fake. Even in the days when I was approaching women and trying to get numbers it felt so fake, because think about it, you know full well you are only approaching her with the goal of fucking her, she knows that too, but part of "the game" that it's socially normalized as a requirement to play, is that both parties pretend like they are ignorant of this fact and play all these mind games, shit tests, etc.

"Don't respond too fast when texting or it will make you look desperate"
"If she didn't respond to your last message, wait a few days before you re-initiate the conversation"
"Have X body language and tone of voice when you are on a date"
Etc, etc, etc

It's all so tiring and fake. People say "just be yourself", but that's the biggest fucking lie.

NO MAN IS BEING HIS FUCKING SELF WHEN INTERACTING WITH WOMEN.

If I really liked a woman and I was interested in her, I'd text her almost everyday, I wouldn't be policing my body language and tone of voice, and I'd be completely relaxed around her, expecting not to be judged on every millimeter of body movement :feelskek:.

Like someone has said before, women are walking eugenicist automatons, so men literally can't afford to "be themselves" or "just treat women like they're humans", because to do so means that their screen systems will disqualify you from having sex and reproducing.

It's just so disingenuous when people say this shit knowing full well how unrealistic women's standards are.

"Just treat women like they're people bro :soy:"

I will when they stop looking for superman and men can just be average and get laid.


When you go on a date as an average man, you have to "be fake":
Pretend you are interested in how her day was
Pretend you care about her career and financial pursuits (which will never benefit you anyways)
Pretend you care about her bullshit astrology sign nonsense
Pretend you care about her personality and how special she thinks she is, when all of these bitches are 90% similar in their thoughts, beliefs and desires
Make jokes in your attempt to get her to laugh
Do and say things you usually wouldn't do to entertain and amuse her
Plan out talking points and conversations before the date so that there isn't any awkward silence so that she doesn't get bored
Etc, etc, etc

YOU BECOME A WOMAN'S FUCKING BITCH, HER FUCKING JESTER, IF YOU GO OUT ON A DATE AS AN AVERAGE MAN.

Above average men have to do a little faking here and there with some of the things I mentioned above, but they don't have to do much of any of the jestermaxxing shit.

It's all so undignified.

I actually cringe thinking about going on a date, and how different of a person I'd have to pretend to be in order to get laid.

But paying for sex at a brothel just felt like this easy, simple and natural experience. There was no faking, there were no mind games, there were no shit tests, there were no lies, I didn't have to worry about the woman using me for free food and entertainment while laughing in her head about me thinking I had a chance, etc.

It was a simple and honest transaction, and both parties got what they want.

I actually felt "at peace" when I left that brothel, I want to feel that peace again, but I need money in order to do that.
 
Escorting is fun as hell. I have fucked nearly 100 whores since 2017. Was on a spree before Covid, now it's been a long dry spell.

40% of the time I have great chemistry with the whore, and deep french kissing while anal fucking is the best thing ever.

Bothering with courting a women just to get rejected after 2 dates and a month of "getting to know each other" is just wasting time - especially when you know she will drop her panties within 1 hour of conversation with chad.
Bro any good east asian sites for escorts? Heard they filtermaxx hard
 
The problem with love is that it is exclusive. Yes sparkpill exists, attraction starts at first sight. But love is something that needs to develop. Think about who you care more about, someone you've been friends with for years who you spend a lot of time with, or a friend you just met. If a foid gives her "love" out to every guy she meets, it's not actually love, she's just a whore blindly following her passions. Most people in relationships never actually loved. Relationships have kind of evolved into just an excuse to have sex. Furthermore, most incels are incapable of love, since they don't have standards. If you don't have standards, you'd just give your love to any foid who shows interest in you, which makes you a cuck.
This - combined with the fact that I'm a 4 / 10 facially and my father is immature and anti-social - is why I'm incel

90% of women take a heuristic shortcut where they assume "partnership sustainability" is identical with social status. There's a correlation at some level, but most women are too fucking stupid to think about what elements of "social status" and "partnership sustainability" are identical and what elements aren't.

