Russia is a disgrace to the European family of nations.

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

There are a lot of lies in Russia, and I don't believe any Russian statistics, there is an illusion everywhere. Many in the world sincerely believed that Russia had the second most powerful army in the world and that, as a result, the trench war would last for years for some villages.

Isnt Ukraine using Nato equipment and using Nato mercenaries? So is it not correct to say this is a war between Russia and Nato?

 

[DarkStar]

Isnt Ukraine using Nato equipment and using Nato mercenaries? So is it not correct to say this is a war between Russia and Nato?

More accurately a proxy-war

An actual war would consist of an official declaration & NATO sending actual enlisted soldiers to the frontlines alongside actual attacks such as airstrikes or blockades on Russian land or ports.

 

[DarkStar]

Everything you wrote is standard for modern europe. Its standard for the whole world, in fact.

True, it's just because even on here we have "based n' trad Russia" shills

Russians and slavs are the only europeans with balls in my book. They're strong, warriors and never back down. I never met a russian who was pathetic.

I do like Slavs, but dont neglect other Whites

Celts fought in the revolution here in the US, and also were some of the most feared fighting regiments in the British, Union, Confederate, and Canadian militaries.

The hate towards russia and slavs is unjustified, originating from western fears of losing territory to the growing slavic arm. A fear that subconsciously persists in modern westerners.

I don't want another brother war

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

More accurately a proxy-war

An actual war would consist of an official declaration & NATO sending actual enlisted soldiers to the frontlines alongside actual attacks such as airstrikes or blockades on Russian land or ports.

Ok its an official war between Ukraine and Russia but truth is that all Nato countries are constantly sending weapons and mercenaries. What do think Ukraine does with the money it gets? It hires skilled well trained former military from Nato countries with the blessings of those countries.

If all that equipment, money and human man power was thrown at any other country it would have collapsed by now. In that regard objectively Russia is actually doing tremendously well in this.

I do not support either side , fact remains OP said Russia is fighting trench warfare for a few villages but overlooked the trillions Nato pumped into this war and the huge amount of man power.

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

All European countries are disgraces now. I used to be very Pro-Russia but I’ve realized that not a single government on planet earth has the white man’s interests in mind.

Thats not the fault of any politician. People get the government they deserve. Before USA was 90% white and the whites themselves voted for a government that created the Western world we have now.

So blame your own whites and blame any government because you can do a military coup anytime or vote for pro white policies. Just saying

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Ok its an official war between Ukraine and Russia but truth is that all Nato countries are constantly sending weapons and mercenaries. What do think Ukraine does with the money it gets? It hires skilled well trained former military from Nato countries with the blessings of those countries.

If all that equipment, money and human man power was thrown at any other country it would have collapsed by now. In that regard objectively Russia is actually doing tremendously well in this.

I do not support either side , fact remains OP said Russia is fighting trench warfare for a few villages but overlooked the trillions Nato pumped into this war and the huge amount of man power.

Yes, but mercenaries and weapons are not legally equal to participation in the war, if it were not for arms supplies from the USSR and military instructors, the United States would have won in Vietnam. To say that the Russian Federation is at war with the entire NATO bloc in Ukraine is the same as the United States is fighting against the Warsaw Pact in Vietnam

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

Yes, but mercenaries and weapons are not legally equal to participation in the war, if it were not for arms supplies from the USSR and military instructors, the United States would have won in Vietnam. To say that the Russian Federation is at war with the entire NATO bloc in Ukraine is the same as the United States is fighting against the Warsaw Pact in Vietnam

Thats similar but also very different. Also China was involved in the Vietnam war.

The difference is that now Ukraine uses Nato mercenaries who are ex military not rice eating bare footed peasants. Thats the difference and if add all the equiment Nato countries send to Ukraine it really adds up.

I guess you are correct but I am also correct. It all depends on how you look at it though. In my definition Russia is fighting a Nato funded and equiped army on one side and a Ukranian army on the other side.

Thats what makes this war unique, thats what I am trying to say. Do you understand what I mean now?

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Yes, I understood, but the USSR also gave the Viet Cong a lot of weapons for free: from tanks, then Kalashnikov assault rifles, rpg7 and manpads, as far as I know, the USSR military trained the Viet Cong and on the territory of North Vietnam directly.

Thats similar but also very different. Also China was involved in the Vietnam war.

The difference is that now Ukraine uses Nato mercenaries who are ex military not rice eating bare footed peasants. Thats the difference and if add all the equiment Nato countries send to Ukraine it really adds up.

I guess you are correct but I am also correct. It all depends on how you look at it though. In my definition Russia is fighting a Nato funded and equiped army on one side and a Ukranian army on the other side.

Thats what makes this war unique, thats what I am trying to say. Do you understand what I mean now?

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

Yes, I understood, but the USSR also gave the Viet Cong a lot of weapons for free: from tanks, then Kalashnikov assault rifles, rpg7 and manpads, as far as I know, the USSR military trained the Viet Cong and on the territory of North Vietnam directly.

yes thats true and Nato did the same in Afghanistan.

Infact USSR and China also decolonised Africa from Rhodesia to South Africa to Angola, Mozambique. Mostly with Soviet weaponry.

But I am focusing specifically on the aspect that Nato is actively sending experienced ex military to Ukraine and arming them. Thats what I am focusing on and thats what makes this war different , at least in my opinion, I want to make it clear thats its just my opinion and I think Russia is actually doing well considering this fact. Although I could still be wrong and just a keyboard warrior writing stuff thats incorrect

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

yes thats true and Nato did the same in Afghanistan.

Infact USSR and China also decolonised Africa from Rhodesia to South Africa to Angola, Mozambique. Mostly with Soviet weaponry.

But I am focusing specifically on the aspect that Nato is actively sending experienced ex military to Ukraine and arming them. Thats what I am focusing on and thats what makes this war different , at least in my opinion, I want to make it clear thats its just my opinion and I think Russia is actually doing well considering this fact. Although I could still be wrong and just a keyboard warrior writing stuff thats incorrect

In fact, Russia will have to rebuild its army for at least 15 years, rebuild tanks, ships, planes, and other military equipment. To re-train and create an officer and professional non-commissioned officer corps. It's need time and many money.

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

In fact, Russia will have to rebuild its army for at least 15 years, rebuild tanks, ships, planes, and other military equipment. To re-train and create an officer and professional non-commissioned officer corps. It's need time and many money.

That means Russia has to win in Ukraine or be conquered by the West and destroyed. 15 years is a long time