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In the past before women had rights, jobs, etc, that cute girl you spotted in the village had nothing else to do but her chores and to try and find a husband to have children with, that's it

Fast forward to the modern era and that woman you are approaching in the street has a job, bills to pay, a current BF and/or Ex-BF problems (on top of various orbiters and men she has on the back burner)

That woman you are approaching may very well be on her way to work, rushing to make it in time for that big proposal she has to make or that important meeting

Women having rights and the ability to work, HAS EXTREMELY MAGNIFIED THEIR HYPERGAMY

So its not that being average isn't enough, its much worse, things have changed a lot, its that being average isn't enough for a woman who has the same resources as you, women always want a man with more, they always want to date up, for the poor village girl an average man with an average salary is "dating up", for that woman who is a lawyer or secretary at some high up business, she has many other suitors outside of your league

SO YOU APPROACHING HER IS LITERALLY A WASTE OF HER TIME AND MONEY

Women have to work too now, a woman will reject you extra harshly if you interrupt her day time routine because you are impeding her financial prospects by wasting her time

If you were Chad she'd make the time of course because then it isn't a waste, Chad genetics has monetary value, women want to "lock down" a Chad if possible and produce his children, but an average man approaching an average everyday working woman is literally costing her money in her eyes

Women want to get promotions to, and you making her even 5 mins late for work lowers her chances

The worst thing society ever did was to set things up so that men and women are competing against eachother on the same things, because before men were the archers and women were just "targets", now all the targets also have shields and bows of their own, so they are blocking all of your shots and taking shots of their own at the archers they prefer, its like a weird upside down world where inanimate objects have life and consciousness, nothing like this really exists anywhere else in this world

Among all the other animals, females have defined and restricted roles and so do the males, so every male essentially has SOME WORTH

But in human society we've made it so that females have access to all roles, so some males end up essentially have NO WORTH AT ALL

That's why approaching as an average or even slightly below average male is a waste of time, because your approaches are no longer effective, because you are worth way less in comparison to the male collective
 
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so basically if you aren't chad then it's over
 
Every single successful civilization in the history of mankind was a patriarchy
 
I agree with what you said. But its also the case that being used for your ability to provide is quite different from being desired for genetic value.
 
I agree with most of it. A woman who is a lawyer or secretary looks for someone to enhance them not their equal but it usually fails if their aggressive and the dude runs away because he ain’t got time for that.
 
I agree with what you said. But its also the case that being used for your ability to provide is quite different from being desired for genetic value.

Men never cared about "being desired for their genetic value" they just cared about having sex and reproducing, its women who always cared about that shit, too many men today are thinking and speaking as if they are women, and that's because since the game has been altered we have essentially become women in society, we have to now compete based on looks as they always did
 
so basically if you aren't chad then it's over
Yet cucks on this forum will talk about how if you're confident as a normie you'll fo fine.
 
Men never cared about "being desired for their genetic value" they just cared about having sex and reproducing, its women who always cared about that shit, too many men today are thinking and speaking as if they are women, and that's because since the game has been altered we have essentially become women in society, we have to now compete based on looks as they always did

In traditional societies, betabuxxing was the norm and female desires couldn't be expressed freely. Made sense that most men were providers back then.

But in today's world, attracting a foid with your ability to provide is shooting yourself in the foot.
 
But in today's world, attracting a foid with your ability to provide is shooting yourself in the foot.

Depends on where you do it, traditional societies still exist, most men are just unwilling to make the sacrifices required to enter them and get a traditional wife, I'd have no problem secretly watching anime in my basement if I can get a young virgin muslim wife, I'll eat some pork in the basement once a month too JFL

Very few incels would adopt islam as their religion and move to an islamic state, and ironically a lot of incels could "ascend" that way, some are complete volcels and don't want any woman that isn't white, this forum is seriously a joke at this point
 
I agree with what you said. But its also the case that being used for your ability to provide is quite different from being desired for genetic value.