Me, I never gave a fuck about trying to please other people whose highest aspiration in life was trying to find a bar chick to fuck. I always pursued "deeper" shit, and this just alienated me; I was checking out high liturgical churches on Saturdays while people were at the bars

So women saw me as social cancer (because fuckboys saw me as social cancer), so my opportunities were limited anyways.
 
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Quality escorts cost a fair bit of cash, and when I weigh up the pros n cons I don't think it's worth it, as you know it's gona be nothing more than a mandatory transaction.

She will probably fake cumming, awkward professionalisms getting in the way of allowing you to go all out naturally and just annihilating the bitches box, ravaging her body any which way and both deriving the pleasures, etc...

Plus, if im paying that much money i dont want a tunnel a whole bunch of other motors have trafficked up n down either, and that's gona be a definite, obviously, seeing as how this is the bitch's daily bread-n-butter.

So overall,even though it's always something that's tempted me (especially the higher end glam ones), I can't make it past the cost-benefit analysis in the end. The final ratio works out too low against it being an efficient purchase.

pr0n does a good deal of the job at 100% less of the effort or expenditure. Hassle free.
 
I wish I had enough money to escortcel more often, thatsu why a blame the jews
 
Foids are not capable of love anyway. If you are ever in a relationship and you think she loves you. No. she does not. She loves you as much as your potted plant does. They simpley don't have the ability to love. They don't have the higher brain function.
Yes, perfect
 
THHa
The pleasure you get from relationships and love is inferior to that of sex with escorts. I'll never understand why people ACTUALLY feel bad about being a bachelor. It's like feeling bad that you work for Google instead of wageslaving as a janitor JFL. I think a lot of people never think critically about it. It's the conformity and conditioning that makes them think being in a relationship is the way they should be. Or they want it because they can't have it.

The problem with love is that it is exclusive. Yes sparkpill exists, attraction starts at first sight. But love is something that needs to develop. Think about who you care more about, someone you've been friends with for years who you spend a lot of time with, or a friend you just met. If a foid gives her "love" out to every guy she meets, it's not actually love, she's just a whore blindly following her passions. Most people in relationships never actually loved. Relationships have kind of evolved into just an excuse to have sex. Furthermore, most incels are incapable of love, since they don't have standards. If you don't have standards, you'd just give your love to any foid who shows interest in you, which makes you a cuck.

The reason why this is a problem is because repetition dulls the pleasure of things. If you spend a lot of time with a foid developing your relationship, yeah love will start to grow. But also it will be less pleasurable. The initial infatuation will fade away and you will start to see her as a person with flaws instead of your dream girl. You will get sick of doing the same thing every day and want something new. With a relationship, you supposedly lock down a foid for consistent, regular sex (ymmv with this :p), but for this reason, the sex will be shit too. This is EMPIRICALLY VERIFIED psychology, the Coolidge Effect. The more guys fuck one girl, the less pleasure they feel from her and the more aroused they get from other foids. Think about when you are gooning to porn mommies. When you goon too much to one foid, you get bored of her and switch to other ones.

Two of the advantages of escortceling is that you are free to do it with multiple foids, and you get to skip the bullshit and get right to the fun. This means that with escortceling, you get diversity to break up the repetition, and you don't have to do bullshit like jestermax the foid that would make you grow bored of her. They say escorts aren't real life, it's a fantasy. I say this only ENHANCES the experience, because real life is often disappointing. The human condition is miserable. It's more pleasurable to entertain my dream of a stacy than settle down with an average looking foid. I don't want the illusion shattered. I don't want to get to know her.

Now, I will address four arguments I anticipate seeing. One:

In making any kind of argument like this, you betray yourself by admitting that the worth of love is based on pleasure, thereby invalidating your own argument.

