Before you type anything, pleae read my whole answer to this because I really do not want to get this conversation even more out of hand. I also do not want any spergfest here.
Caesercel said:
Black Nationalism can ONLY work in the west, if it ever could that is.
Why can it "ONLY" work there while at the same time white people would prevent it? Is not that kinda contradictory in the first place? So, in the end, it does not work at all. But of course it can work or at least the mere idea of it - so, I know from where you are coming from here and I am not misinterpreting your point. But why only "THERE"? It can work everywhere else as well where black people are and it would work even better if there would only be black people in order to perform a homogenous society. This is what this thread is also about:
Legendarywristcel said:
End of the day, people should try to stay in their home contries. This will prevent race-based hypergamy and also makes sure that people contribute to developing their own homes.
In the end, you are actually confirming my assumption because if you would remove white people from the USA (The West), then, according to you, black nationalism could work. That means, that black nationalism could work everywhere else as well as long other racial groups do not interfere. Which means that homogenous societies would be the best concept to it or in other words:
Legendarywristcel said:
End of the day, people should try to stay in their home contries.
Caesercel said:
Imagine a black nationalist movement in Africa, redundant and meaningless.
Why is it redundant and meaningless? And how is it redundant and meaningless if black people in Africa can cause a medial uproar?
Caesercel said:
Again denying all identites except racial ones is low iq cope.
You are the one who is once again coping hard.
I am talking about "racial identities" because this thread is about races etc.
There is no need to talk about other "identities" or most likely made up identities. What identity do you want to bring anyway?
Caesercel said:
By middle class I meant even middle class children can understand that race is not the only be all end all.
This thread is about races etc. we do not need to bring up other made up identities. I mean, we could bring up political identities, but once again, politics are influenced by certain people, sometimes even by specific races. If you go to a certain country you will find a large group of politicians who belong to a specific race of that country in order to represent that country. Cultural and religious backgrounds are also influenced by specific races.
Different races = different politics and a different view of politics, different cultural and religious background
In the end, it is what it is and there is nothing I or you can do about it whether we like that or not. But as someone who is blackpilled, you should actually be aware of the predetermined factors which is called genetics (different races = different genetics = different outcome).
Caesercel said:
If that were the case white Europeans would not have been killing each other for the last 1000 years but united themselves in a single White European nation.
There are taxonimcal differences though, yet I do still partly agree that a pointless war within a homogenous race is indeed not very productive and I also criticise historical events like this, specially when it comes to Germany for example. On top of that, I also do criticise current events.
Caesercel said:
The fact that you don't see how dumb this sounds, is astounding.
I am not trying to attack you here but I want to get more real because this is about to become a spergfest and I do not want to be involved in spergfests anymore. It is annoying...
You are misinterpreting my point once again. There is no fact, in fact, you did not brought up any facts whatsoever. You are coping by wanting to bring up made up identities which has nothing to do with this thread here. Let me give you a fact: Instead of trying to sound smart, you should perhaps accept the fact that you do not know much about this topic and maybe you should just concede because you are unable to get the concept and ideas and you are still misinterpreting my point.
Caesercel said:
Race based hypergamy would end anyway when everyone is a hapa.
Caesercel said:
Then people would select for those who have "more white genes". Just like what curries and latinos do now.
First you say that race based hypergamy would find an end - and in the next statement you say, that females would just go for the one with "more white genes".
Let us try to settle this because I really do not want to waste more time here.
Ok, I will once again try to explain my point:
If I would be In Japan - I should go back to my homeland, to my own people. It is also the other way around.
If a Ghanaian would be in the USA for example - he should go back to Ghana, to his homeland and to his own people. This thread is based on simple heritage and therefore valid.
Keep in mind, I am also not talking about a made up political identity which would be ultimately used as a proxy movement with racial ideas and concepts in the end.
I hope, that this will not turn into an some spergfest here...