Being that it's impossible for humans to directly perceive anyone's genome, women do not select for a man's genotype, his genes as such, rather his phenotype: his gene expression. The latter category encompasses every aspect of an organism, it's looks AND behavior, because there is nothing an organism does for which it's genes are not implicated. Therefore, in evolutionary terms, there's no difference between being selected for your provider capacity versus the shape of your facial bones. The only difference lies in the physiology of the woman's arousal response, which you really shouldn't give a fuck about.
 
Depends on where you do it, traditional societies still exist, most men are just unwilling to make the sacrifices required to enter them and get a traditional wife, I'd have no problem secretly watching anime in my basement if I can get a young virgin muslim wife, I'll eat some pork in the basement once a month too JFL

Very few incels would adopt islam as their religion and move to an islamic state, and ironically a lot of incels could "ascend" that way, some are complete volcels and don't want any woman that isn't white, this forum is seriously a joke at this point

Betabuxxing is a complete waste of time and effort. Escorts are a much better option.
Therefore, in evolutionary terms, there's no difference between being selected for your provider capacity versus the shape of your facial bones.

You're quite mistaken here. Foids have completely different strategies when it comes to betabux vs chad. Its not just the arousal response. Chad gets sex simply because of genetic value. As a provider, you would be expected to take her out on many dates before she even considers you as an option. Foids are more likely to withhold sex to seek long term commitment (aka money and resources) from a provider. With chad, there is no withholding of sex.
 
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Betabuxxing is a complete waste of time and effort. Escorts are a much better option.

Depends on where you are escortcelling, escortcelling is the better deal in a sense and I plan on doing it, but STD's have made such a life tiresome and prone with risk, the risk isn't really all that high if you use a condom, but I want to fuck raw, I want to feel what its like to release my load deep inside a bitch, you can't really do that with a whore

What we call betabuxxing today is what a normal relationship in the past was, men just didn't used to get cucked so often, so it wasn't referred to in such a derogatory way like "betabuxxing"

So betabuxxing isn't really a waste if done in the right society, that keeps women in line and enforces monogamy

Even if my wife did cheat on me, she'd be exiled, she'd get none of my money, she may even be killed, and I'd just get a new wife

Betabuxxing in an islamic society means being able to have consistent and risk free access to sex, I like how comfy the thought of that feels

You're quite mistaken here. Foids have completely different strategies when it comes to betabux vs chad. Its not just the arousal response. Chad gets sex simply because of genetic value. As a provider, you would be expected to take her out on many dates before she even considers you as an option. Foids are more likely to withhold sex to seek long term commitment (aka money and resources) from a provider. With chad, there is no withholding of sex.

I think you are the mistaken one, a wealthmaxxed man can move to a strict islamic society (in some islamic state) and basically buy a young wife, and she has to fuck him on their wedding night, I'm not planning to take part in "new age westernized islam", I want to move to a true islamic state, and I will have no problem adopting their culture and language if it gains me what I desire
 
but STD's have made such a life tiresome and prone with risk, the risk isn't really all that high if you use a condom
Do they allow you to fuck raw? I'm thinking if they allow an incel to fuck them raw that they allow anyone average or chad-tier looks dude fuck them raw. Basically it would be very dangerous. The only exception would be if you were the first man to suggest to the prostitute to fuck you raw. Like if the prostitute is new to the job.
 
Betabuxxing is a complete waste of time and effort. Escorts are a much better option.


You're quite mistaken here. Foids have completely different strategies when it comes to betabux vs chad. Its not just the arousal response. Chad gets sex simply because of genetic value. As a provider, you would be expected to take her out on many dates before she even considers you as an option. Foids are more likely to withhold sex to seek long term commitment (aka money and resources) from a provider. With chad, there is no withholding of sex.
My point is that everything an organism does is reflective of it's "genetic value." Your genes express themselves through your phenotype, which includes your behavior.
 
The only exception would be if you were the first man to suggest to the prostitute to fuck you raw. Like if the prostitute is new to the job.