Two:

You are doing it wrong then. Because having sex with a bunch of girls just once is itself repetition, which will make escortceling boring. This is what happened to the great lover Don Juan, who fucked a bunch of foids only once because he feared the dulling influences of repetition. But in doing so, he created a routine which turned being a chad into stale monotony. Thankfully, with escortceling, you have the freedom to do what you want. You can take a more measured approach that will allow you to fully enjoy the escorts while at the same time avoiding repitition.

Three:

Nothing is free. If the product is free, then you're the product. Everybody pays for sex. Just in different ways. I have heard people say that it is better to be chad and pay with your looks. But why would you care how the foid feels? By wanting her to like it, you are being a slave to foids desires. This is the foid worshipping instinct.

Four:

Just pay for bareback
That's the most based post I've seen here since I joined
 
The problem with sex outside marriage, which is fornication, is that it transmits demons between people. So if you fuck a demon ridden whore you will get demons from her. Demons are not nice, they can be many things, none of them good. Like depression, anxiety, uncontrollable lust and even some sickness.

I highly discourage people from doing fornication. Get a wife. Only in marriage there is no demon transfer.
 
Foids are not capable of love anyway. If you are ever in a relationship and you think she loves you. No. she does not. She loves you as much as your potted plant does. They simpley don't have the ability to love. They don't have the higher brain function.
Yeah, i lean in this directions too. The lack higher brain functions.
 
The problem with sex outside marriage, which is fornication, is that it transmits demons between people. So if you fuck a demon ridden whore you will get demons from her. Demons are not nice, they can be many things, none of them good. Like depression, anxiety, uncontrollable lust and even some sickness.

I highly discourage people from doing fornication. Get a wife. Only in marriage there is no demon transfer.
Based:feelsohh:
 
A life-history paradigm has replaced the r/Kselection paradigm, but continues to incorporate its important themes as a subset of life history theory.[7] Some scientists now prefer to use the terms fast versus slow life history as a replacement for, respectively, rversus K reproductive strategy.[
 
indeed it is better one day i will try with no condom
 
This is explained by r/K selection theory.

r-selected men just desire to fuck fuck fuck fuck and have low desire for relationships.
K-selected men have a desire for comfort, connection, affection and other relationship goals in addition to sex.

K-selected men have the typical beta behavior, who thinks "pump and dump" is "ugly" and "wrong", and desires to "find love".
r-selected men have the typical chad behavior who thinks "relationships" is just "drama" and "waste of time" and desires to inseminate and flee.

Both exist in society (and even in this incel community), and both behaviors are "valid" (biologically healthy).

r-selected incels just crave the pussy and are often content with escorts, whores, and inseminating SEA sluts.
K-selected incels crave a supportive and affectionate relationship and can only be content with robot waifus -- if ever.
same r/K theory applies to women too.
 
This is explained by r/K selection theory.

r-selected men just desire to fuck fuck fuck fuck and have low desire for relationships.
K-selected men have a desire for comfort, connection, affection and other relationship goals in addition to sex.

K-selected men have the typical beta behavior, who thinks "pump and dump" is "ugly" and "wrong", and desires to "find love".
r-selected men have the typical chad behavior who thinks "relationships" is just "drama" and "waste of time" and desires to inseminate and flee.

Both exist in society (and even in this incel community), and both behaviors are "valid" (biologically healthy).

r-selected incels just crave the pussy and are often content with escorts, whores, and inseminating SEA sluts.
K-selected incels crave a supportive and affectionate relationship and can only be content with robot waifus -- if ever.
r/K is not just two seperate categories but instead two opposite ends of a spectrum with some men and women having characteristics of both
 
based maybe if i have enough money in the future i'll look into whoremaxxing.
 
Cope harder mate, as someone who contemplates going to an escort myself I can say for sure that nothing can replace real love and effction. I never had a gf, but from my relationship with femily and the relationship that I have with my dvindling friends, geniune relationships are irriplaceble.