That's why it would be best to go to the phillipines and aim for younger whores, less likely to have STD's, if you have to pay extra for the reduced risk and the enjoyment of a younger foid, then so be it, but extra won't be much to you anyways if you have US dollars and you are wealthmaxxed

It would be like the difference between buying one pack of ramen and buying a case of them
 
I think you are the mistaken one, a wealthmaxxed man can move to a strict islamic society (in some islamic state) and basically buy a young wife, and she has to fuck him on their wedding night, I'm not planning to take part in "new age westernized islam", I want to move to a true islamic state, and I will have no problem adopting their culture and language if it gains me what I desire

Moving to an Islamic state is not a viable solution to anyone here. Why dont you try it and let us know ?
My point is that everything an organism does is reflective of it's "genetic value." Your genes express themselves through your phenotype, which includes your behavior.

Everything that we do has a genetic basis. But when i said genetic value, i meant innate value of the genetics as perceived by the opposite sex.

Take for example two cases :

A fat balding guy who is wealthmaxxed.

A chad with a good shoulder to waist ratio, well defined jaw line, hunter eyes, great head of hair but extremely poor.

Now if you sum up their overall genetic value, it might be somewhat the same. What the slob lacks for in his looks, he makes up for by earning a lot of money. But he will never experience the lust that foids have for chad. Chad signals reproductive fitness while the balding guy signals that he can provide money and resources.

Innate genetic value is rare and hence highly coveted by foids.
 
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Master IQ
Also this
too many men today are thinking and speaking as if they are women, and that's because since the game has been altered we have essentially become women in society, we have to now compete based on looks as they always did
 
SO YOU APPROACHING HER IS LITERALLY A WASTE OF HER TIME AND MONEY
I don't care about wasting a whore's time and money. That's a good thing.
 
Its it less viable than remaining a permavirgin and complaining online for the rest of your life?

I think many people would simply rather eat pork than have sex if they have to choose between these two.
 
Only chance the average male has to “ascend” I use the word ascend lightly because it’s really not “ascending” is to be a total wage slave and betabux a used up foid who’s looking to settle while providing for her while she has been on cock carousel during her prime.

Just walking around on the weekend in any major western city and you will see beta providers with their wife and “children” You can tell she’s not with him for pure love and affection, it’s just transactional and non-mutual, just be a good daddy to the kids and you may get starfish sex one a month. Isn’t worth the time or investment and sooner the average male realises it the better.
 
What we call betabuxxing today is what a normal relationship in the past was, men just didn't used to get cucked so often, so it wasn't referred to in such a derogatory way like "betabuxxing"

Any kind of relationship with a woman is very stressful for a man and it was always like this. This is why Chads (men with options) prefer to just pump and dump.

Marriage was never something men should look forward to. Because of this, men in the past expected to get something in return and this was very similar in every civilized and semi-civilized culture. This is why in the past, men who wanted to get married got these things in return: a young virgin wife, a patriarchal society which gives man the power in marriage, a guarantee that children are actually theirs and a guarantee that there are mechanisms/punishments in society that prevent wife from cheating. If you are a man and you want to get into marriage without every single one of these four things guaranteed, you're just begging for trouble.

Modern Western society doesn't give you any of those things (well technically you can test paternity, but some countries don't even allow that).

I can't understand how men would still want to get married in such situation. As a man, you're actually doing society a favor by getting married and you're not getting anything in return? It shouldn't work like this and it actually doesn't if you look at the state of society now.
 
Men never cared about "being desired for their genetic value" they just cared about having sex and reproducing, its women who always cared about that shit, too many men today are thinking and speaking as if they are women, and that's because since the game has been altered we have essentially become women in society, we have to now compete based on looks as they always did

Sums it up.
 
Solar system IQ.
 
Do they allow you to fuck raw? I'm thinking if they allow an incel to fuck them raw that they allow anyone average or chad-tier looks dude fuck them raw. Basically it would be very dangerous. The only exception would be if you were the first man to suggest to the prostitute to fuck you raw. Like if the prostitute is new to the job.
I've heard before they let u do raw if ur good looking but still very rare n risky af.

No prostitute is 'new' to their job unless it's some human trafficking underground ring that oil sheikhs have access to(Taken movie), all pros have already been 'tested' by their pimps.
 