Sadly 90% of w0men if not more are not capble of feeling geniune love and effection and if they do then its for chad only.

Im not against escortceling, but don't try to delude yourself that an escort is better then geniune love and companionship.
 
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Depends on what the guy wants. For the users obsessed with "love" and "relationships", they just won't be able to comprehend our perspective. But for a man like me who only really wants sex, paying whores to fuck is just superior to dating and gambling for pussy, and degrading myself to women by jestermaxxing and trying to get them to laugh and have fun on dates, just to get laid.

Dating to me actually seems a lot more undignified than the neat and tidy business transaction of prostitution. I really don't think I could stomach it. It just feels so fake. Even in the days when I was approaching women and trying to get numbers it felt so fake, because think about it, you know full well you are only approaching her with the goal of fucking her, she knows that too, but part of "the game" that it's socially normalized as a requirement to play, is that both parties pretend like they are ignorant of this fact and play all these mind games, shit tests, etc.

"Don't respond too fast when texting or it will make you look desperate"
"If she didn't respond to your last message, wait a few days before you re-initiate the conversation"
"Have X body language and tone of voice when you are on a date"
Etc, etc, etc

It's all so tiring and fake. People say "just be yourself", but that's the biggest fucking lie.

NO MAN IS BEING HIS FUCKING SELF WHEN INTERACTING WITH WOMEN.

If I really liked a woman and I was interested in her, I'd text her almost everyday, I wouldn't be policing my body language and tone of voice, and I'd be completely relaxed around her, expecting not to be judged on every millimeter of body movement :feelskek:.

Like someone has said before, women are walking eugenicist automatons, so men literally can't afford to "be themselves" or "just treat women like they're humans", because to do so means that their screen systems will disqualify you from having sex and reproducing.

It's just so disingenuous when people say this shit knowing full well how unrealistic women's standards are.

"Just treat women like they're people bro :soy:"

I will when they stop looking for superman and men can just be average and get laid.


When you go on a date as an average man, you have to "be fake":
Pretend you are interested in how her day was
Pretend you care about her career and financial pursuits (which will never benefit you anyways)
Pretend you care about her bullshit astrology sign nonsense
Pretend you care about her personality and how special she thinks she is, when all of these bitches are 90% similar in their thoughts, beliefs and desires
Make jokes in your attempt to get her to laugh
Do and say things you usually wouldn't do to entertain and amuse her
Plan out talking points and conversations before the date so that there isn't any awkward silence so that she doesn't get bored
Etc, etc, etc

YOU BECOME A WOMAN'S FUCKING BITCH, HER FUCKING JESTER, IF YOU GO OUT ON A DATE AS AN AVERAGE MAN.

Above average men have to do a little faking here and there with some of the things I mentioned above, but they don't have to do much of any of the jestermaxxing shit.

It's all so undignified.

I actually cringe thinking about going on a date, and how different of a person I'd have to pretend to be in order to get laid.

But paying for sex at a brothel just felt like this easy, simple and natural experience. There was no faking, there were no mind games, there were no shit tests, there were no lies, I didn't have to worry about the woman using me for free food and entertainment while laughing in her head about me thinking I had a chance, etc.

It was a simple and honest transaction, and both parties got what they want.

I actually felt "at peace" when I left that brothel, I want to feel that peace again, but I need money in order to do that.
Very based! Also regular foids hates escortmaxxer because we can’t jester to them and get play. Escortmaxer respect his time and resources and can detect foid stupid games easily. No wonder why they will never make prostitution legal because if they do it will diminish foid leverage in the dating market. Can you believe it’s legal for two dudes to have sex but for you to see female prostitute is illegal because of moral compass lol.
 
This did not age well
 
Im 28yo virgin, never even experienced love. How can u talk about something when u never experienced it. Jfl
 
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