Most girls I see work low end retail job or fast food jobs. But they still think they are above a sub8 who makes 6 figures and has a house and car lol

Chad or nothing maybe 5/10+ beta after 30
 
In the past before women had rights, jobs, etc, that cute girl you spotted in the village had nothing else to do but her chores and to try and find a husband to have children with, that's it

Fast forward to the modern era and that woman you are approaching in the street has a job, bills to pay, a current BF and/or Ex-BF problems (on top of various orbiters and men she has on the back burner)

That woman you are approaching may very well be on her way to work, rushing to make it in time for that big proposal she has to make or that important meeting

Women having rights and the ability to work, HAS EXTREMELY MAGNIFIED THEIR HYPERGAMY

So its not that being average isn't enough, its much worse, things have changed a lot, its that being average isn't enough for a woman who has the same resources as you, women always want a man with more, they always want to date up, for the poor village girl an average man with an average salary is "dating up", for that woman who is a lawyer or secretary at some high up business, she has many other suitors outside of your league

SO YOU APPROACHING HER IS LITERALLY A WASTE OF HER TIME AND MONEY

Women have to work too now, a woman will reject you extra harshly if you interrupt her day time routine because you are impeding her financial prospects by wasting her time

If you were Chad she'd make the time of course because then it isn't a waste, Chad genetics has monetary value, women want to "lock down" a Chad if possible and produce his children, but an average man approaching an average everyday working woman is literally costing her money in her eyes

Women want to get promotions to, and you making her even 5 mins late for work lowers her chances

The worst thing society ever did was to set things up so that men and women are competing against eachother on the same things, because before men were the archers and women were just "targets", now all the targets also have shields and bows of their own, so they are blocking all of your shots and taking shots of their own at the archers they prefer, its like a weird upside down world where inanimate objects have life and consciousness, nothing like this really exists anywhere else in this world

Among all the other animals, females have defined and restricted roles and so do the males, so every male essentially has SOME WORTH

But in human society we've made it so that females have access to all roles, so some males end up essentially have NO WORTH AT ALL

That's why approaching as an average or even slightly below average male is a waste of time, because your approaches are no longer effective, because you are worth way less in comparison to the male collective

Extremely High IQ. Extremely High IQ. Extremely FUCKING HIGH IQ.
 
exactly.
Women will just call you creepy if youre not outwardly attractive
 
Betabuxxing in an islamic society means being able to have consistent and risk free access to sex, I like how comfy the thought of that feels
Just lol. Moving so far away, learning new language, possibly living with a different race of people (arabs are known to be racist to blacks), living so far away from all your family members..just to have access to 1 raw pussy !? How is this a good idea? Hahaha youre not so smart bro.

Trust me, it wont be long at all until you get completely fucking bored of fucking 1 pussy maybe 5/6 years max, then youd want variety...then what? Then you gonna need prostitute again!

Not to mention arab foid age worse than white foid.
Say you married her at 16, you get 12 years of her prime til shes 28, that is if she didnt blow up before she hit the wall lolol and arab foid hit the wall HARD

Plenty of whores get checked for std regularly, move to a good country where prossy are more affordable (anywhere in south america, even mexico..so close) EE, Switzerland, SEA.

You can get clean whores for reasonable prices there, fuck em raw and once youre bored of her, youre not responsible for her so you can just throw her away, and on to the next whore(s).

Just lol at living with a bunch of muslims for a sandfoid wife that age like bread and a lot of em gain weight faster than black foids too. What a genius plan :feelshaha:
No wonder we men are fucked.
Going through all this for a pussy, even more cucked than escortcel.
 
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Just lol. Moving so far away, learning new language, possibly living with a different race of people (arabs are known to be racist to blacks), living so far away from all your family members..just to have access to 1 raw pussy !? How is this a good idea? Hahaha youre not so smart bro.

I have no strong attachments to any of the things you described, I'd even change my name, why does family mean so much to you, a black piller?

Also its not just "1 raw pussy", its going to be prime virgin jail bait, that seems like a great deal to me, also there's racists everywhere, no matter where you go on the planet, virtually everywhere there are racists, and lighter skinned people get preferential treatment, so I can take my resources and go to america and have "muh freedoms" and get treated like trash and be sex starved, or I can go to a place where some people will hate me but as long as I strictly follow their religious laws they'd begrudgingly accept by existence

I don't see how that's a bad choice, as a dark skinned person, people hate you everywhere, even your own people make fun of you for being dark, JFL if you think you can escape that, you have to learn to accept it

Trust me, it wont be long at all until you get completely fucking bored of fucking 1 pussy maybe 5/6 years max

IDK dude, I have a lolicon fetish, it might be 10 years before I get bored


then youd want variety...then what?

1. If she's cute enough and always significantly younger than me, I won't get bored, I think you are projecting your desires onto me

2. Either way, last time I checked, muslim men can have multiple wives, depends on the place and culture though, I'll be researching all of that before I move to any place of course. So couldn't I just get a next wife?

Say you married her at 16

Try 11 to 13

You can get clean whores for reasonable prices there, fuck em raw and once youre bored of her, youre not responsible for her so you can just throw her away, and on to the next whore(s).

Maybe, but if you don't have the connections or the know how, just one mistake and you are fucked for life, also I kind of like the idea of "owning" and dominating a woman, that is arousing to me, so again I think you are just projecting what you want onto me, I also think you are exaggerating the aging rate a bit,

Just lol at living with a bunch of muslims for a sandfoid wife that age like bread and a lot of em gain weight faster than black foids too. What a genius plan :feelshaha:

Just from the way you speak about muslims and arabs I can tell you only really see this as a bad idea because you dislike the religion and look down on the people, so you see it as trading down, so there really is no way for me to explain this to you because explanations don't matter when you simply don't want a "sand foid" and don't want to be around "a bunch of muslims"

I however like the islamic religion, I respect the culture they've created and how amazing it is that they still have an existing patriarchal culture in these times, and I think arabic women are beautiful
 
why does family mean so much to you, a black piller?
Cos familys the only one that gives a shit
I dont care if they really love me ornot, theyre the only one that would even pretend to give a shit, still better than living alone and no friends, thats gonna drive me crazy.

IDK dude, I have a lolicon fetish, it might be 10 years before I get bored
Fucked jb prossy b4, around 14/15 yo maybe, gets boring after the 6th time seeing her.

So couldn't I just get a next wife?
So much responsibility, you know youre responsible of them til theyre dead right? Thats 13-70 (57 years at least, most women live longer than 70yrs), this alone puts me off marriage Tbh, yu are responsible for her til she dead. And you have to have kids with every single one of your wives..cause how many sand foid is willing to be childless..?
Try 11 to 13
Wow..gotta be some terrible parents giving away their 11-13yo daughter to a guy from different race and culture with no family around...

Maybe, but if you don't have the connections or the know how, just one mistake and you are fucked for life
Youre too paranoid tbh, a TON of guys fucked prossy and porn stars raw and theyre fine, told you to get one that have proof theyre clean..
If youre willing to go as far as mexico which is fuckin close, theyre pretty darn cheap. I say most people getting stds gotta get it from fuckin bar sluts that never get checked / fucking men..

Besides rather risk std with affordable prossy then risk moving to another country for a wife.

I also think you are exaggerating the aging rate a bit,
No, sandfoid age like literal garbage, worse than mayo foids, this is a fact, never seen any milf middle aged sand foid, irl / online.
Im serious dude, they age terribly, gotta be their race trait + that traditional mid eastern diet full of fat, heart attack inducing and makes you age terribly.

And I think arabic women are beautiful
In their youth :feelshaha: 28 and above they look like trolls tbh, not exaggerating.

Just arguing cos im bored and got nothing to do btw, no hard feels.
 
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This is why you should only approach 18 - 19 foids, no way in the world do we have a chance with foids older than 22
 
Trust me, it wont be long at all until you get completely fucking bored of fucking 1 pussy maybe 5/6 years max
Fucked jb prossy b4, around 14/15 yo maybe, gets boring after the 6th time seeing her.

What are you doing on this forum?

You don't sound like an incel at all, so you are either trolling or you shouldn't even be hear, the "trust me" part with reference to fucking one woman for longe periods I let slide the first time around, thinking it was just a figure of speech, it isn't looking like that about now
 
What are you doing on this forum?

You don't sound like an incel at all, so you are either trolling or you shouldn't even be hear, the "trust me" part with reference to fucking one woman for longe periods I let slide the first time around, thinking it was just a figure of speech, it isn't looking like that about now
Prostitute jfl. Prossy stands for prostitutes, where I live, 3rd world shithole, its easy af to get away with fucking uneerage prostitute (15 and above only, if I fucked younger foid, id get beaten up by the masses) I fucked prostitute regularly, of all ages. no foid would want a relationship with me, im ugly, socially retarded and manlet, even if im fine with open relationship no foid will want to take me
 
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Prostitute jfl. Prossy stands for prostitutes, where I live, 3rd world shithole, its easy af to get away with fucking uneerage prostitute (15 and above only, if I fucked younger foid, id get beaten up by the masses) I fucked prostitute regularly, of all ages. no foid would want a relationship with me, im ugly, socially retarded and manlet, even if im fine with open relationship no foid will want to take me

JFL thought you were saying "pussy" when you said "prossy"

Is the crime high though, isn't it dangerous?, no whore try to trick you and her pimp came out to rob you?
 
High IQ.

OP is spot on. Current soyciety allows women to maximize their hypergamy. What we're experiencing today is the extreme bellend of unchecked and unbridled hypergamy - pure, raw hypergamy.

It could get worse (it could always get worse), but only by some barely-marginal amount.
 
JFL thought you were saying "pussy" when you said "prossy"

Is the crime high though, isn't it dangerous?, no whore try to trick you and her pimp came out to rob you?
So far none, not even an attempt...
My country is a shithole but at least the people here aint anywhere as brutal / savage as muricans.. :feelshaha: thank god.

(+) I have 2 workbuddies that are regular escortcels, probably visits escorts almost 100 times now, since they been regular since hi school..and they used to visit shady ass places where the whores are cheaper when theyre young and broke. And both of em never had a whore / her pimp deceive / try and rob them.
So at least escortcellers have it good in this country :feelshaha:
Otherwise its a shithole
 
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@BlkPillPres bro, you convinced me a few months ago to escortcell which I did and it was wonderful for me. It basically cured my depression. That's all I wanted to say.
@BlkPillPres bro, you convinced me a few months ago to escortcel which I did and it was wonderful for me. It basically cured my depression. That's all I wanted to say.
 
I’ve been saying this for ages

women having resources voids satellite males’ only sexual strategy. The state of the sexual market in the modern era literally becomes more brutal and competitive than the sexual market in the jungle, where men could atleast use resources to get pussy.

b-but muh progress

Also, white sons > asian sons
 
It is obvious. But is useful to remind
 
I think I should just kill myself then. There's no surgery that will make me 7/10, nor do I have money for that.
 
Because we ugly
 
So far none, not even an attempt...
My country is a shithole but at least the people here aint anywhere as brutal / savage as muricans.. :feelshaha: thank god.

(+) I have 2 workbuddies that are regular escortcels, probably visits escorts almost 100 times now, since they been regular since hi school..and they used to visit shady ass places where the whores are cheaper when theyre young and broke. And both of em never had a whore / her pimp deceive / try and rob them.
So at least escortcellers have it good in this country :feelshaha:
Otherwise its a shithole

Will add you to my follow list, one day I'm going to PM you for the name of your country, when I know I can afford to travel there
@BlkPillPres bro, you convinced me a few months ago to escortcell which I did and it was wonderful for me. It basically cured my depression. That's all I wanted to say.

Good for you, may you have many more great experiences ahead of you
 
So day game is essentially a form of economic sabotage against foids.

Brb, digging up Roosh V's "Day Bang" out of its dusty archival vault.
 
@ShyManlet What's the name of your country?
 

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